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>Handheld which can use a stationary console for additional power
>Pokemon, MH, Mario Bros, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Etrian Odyssey and Zelda as launch titles
>Power of PS4
>Backwards Compatible to Wii U, Wii, Gamecube, 3DS, DS and Advance with adapters
Who /nintendomination/ here?
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I know this is obviously just wishful thinking buy god damn I want this to just be a virtual console machine that plays every nintendo console.
I don't trust nintendo to make new games anymore.
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>>322351742
Source: my ass
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Why would anyone waste their time making up shit on the internet
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>>322351742
>Power of PS4
This is literally not going to happen. Nintendo gave up on specs 15 fucking years ago, why does anyone think they'll compete again?

Half of it is because they're little yellow Jews and half of it is because how many of the greatest games of all time were made for the SNES, a system with three and a half megahertz of processing power?
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I'm fucking done already. As a long time fan i am HONESTLY dissapointed with nintendo

HOW COULD THEY break my trust
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>>322351974
>We are proud to present Nintendo NX: The first working WII U emulator for PC
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>>322351742
>they release a system that is on par with PS4
>a year later, Sony and Microsoft announce the PS5 and XBOX 3

They better make it as future proof as possible if they don't want it to bomb massively.
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>>322351742
Unless you provide source other than your shallow fertile boipussi, stop posting nintendrone wishlists for the NX.
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>>322352728
>implying sony and microsoft will kill off their consoles when most of their big games won't come out until 2017-18
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>>322352416
>what is the new ceo
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>>322352416
>15 years ago

More like 10 but still a pretty long time.
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Reminds that the Nintendo couldn't beat the Xbox One.
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>>322352728
>>322352830
We're stuck with this fucking gen until the 2020s.

Keep in mind the Xbox 360's run was 2005 to 2013
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>>322352871
Someone who is there for one year until they find a permanent replacement for Iwata.
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>>322352728
They shouldn't push for graphics so much or we'll get another handheld failure ala PS Vita.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REaUzHef9h4
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Game retailer survey
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>>322352416
You act as if the PS4 was this amazing powerhouse.

Its not.
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>>322352728

>future proof

Only the n64 was in theory future proof concerning it's generation. But they only went through with the expanded ram and not the full cd add-on that was supposed happen.
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>>322352990
>the one year where there specs are finalized for the nx
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SHITTY NETWORK FROM EARLY 00`s
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>>322352830
I honestly don't think this gen is gonna last as long as the last one.
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>>322353134
The NES, SNES, N64 and GameCube all had relatively strong specs for their time although only the N64 could really claim to be "the most advanced system", small storage aside.

The Game Boy, DS, 3DS, Wii and Wii U all had fuck awful specs for their time.
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>>322353020
So shit on tge 3rd parties again? They can't afford to do that.
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>>322353020
vita failed because there's no enticing games for the masses despite its decent hardware, and sony basically gave up on it once the PS4 took off. nintendo doesn't have that problem with their handhelds. there will always be droves of people lining up for the newest mario or pokemon, etc

>>322353321
ps4 will be like 3 years old by the end of this year, i really doubt they're already lining up its successor
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>bought a Wii U
>only decent game is Mario Kart
>Splatoon is shit
>Smash is a joke now, all the fun modes are gone and the roster is dog crap, shitty neo fire emblem crap everwhere
>Nintendo has now abandoned Wii U
>now focusing on mobile shit and happy meal toys
>only worthwhile upcoming game is Xenoblade which is ruined by NoA, and I can't import because region lock
>Zelda will be cross platform and gimped on the Wii U version

Fuck me. Never buying a Nintendo platform again
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>>322353040
Most SonnyNigger games will come out for PCucks too, their plan is to win them over as a consumer base. Microshit is too busy sucking it's own dick, to make use of the free Win 10 and Xbox One integration to snatch the PCucks, instead of focusing on "Made in Murika 4 Fatties" politics.
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>>322351742
At least they'll be using modern AMD hardware this time instead of the same recycled IBM+ATi chips they've had since the Gamecube.

Either way, unless they can pull the third party support and have a good selection of first party titles at launch the NX is DOA.
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>>322351742
>/nintendomination/
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>>322353548
So I guess the NX will win 2016 then. How could I be so blind?
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>>322353040
>an unannounced system that people outside of Nintendo even know it exists.

Oh no :^(
We don't even know for sure that it's comming out this year or what the system actually is.
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>>322353020
>extra credits
Vita failed because Sony didnt care.
Didnt secure any proper games, pushed over priced memory cards and generally treated the consumers like criminals.

A handheld like the Vita is fine specs wise.
Only when they go full retard like mobile phones and aim for 4k on screens like that we'll reach shit city.
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>>322353020
More capable hardware means lesser dev time, therefore cheaper dev cost.
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>>322351742
>Handheld
>Spike Chunsoft and most recent Koei Tecmo straight out say its a traditional home console
>It will come when the majority of the market already bought their console for that gen(just like wii u)
Stop putting hopes in Nintendo, the NX already got its ass beaten by the PS4 before it even was released.
Its just another wii u situation.
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>>322353764
Dev times have never been longer than this gen.

