What WILL go wrong?
>>322430894
I don't care.
Everything. It's neo-Blizzard, they haven't made a single good game.
Blizzard died with the Activision buyout.
They will not advance the core gameplay
more time gates, new class to be obnoxiously overpowered as fuck, shitty mandatory pvp, brainlessly easy leveling experience, garrisons now being a worthless investment, AU draenor gradually forgotten, and at least one of the new zones will be insanely annoying to navigate.
>>322430894
Players that bought the preload or whatever stupid bullshit a WHOLE YEAR in advance don't get into the game.
>>322430894
Legion will pull 12 million subs on launch, and then it's shit and will kill wow forever. Blizzard should just let it die and make money off Overeatch and Hearthstone instead of twisting and raping it's corpse even more. Pls stop blizz
The original WoW players are now 30 years old. Blizz can't get them back no matter what.
>>322433256
I'm 24, actually, and I'm still hanging on.
Someone, please save me... I constantly have thought of raiding as a Paladin and playing out the new spells and animations in my head.
Fucking how do I break this addiction... it was fine when WoD was shit and old but as soon as Legion and its new info was shown I was hooked in.
>>322430894
Ability pruning, garrisons, lack of new content to do and DHs dominating PvP until 7.3 when the second and final raid tier is out.
>>322430894
Ability Pruning.
Warriors complained and they didn't do jack shit during test of WoD
>>322433232
>Blizzard should just let it die and make money off Overeatch and Hearthstone
You realize WoW basically funds the development of other, better games right? You think Hearthstone and WoW take anywhere near what they bring in to develop?
>>322430894
No flying
No sale
>>322433720
>INB4 claims that flying is what killed shit like WPvP
I'm 32 and I started in Vanilla.
What shits me now is that, every patch, I have to go do some compulsory quests that will just give me epics.
Every patch, everything I have earned, washed away.
Back in the day, you got the Arcanite Reaper, you kept that for quite a fucking while.
And the other thing - Blizzard, I didn't mind that I never got to see high level raids. That was good. It retained the sense of mystery and foreboding. And the fear of how difficult they were.
>>322433848
To be honest familia, it made it shit. In MoP, there were level 90 shitters doing nothing but flying around questing areas, oneshotting lowbies and then flying away. If a geared level 90 showed up, they would just fuck off elsewhere and oneshot lowbies there. WoW has always had high level character ganking low levels, but flying made it possible to scan entire zones in a few seconds and impossible to get away.
>>322430894
>>322431457
>>322430894
>What WILL go wrong?
Nu-Blizzard isn't Blizzard. Blizzard is dead. What you see now is just someone loosely wearing their skin.
>>322433720
Seriously, it's just annoying having to wait six months to 'unlock' the privilege of using 80% of my mounts and get shit done in a reasonable amount of time. I've had more fun in WoD the past two months with flight than I had in the rest of the expansion. Draenor has so much fucking empty space you'd think it was MADE for flight.
>>322433432
>that kid on vent with the just hitting puberty voice is now 24 years old
>>322435997
actually i'm 20
They'll take the near universally loathed Garrison Follower bullshit, that they themselves admitted was not a good idea, and stick it in Legion too because if they attach some legendary progression stages solely to it, it's a nice way to add weekly progress caps and drag out your subscription time.
Pic from alpha related, WoD 2: Electric Boogaloo.
>>322435513
>>322435826
I can't fucking stomach what has become of Blizzard. It's even worse than Rare.
Fuck those sellout fucks, I hope Kike Morhime and Bobby Jewtick enjoy sucking cock on their money pile because people are starting to wake up and abandon their shitsack games.
HotS being the biggest flop of the year is only the beginning, Overwatch and Legion flopping is going to be amazing.
>>322436178
lol
oh fuck.
>tfw I used to like WoW until Cata
Does WoD do any justice for it? Is Legion even a reason to come back?
>>322436446
when WoD first came out it was 9/10 but i can't imagine it's too much fun now
>tfw bought legion today
I'm selling gold to the chinks and another lvl 100 comes in handy. Its all about gold now and waiting for resets to gear my main. I've been jewing the AH for so long maybe I should visit /biz/ at this point.
