So, what was /v/'s general consensus on this game again?
Pretty fun, definitely the best Arpg out currently
>>322293076
Skill grid is convoluted bullshit in an attempt to be "complex".
>>322293335
explain, I am currently downloading it and want to know what im in for
>>322293335
>Commenting on game you haven't played
Complete filth. There have been only two good video games since the dawn of time.
My Scion died last night at 76, fucking blood worm shit
>>322293335
"I'm dumb"
>>322293335
>Is too stupid to understand skill grid
>Didn't enjoy pre-planning some of the fun shit you can build
>Calls it bullshit
>>322293335
>skill grid is basic as fuck
>still get faggots who think that shit is "complex"
Pretty good.
I played through the first difficulty then halfway through the second before I played something else I think tw3 came out or something.
Really liked how you could have a million different summons though took this SS awhile back to show my friend who loved necros in D2 and was royally pissed about D3
>>322293335
This isn't wrong. The skills you need for every class is the same and eventually it all feels homogenized. You spend hours trying to make your build then realize how boring it is to play.
>>322293335
>this anon thinks FF X leveling system is convoluted bullshit
>>322293076
A pretty shit Diablo clone. It if wasn't F2P, nobody would have even touched it.
It's about as complex as Diablo 3 once you realize that the skill tree is nothing but small stat bonuses spread out to make it look complex.
At least with Diablo 3, you have a much more polished experience overall with mildly entertaining combat.
PoE is basically a game made by brazilians, for brazilians.
/v/ doesnt like any video games. You can make a thread like this for literally any good video game and get the same negative responses.
I've been playing PoE a lot lately and I like it. Its a relaxing time waster and I usually listen to podcasts and audiobooks while I play.
>>322293969
>Brazilians
Nigga what
It's New Zealand developed
>>322294148
>wahhh /v/ doesn't like my shit game they just think all games are shit
Teenager detected
>loaded in
>i'm fighting zombies
>uninstall
zombies are fucking boring shit enemies in every genre of game holy shit stop with this fucking bullshit - especially rpgs
>>322293076
Fun for a while but it gets repetitive at higher levels
It is a great game. I've been playing it on and off for a couple years now. I tend to play one league then skip the next. A league started mid-December so you're reasonably early on, OP.
Just remember to take Life nodes.
/poeg/ here.
The game is wasted potential all around. The balancing team is retarded and the servers are made of dogshit.
Shitcrows ruined the game and only jews bother playing more than a week per season.
>>322294606
no im /poeg/
games gud
>>322294587
>>322294606
what the fuck are seasons in this context
>>322294879
They release temporary leagues to act as a ladder/guinea pigs for their latest content.
The game would be so much better if they just removed ALL the health nodes form the skill tree and balanced the game accordingly. Having your build be 70% health/ES just to progress is dumb as fuck.
I found it boring as shit to be honest.
Probably one of the least fun ARPGs I've played.
>>322293076
what d3 should have been, except split server side. I mean that it should have an offline singleplayer and you can't take those characters online.
And servers should have been lockstep from the start.
Fun game until you discover the glaring issues, like
>shit performance
>shit trade system
>lack of QOS improvements
>endgame content locked behind a huge grind wall
>99% of skill gems are useless and not endgame viable, both SC and HC
When I quit I sold all my stuff in the black market and got more money than I've spent, so...
>>322294879
there's seasonal leagues that last 3-4 months, each one gets new mechanics added to the game
when the seasons are done, those characters/items get put into Standard league, which is permanent
most people prefer to play on the seasonal leagues because it gives a fresh economy and xp ladder
>>322295732
>shit trade system
>endgame content locked behind a huge grind wall
these 2 are true, the others aren't
almost all the gems are viable, unless your definition of "viable" is "the absolute best" in which case there's always going to be only a few.
>>322295732
This is the most shitcore thing i've read all year
>>322293335
pretty much this. Illusion of choice is bad
The general consensus is that /v/ is full of faggots and you should play Grim Dawn or at the very least D3 instead
>>322296694
>Playing AltF4core
Why the fuck do people say this game has build diversity when all of them boil down to "6-link a skill, spam it all the time, oh and don't forget your 4-link CWDT"? The homogeneity is astounding but no one seems to care.