I dont believe that people still spam this garbage meme picture.
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>>322353703
Is Vita really such a failure?

I was thinking about grabbing the Vita Mega Pack Hits or the Action Pack.
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>>322353498
Yes 3 years old which leaves 1 to 2 more years for a normal console generation.
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What if it's a fucking smartphone

What if Nintendo goes all in and makes a reskinned Android thing with a tv dock and integrated controls

I kind of believe that could happen
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>>322353426

I personally cut nintendo some slack with the gameboy since while it was inferior tech wise it didn't make the horrible trade off in battery life like the game gear did.

But DS, 3DS, Wii and Wii U are most definitely very underwhelming in terms of specs.
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>>322351742
Honestly, Nintendo making the same mistake again: at this point a "Next-Gen" platform is irrelevant and all the hype for it is gone among the masses - everyone already bought a console of their choice for this generation and NX will just be there for the same old Nintendo fans (and even those are abandoning Nintendo at this point).

It will meet the same fate as Wii U
However I will buy it if it has WiiU emulation
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>>322353884
Not really. Neptunia games can be churned out three times yearly and can be justified by ~100k sales.
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>>322353950
It was a huge failure, but if it has the games you like you can grab it.

Like, shit not selling shouldnt bother you if it has the games you like.
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>>322351742
one day, you will realize how pathetic you are.
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>>322353950
It's a commercial failure just like the PSP and PS3. Some people do like it still.
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>>322354045
>reused assets out the ass with a shoestring budget
>dedicated fanbase that'll eat it up anyway

that's not really the norm
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>>322354045
Neptunia games are garbage in every single aspect.
Everything is recycled and low quality.

Thats nothing to brag about and definitely nothing to aim for.
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>>322353972
Iwata confirmed it's not an Android or iOS device before he died.
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>>322352416
every time nintendo released a console, it was at worst as powerful as the most powerful console from the previous gen.
It'll be the same.
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>>322354127
PSP was no failure either way.
It didnt win, but it was still huge.

The PSP sold eight times more than the Vita.
EIGHT.
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oh hey, ANOTHER NINTENDO CONSOLE. I'm sure it'll be left for dead in a year and another emulator will come out. Don't waste your money on this shit. Have you learned nothing?

>Backwards Compatible to Wii U, Wii, Gamecube, 3DS, DS and Advance with adapters
so, no games then?

>Who /nintendomination/ here?
only the dumbest of the retards
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>>322354134
>>322354142
Reality of life. Good thing Nintendo is known for original new IPs and their strict no rehashing policy.
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>>322351742
>Power of PS4
And the PS4 was only 5 years out of date when it launched. Could Nintendo be catching up?
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>>322353109
From what I've heard the PS4 and Xbone aren't that fantastic at all when it comes to their hardware, and that there isn't actually a big leap between them and the previous gen consoles. Is this true?
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>>322353040
Was this done on neogaf?
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>>322354127
>PS3
Not a fanboy

Just saying last gen was the first one in history without a major flop

The Wii sold incredibly and the PS3 and 360 both moved massive numbers of their own
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>Havin tha juice of a PS4 up in 2018 probably when up in 4 mo' muthafuckin years we will peep stronger consolez n' Nintendo will again n' again n' again be underpowered trash.

Will the cycle be broken in the fuute /v/ ?
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>>322354239
It was a commercial failure. The western market no longer became viable for many developers.

>>322354379
I said commercial. Sony lost over $4b. More than the profit earned from PS1 and PS2 combined.
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>>322354321
Not true.
PS3/X360 are literally 2000s-toaster-tier
It's just the incompetent devs who don't take their time to optimize properly.

Same was for the last gen too, though. 2006 games and 2012 games are different beasts entirely.
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>>322351742
>$400+
>console/handheld hybrid
How to kill your biggest market

If it wasn't for the 3DS, Nintendo would be failing BIG right now

I wouldn't buy a shitty NX just so that I can play some vidya. If the NX replaces the 3DS, the Vita will skyrocket in sales, and will become the PSP 2.0
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>>322354379
it was a flop in the sense that it cost sony a ton of money
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>>322353950

Vita is a failure in relation to what it could have been.

Sony dropped the ball hard letting 3DS get monster hunter and kingdom hearts 3d. Then atlus put persona q on 3ds, which is not only salt in the wound but is basically them testing the waters/ audience for a main persona port for nintendo's next portable system.

When you include the proprietary memory bullshit, eventual lost of 1st party support and original titles like gravity rush moving to but also having it's sequel on a console vita is a failure.
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>>322354470
But the hardware inside PS4s and Xbones aren't as fantastic as people make them out to be either though, right?
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>>322351742
>additional power
yes, three hour battery life like the Wii U's
>all those launch titles
citation needed, unless youre counting spin off like animal crossing party 2, zelda the power of four waffle slices, new super mario bros nx, port of pokemon shuffle to the nx
>power of ps4
rumor was as strong as xbox. and even if it were, why is it as strong as a previous gen system? falling behind again?
>prior gen games
they said that about the wii u and let's not kid ourselves - it took them three years to release N64 titles on it, which there's only been a handful - and funny enough one of the few DS releases coming out is Super Mario 64 DS - a port of a port, ported on Wii U while the original has been in the eShop for a few months now.

