Is there a cheaper option than getting one of these for PC gaems?
Of course.
Better? Probably not.
>>322388339
No just get the official one the knockoffs are shit
Don't get me wrong, that is a nice controller, but I would go with the DualShock 3. It's bluetooth.
>>322388459
$25 is a lot, i just wanna be sure it's the absolute best thing i can get for the money
>>322388603
it 100% is worth the money, anon
>>322388527
don't listen to this, man. he's a sonygger that refuses to accept that the 360 controller is better
Do you have a PS3? Use your DS3
>>322388339
yep, best overall controller out there
just dont fall for the DS3/4 crap that sony fans will try to shill. its uncomfortable when compared to the 360 controller
>>322388759
>Do you have a PS3?
nope
>>322388339
SPEEDLINK Xeox pro is as good as 360
>>322388759
nah, newest console i own is a gc
>>322388603
>$25 is a lot
Fuck off is it. It's a great controller, well worth the money.
>>322388339
You could look around for one of those Logitech XInput controllers. Not sure how much cheaper they are than a 360 pad though.
>>322388973
Thanks, ill take a look at these guys
wired 360
>>322388973
Literally more expensive than the official 360 one
>>322388603
Absolute best is a Xbone/360/ps4/U Pro wireless, but a 360 pad is the best bet for $25.
>>322388527
I have a dualshock 4 and bluetooth fucking sucks. so much input lag if your controller isn't right next to the receiver.
I use a micro usb cable though and prefer the wired ds4 over my wired 360 controller these days. that's just my personal preference, 360 controller is cheaper and probably your best bet.
>>322389180
Yeah, i know, they're still very expensive, even used on amazon is like $22
Actually i found some jap ones that are cheaper, anyone know if theres any main differences in those models?
>>322389180
This. I used to have a wireless 360 with the USB dongle, but I mostly just used the charge'n'play cord to keep the battery from running out so I dropped it for a straight wired controller.
>>322389382
$25-30 is not expensive for something you're going to use for hundreds of hours. its cheap enough that once your $10 chinese one breaks in the middle of your game time, you'll be wishing you just went with a decent one. wired 360 or ds3.
>>322389602
ds3 is total shit for most games, i own both.
>>322388603
>25 dollars
>a lot
I think you have bigger problems. Be glad you aren't paying over 50 and just get it. It'll last you a long time anyways as opposed to getting some cheap knock-off. I've had mine for 7+ years and it still works great.
It's definitely worth the money if you are playing ports or emulated games. I've had the same one for probably 8 years that I use on and off for games and it's well worth the cash. You could probably a whopping $5 if you bought a shitty Mad Catz or something, but you'd be retarded to go that route.
Get a wired 360 controller and don't cheap out. Just get a regular one made by Microsoft.
I bought a Chinese one because it was $10 cheaper. Arrived with a broken right bumper so they sent me a new one. The new one died within two months of use.
>>322389602
>>322389768
Thanks, part of it was my own thing of 'you have git gud with a keyboard first' but then again there are games like Dark Souls i can't even play without a controller. So i'll let go and just buy it.
>>322389702
DS3 works with literally any game that the 360 pad works with. Don't talk shit. Which is better is 100% subjective.
>>322388339
Get a USB dongle for xbox360 controllers
Ten bucks and you might already have a controller
Would the Xbone controller be better than the 360?
>>322390290
>DS3 works with literally any game that the 360 pad works with.
No it doesn't
>>322390531
If you can afford it, yes.
It's pretty much the 360 pad but improved in every way. The dpad is easily better than any Dualshock I've used (and I've used them since PS1), the buttons are responsive, the triggers are more comfy, and the sticks feel better.
>>322389768
Heh, today I bought an XBONE controller + the wireless dongle for it to work for PC.
Feels good finally going wireless, the thick heavy cable of my previous 360 controller was fucking annoying.
>>322391595
>the triggers are more comfy
Funny guy.
Everything about the shoulder buttons is complete shit.
Wow i just realized i could probably borrow my friend's DS3 now that he bought a ps4.
Fugg and i just blew my $28 on a wired 360
>>322388603
>$25 is a lot,
No.