>>322430894
I bet 5 bucks that there'll be yet another year-long content drought after the final raid of Legion comes out.
>>322436178
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that Vanessa Vancleef's still alive given Blizz's track record with deaths.
>>322433063
garrisons were worthless 1 month after draenor hit
>>322436178
HERE WE GO.
>>322436446
If you wanted Justice after Cata, MoP was it.
Warlocks won't be overpowered.
Fuck this game.
>>322436529
>I guess I shouldn't be surprised that Vanessa Vancleef's still alive
Rogue's have Cheat Death, anon.
>>322430894
More of the same, pushing an obsolete form of the genre that needs to die.
>>322436512
same senpai ive just been saving up gold
any tips other than garrison/cata raid shit? herbalism/alchemy has proven to give me quite a bit of dosh while doing apexis dailies like throne of KJ but im afraid of herbalism being useless on legion launch again
this will be pretty much the first expansion launch ill be a part of (started with wod), so should i switch to another profession or what?
>>322436628
I came into MoP when SoO first came out and genuinely felt like it was a really strong expansion. Wished I had played from the get-go because I made great friends while playing, found the community to be very much alive, thought the quests/level/map design were great, enjoyed the aesthetics, enjoyed the score, etc
>>322433432
>Fucking how do I break this addiction
As someone who nearly killed themselves with a WoW addiction during BC, this was my solution...
The first step is some kind of emotional content in your real life that overrides whatever emotion you're getting from the game. Yes, the game is "real" insofar as it makes you feel a certain way, or the people who are playing it are "real" because they're on the other end of a Vent / Teamspeak.
But somehow, some way, you must find emotional content outside of the game. Your entire life cannot exist within WoW. If it does, it will truly consume and dominate you.
That emotional content can be anything. Love, Hate, DETERMINATION. Doesn't matter what it is, but it must be strong - stronger than the emotion you're getting from the game.
As for myself. I got a call from my Mother. She had fallen and fucked up her leg badly to the point where she would be bedridden. My Stepfather had polio as a kid, so one of his legs has been fucked up for life. It casually dawned on me that there was no way possible if there was a fire in the fucking house that my mother would make it out alive. Moreover, I considered in my emaciated state (from non-stop 16+ hour gaming days) if I could even lift her and carry her down the stairs to get her out.
The answer was no.
I loved my mother enough that I hated myself. Intensely. I mean very, very intensely. I was 20-something, supposed to be in the prime physical shape of my life, and I couldn't even save my fucking parents if their lives depended on it.
So long story short, I quit WoW and got in shape. That was sometime during BC. Been a long time since then, but when you have an actual life catharsis, it's just something you never forget.
>>322436178
>that they themselves admitted was not a good idea,
What? No
>>322436178
Garrisons weren't a bad idea, but they added them in far too late and leaned on them far too much.
I can't wait for more cheating in arena. People pay $15 a month for this level of quality.
http://oddshot.tv/shot/vengeful7-2016010219344083
>>322436964
>Garrisons weren't a bad idea
Yes, they were. An MMO does not need houses where people spend their time away from others.
>>322436675
about time
>>322436482
>when WoD first came out it was 9/10
It was the worst expansion straight out of the gate. It took 12 hours of gameplay before you saw the holes in the design.
>>322437191
>It took 12 hours of gameplay before you saw the holes in the design.
But it took less to get to the Garrison bullshit, around an hour or so.
>>322436914
Great story, anon. Glad to hear how you got your life on track, keep going forward dude
>>322436885
>I came into MoP when SoO first came out and genuinely felt like it was a really strong expansion.
That's the thing. MoP's launch and first patch fucking sucked, while the second patch and finish were among my favourites.
That expansion had one janked up quality scale.
>>322437349
Makes me glad I rejoined when SoO was still fresh. I should have done the same with WoD but I was dumb.
I wish they made the garrisons cooperative, and part of the actual world.