I'm all for the next Nintendo system, I'm just losing hope really fast. Given their recent decisions and the rumors circulating this fucking thing (and patents with a huge grain of salt) it's making me think it will be a huge fucking blunder.
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>>322354292
>their strict no rehashing policy.
Come on now
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>>322354464
>It was a commercial failure.
Cite your sources.
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>>322354701
It's called sarcasm kid. Welcome to the internet.
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>>322351742
We all can dream anon
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>>322354780
https://www.vg247.com/2013/01/07/xbox-360-and-ps3-losses-total-8-billion-ex-sony-employee-paints-grim-future/

http://www.1up.com/news/sony-lost-ps3-ps2
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>>322352929
10 years ago was 2006 you faggot. As in wii, 360, ps3
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>>322354492
Sony gave up on the Vita, it's a black hole for money at this point.

It's more likely that they'll make another handheld that doesn't require ridiculously overpriced sd memory cards.
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>>322354640
persona q is literally just a reskinned EO, i doubt it had anything to do with gauging interest for a main persona game. it'll sell to hardcore persona fans and people that like EO, but that's it
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>>322354898
Exactly, what's your point?
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>>322354675
It's not fantastic, but it's equivalent to what it costs and is just enough for the games like Witcher 3 to run max'd out (PC equivalent) with stable 30 fps without any drops.
It's just that it requires good optimisation which the devs usually never put enough time for, thus all the sub-30 releases and constant patching.
It took Witcher 3 devs half a year to make this game run bearable.
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>>322354321
The PS4 has a PS3 tier CPU.
Its pretty shit in that regard.

The GPU is kinda alright but nothing amazing.

Biggest change is the RAM. It was the biggest bottleneck last gen with 256mb dedicated to games so they slammed a fuckton of it in.
Its also cheap.

Its generally a really underwhelming generation leap though.
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>>322354682
Every rimour should be taken with a grain of salt, not just patents. NX threads are just console fan fiction and I'd rather wait for them to actually tell us what the damn thing actually is, which is not long now.
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>>322354857
Where the PSP datas at
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>>322354134

NSMB and every smart phone "match three" puzzle game begs to differ.
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>>322354798
To be fair there are actually nintendo fans out there who totally believe in that.
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>no NES, SNES, N64, Gameboy, or Gameboy color compatibility

FUCKING DROPPED
IT'S GARBAGE
GAME OVER NINTENDO
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>>322354898
That's what I said you fucking gay retard.
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>>322354919
Sony won't. They already have a new platform to dedicate resources to.
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>>322355048
like PS2/PS3, Sony lost all their PSP money due to the vita
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>>322354919
>It's more likely that they'll make another handheld that doesn't require ridiculously overpriced sd memory cards.
They definitely wont learn from that.

They'd rather kill their handhelds forever than admit that there is a problem with the memory cards.
Hell, thats what they did with the Vita TV.
They sold this shit for 20$ but still charge 100$ for 64gb.
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>>322355026
CES is having a private reveal, right? Can we expect to get info after it? I'm not even sure what that means...is the private reveal supposed to be kept under wraps or is it something like the Pacman announcement where people literally just blogged what was happening and shortly after the info was shown?
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>>322355161
I believe it. But I seriously doubt that the PSP was a commercial flop.

At most smaller third parties suffered from the extreme piracy.
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>inb4 source
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>>322354640
>but is basically them testing the waters/ audience for a main persona port for nintendo's next portable system.

People are actually this deluded
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>>322355081
I like this.
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>>322352416

Even if it happened it doesn't mean anything.

Power is the last of nintendo's problems. They have succesfully ran themselves out of this industry by burning all their bridges with third party developers.

Even if this console ends up being as powerful as a PS4 or even MORE powerful than it, it's just bound to end up like another Wii U with only the sequels of the exact same franchises and extremely scarce releases every few months.

It also doesn't help that the nintendo fanbase doesn't give a flying fuck about anything non-nintendo.

What nintendo needs is to do a full reestructure to change the horrible image attached to them. They need management that is actually able to understand modern technologies and someone needs to remind them the internet actually exists and is a thing.

Also if they release this mid-gen it will die a worse death than the wii u ever could.
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>>322354292
>saying that when splatoon and xenoblade got in the spotlight

would you really put something like galaxy, 3D world, and mario maker on the same level of neptunia? all 3 completely different games using the same IP isn't rehashing, shit like NSMB is rehashing

>>322355202
it's rumored to be there, but there would probably be an embargo or something. someone would probably leak it anyway
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>>322355261
it wasn't. It just became a nightmare for Sony in the west once piracy became easily available.
Same than Nintendo with the DS desu, but this one sold a lot more and Nintendo is usually thinking about profits from the start (apart from 3ds/wiiu)
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>>322351742
>handheld + console
>so another crap console + tablet gamepad
bwahhwahawhbwahwabhwahbwabhwabwa
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>>322353321
it's okay to be wrong. The first two years of ps4 and xbone were just loads of ports. They haven't even hit their stride yet, it will be another 5 years minimum before the next ones are announced.
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>>322354938

This would be true if it wasn't for the fact that Sony seems like it has no more interest in producing a successor to Vita right now.