As someone who's played the game for 1600 hours any thread on /v/ is about this game is always full of people who probably haven't even gotten to maps. Here's the real deal.
>Best ARPG available by a LARGE margin
>Bro tier developer
>F2P with no P2W
>If you play standard you're a mouthbreathing mongoloid
>>322297376
>stash space doesn't give you an advantage
>>322297376
>Bro tier developer
Actively looks for anything remotely fun and nerfs it to the ground. And let us not forget Chris "it's probably your ISP" Wilson
>F2P with no P2W
Stash space is a big deal
>If you play standard you're a mouthbreathing mongoloid
Correct
>Best ARPG available by a LARGE margin
What isMedianXL
>>322297706
>>322297891
I've been top 15 in 2 HC leagues and haven't spent a dime on the game for stash tabs. They give you plenty of space. The only reason you would need to buy more is if you were incredibly autistic about making sure you vendor for recipes which is only ~0.2% of the playerbase.
>>322297891
Look GGG aren't saints but compared to other devs they are atleast open and make great free content regularly. Sorry about your OP build getting nerfed tho.
is there still desyncing problems after all this time or did they fix it?
>>322293076
Freaking love it, playing it currently, and hyped for the expansion./poeg/ is garbage tho
>>322293431
>Whoa this grid is so complex!
>Why
>Because I'm playing an archer and I'm putting points into dex!
>Why is that complex
>BECAUSE ITS SHAPED LIKE A SPHERE GRID
>>322298153
Yeah they got rid of it with the last expac. Completely gone now.
>>322298153
Yes but the servers shit themselves and cause 2k ping spikes once every minute or so
Fucking horrible game.
>Too zoomed into your character
>No floating damage text TOP KEK
>Terrible looking muddy mess, bland to look at. Grim Dawn did the 2edgy art style well, this doesn't, at all.
>Skill gems are terrible
>The grid system isn't nearly as complex as poe shills would have you believe
>Lack of stash space unless you give money
Fucking horrible game, literally any other arpg is better. Diablo 3, Titans Quest, Grim Dawn, Torchlight 2.
>>322293076
It's okay. I feel a lot blends into the environment and the talent system is basically the FFX sphere grid.
I prefer Diablo 3 but I do once in a while play PoE since I have a friend who also plays it once in a while.
>tfw care more about the lore than the gameplay at this point
>>322298705
>damage text
are you fucking serious
who the hell would want their screen PLASTERED with this shit when you attack 5 times a second and hit 20 mobs with one spell?
This seems like a good place to post this, I'm about to play Diablo 2 for the first time. Which class should I roll?
>>322299805
Necro and go for bone spells.
>>322299774
>Who would want to see how much damage they are doing
Most people. There is a reason why 90% of arpgs have floating damage numbers you little fedora tipper.
>>322299774
Should be an option.
/poeg/ here pic related is our most loved pasta
we have a shitty dev team with zeaots who believe they can do no wrong.
a horrible arbitrary progression system that helps no one with 0.0001% having access to the final endgame content
a skill tree that REALLY isn't as complex as it seems
a skill system that is paved with false choices
gameplay revolves around holding 1 button
see you in /poeg/!
also most of the skills are gutter trash, this one isn't even an exaggeration ,if you've played the game there's like 3 good skills in the entire meta and everything is just horribly underpowered/weak/shitty or unviable due to mechanical input
>>322299805
Necro or Paladin
I bought Grim Dawn, soooooo...
Even in Early Access state, the game is more fun than PoE.
What do you think, senpai?
>>322298142
>I've been top 15 in 2 HC leagues and haven't spent a dime on the game for stash tabs. They give you plenty of space
can you stop lying for the sake of trying to look cool on /v/?
jesus christ you're such a loser.
>>322298705
>Too zoomed into your character
Subjective but i agree on this, needs zooming out a bit
>No floating damage text TOP KEK
Useless clutter
>Terrible looking muddy mess, bland to look at. Grim Dawn did the 2edgy art style well, this doesn't, at all.