Like a miniature floating Dalaran, maybe two of them for each faction. You can pick which one you want to join, like Scryers or Aldor. Every day or every so often, the cities move to a new zone. If two opposing factions are in the same zone, there might be carnage to be had.
I don't know. I just miss that kind of world stuff you could do because you couldn't just queue for everything.
>>322437670
>Every day or every so often, the cities move to a new zone.
That would be incredibly fucking annoying while doing daily chores.
>>322437670
>If two opposing factions are in the same zone, there might be carnage to be had.
Stop designing WoW like the only server type is PvP, ESPECIALLY when the state of PvP is as bad as it is now.
>>322437757
Maybe the grind is connected to the flying fortress. Give people a reason to be in the zone.
>>322437863
Well, this is for people who are PVPing.
>>322436842
Oh boy early WoD were the days. 2.5k for savage blood and 500 per temporal crystal. I made 500k just from garrison shit in the first months.
Now I just do the obvious follower bonus gold missions and 5 heroes with tailoring and enchanting building in each garrison. 2 with barns 3 with trading posts.
When it comes to proffesions in Legion do an extensive research about them a month prior launch. It would be best if you can get yourself into the beta. Dont miss out on wod darkmoon cards and garrison optimization like I did on launch.
>>322433432
Simple, I've been playing since WC2, so the decline made me so disgusted I left. I'm not paying $15 dollars to see my childhood friend become a washed up whore because of her father.
>>322437863
If its not a PvP server in that case, then conflict becomes optional based on whether the players in question flag themselves for PvP. I don't see why PvP servers shouldn't have SOME design bones thrown to them.
>>322436359
lol youre delusional as fuck. nothing about microtransaction has anything to do with the game. wanna buy mounts or pets? good for you. nobody cares, and it doesnt affect the game. youre fuckin dumb if you think legion will flop. theyre going to make billions with it
>>322436546
thats because youre too stupid to know how to use them. i log in 20 minutes a day just to do garrissson missions. with that, i rack up enough gold to buy tokens and play for free. dont blame your stupidity on other people
>>322438873
No they aren't. Not after WoD. You are delusional if you think that anybody is going to keep eating Blizzards shit after D3.
The drones have left the building.
>>322433063
>shitty mandatory pvp
what the fuck are you even talking about?
>>322438873
>and it doesnt affect the game
Until they're offsetting subscriber losses via the cash shop, and use that as justification to make more cash shop items instead of making more worthwhile game content to stay subbed.
There's a reason WoD managed to lose 40% of all WoW subscribers in 3 months and still pull a "record profit" for their Q3 investor call.
How m,any unique model mounts, with unique animations have been released in WoD outside the cash shop? 1, the Moose, but the Moose originally hit the PTR with a cash shop flag, only to suddenly become a raid mount after a massive backlash.
>>322438873
>Microtransactions are okay so long as I deem them inconsequential.
People like you are why we have a $60 character boost.
cut content
it will always happen
>>322439014
>you think that anybody is going to keep eating Blizzards shit after D3.
You mean Diablo 3, the 10th highest selling game of all time?
>>322435826
That applies more to Bioware than Blizzard. Literally every single veteran left around the time of EA's acquisition.
Everything since DA2 onward was made by new hires, including a shitload of fresh-from-school faggots.
>>322434276
>paying for a game and not being able to enjoy its content is a good thing
what kind of stupid fuck are you?
>>322439226
"Fool my once shame on you."
That's what Blizzard's fans thought after they got sold out for soccer moms and trust fund kiddies.
This board hates Neo-Blizzard and everything they shit out. They sold us out so fuck them.
>>322439387
>They sold us out
wow killed warcraft t b h
>>322439350
Someone who enjoys a challenge and a bit of mystery
>>322439237
Rob Pardo left Blizzard during WoD. He knew what was happening and he got out of there.
Metzen is the puppet for the suits pushing garbage like HotS and Overwatch. He's a washed up dad rock loser and everybody knows it. There isn't a more out-of-touch with reality company than Blizzard.
>>322439387
>sold us
Ditched, not sold. They found a new userbase willing to pay more for less.
>>322436980
people who arent retarded dont pay shit
>>322439434
>>322439589
Same shit. They are cowardly fucks who abandoned their true fans for easy money.