When the inevitable Persona 5 portable game comes along the only portable platforms left will be nintendo and mobile devices.
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>>322355202
If it's like the Wii U, yes it is. I honestly hope someone films it with a hidden camera and leaks it.
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>>322355313
Google says that half of that is false.
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>>322352416
the ps4 raw power is ubercrap that a office pc can outrun it so the nx which is next gen is already pure unadulterated crap
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>>322353537
>bought a wii u last week
>refurbished so only 200bux
>was planning to put 5.5 iosu exploit on it when it comes out and pirate games
>somehow the firmware is on 5.3.2 which is really rare for a refurb and i can do piracy now and do it more easily when the exploits come out sometime this month
feels fucking good
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>>322355313
I'm assuming the conclusions are supposed to be sarcastic?
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>>322351742
Also
>Upgradable console

It will be the thing. PS5 and XBOX720 comes out and all Ninty had to do is sell Processor Part #2 that has more power along with newer more better looking games.
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>>322351742
>nintendomination

Oh, is the next ride already starting?

Alright then, let me just get some popcorn ready.
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>>322355563
>direct quotes
>false
Keep being retarded.
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>>322355416
I doubt that Nintendo suffered all that much from piracy anyways.

When you make games for a wide audience chances are that many will buy.
Niche shit gets pirated more often because people into that are usually also aware of piracy methods.

Stuff like Pokemon and Mario always sold on the DS. Stuff like Ghost Trick didnt.
Same with the PSP. GTA, Gran Tourismo, Final Fantasy and other shit like that sold, the smaller games got fucked.
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>>322355401
Neptunia also is using the same IP but have very different games.

Hyperdimension Neptunia
Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2
Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1
Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 2: Sisters Generation
Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 3: V Generation

Hyperdimension Neptunia The App
Hyperdimension Neptunia U: Action Unleashed
Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory
Hyperdimension Neptunia VS Sega Hard Girls
Hyperdimension Neptunia: Producing Perfection

Megadimension Neptunia VII
MegaTagmension Blanc + Neptunia VS Zombies

Hyperdevotion Noire: Goddess Black Heart
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>>322354682
At least for Animal Crossing, I'm guessing the next big console title will be on NX. There's usually a 4 year gap between titles (excluding City Folk, and even the devs acknowledge that that thing was shitty and rushed and won't be pulling that shit again). While one could expect a surprise release this year, or an announcement at E3 this year/release next year, I think if they wanted to release their next big Animal Crossing on Wii U they would have announced at least something by now. We're going to get a proper NX announcement at next E3 right? And people are speculating that it'll be available Q4 2016/2017. So it wouldn't make any sense to release a game on a console which is going to be replaced soon after. I know they've done shit like that plenty of times before in the past but the fanbase is massive and it would guarantee a shitload of NX sales, and I have no doubt that the devs have access to NX devkits by now.
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>>322351742
>Power of PS4
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gen 7 -> wii sales +++
ds sales - - -
gen8 -> wiiu sales - - -
3ds sales + + +
gen9-> nx - - -
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>>322355826
>ds sales - - -
What?
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>>322355826
>ds sales ---

AHAHAHAHAH
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>>322354284
I spit on Sonyggers like you.
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>>322355335

>implying you aren't the one deluded here

They did this shit with rhapsody and disgaea for ds, the interest wasn't there so they dropped it. Now they are doing it with persona and not only is there some semblance of interest but with Sony's 1st party abandonment of Vita and focus on console there needs to be a new home for their portable ports. It's either going to be nintendo or mobile devices.
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>>322353537
>now focusing on happy meal toys

fify

My 3DS has been game dry for years now.
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>>322355669
there were plenty of naysayers here when the wii came out

the real lesson is that /v/ is just full of retards who have no idea
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>>322355503
They wouldnt need to test the Nintendo audience then.
Like, if the Vita is truly the last Sony handheld Nintendo will just absorb the playerbase from it, unless some competition pops up.

Wouldnt know who though.
Handhelds are so japanese and there's only Nintendo and Sony left at this point.
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Outrage before its time? Or an innovation that raised the bar for content unlocking?
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>>322356097
>He didn't buy PSMD!
Although to be honest, that's the only recent 3DS game I can think of which is worth buying.
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>>322354134
>that's not really the norm
tell that to every sports game, every shooter, every bethesda game, every yearly-release game that sells 500k+ opening week.
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>>322356038
Classical nintendrone persecution complex.
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>>322356371
>pokemon game past gen 4.
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>>322356424
What consoles you own?
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>>322354218


What is the n64, what is the gamecube.

Nintendo started being tame on specs with the Wii.
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>>322355313
Who gives a shit what the hardware is like when the worst shittiest jewwiest company is going to be behind it?

Call me when Nintimblr stops their ammibo bullshit, their $60 single HD remastered game bullshit, their $100 controller bullshit, their "We must censor everything for American audiences because we here are Nintumblr are strong feminists who are against such objectification" bullshit, their reselling digital copies of fucking 30 year old NES games bullshit, their charging you for things like competent battery power and the ability to have a wired internet connection bullshit, and their "You must buy our game twice in two of our platforms to unlock this content" bullshit.