Subjective, i think the game looks completely fine.
>Skill gems are terrible
Subjective but i agree most of them are
>The grid system isn't nearly as complex as poe shills would have you believe
This is true.
>Lack of stash space unless you give money
This is also true however character muling is a thing if you dont feel like paying 5 quid or however much it is.,
>>322300691
>Trying to look cool
>On an anonymous imageboard
anon....
>>322300674
>Rat's nest
>Maligaro's virtuosity
shitcrow/10
>>322300479
>wanting to represent the shitheap that is /poeg/
complete shitheap of a general
>>322300674
>atziris flask to boost DPS
>blood magic gem when duelist nodes exist
>sub 5k hp using belly of the BiS
>shitty coral rings instead of Diamonds
>maligaros virtuosity
>rats nest
>not even using an ambusher
youre fucking shit kid.
>>322300897
Spreading a just unbiased opinion is better than spreading garbo that is heavily biased.
And even with my opinions you still have to take the fact that I like PoE.
But there are glaring flaws once you get into the game that you can't ever unsee.
>>322300674
Pretty mediocre honestly.
Seen Bladefall and Cyclone tooltip warriors anywhere between 66-120k.
Even my Oro Flicker has upwards of 45k, and that build plays itself.
>>322300479
I actually agree with everything you said.
Not sure what people think about fire totem, but I find that build fun as fuck as either Witch or Scion.
>>322301060
Do you have the Sheevsting one?
>>322301235
I don't remember/recall that one. I made these images andposted them on the /r/poe subreddit for the karma
>>322301060
I realize there are some ridiculous things in the game and the dev team is incompetent as fuck sometimes (1.3 FUCKING PVP PATCH) but the general itself is just a slew of shitposting constantly
>>322293335
Mostly agree. It's very, very carefully set up in way such that, combined with the game mechanics, there aren't really very many viable builds.
I feel like the older versions of the tree allowed greater build variability.
>>322301689
thats fucking nothing
Talisman is kind of boring.
Waiting for expansion.
>>322299774
So you get clear confirmation the effects are working and know if anything isnt working as intended
>>322293076
it's shit. skill system only exists to trick new players into gimping their character. also, it has been confirmed that devs sell gear to p2w sites and take a cut of the profit. build variety is also based on gear and gear drop rates are ridiculously bad since there's so much gear variety. you will still get level 2 fucking uniques in level 70 zone. i guess it's worth a play through since it's free, but don't give these kiwi retards your money.
>>322293076
Its a game revolves spamming one skill over and over again and MAYBE occassional use a secondary/movement skill
>>322302280
Just like every other ARPG. Get fucked.
>>322302407
>having autism
>>322302280
Why would you use anything but your most powerful/developed ability?
>>322302060
>also, it has been confirmed
>>322293076
It's okay I guess once you start getting unique items then build a new character around it but it all seems pretty pointless.
>>322302407
I have 1000 hours in PoE and 120 hours in D3.
D3 does not use 1 skill for hours on hours on end, every high level build on the ladder uses Multiple skills equally including SC monk thats topping leaderboards.
>>322297891
>What is MedianXL
complete shit
>>322302747
no, really what the fuck is medianXL
>>322302280
So just like Diablo 3 then
Barb: hold whirlwind or mash hammer of the ancients
DH: hold multishot
this is cherrypicking but so are you
>>322302867
It's a mod for d2
>>322302867
It's a mod for Diablo 2. I'm not sure if it's total conversion but it's pretty close.
>>322302867
fan mod expanding on diablo 2 with new content and mechanics
>>322293076
let me guess a new update hit and they added some shit no one will play, because the developers will never fix the lag issues.
I'll think about installing it again and realize it's not worth the hassle and I'd only play it for a week anyway. Then I'll go back to staring at google until eventually masturbating to wood elf porn and go to sleep?
I'll pass thanks though OP.
>>322302407
Hey I am having to use up to 5 in Grim Dawn.
But I am still havingfunthough.