I hope they go fucking bankrupt.
>>322439570
>He knew what was happening and he got out of there.
So did Ghostcrawler. He jumped ship earlier than Pardo, while WoD was still in development. He saw this disaster coming from a mile away and got out while there was still lifeboats available.
>>322439630
Somebody paid money for that game token. Blizzard is making money off you whether you think you are smart or not.
If you play WoW, you're the biggest retard of all.
>>322439146
yeah, so? who gives a shit about mounts. like i said. they dont affect the game at all. if you dont like em, dont buy em. or what, youre mad that blizzard is still making money, even though theyre losing subscribers? thats retarded
>>322439630
And that token cost someone else $20,, meaning you just helped fund Blizzard EVEN MORE sub money.
>>322439387
>being loyal to a company
>>322439702
>Riot is a better place to work for than Blizzard
That's pretty fucking sad. How Mike Morhime hasn't hung himself yet is a mystery.
>>322439702
>Ghostcrawler
>>322439156
please xplain how they affect the game in any way whatsoever, you stupid fuck.
>>322439873
>they dont affect the game at all
2 tier expansion, record profits and no need to produce a third tier thanks to cash shop.
Directly killing the game.
>>322439542
I don't know about challenge, but mystery is pretty much gone thanks to Dataminers who report everything about the game from Alpha and beyond, not blizzard itself. I'm not saying Mystery could still happen though, but only rarely. Like that one "rare" pet that got discovered and people were rushing to get.
>>322439542
youre an idiot. if you want mystery, play clue, faggot. when i pay for a game, i want to experience the game
But WoD was made with the best names in the business.
>>322440164
Good thing he's the lead designer for Legion!
>>322440097
You are the reason that games today have such a tepid difficulty level
The weapon system doesn't seem too interesting.
PvP talents may piss people off.
Dungeons and raids could be scrapped.
Some fun Demon Hunter abilities could be removed.
Story does actually seem to be going even more retarded from what was datamined.
On paper it seems good but it's just the usual "content might not be delivered in a timely fashion" WoW has had for years and if it is delivered it's mediocre.
>>322440097
You sound like an entitled faggot.
>>322430894
>say they're taking out garrisons
>class halls have quests that use "class hall resources"
>you gather followers to send on missions
>all the specs are losing spells so it's easier to tell them apart
>monk healers can no longer melee
>paladin healers can melee, disproving their argument for why monks can't
I don't even wanna keep going. It's just sad.
The fact that they still have monthly payments is laughable
>>322440219
lol, are you serious? Jay fuckmothering Wilson is the lead designer for Legion?!
>>322440385
>lol, are you serious?
He's talking out his ass.
>>322439873
>who gives a shit about mounts
Most people, which is why they are their best sellers. In the past new mounts were acquired by some in-game feat of strength, now they're acquired by spending real money. Vanity items are still very important to the game's experience whether you want to admit it or not.
>>322440385
You will not find a single source of that claim. Interestingly the only place you'll ever hear it is /v/
>>322440430
>>322440559
:^)
>>322439823
>>322439912
>paying in fake money is the same as giving blizz money because someone else spent actual money
Legit the dumbest shit I've heard today.
more facebook games
lfx still exists
game still easy
etc
>>322440832
Game is not easy at mythic level. Do you want it to be difficult at all levels?
>>322440969
>Do you want it to be difficult at all levels?
That's what vanilla was, so yes.
>>322440686
>JUST
>>322430894
Honestly, I don't see how this could end up being any worse than WoD. WoD had fuck all for content. It was so obviously incomplete its mind-boggling.
Legion may end up being shit but I really doubt it could set the bar any lower than WoD.
>>322439570
>Sacrifice
Welp, time for another Stratos playthrough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTG760894Ew
>>322441451
>I don't see how this could end up being any worse than WoD
Careful anon, people were saying the exact thing after Cataclysm
>>322441045
Vanilla was not really difficult they just made it so your mana regeneration both in and out of combat was so unbelievably low that if you couldn't have enough mana on hand to finish the remaining mobs you would be fucked.