>inb4 "BU-BUT SONY! BU-BUT MICROSOFT!"
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>>322354218
Holy millenials batman!
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The things i would do for a mainline Monster Hunter on TV / PC again
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>>322356527
>missing out on the best gen

I feel so sorry for you.
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They've indicated the handheld would do streaming but I can't see any benefit of a docking mechanism.

The console will be orders of magnitude more powerful than the handheld, any potential benefit of the handheld would be offset by the difficulty of coding for ARM and x64 at the same time.
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>>322356701
>gen 6
>best gen

it has the best girls, but that's about it
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>>322356256

>Nintendo will just absorb the playerbase from it, unless some competition pops up.

Competition did show up, they're called mobile devices. If you think this isn't the case look no further than square-enix, sega and capcom.

That's why they are testing the waters because there is an alternative.
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>>322356592
You must be retarded

>inb4 "N-N-NINTENDRONE!"
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>>322356791
this
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it all started going downhill after the DS didn't it?
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>>322356527
>Wahhhh I'm a baby who doesn't like certain character designs and would rather miss out on a fantastic game than even look at them for a second
PSMD is really great, the story is up there with Sky. You're missing out man.
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>>322356791
I was talking about gen 5. Gen 6 is a step backward from it.
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>>322351742
>Etrian Odyssey as launch title

I'd buy it!
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>>322351742
>Power of PS4

Oh boy, now there's something to gloat about
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>>322356849
SE, Sega and Capcom still make handheld games.
Capcom wouldnt be around anymore if it wasnt for their handheld games.
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>>322356371
Literally the only 3DS game coming out next year I'm looking forward to is Bravely Second. I may as well sell both my 3DS and Wii U in one go after that. This is the last time I buy a Nintendo system. It's a shame, since I've bought them all since the NES. Nintendo is just not the same company it used to be.
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>>322351742
>Monster Hunter on something other than a hand held
Would buy it.
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>>322355397
>hur dur third party relationships

Third parties develop for consoles where they'll make money, that's it. There's no relationship to fix. If the next console has a similar architecture compared to other consoles, it will get ports, if not, it won't.

It's that simple.
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>>322356849
handhelds won't die out until mobile phones get a better control scheme and battery life to support non-flash tier games, and that probably won't ever happen without making it horribly unattractive to the average person. people don't buy phones to play games

>>322356921
carry on then
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>>322353040
actualy from gameretailer means that on these platforms are the most game got sold back. So that means ps4 sucks ass, xbox one kinda sucks, pc people could not resell their games and I don't know who owns nintendo nx.
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>>322357042
I'm really hyped. Project X Zone 2 and Final Fanfasy x MonHun oh, and FE: Fates
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>>322352416
well ps4 does have last gen specs so its not that hard actualy
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>>322357042
>Literally the only 3DS game coming out next year I'm looking forward to is Bravely Second.
Shit taste detected.
Much more coming next year.
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>>322356852
as someone who likes nintendo, saying "you're retarded" doesn't really point out why you think he's wrong
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I'm cautiously hyped. Looks great but probably won't reach its full potential.
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>>322357302
>PxZ2, MHX, FE fates, new ace attorney, new etrian odyssey never ever
>3ds about to be fully hacked and emulation is making steady progress

feels good man
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>>322357035

>Capcom wouldnt be around anymore if it wasnt for their monster hunter games.

I corrected that for btw.

But in all seriousness while those three devs do still make games for 3ds, some of their resources is still spent on mobile devices. Said resources that could help strengthen 3ds is lost to android and ios.
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Honestly, the weakness and the shitty controls, online and saving system aren't the things that bother me most about the system.

It's the complete lack of quality games. All of nintendos first party support has been so lame. Smash sucks. Mario Kart sucks. Squid game is shitty kid shit. Mario Maker is something nobody asked for.

Where are all the big games? Where is the real Mario game (and no 3d world doesn't count). Where is the next zelda and why does it already look shit? Star fox looks bad with the forced gyro controls (you fags say it's optional but I have yet to see nintendo actually not us gyro controls).

Xenoblade is mmo garbage.

It's all complete shit
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Would you be surprised if the NX were revealed to be Nintendo's entry into the smartphone industry, but designed as a phone aimed at gamers? Something like Xperia, but somehow not shitty.
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>>322357702
I would have rebutted his points, but he would have just replied with "NINTENDO DEFENSE FORCE" or similar so I opted for the short version.

Here's the long one
>Nintimblr
>ammibo
>$60 single HD remastered game (I don't see you complaining when others do it)
>$100 controller (implying you need to buy one)
>they censored TWO (2) games, yeah I don't like censorship at all but for fucks sake, after they start censoring every game I'll agree with you
>oh right, they should give you their old games for free why? (yeah the prices are definitely too high though)
>agreed on the charger and network adapted
>that happened once and you were not forced to buy both versions of Smah, you can just buy the DLC like normal, stop spouting bullshit like they do it wit every game

There, now feel free to call me a nintendrone.
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>>322358215
Shit idea.
Stop.
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>>322353321
What in the hell excuse do you have for believing this? There were actually no games for Xbone and PS4 for the first year. They had their first "good" year in 2015. We will have these systems for at least three more years. I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't hear shit about the next ones until 2018.
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My ideal console from what we've got in terms of information so far:

A console similar to the Wii U in concept, but branded as a completely separate system.

