Name a better console.
Segafags need not apply.
PS Double.
>>322330113
Muh nigga.
Whenever I get nostaligic with my mates everyone always talks about N64 or the game cube. Th worst are the hipsters who pretend like the NES was the best console ever.
WHAT ABOUT THE SNES???
SO MANY GOOD GAMES!
Megaman x series, Kirby All stars, etc
Fucking loved that console.
I think I still have a couple of them in my basement somewhere.
>>322330113
That's easy.
>>322330113
Hello.
>>322330459
A glorified dvd player is your idea of a game console? Wow.
The PS2.
Maybe the NES and Genesis as well, but that's a hard call. All three are amazing consoles.
>>322330589
this desu
>>322330113
Yeah, fuck off mate. We got Blast Processing.
>>322330113
ps1 for me, but I'm not mad at your opinion. I had a snes and a genesis as a kid so I was neutral in the console wars. These days I can only play rpgs and platformers on snes. My ps1 diet is mainly jrpgs too, but I prefer those in psx library over the snes titles and that's why psx is better to me. I still adore those on the snesand genesis
The SNES was just a rehashes NES.
The NES is the console that made video games a medium, an artform, a state of higher being.
>>322330113
dat diverse and extensive library
>>322331179
Hipster autist detected.
The first plumbing welds were done with lead.
So I guess those were the best kind of welds since they were the first ones that worked well huh?
>>322331309
You misunderstand - The NES laid the foundation for every genre to come. Every game being made today uses the formula set by the NES. Platformer? Copy Mario. RPG? Copy DQ. Adventure? Copy Zelda. Exploration? Copy Metroid. Horror games, text adventures, even 2deep4u all existed here in their most basic state of raw gameplay.
Vidya began and ended with the NES.
>>322330113
>>322331607
Literally superior in every way.
>>322331607
>>322332261
>50Hz instead of 60
>otherwise the exact same shit
I don't think so Tim.
>>322332428
>Colorful buttons that help in-game prompts (NTSC needed to name everything)
>Sleek damage-resistant hull
>>322330113
PS1. SNES is a close second. Loved its vibrant games, but sometimes I feel the NES was more fun, even if it had more shit games than the SNES too. PS2 may have sold more, but I think it only did so well because of the reputation of the PS1.
>>322332554
This.
I posted it knowing some lesser smart Americans would ruin it for the majority of smarter Americans that know that both EU and JP had this model, but JP had both 50Hz and 60Hz.
>>322330113
>Segafags need not apply.
because you know dreamcast is GOAT
SEGA Genesis.
>>322332714
As a yuropoor I do have to wonder about games where you're told which button to press by colors alone. There were a few, like the crystals in DKC3
>>322332554
>actually needing visual aids for your controller
>looking at your controller
Most computer keyboards are uniformly colored, and anyone competent can type without looking at it.
If you can't even manage four buttons, something's wrong.
>implying durability matters that much for a home console
If you live in a trailer park where shit gets tossed around, maybe you could do with durability. Most normal people leave their consoles near the TV and don't move it around. And even if it's that important to you, it's not like the American SNES was brittle.
>>322333110
The American SNES is covered in asscracks where dirt gets in. A clean European SNES rejects all filth.
>>322331539
Then what about games like Pitfall! or Adventure?
>>322333207
>dirt gets in
I generally don't make a habit of playing with my SNES outdoors.
If you're talking about dust and other household debris, well, clean your house, faggot.
>>322333223
These are unrefined raw material, as in where the concept was born. While not devoid of praise, it took until the NES for people to figure out how to make them work.
>>322331539
You are some weirdly misplaced bait. Go troll /vr/, no one here is going to know enough to correct you.
>>322333329
My wife already did that.;_;
>>322333507
Are you saying those games didn't function? They functioned well, and anyways the same could be said of NES games that they were still unrefined and that 2D games didn't get all their edges smoothed out until the 16-bit era.
>>322333557
I know my shit. You can dispute several points such as Metroid just being maze of gayness and the MSX playing a similar role, but the overall idea stands.
>>322330225
You goddamn right
>>322333565
>Want to sit down and clean your hobby hardware
>It's already cleaned.
>Goes out in the garage to polish your project car instead
>It's already clean.
>>322331539
>Copy Dragon Quest
What about Ultima and Wizardry? Both inspired Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy.
SNES sound system is shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTQIiIKummw
>>322333768
How do you feel that there are people that can't handle the bwang?
>>322333565
Is this a good thing or a bad thing?
I'm aware that it can be a bad thing.
>dad was fixing a monitor
>had parts laid all across his workbench
>anyone who has dealt with electronics or machinery would know that specific parts go in specific places
>mom decides to be a good wife and do some cleaning up around the house
>dumps all of my dad's monitor parts into a box and tidies up his desk
>sheeeeeeeeeeeit
>dad is understandably mad
>mom is pissed at him for not appreciating the effort she goes through
Fuck this shit.
>>322333768
>>322333820
I only started one fistfight in my life, and it was a snesfag who said his favorite track was the final boss from Yoshi's Island, which is just a low-rent genesis knock-off. This immediately after complaining about the bwang.
>>322330392
>Th worst are the hipsters who pretend like the NES was the best console ever.