Many classes lacked any kind of self-heal as well so the only option you had if you lacked the health to finish off a mob is to CC and attempt to run away.
It was more annoying than difficult.
>>322439350
Purchasing a game does not make you entitled to beating that game. A game's difficulty should be entirely left up to the developers. Your brand of entitlement is cancerous to the gaming community as a whole.
>>322441643
>food and bandages didn't exist in vanilla
>>322441585
But WoD had fucking nothing. Even the rep grinds had no fucking quests to go with them at launch. The ONLY way Legion would end up worse is if it was exactly the same with worse raids.
Hell, the fact that they aren't spending time developing another terrible world pvp zone like Ashran for Legion is already a huge improvement.
>>322441772
Who are you quoting?
>>322441045
>That's what vanilla was
Vanilla was hard via lack of central information on classes and raids to the average player and bad players galore, spamming AM was a viable strategy for most Mages during their raiding MC.
I'd kill to see that game released today as a legacy server or something so I can laugh when the entire thing is cleared in a week and the imaginary belief the game was hard comes crumbling down.
>>322441643
Leveling was often difficult in that mobs hit fairly hard and until later levels many classes would struggle taking on two mobs with cds up and were as good as dead without cds. Endgame dungeons and raids were pretty easy, especially by today's standards, but we didn't have such crazy datamining back then and most people were shit at the game. Even shittier than LFR heroes.
>>322441886
>so I can laugh when the entire thing is cleared in a week
Just look at private servers like Nost. There are guilds that stack every possible world buff and min/max the the shit out of the game with all the knowledge we have now and end up clearing shit like MC and BWL at ridiculous speed.
>>322441789
>But WoD had fucking nothing.
Have you seen Legion?
ALL you ahve to do in this expansion is do your weekly progression capped (ie, 1 day of content, then it ends and you wait 6 days for reset) Artifact grinding and raids.
The only other thing is bog standard dailies, Garrisons 2.0 follower missions and those "redo the same dungeon 200,000 times" new challenge card things.
You will have at most, 2 4 hour days of content per week in Legion, the same as fucking Warlords. Nothing to do outside of weekly capped systems.
>>322441772
Food can't be used in combat. Bandages can only do so much and you first need to CC the mob. If you get hit while bandaging you're fucked. Healing pots helped out a bit more.
Mobs took forever to kill, didn't do much at all and you would actually fight them with less abilities than your player does now. What Blizzard needs to do is go back and retune all the 1-80 mobs in zones so they have more health because right now you one shot most of them, even without heirlooms
>>322442269
>new
The fact that you were able to describe a Legion feature as new already puts it ahead of WoD.
>>322442404
Garrisons, Ashran.
New as well, doesn't make them good.
artifacts.
this shit will ruin pvp and future expansion's
>>322441982
That's not difficult though. That's tedious.
You could be the best fucking WoW player in the world and there would be nothing you could do against another mob coming to kill you when you're on low health, pots are on cd, bandages are on cd and you don't have any cc available.
You'll say you should never be in that position but it happens, mainly because a mob will respawn the second after you've finished fighting and there was no conceivable way you could know that mob was coming back if another play had killed it.
>>322442269
That sounds like normal WoW if you ask me. It hasn't exactly been very different to that in the past
>>322440969
yes
>>322442269
isn't that vanilla ?
>grinding
>redo the same dungeon 200,000 times
>>322439350
Vanilla player here. I quit midway through WotLK and came back for Cata and MoP's releases only to get bored after slaughtering shit in weeks.
I miss the days epics meant something, you actually had to do shit to get the gear instead of walking on an island and shitting out epics.
I never did get to see Naxx or much of AQ40, but that was fine. Why? The other content was hard enough to keep us busy and look forward to something. You see a guy in Dreadnaught? You knew he was a fucking badass tank. You aspired to get there.
The whole nature of the game changed with cross server shit too. I understand the reasoning behind it, but it killed the community that was at one point pretty good. I loved little rivalries with Horde players I'd see frequently in BGs and while roaming the world.