The controller is a handheld similar in strength to the PS Vita, which can be played as an entirely separate system away from the TV.

On it's own it can do shit like count steps like a pedometer, take photographs, and offer a more traditional way of playing handheld games.

When connected to the TV, it becomes a home console with increased graphics and processing power.

GAMES:

>Super Smash Bros. X
(an enhanced port of SSB4 with all DLC characters, more stages, and a few newcomers)
>A new F-ZERO with GOOD gyro controls
(to show off the power of the controller)
>The Legend of Zelda Wii U port
(we all now it's coming anyway)
>A new Animal Crossing
(preferably as a laugh title. AC games work best when they're handheld, but they're comfier on a TV. This could be a match made in heaven)
>A fully 3D Kirby adventure game
(Seriously, why the fuck is this not a thing? City Trail on Kirby Air Ride was amazing. It's obvious the Kirby formula would work wonders in 3 dimensions so why are they scared of money?)
>Pokemon Stadium 3
(Bit of a long shot, but hey. The game should come with 45 Pokemon from each gen, and the rest should be available only via connecting your own game to Pokemon Bank/XY/ORAS/Gen 7 games)
>Super Mario Kart 8
(Enhanced port of Mario Kart 8. Give us all the DLC tracks and characters + enhanced graphics, and all the characters we should have had the first time around for god's sake, like Diddy, King Boo, Birdo and Funky Kong)

Also, no more virtual console bullshit. I shouldn't have to wait for a game on Wii U that already got released on Wii VC like 4 years ago. They're in HD already on the Wii U eShop, so the systems should share VC titles.
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>>322358215
Yes, since they literally said it won't be that.
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>>322355342
fag
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>>322357229

>handhelds won't die out until mobile phones get a better control scheme and battery life to support non-flash tier games,

I'll agree with you on control scheme but mobile phones have a decent enough battery life right now.

>and that probably won't ever happen without making it horribly unattractive to the average person.

They will find a way, apple and samsung will find a way.

>people don't buy phones to play games

Yeah, just like how people don't buy game consoles to listen to music, watch movies or browse the internet...oh wait, THEY FUCKING DO!
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>>322358414
Idk, just speculation based on how laughably underpowered they already are. But if what you say ends up being the case, Nintendo might just pull it off.
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>>322354464
>>322354509
You know what?

I'm gonna believe you

And I'm gonna ask

How the FUCK does a company move 100 million units and LOSE money?!?
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>>322358457
You forgot the new Retro game and a new Metroid.
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>>322351742
>Power of PS4

PS4 is already too weak, and NX won't be out until at least two years.
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You know what would be cool?

A normal fucking console that doesn't gamble on gimmicks.
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>>322358903
>make thing for $100
>sell at $50
Guess what happens when you sell 30M of it.
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>>322354321
Compared to the leap from ps1 to ps2 and ps2 to ps3 you can clearly see the leap isnt' really there.

And a lot of PS4 and xbone games either can't play the games in 1080 or not in 60fps, so overall it's better to just get a PC if you want some amazing graphics.
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>>322358732
i dunno man, the majority of people out there buy phones because they're fucking phones, they just happen to be powerful enough to play games on the side. there's literally a million better alternatives to listen to music or watch movies and stuff, it's not 2001 anymore where a cheap ps2 being able to play DVDs was a godsend

>>322358903
$599 US dollars
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>>322358215
Gee, given that is what they literally said the NX will be, yes.

>>322358406
>A handheld console, but its also a phone
>No longer need to carry two devices around
>A shit idea
I bet you still carry around a separate mp3 player like a caveman.
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>>322351742
>>Handheld which can use a stationary console for additional power
>>Power of PS4

This will either launch at $500+ or be complete shit like the 360 and have major hardware problems.

>>Backwards Compatible to Wii U

Isn't the NX supposed to run alongside the Wii U, though? That would completely defeat the purpose, the Wii U would truly be useless. Unless that was just a blatant lie.
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Quick question: did the New 3DS fix the standby battery time issues the original and XL 3DS' had?
I have both a 3DS and a Vita (RIP) and the Vita is a LOT better at stand-by battery. I can leave it in standby for 2 weeks and it'll still have life while the 3DS only lasts a few days
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>>322359778
it did, but not by much. you're not going to get anywhere near vita standby
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Whats your NX wishlist? Mine would have to be:

* As powerful as XB1 or PS4
*Good internal memory
*Great launch titles
*More 3rd party and adult game series
*Non gimmicky controller
*Backwards compatibility
*An ethernet port as standard
*Something like Xbox Live Gold or PSN Plus where you get one or two free games a month

Anything i have missed?
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>>322359626
SHIT IDEA
FUCKING RETARD
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>>322353040
A console that won't be out will be less popular then one that exist.
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>>322351742
>Power of PS4

Dude, literally my old GPU (7790) is as strong as the PS4. And it's a mid-low end GPU. If the new console does not have a clear advantage over the PS4, it's gonna get crucified.
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>>322360094
Pretty much what you said, and a good dpad on the inevitable pro controller. No way this will happen though, their last good dpad was on the DS phat. I only want it to have decent specs so the retards can shut up about that.
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>>322360094
>wanting paid online
Please kill yourself
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>>322358732
>>322359291
I wanna let /v/ know because it's news to me

Those shitty f2p cash shop or 99 cent apps that are all like garbage time waster flash games?