Also, the shitbox 360 controller is absolute garbage.
Get a One controller, it's way better.
>>322389702
Dualshock is the only acceptable answer when it comes to 2D gaming.
One when it comes to 3D.
360 controller is the best for modern games. People complaining about the dpad is stupid.
First off yeah it sucks, but for fighting games you should be using a damn arcade stick and for retro you should be using a Buffalo SNES or converters for retro controllers
>>322391595
I got the steam controller because I'm a retard.
I can afford it in a couple of months (Recently just got a new monitor)
I just want a good controller. My ps4 one disconnects at the slight fucking breeze, Steam controller is super uncomfy, and my 360 controller is pretty much unservicable these days.
I could just buy an adapter for the wiiu pro. That's actually a really amazing controller. Would it be better to just get that over a xbone?
>>322392479
should have said this earlier. all i play is 2d platformers fuck
>>322389091
I want one of these. I don't understand the dualshock style d-pad, I want a disc style one.
>>322392689
If that's true, then you should just get the Buffalo USB SNES pad, since it has a dpad for better than DS.
>>322392689
Sounds like you're stupid.
But in that case, get the DS3 or whatever cheap shit 5$ d-pad you can find.
>>322392125
You're thinking of the bumpers, but those have been fixed since. Unless you're allergic to anything that's not as rounded as a Fisher-Price toy, the XB1 controller is totally fine.
Get DS3. Much better for emulation.
>>322392819
>SNES pad
Ok, listen, I grew up with the SNES, but that controller is not something you want to hold in your hands for hours.
Why completely ignore all the ergonomic advances we've made?
>>322392125
>>322392958
Also, the new triggers are fantastic unless you get one that's fucked up. Are you just a fan of having one small spring providing the tension for the trigger? DS4 triggers are a step backward from DS3.
>>322392895
>>322392895
well consider i play super meat boy with an analog, i don't know why you think all others are immune to needing one.
I got two questions: is it still possible to buy a wired X360 controller that's new/mint, and if not then what's the power source on the wireless one? Because if it's fucking batteries like on the Wiimote it can go fuck itself right now.
>>322393025
Because it's a case of superior control, not pure comfort.
DS isn't that comfortable as it is, and its gains over the SNES pad are minimal at best. If you want a controller with a high quality dpad and comfort, you get the Bone pad.
>>322388603
Where the fuck are you getting it for $25?
>>322393349
This is why ds3/4, xbone, and wii u pro are the only gamepads a sane person would purchase.
>hurr get wired
lol get with the fuckin times grandpa.
>>322393362
>high quality dpad and comfort, you get the Bone pad.
Haha nope.
The placement makes it automatically worthless for anything else but item swapping in games.
>>322393349
for the record, i'm only seeing 'new' wired xbox 360 controllers for 30+, so stay away or buy a superior dualshock 3
>>322393535
nevermind, it was one used one on amazon that sold out fast.
closer to 30-35
>>322388339
Yeah. Get an original DualShock 2 gamepad (if you don't have one lying around since the PS2 days) and an adapter to hook it up via USB. I'm still using my original DS2 to this day and it's still the best fucking gamepad I've ever used, and I've tried a lot.
>>322392739
What's not to understand?
In either case, you're just pressing four different analog switches, buttons if you will
The DualShock d-pad just gives each switch a separate button, and is alsoobjectively better than a disc pad because you know with complete certainty which one you're pressingtoo bad the rest of the dualshock's design is shit. a 360 layout with a dualshock d-pad would be literally perfect
>>322393714
Still, where?
>>322393557
So I guess the analogs on dualshocks are worthless because of their placement too right? Lmao you're a retard
I got this pad and it's probably the best one I've ever used. I shelled out a bit extra for the wireless adapter too since it works with W7 now. Has a 3.5mm jack in the bottom so you can plug in your headphones too.
>>322393545
>lol get with the fuckin times grandpa.
Fuck your new times, I want something that fucking works. Wired controllers don't need constant recharging and there's less signal lag, so fuck your shit son.
>>322393963
Yeah, I think the left one is pretty bad for 3D games.