>anyone who likes anything older than my childhood is a hipster
I like the snes more as well, but claiming anyone who likes the nes more is a hipster is just retardation.
>>322333654
Yes, they did not function as intended. Adventure was practically unplayable without outside support in the form of a manual, which renders the immersion (RPGs) and puzzle-solving (adventure) moot.
Pitfall lacked the basic structure necessary to establish platforming, namely that you cannot change elevation. A straight line is not a platfomer, it's a walker. The obstacles were limited in number, usually only requiring timing and the press of a button while the likes of Mario used building blocks to craft all sorts of challenges that required both thinking and finger dexterity, the Lost Levels being the pinnacle of this.
>>322333768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qREnzDZH2-E
>>322333820
What is the bwang again?
>>322333719
>>322333984
Shecleaned the house
>>322334103
remixes?
this thing is literally undefeatable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnLAC5AJPuM
>>322330113
>all those Japan-only games
Thank fuck for fan translations.
>>322333768
The SNES had to compete against the Mega Drive's 10-year outdated soundchip, fewer audio channels, smeller storage capacity, worse playback and inferior output system by also making better music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbXVNKtmWnc
>>322334195
I didn't want to post it because I wanted to see someone else with good taste post it.
Beats both the consoles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6r5iWfbjlI
>>322334281
>Final Fagtasy
>Ever on the level of composition as thunderforce
no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObJVuRTIIS4
>>322334078
>Adventure was practically unplayable without outside support in the form of a manual, which renders the immersion (RPGs) and puzzle-solving (adventure) moot.
And a lot of people have problems with Zelda without the map and manual included with the game, and it is often recommended to look up the map when you don't have it because it was included for a reason.
>Pitfall lacked the basic structure necessary to establish platforming, namely that you cannot change elevation.
The basic structure for platforming is jumping and timing your jumps. Elevation has nothing to do with it. While elevation makes platforming more interesting it doesn't mean the lack of elevation doesn't mean it isn't a complete platforming with timing on getting on vines, when to jump on alligator heads, or to leap over scorpions.
It would be like saying anything before Doom wasn't a basic structured FPS due to them not having elevation changes and irregular rooms. What you are looking at is level design, not core mechanics.
>>322334413
Shit music. Even the SNES had better music in the same genre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZirGXaNzYU0
>>322334561
>SNES "metal" music sounds like horn music
at least genesis made it sound like a synthetic guitar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzJrKcTxwvE
>>322334078
Please explain why each of these games are bad.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL16FE8EEB8FF411F7
>>322334413
It is all great. Love a lot of Genesis music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnZxvr2lLdo
>>322334474
Though by that logic, Donkey Kong was a typical platformer. Hell, any 2600 game that had you jump over something was a platformer. And probably a shooter too.
Jut because something carries traits of a genre doesn't necessarily make it part of that genre. Pitfall when judged next to even the first SMB would not be considered part of the platforming genre for above mentioned reasons.
>>322334698
>Genesis "anything" except horrible grating noises sounding even remotely passable
There are more drum samples in this one song than the entire genesis library.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQRMjAg2jN0
>>322334715
I barely played a tenth of them. Shit was expensive and barely qualify as video games IMO
>>322334925
Evey drum sound is muffled.
Sega is crisp
SNES shouldn't try to mimic orchestral sounds, it all sounds bad.
>>322334925
>Drum samples make a song better because it has low quality snes samples
lol ok
>>322334996
See, I'm gonna ask you to stop trying to bait me, because sir, it simply will not work.
Donkey Kong. Explain why it's bad. It even came out for your precious NES.
>>322334806
Pitfall! was completely centered around platforming with a defined start and an ending. All you could do was move and jump.
If Pitfall! isn't a platformer, then what is it?
The Mega Drive and PC Engine were better. Much better.
>>322335152
If Asteroids wasn't a Space Sim, then what is?
>>322335131
It's a timewaster designed for 5 minutes brainless gameplay of jumping over the same barrel, jumping over the same gap and avoiding the same fire every time. To compare it to the likes of SMB is laughable.
>>322335414
If it was so brainless than why did so many people have trouble getting the Rare coin in Donkey Kong 64 when they just had to beat a few levels of the original Donkey Kong?
>>322335262
Why can't it be with its momentum based game mechanics they were trying to simulate guiding a craft in space? Doesn't mean it can't be a space sim shooter as well like other sci-fi space sim shooters we do have.
>>322335508
Because it's hard?
>>322335571
This line of thinking leading down to the notion that the first game ever made was the Elevator Panel because you press buttons, and every game has been ripping it off ever since.
The common denominator became pronounced in the NES games, and every game since has been the NES game with a coat of paint and more content.
>>322335414
What about the countless shitty arcade ports for the NES? Surely you can't defend the objectively inferior versions over their coin-op counterparts?
>>322335756
I thought that was your job? Porting games runs opposite to the reason I love the NES, unbridled creativity and innovation.
Some games were arguably better though, like Gradius 2.
>>322333768
The PSG at 0:49.
Really nice touch.
>>322335850
Why do you think nes developers were trying to ape the arcade experience if arcade games weren't superior? Were they just out of ideas?