They are now THE biggest segment of the gaming business.

30 billion fucking dollars revenue for Android and iOS games in 2015, compared to 26 billion for Xbone/WiiU/PS4 combined

This commercial alone cost $40 million, and God knows what the new Schwarzenegger one costs
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>>322359291

> i dunno man, the majority of people out there buy phones because they're fucking phones, they just happen to be powerful enough to play games on the side.

Which is 100% true, but you also have to remember we are now having the first generation of children raised with phones being their first "gaming device" which has huge implications on the future of the industry.

>there's literally a million better alternatives to listen to music or watch movies and stuff,

This is true too but sadly being a better alternative isn't enough to persuade some, Apple has proven this time and time again.

>it's not 2001 anymore where a cheap ps2 being able to play DVDs was a godsend

True, but it didn't stop Sony from banking on their PS3 to sell their Bluray brand.
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>>322360094
>PSN plus
>Live Gold

They're already working on something like that. Look up My Nintendo account and it's free.
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>>322360515
I don't mind paying a fair price for a years subscription with free games every month.

Maybe free online but if you pay a years subscription,you get free games and stuff.

One thing i did forget-achievements or trophies!
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>>322353040
>game retailer survey
PC isn't allowed in game retailer stores, hence the low %, desu
otherwise PS4 and Xbox wouldn't stand a chance
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>>322361415
On the other hand Skyrim was still regularly in the top five Steam best sellers five fucking years after it came out

Jesus, what was so special about that game?
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>>322352474
>>322353537
>>322353590
None of you actually care about nintendo.

I want this retarded wojak meme to die.
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Reminder that getting past the wiiU in terms of processing power requires using what Japan classifies as "military grade" hardware - and with their government being what it is, there's a lot of fear that Nintendo will be buying into the Military Industrial Complex.

They're taking a lot of risks by elevating the hardware even to PS4 standards.
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>>322362806
Sauce?
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>>322362806
>Sony isn't japanese!
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>>322363115
Forbes has a really interesting article about it.

>>322363308
When the PS4 came out, the government had a much more liberal party in power and by proxy not as much worry about potential military applications for a gaming system.
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>>322358719
I dont like you.
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>>322363793
I'm a girl so that makes sense.
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>>322363905
wow what a cunt
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>>322353950
it is a massive success, don't listen to all the nintoddlers who say otherwise
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>>322364024
This is what vitaboos believe
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>>322364024
>it is a massive success
For weebs**

Which I am.
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>>322352416
It is actually supposed to be significantly more powerful than the ps4
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>>322364024

Holy shit, nearly every single game on there besides Wipeout and Killzone are weeb jap games with chinese cartoon art styles.
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>>322352416
>Nintendo gave up on specs 15 fucking years ago,
>2016-15=2001
Explain.
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>>322364021
I was aware of that, thanks.
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>>322364386
Source?
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>>322351974
with a hacked Wii U and 3DS, you basically can play every Nintendo game
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>>322363513
>Forbes has a really interesting article
When it was, or link, please?
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>>322351742
>>322351974
If it has third party support it can be great. Bit I agree with you that Nintendo can't make games anymore, Mario Kart and Smash excluded.

>>322352416
>Nintendo gave up on specs 15 fucking years ago

Except the Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2. So they gave up on specs 10 years ago, not 15.

>>322352986
PS5 and Xbox 4 already confirmed for 2018 by AMD.
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>>322364898
And in the future maybe with just a wii u. A ds emulator would fit perfectly, so would a 3ds one
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>>322355181
Vita has many ports of PC indie games, I heard Sony is giving devkits if not for free then for the low price.
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>>322360808
>achievements or trophies!
PLEASE NO
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>>322360094
Backward compatibility with the Wii U controller.
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>>322360094
>xbl psn plus
CANCER
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>>322351742
>>Handheld
>>Power of PS4
How do they do it?
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>>322360808

>One thing i did forget-achievements or trophies!
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>>322354284
I absolutely love Nintendo but this picture had me rollllin.
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>>322367363
>>322366339
what's wrong with those? it's completely optional and there for people that give a shit about that stuff
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>>322364024
I like my vita, but its exclusives can't compete with the big ones on 3DS.

>I love Dungeon travelers 2, but it lacks the polish of the EO
>I Love Danganronpa, but just like Virtue's last reward the weaboos elements feel forced compared to 999 and Phoenix Wright
> I like good platformers but Little big Planet can't be reasonnably compared with Mario games
>I'm a fan of Atlus' SMT, personas, and I have all the personas on vita, and still I come back to Soul Hackers/Strange Journey/Devil survivor

I've always been a nintendrone and I discovered Crash bandicoot 1 and 2 Klonoa with Vita and I loved the first one, discovered Klonoa, and more recently the FF (I had played FFT long tie ago on emulators and never touched the main series).