>>322302652
go into the /vg/ sub reddit and ask them about it. someone has the caps saved. i don't. i really don't care what you believe either. the game will be dead within the next two years and the economy is in shambles.
>SO wanted to play it with me
>they've played arpgs for years and i havent played them since d2 10 years ago
>i get lost easily and fuck up
>they get stressed out over it
>end up playing Casual 3 instead
>end up enjoying it betterPoE is the better game technically by miles though
>>322302867
It's D2 except every class get a massive AOE attack to spam and every bit of gear needs a hundred hours of tedious farming to get the bits to enhance it and then you can finally go destroy fuck knows what palette swapped Diablo1 enemies
Get on my fucking level you goddamn plebs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odbc5I_XF-s
>>322303645
>>SO
fuck off queermo
Soon grim dawn will be patched to be content complete and I won't have to touch PoE ever again
>>322303839
>copying builds
>dried lake
>shitty synth EDM
>takes 2-3 shots to kill mobs in a sub 70 zone
senpai...
>>322293076
Better than Deeblo Three on release. I'd put them at about equal quality now, though. PoE is deeper, deblow more accessible.
>>322303695
Almost. It's mostly BG1 sprites that are used and its those fucking charms that take hundreds of hours to get.
>>322303957
Lol more like Grim YAWN amirite?!?!
>>322293335
He's right.
Good game completely ruined by the worst skill tree in the history of videogames.
>>322303839
generic as anything
>>322293335
Big != Complex
Shit is actually pretty easy to "get".
I bet people that find the game boring are people that google search for "best builds". I've played the game a while, have over 15 characters and not one of them have used the same build, stop going for cookie cutter bullshit and you might enjoy yourself.
>You'll be told you can do anything but in reality you can't do anything: the game
I'm glad Grim Dawn is now a full release.
Apologies for the stuttering and FPS drops, this is what you get for playing CoC.
I chose the music because I liked Undertale. :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv4naYCZ2NU
Me breezing through a tier 80 map - I suggest you lower the sound a bit.
>>322304049
Explain why you think the skill tree fails, and what you think it's purpose is, because you're clearly misunderstanding the point.
>>322304171
Same anon, my spellbreaker is the most fun I've had in an arpg since D2 flesh golem retardation
>>322304169
Yeah but chances are all your builds can't do a single t12+ map.
>>322303957
That happened last month just before Christmas. The final boss is bullshit, but that should be rectified in the final bug and balance update come Feb.
>>322294472
Haha, jokes on you I love zombies.
a shit version of diablo 3 for retards who cant torrent
>>322304357
Literally who gives a shit?
>>322304392
Grim Dawn looks gud, man
>friend and I play for a few hours
>he quits and I ask why
>he says "a game where you grind skeletons to kill more skeletons is not for me man"
Was he right? What game should he and I play together?
>>322293076
better than any modern ARPG but not as good as Diablo 1 or 2
>>322304357
I can do t12 maps "safely" and in a timely manner, 13+ start getting difficult but I play mostly self-found gear. The game would be shit boring if I copied whatever fotm build was going on.
>>322304463
ayy lmao nice bait
>>322304171
I like Grim Dawn as a base game, but holy fuck is it badly structured.
>You need to grind to craft items
>You cannot grind in any effective way since enemies don't respawn and you have to reload the map to clear areas over, but that means actually making the run back there.
>Can't do the "endgame" dungeons because you need to grind for Skeleton keys.
They should have thought this through more.
>>322304171
I think I've sunk a good 50+ hours into GD since the update. Just found the blueprint for my first Mythic Relic today. Something for the Nightblade that permanent summons some demigod of the hunt as a minion.
This game is too fun and I am only about 2/3rds of the way through Elite.
>>322304518
>Literally who gives a shit?
People who enjoy playing the real game? Any person who can say they have truly played PoE knows that levels 1-80 and tier 1-8 maps are fucking babby mode. It's just unfortunate that GGG is retarded and won't change drop rates.
>>322304253
>Scrubcore
>Cyclone
>>322304527
>Was he right?
...what?