That's why I said in this thread:
3D = One controller
2D = DS3 (or DS4)
>>322392479
>>322392689
No, the SNES/Master System/MD controller is the only one acceptable for 2d games.
Ds3 sucks for 2d games.
>>322394165
So then why is the right stick being lower alright with you then? Why not get a wii u pro controller and be consistent with your argument faggot
>>322394292
Because the buttons are clearly more important than the occasional camera controls.
>>322394236
don't group the clunky master system controller with the god-tier weightless and perfectly fitted SNES one.
>>322392560
>getting the steam controller for anything else than using it for HTPC purposes
I never use it except for when I go to my Steam Link to watch animu, browse web and play vidya from there.
The XBONE controller is superior in every single way.
>>322394087
>I'm so fucking pro, only a casual would be okay with suffering 1.5ms input lag
I bet your display has even longer response time.
>>322394418
Not in shooters. Not in a lot of games actually.
So let me get this straight, if i want to play Fallout New Vegas for example, you'd recommend the 360 or xbone controller outright over everything, but for more simple/basic games the dualshock reigns supreme?
>>322394595
>Not in shooters.
We're talking about PC gaming here.
If you play shooters on PC with a gamepad, your opinion is invalid.
So I'm picking between the DS4 and the Xbone controllers for PC gaming and I've got a few questions. Now, I assume the Xbone one works basically natively with new PC games, like the 360 did, whereas the DS4 requires 3rd party programs to function properly and needs to emulate the XB gamepad like the previous DS versions. Is this true?
As for old games that don't support Xinput, I take it both work equally well? Or does the Xbone have problems with DirectInput?
What about build/material quality? I've read stories and seen pictures of both the Xbone and DS4 controllers basically falling to pieces and breaking easily, especially the analog sticks which don't seem to hold up for long and the trigger buttons which seem to break all the time. How's that aspect?
>>322394624
Nah, the XBONE reigns supreme in everything, ignore the shitposters, even 2D is in the DPAD feels amazing and a lot more comfortable than the dualshock.
While the Xbox One Lunar White or Elite (one hundred and fifty us dollars) controllers are by far the comfiest and have the sturdiest build, a wired 360 controller is probably your best bet. It won't die battery wise, and it'll last you a very long time.
>>322388339
If you don't mind wired, the shield controller is awesome. No goofy offset sticks, and the triggers feel much better than the 360 controller.
>>322394714
Not all shooters are optimized for PC gaming. Even an idiot would know that.
>>322394714
Any game that uses right stick to control the direction your character is facing. Lots of games use similar control scheme these days, even third person games.
>>322394858
Yeah, but they don't need precise aiming unless you get into some random shooting section.
As I said, I'd never play any kind of shooter with a gamepad.
>>322394849
>Not all shooters are optimized for PC gaming.
What kind of PC shooter is unplayable with mouse + keyboard on PC?
>>322388603
Just bought an Xbone controller and I'm very happy with it. 360 controllers are great too, its well worth the money.
>>322394772
Thanks for the tip. I don't play games with high-response times like shooters but I do play some precision platformers that would require a comfortable finger positioning over everything.
>>322392560
What's wrong with the steam controller anon? I'm really enjoying mine, I haven't touched my 360 controller since apart from heavily modded new vegas which sc doesn't work with for some reason.
>>322394743
Never had any issues with old vidya and even emulators with either my xbone and 360 controller.
Go for it.
>>322392739
>I want a disc style one.
It is objectively worse for most games though.
>>322388339
Yeah, an Xbox 360 wired controller
>>322395164
DPAD and Buttons are in a shitty position, I don't know how Valve thought it was a good idea to have them that low.
>>322393714
get a xbone controller. On sale, new ones go for around $30
>All these ONE fags
I wasn't planning to even recommend the DS4 as I have it and love it but someone might differ
>Eckzbax UNO
Hahah holy shit is /v/ normie central? I've been to many military bases and all Cuckamericans literally every dude bro that doesn't play anything other than gaylo knows there's alternatives to the eckzbax one meme shit
Sure it's a good controller but don't try to hide the fact probably Chad calls you up and tells you to bring a controller over for when he wants to play on his console
>>322395335
i would but i'm probably going to buy a 360 at some point and i have no use for an xbone so i figure why not kill 2 birds with one stone.