The console is more or less an emulation console, which is fine, but it has few real GOATs if not for P4G, Soul Sacrifice, Danganronpas, Disgaea 4 and muramasa (and except Soul Sacrifice, they are all ports.)
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>>322360808
>Achievements or trophies
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I felt the biggest fault of the WiiU was it's unambitious 1st party games. What it should've got were more games like Pikmin 3, Splatoon, W101, Bayo and Smash. Instead it got flooded with 2D platformers no one asked for, shovelware spinoffs and mario sports.
The biggest crime though was not giving Metroid a proper game.
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>>322367830
>realistic metroid xDD
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>>322367830
>The biggest crime though was not giving Metroid a proper game.

NX is 2016
Just wait for E3
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>>322367830
It was a mixed bag. While the Mario titles felt unvervelming. Smash 4 and Mario Kart were pretty ambitious in comparison to their predecessors. Zelda seems to go that way as well. Xenoblade too was a very ambitious game.
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>>322351742
Thats about as likely as Nintendo NX being a car that doesn't play games and Nintendo going third party for Microsoft only.

IE, you fucking wish.
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>>322368005
Metroid has always been the more realistic of Nintendo's franchises. It'd make sense that with stronger hardware, the games would look more realistic while still maintaining solid sci-fi aesthetic.
>>322368140
*The biggest crime though was not giving Metroid a proper WiiU game.
Sorry if that comes off as 'moving goal posts' but that's what I originally meant to post.
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>>322367490
>it's completely optional
It's optional to care about them, but you can't completely turn them off.
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>>322366339
>>322367363
>>322367765
I guess you like most of your games being dead in under a month.
>b-but just make self-made challenges like speedruns!!!!
No. That's stupid. There's no incentive at all to do shit like that unless you want to hang out with autists at AGDQ charities. Leveling up your profile is like a game itself. That's why achievements are so popular. Are you telling me it isn't fun to complete all of the achievements in Sakurai's games?
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>>322368687
How about playing because it's fun? I know, right?
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>>322368479
does a small popup for a second or two really detract from the gameplay that much?
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>>322368795
For me there's only a handful of games that I replay. The ones I can name on the top of my head are MGS2&3 and Zero Mission.
As for games I find fun and enjoyable that's a truck load.
So adding cheevos and trophies to a game wouldn't harm it, it worked for Wonderful 101.
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>>322368795
First playthrough is a pure fun run. Later playthroughs are achievement runs until getting achievements is aggravating and unfun.

With Nintendo games, the first run is a fun run then the other runs are "I'm bored and have nothing to do" runs. Unless it's Kid Icarus or Smash, then you want to get all of the achievements and trophies and 100% the game.
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>>322369119
Am I missing something? Why do you need to have cheevos then? If you want to 100% a game just do it.
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>>322369119
Hum. Bayo 2 W101, Xenoblade, Pikmin 3 are game that have achievements. Even Fatal Frame has them as rankings and unlockables.
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>>322369317
100%'ing games without achievements is typically way too short and you don't feel any progress. Look at Zelda games. Oh, I got all the Heart Pieces. Whatever. Oh, I got all the Gold Skulltulas. Whatever. Nothing about it is challenging. Nintendo isn't saying, "I dare you to beat this boss using spin attacks only." You're not thinking, "Yeah, this is part of the game, I'm beating this game real good" when you come up with challenges on your own.

In Sakurai's games, you get the satisfaction of breaking boxes and seeing colorful images while also getting items necessary for a true 100%. Sakurai knows what the fuck he's doing. He needs to convince Nintendo to get on board with his achievement system.

>>322369819
That's what I'm saying. Why not just have those in all of their games?
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>>322364024
Dude, what a shit library
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>>322364959

Not that anon but, he may be right.

https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/EinarEngvig/case-study-of-the-eighth-generation-of-video-game-consoles-and-the-export-control-of-high-performance-computers

A game console as or more powerful than ps4 is in fact considered "military grade" now because it's effectively an over the counter super computer sold to the average consumer.

Holy shit, why has /v/ not talked about this at all? Our hobby may literally be deem too much of a "high security risk" to not be fully regulated now.
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>>322365492
There is a working DS emulator for Wii U already.
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>>322359032
great idea if they want to go bankrupt
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>>322368829
First and most I don't like with achievements is they are public and seen by everyone, so they can how much an autist I am.
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>>322360808
>muh achievements
fucking underage faggots
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>>322368829
First and most I don't like with achievements is they are public and seen by everyone, so they can know how much an autist I am. I want to play games on my own and for my fun but not to compete with others how much achievements I have and they have.
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>>322371923
>>322372150

it's not like you can't hide them but that would actually require brain.
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>>322372150
But I want.
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>>322371958
>doesn't capitalize normal text or use punctuation
>calls people underage
>>
A dual handheld/console sounds cool in theory until you realize how limiting it is.

Remember how Ice Climbers wasn't in smash because it didn't work on 3ds? Imagine that for every single game.
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>>322351742
It sounds good, but third parties when?
Never, they were barely present since N64 days
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>>322356331
More like the pre-dating of Amiibo
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>>322372494
>being a grammar nazi
>>>/reddit/
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