The game just feels soulless, has for a while.
>nerds trying to talk about Blizzards "mistakes" when the game held 10 mil subs for years and is still madly profitable even with WoD losing 5 mil subs
>D3 is one of the highest grossing games of all time
The money is in China, microtransactions and tokens
This is modern gaming. The quality of the game doesn't matter anymore, only pandering to the people with the most disposable income and it just so happens that these people often have very little freetime too
Soon they'll start selling progression. Look forward to rep consumables, loot boxes, loot rolls, artifact power etc. in the cash shop
And even if you play "for free" with tokens you only support the cancer even more
>What WILL go wrong?
The plot will be stupid.
More main characters die pointlessly.
The player is built up as the supreme, ultimate hero of Warcraft.
Another patch with nothing in it.
Will be very short like Warlords of Draenor.
More time-gating.
Another year-long period of nothing between expansions.
>>322430894
I cant bring myself to care even a single bit about this expansion. Also, I dont know anyone who plays WoW anymore and no one I know have expressed any interest in this expansion and starting to play WoW again.
Sure I missed the old days, but WoW is over and has been since Cataclysm started for me at least. Thats the expansion when the last few holdouts among my friends stopped playing and I with them.
>>322442642
>Not being an immortal, 1-shotting every mob god is bad
>>322441886
This.
lack of info makes any game hard, hell, iirc the last nethack NO SPOILER run took 2 years or so.
>>322443509
I said that was a problem but another problem is all the casuals will quit and Blizzard might think about stopping future development.
You should see how fast people quit LFD or LFR if a single wipe happens. They have no patience.
Its clearly not just nostalgia talking, because I had fun for a long time with vanilla private servers before I realized I was just burned out on MMOs and that the genre was dead for me.
>>322442276
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're going to contribute to the thread.
>>322443509
What do you do when you lose?
Pretty sure the fucking, what is it called? Demon Hunter class? Is going to be so fucking OP, it's going to be Death Knights all over again.
At least with DK's you couldn't make one right off the bat unless you already had a character that was level 55 or above. It won't do any good if they do that with the new class because most people have multiple level 100 characters so you already know everyone is going to be running a Demon Hunter class, I hate when games do this because you have 100's of people playing the same class and it just bothers the fuck out of me.
They are most likely just going to be DPS so watch you queue for dungeons and get like nothing but Demon Hunters for your DPS squad.
No variety or diversity what so ever, it's nice to have a dungeon or raiding party with diverse classes but instead now you'll have raiding parties with mostly Demon Hunter classes and nothing else except some healing and tank classes for diversity.
I don't know, I just feel like DK's were done way better when WOTLK first came out.
>>322443731
I get up and try again.
My first level 60 was a fucking Rogue and I was bad. I was really bad when I started.
I died a lot leveling up. Built character.
>>322443843
I remember when they came out.
You could use all 3 specs for both tanking and DPS.
This was long before they completely gutted the talent system though.
>>322441886
>Nefarian world first attempt takes like 100 tries to do
>Kronos + nostalarius guilds clear BWL in a weekend
Vanilla is not hard... It's a pain in the ass amount of grinding required.
>>322430894
I cant believe that people still defend wow and the greedy company behind it
I hope Activision just dies
>>322443140
You forgot
>WALKING
>WAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLKIIIIING!
>yup still walking!
>WALKITY WALK WALK WALK. WALKITY WALKERS WALK WALKING SO HARD
>Oh fuck yes, finally, flypath so I can do homework while this shit flies
>>322443843
DH can tank.
So expect x4 DH x1 healer
>>322430894
It'll suffer the same flaws as every expansion since WotLK.
>Timegated PvE content
>Forced daily/weekly activities
>Overly annoying rep grind
>Factions with gated rep grinds
>PvE content gets too old, too fast
>Poor profession updates
>Poor class changes breaking game balance
>Poor PvP experience
>Beautiful world lacks compelling reasons to explore, world is too dead
>Not enough PvE content
>Not enough PvP content that everyone can enjoy
>Dungeons and Raids add new mechanics, but none of them get the right balance of being compelling, fun, and challenging all at the same time and are either too easy, too boring, or too hard
>Guilds run on skeleton crews or are too full to make any real connections in
Wrath, with it's flaws in mind, was still a fucking fantastic expansion that was able to satisfy everyone.