>>322395164
It feels clunky to use
The two buttons in the back are easy to accidentally push in.
It's run on actual AA batteries
The DPAD is like way too large and honestly feels like It doesn't go the direction I want a lot of the time.
and I mean honestly, the whole touchpad thing on the right is complete ass compared to an extra joystick.
But I'll give it the fact that it has a shit ton of customization.
>>322395002
not precise aiming necessarily, but constant aiming.
I'm sorry you're just retarded.
>>322389091
Do not under any circumstance buy this controller or its wired variant. The sticks have huge dead zones by default, the wired one doesn't have rumble and despite looking like a Playstation controller which you would assume make it comfortable its not.
>>322395457
Are you retarded or simply the vocal minority shitposting this board that this strawpoll heavily implies?
http://strawpoll.me/6424428
The XBONE controller is currently the best one at the market, it is superior in every single type of game in comparison to the DS.
>>322395330
Yeah the dpad I can agree with, it's not good for platformers. Buttons were weird at first but I can understand why they put them there, to give more space for the right pad. I bought it for FPS/mouse heavy stuff and I am loving it for that since you can map the dpad to change weapons, quicksave etc, but I really wouldn't recommend it for 2d dpad platformers/2d fighters.
Worth it though for playing loads of my backlog on the couch when I don't wanna sit at my desktop.
>>322388339
The saitek 3200 rumble is great and slightly bigger.
Every third party controller has downsides, so the ones I experienced so far (in use for 3 years)
> loud clicking buttons
> d pad is average
> sometimes connection issues at startup with two if my USB ports (I think the ports weren't grounded propperly)
> in fast games like vvvvvv or hexagon the keybord has minimally faster input
> in Tomb raider guardian if fun, the right analog stick is dead when directing diogonally down (weird it's the only game with this issue for me).
Pros
> great size
> great recogbituon as a xbox controller in games
> programmable everything
>>322395457
I've been a Sonyfriend since the days of the PS1, and while I hold the opinion that the DS1/2/3 are some of the greatest gamepads ever made, I must admit that Sony fucked the pooch with the DS4, and that MS actually got their shit together and made a good gamepad for once. So I'd be one of those fags saying that the Xbone gamepad is the better option than the DS4.
>>322395540
you will regret having that shitty dpad if you want to emulate some side scrollers.
>>322395840
I only use it for watching TV and web browsing, both in desktop mode.
I rarely play vidya on it.
>>322395617
>It feels clunky to use
The two buttons in the back are easy to accidentally push in.
I haven't had that problem with it.
>It's run on actual AA batteries
This is a fairly valid complaint but also preference, personally I prefer buying some good rechargable batteries since it literally lasts for like a month. I have like 3 old sixaxis controllers that the batteries are almost dead for, and there's not really any way of fixing that.
>The DPAD is like way too large and honestly feels like It doesn't go the direction I want a lot of the time.
I'd agree with this, dpad isn't good for precision stuff at all.
>and I mean honestly, the whole touchpad thing on the right is complete ass compared to an extra joystick.
This is the one thing I have to disagree with. I've went from never ever wanting to play shooters on my couch to doing it all the time. That said i hated it at first for like two days solid until I realized how much you could tweak it to your liking + found something that worked, using another analog for aiming feels so slow now.
>>322396051
Fair enough anon.
>>322395947
Going to get SNES one as well, that's my favorite controller of all-time anyway so i planned on it before i even considered the 360.
>>322395785
>>322395924
>How to spot the normie
Read carefully next time fuckfaces.
I love the ONE controller because it's actually the 360 done correctly, the original is for fat fuck hands who have close to no dexterity to adapt
But go ahead keep talking normie
So this thread almost convinced me to get an Xbone controller. Two things, tho. How's it powered/charged, and does it work fine on Windows 7/emulators/old games, since I can't find any decent info about that.
>>322388603
>$25 is a lot, i just wanna be sure it's the absolute best thing i can get for the money
>>322392125
seriously this, i played on a bud's xbone and i have to say the shoulder buttons are absolute garbage, i mean the left and right bumper, the triggers are the same as the xbox 360s which i use for my PC, best controller to use imo unless you're emulating
>Buy DS4
>Gets detected by every game
>All the key bindings are fucked up
>All the 360 pad input wrappers make DS4 show up as a 360 controller AND another controller giving identical input
Anyway to fix this? DS4 has only really worked for me in games that natively support it like Helldivers and Rocket League
I also have a 360 controller but swapping between the two controllers is akward
>>322394458
Ugh, I don't know which one it is. Sega has so many consoles and they all have different names per region, I meant the Genesis controller instead of MS. My bad
>>322396286
The last shooter I played using a controller was Destiny.
So far the game's I've used the steam controller on are:
Undertale
20XX
Rocket League
Battleblock Theater
Binding of Isaac
Castle Crashers
Metal Slug 3
Lethal League
Overall I'm still giving it a chance but I just still haven't found it to be super incredible yet. I'm banking on that moment where I get so used to it that it becomes natural and amazing.
>>322396967
Use SPC drive/server
>>322396989
Yeah that pretty much happened to me, it's weird how it just clicked from "eh this isn't what i expected it to be" to it feeling great. Main reason I like it is I'm able to play shit that wasn't enjoyable with a 360 pad/ didn't support it before, having to remap a 360 controller to games that didn't have support sucked ass and never worked well. Now I can launch a random old fps, download the config and tweak it. It's little things like being able to use the back paddles for Q/E leaning in games.
My main rule with it is though if it's d-pad heavy it doesn't work as well as a regular controller unless you're someone who is okay with an analog stick instead
>>322397518
Download config for the game?
>>322397936
Yeah, there's loads of community configs that you can download and tweak before you launch the game/during it from within steam? The controller isn't anywhere near as useful without those. Also the beta client gets new SC features frequently
>>322398485
I've never seen any of that. I'm assuming you have to use big picture?
Because I never use that mode.
>>322397936
>>322398485
This area?
>>322396551
>How's it powered/charged
It's powered either with AA batteries or the micro usb female connector. If you don't already have a long usb male - micro usb male cable, then it'd be a good idea to get one.
>does it work fine on
>Windows 7
If MS has drivers for it, then it should work fine. I use mine on Windows 8.1 x64 and it works great.
>emulators
Just tested, works with latest snes9x-git, pcsx2, and epsxe.
>old games
Don't know. If DX has a compatibility layer for direct input, then it should work.
>>322395682
Deadzones are good though. With the 360 controller, half my games detect movement when there isn't any. That happens with two 360 controllers, they're too sensitive or center incorrectly which some games detect and preceive as movement.
>>322398678
Yeah you have to use big picture mode to see them but once you choose you don't have to, it'll work in desktop. They are supposed to be bringing support for it into the desktop section but the update hasn't came yet, it's a bit annoying.
>>322396551
It works on old games, but the triggers don't work
>>322393986
Nah, 360 is better, Xbox One version brings everything uncomfortably closer togeteher. Makes my thumbs hurt from playing USF4 too due to how the stick is shaped.
Since when does it work on W7 though?
thinking of buying elite
>>322390531
XOne sticks feel worse to me, make my thumbs hurt when playing USF4, unlike with the 360, probably due to the changed position and smaller size of it.
>>322398762
Thanks for the info, man.
>AA batteries
Jesus fuck, I thought that Nintendo were the only ones retarded enough to still use that shit instead of having a rechargeable power cell like the DS4. Still, since I'm only going to use it on my PC, it'll be hooked up via cable at all times, so it's not really a problem for me. But seriously though, fuck batteries, they need to die off once and for all.
Good to know it works with emulators, as I was afraid they might not like whatever drivers MS has since they seem to be based on direct input.
>>322399171
What do you mean? They don't work as triggers, only doing binary input like other buttons, or that they don't work at all? It would kinda suck not having two buttons for no good reason. Then again, guess I could always fall back on my Logitech if the Xbone doesn't want to work.
>>322388339
>cheaper
It's like 30 bucks poorfag
>>322399625
Think again. It's a gimmicky version that doesn't justify the triple goddamn price tag.
I'd rather use the DS3. I prefer the 360 as a controller but the D-Pad is absolute shit and the DS3 requires less shit to buy to use on your PC.