I fear Legion will be in the same boat as WoD. Enough content to keep you around for a month or two, then nothing for literally months, and when it hits, you're either too worn out to give a fuck, or not attracted enough to resub.
>>322445453
That sounds about right.
World and enemy design is top notch usually - good leadership there.
Where's the leadership on the actual gameplay experience though? There just doesn't seem to be anyone in charge.
>>322443727
>Gets BTFO
>DON'T FUCKING REPLY TO ME AGAIN
It's okay anon, there there
>>322444698
How people love trash walking sims after 2007 is beyond ridiculous
>>322430894
Like WoD it's going to cost $20 too much to accommodate the "free" level boost you get.
>>322430894
Isnt this the game where most of the quests ars kill x amount of things ?
>>322436675
What are you basing this on? The changes to Demonology and Affliction look absurd.
>>322443843
>Pretty sure the fucking, what is it called? Demon Hunter class?
You're trying WAY too hard to fit in with the WoW haters.
>>322440334
>the weapon system doesn't seem too interesting
What, the better version of the old talent tree system? How does that not seem interesting?
>PvP talents may piss people off
By making PvP varied, removing the human racial and making every class unique in their PvP applications?
>dungeons and raids could be scrapped
This I could see happening.
>some fun Demon Hunter abilities could be removed
They've barely revealed any at this point, I think they want to keep it simple and I'm pretty sure it's less likely to happen to Demon Hunter than any other class given it's only got the two specs.
>story does actually seem to be going even more retarded from what was datamined
The story of Warcraft has always been retarded. Warcraft 2 was nearly "the two factions take a portal to the real world and fight the modern military".
>>322445453
>since WotLK.
>Overly annoying rep grind
WotLK is the expansion where you could buy infinite rep increasing tokens for super cheap badge cost just running dungeons.
>>322441585
MoP was the best expansion, though.
>>322440969
>muh mythic
Do you know why Mythic has such a low participation number? The game up to the last 2 bosses on Heroic is pathetic. There needs to be a difficulty raise on the PvE content across the board so that when you group up with other people you know what's going down. I fucking hate Wrath and ICC but I think that raid tier handled the transition from normal to HC masterfully - even better than Ulduar.
I am not saying the game needs to return to the BC levels of difficulty but a HC dungeon shouldn't last 10 min and a "Mythic" one shouldn't be 15 min. Mythic raiding is also designed in a stupid way but that's besides the point.
>>322443843
>Brand new, highly requested and sought after class is finally released
>OOOOOOMG UUUUUUUUUUGH LOOK AT ALL THESE DEMON HUNTERS UUUUUUGH
10/10 bait because there actually are retards who get mad that something brand new and popular is getting a shit ton of attention by everyone.
>>322447493
Mythic (and formerly Heroic) were only added so Blizzard could have the excuse to say "Have you done Heroic/Mythic? No? then you're not out of content yet" as if redoing the same fucking bosses with the same loot and same abilities just scaled higher actually counts as new content.
Just overtune the bosses a little and boom, in 5 minutes you've created an excuse to pretend this raid has 8 months worth of content to the average player.
>>322447493
>BC levels of difficulty
The only hard thing in BC was Sunwell.
>>322447812
And the difficulty only came from massively overtuned bosses in an attempt to make a very short raid last long enough to fill out the gap until WotLK launched. Shaman stacking anyone?
>>322447764
Heroic changes mechanics, though. Have you ever done Heroic? Because if you think it's just "more numbers with the same abilities/strategies" you're retarded.
>no d3 gen at all
RoS was that good huh?
>animatorfag
>want to make machinas
>don't want to rig every single hd character model
What are the odds if I ask Blizzard nicely and provide them my resume, that they'd give me access to their in house rigs? I doubt it's much.
>>322447884
>Boss has 30 mechanics
>They added 1, it's a totally new encounter!