>>322395164
Steam controller doesn't even work with all the games I tried it with. Specifically with Mega Man Legacy or USF4, I make the touch pad be the XYAB buttons and nothing happens. Eventhough they actually work in Windows. Not to mention that you have to configure it individually for each game as one setting won't work for another game that needs different sensitivities. So have fun spending an hour with every game to make it work.
>>322399901
Dude what? They both require a USB cable, and that's it. If anything the DS3 is a bigger hassle because it's not natively supported like the 360 and requires fucking around with 3rd party drivers and programs just to get it to work properly.
>>322388339
I use a wired one for PC all the time, it's great
>>322399747
You only need the batteries if you wanna go wireless. AFAIK, MS hasn't released a wireless interface for PC yet. (Apparently it's not bluetooth.)
>>322399839
I have, but I hear it feels amazing and its half the price of SCUF
I'm PC-only though so IDK.
>>322400036
Are you sure you have enabled controller in game? Some of them require turning 360 controller support on manually in settings. I'm yet to find a game that doesn't work though so I'm really not sure.
>>322400261
Not if yours is wireless, like mine.
>>322400036
The only thing I've heard of interfering with it actually is F.lux
Bought Xbone controller and PC wireless dongle today.
I've been thinking of buying those Docking Stations to load mine up while it isn't being used, what is /v/ personal experience with those?
Heard that those degrade battery life a lot and end up just ruining the batteries, having to buy new ones either way.
>>322400036
Infact: http://www.steamcontrollerdb.com/game/ultra-street-fighter-iv
http://www.steamcontrollerdb.com/game/mega-man-legacy-collection
That's the only way I can link in-client configs over the internet, but as you can see there both support it perfectly fine.
>>322400512
What settings to enable 360? The controller works, just not some of it's functions. Like I said, the right touch pad can be made to use as the XYAB buttons but it actually doesnt work as such in all the games I tried it in so far.
>>322399747
Triggers don't work at all if the game uses dinput
The triggers are an axis, not a button. Most, if not all dinput games will only accept a button.
Games made in the last 10 years or so use xinput, where everything works plug and play
>>322400341
There is a wireless adapter, it's $25
>>322401067
Some PC games have a manual controller on/off option in the game settings, such as bethesda games. The game will ignore controller input unless that's turned on. There are a handful of games that ignore pc+controller input at once, again only bethesda games i've noticed so far, that you cant use the controller mapped to an xbox controller with say mouse aim on the right pad instead.
>>322401128
I see, that's a shame. I don't suppose there's any way to force/emulate DI for games that only support it? Because every once in a while I like to give something like THPS2 a spin and while it's not really a big problem to hook up a different controller for those moments, I'd still like to use one controller for everything gaming related if possible.
>>322400772
I'm talking about making the XYAB buttons be on the right track pad, that's what doesn't work.
>>322401574
I haven't tried that. Maybe opt-in to the beta client/opt out?
>>322401516
>I don't suppose there's any way to force/emulate DI for games that only support it
Not that I know of. I've looked for programs for that but google if fucking useless and instead insists that what I'm actually looking for is a dinput to xinput converter instead of the other way around
What you CAN do though is download a button mapper tool like antimacro or xpadder and configure the games to use keyboard buttons
>>322401882
I see. Well, looks like I'll just have to swap my old Logitech into the PC when I'm up for some classic gaming. The thing has this lovely feature where it's got a button on the back that switches between DI and XI on the fly, so it works with both old and new. Still, I've already ordered an Xbone controller, and I hope that it'll be as good as the people here praise it.
>>322388603
>$25 is a lot
Just get the logitech knockoff then.
It has the ps3 trigger things annoyingly but it's cheaper, works the same as the xbox and has an extra button for turbo.
>>322388459
>as if the 360 controller is better than knockoff controllers, including FUCKING GAMESTOP's version.
>>322388603
They're way cheaper on ebay..
Could probably get this, a trackball, and an optical lasers for a trackball controller.
The people that keep saying that knockoff XBOX/DS controllers are just as good are the same idiots that keep saying that chinkphones are as good as the original counterpart.