Hi Chilton
>>322447884
>Heroic changes mechanics, though
In what way does Mythic ever change a fight so much you can call it new content? The loot is the same, scaled up. The boss is the same, scaled up. Nearly all his abilities are the same, scaled up. They add a new DoT to the fight and you consider this worthwhile content? At least you had an excuse in MoP with a whole new (shitty, buggy) fight with Ra-den or the shitty burn phase on Garrosh.
You must be a shill
>>322448129
>In what way does Mythic ever change a fight so much you can call it new content?
Read what was said.
>>322447764
Mythic is the only way to experience the bosses properly. It's a good mode, if a bit overtuned but people don't want to do it because, again, the whole game is easy and discourages you from doing challenging stuff.
>>322447812
>>322447867
>muh wow forum arguments
>BC wasn't hard guys XD
If you have ever done a BC heroic or MgT Heroic you would know how much BS you are spitting. The dungeons were designed around CC and punishing rush tactics. BC was a tough as balls expansion.
>weekly caps
I understand why they do this, but fuck me it's annoying. Doubly so for anyone like me who has work hours/downtime that can change from a week to week basis.
>>322448250
BC was only tough if you were literally a child, or you were playing one of the few specs still gutted from Vanilla.
>>322447493
>I think that raid tier handled the transition from normal to HC masterfully - even better than Ulduar.
You say that as if Ulduar handled the transition well at all. It didn't, it was garbage. Shit like XT was part of the fight with 0 warning that basically did nothing but serve to cause people to accidentally trigger hard mode when first learning the fight. It was Blizzard implemented promotion to research raids before trying them which is one of the worst things to happen to WoW even back to MC days.
>>322448250
>If you have ever done a BC heroic or MgT Heroic you would know how much BS you are spitting.
Get better people to run with. MgT is the most overblown heroic in WoW history.
>>322448362
>>322448485
People suck MgT's dick for a reason - it was a hard dungeon as were Ramps, SH, SV, SL, TKs and Setthek. The intro raiding tier was also hard but it had a retarded design - I agree on that. T5 was brutal and T6 had its moments but it was a boring slog.
>>322448390
XT and Vezzax had shit HM's but FL, Council, Guardians and Yogg were great.
>>322448848
People suck MgTs dick because they were literally 12 when it came out.
>>322449108
>h-he got me
>call him names
>>322449442
I didn't call you names.
>make a few characters on the PTR to play specs I havent touched in a while
>mfw
What did they do to balance druids and warriors? Who thought this was a good idea? Did someone actually get paid to come up with this shit? So many questions
>first subbed to WoW in December some years ago
>every year I've always resubbed for December through January because it's cosy and brings me back
>WoD was so utterly dogshit this was the first year I've been able to hold out from resubbing over the Christmas period
It was hard, but I just couldn't justify giving them money after WoD.
The PvP changes and Hunter overhauls + Gnome Hunters are tempting me for Legion but I don't fucking trust them not to fuck it up anymore.
>>322438108
>I'm not paying $15 dollars to see my childhood friend become a washed up whore because of her father.
listen to this man, you get this in real life for free
>>322450371
what did they do? i quit back when cata launched, came back for 2 weeks when wod launched so i dont know
>>322450918
Eclipse is now completely automated. The bar just moves back and forth by itself and you cast the appropriate spells
Fury is like 4 buttons and entirely proc based. Hit BT every 4 seconds and whatever else lights up
>>322450770
I still feel bad about not at least talking to her. Fuck the school, fuck her family and fuck her friends!
>>322451186
>Eclipse is now completely automated.
It was so robotic and predictable before the change was hardly noticable.
>>322451186
Eclipse doesn't even exist in Legion.
>>322434276
i remember when i started out my friend told me i could be anything i wanted, i wanted to be a master fisherman, i wasnt going to raid, i wasnt going to do hard quests, i was just going to fish, and cook, and mine, and jewelcraft. i was gonna be the supportiest character ever. it felt good for a while.
>>322451559
Yes I miss those kind of niche preoccupations, too.
>>322433256
I played open beta and I'm 23. Shit taught me English.