>>322304313
Been playing the hell out of it, it is fun, but I did enjoy TQ as well. For some reason though I feel like it isn't as slow in the beginning.
Rolling DW Pistol Sorc, but with shared stash I think I will play Shaman + ??? and Soldier + Nighthawk next.
>>322304253
>blue seraph
>no blue cyclone
Missed opportunity desu
Jelly of headhunter though. Is that as good for coc as it would be for attacks? Seems like it wouldnt get much out of the offensive auras/mods you pick up
>>322304253
Looks like D3 WW barb.
>>322304653
That's not even cyclone wtf are you smokin nigga.
>>322304674
shouldn't need repeating but can PoE be boiled down to "killing skeletons to acquire stuff to kill more skeletons"?
he's smarter than me so he's probably right.
>>322304518
It is good once you get into it. Act 1 is slow as fuck and pretty much a tutorial. But Act 2 onwards is golden. I can't wait for the expansion they apparently want to do. Especially if they do make a proper gunslinger class.
>>322304763
>but can PoE be boiled down to "killing skeletons to acquire stuff to kill more skeletons"?
As can literally every video game ever, yes.
>>322293572
Maybe you should buy a Toyota instead.
>>322304729
No build can use all of Headhunters Mods. I lose out on added projectiles (useless for bossing) but I get stuff like Critical Hits deal More Damage mods which is absolutely nuts.
In my opinion HH is like mandatory for coc with cyclone due to abysmal movement speed, speed aura/quickness/frenzy charges make you move so much faster. Helps that you get ALL mods.
>>322304730
BK Barb uses Whirlwinds though with IP spam... IK barb is complete shit tier.
>>322304579
>Can't do the "endgame" dungeons because you need to grind for Skeleton keys.
Have you not gotten the blueprint yet? Or gone to the undead Blacksmith in the Necropolis?
I do agree about some of the grinding though. It would be nice if you could respawn the enemies whilst ingame instead of having to go back to the main menu and reload.
>>322304763
you can 'boil down' pretty much any fucking game to sound boring as shit you stupid mouth breather
"you shoot things and then shoot things" is every fucking FPS ever for example
>>322293076
fun until endgame
>>322304732
>"I'm only using it to proc my m-main skills!"
>"It's not like I do nothing but spin around in maps, baka!"
>>322305015
should i convince him or should i respect his opinion and leave him alone???
>>322304678
Hmm I wanna play demolitionist something else, but can't decide. Any input? Would go dual pistols too. How is that dual pistol sorcerer? Occultist appeals to me because I like poison and dots but it looks odd and I'm not a big pet guy unless it's done right.
>>322293076
Skill grid means that anyone with half a brain is going to search up popular skill builds and copy it because some loser already did the math for you.
Gameplay consists you spamming one, maybe two buttons over the entire duration of the game.
It's alright for a while but I don't really get the appeal of it.
>>322304987
>Have you not gotten the blueprint yet?
Of course I have it. Doesn't mean you don't still have to grind for fucking Ectoplasm to make them, which there's no efficient way to do.
If you're going to make the player grind, you need to make it something they can actually efficiently do, and Grim Dawn didn't get that right.
>>322305015
except there's no skill required in arpgs (autistic role playing games) and you play against npcs. there's a thrill playing against other players and because fps is generally skill based your limit isn't restricted by fucking gear and terrible drop rates. i bet you're a spic
>>322305161
>Skill grid means that anyone with half a brain is going to search up popular skill builds and copy it because some loser already did the math for you.
Yes, until you learn the ins and outs of the game and start experimenting with your own builds.
>Gameplay consists you spamming one, maybe two buttons over the entire duration of the game.
Welcome to video games.
>It's alright for a while but I don't really get the appeal of it.
Time for another game of LoL?
>>322305224
That is a fair point about the ectoplasm. There really should be some NPC that sells those sorts of mats at an increased cost. Or some sort of alchemist that can make those mats in exchange for other mats.
Besides that GD is damn near perfect in my eyes. My only complaint being the lack of hirelings.
>>322305439
The thing is, it's a game about grinding for better gear. All ARPGs are. PoE gets it right by making maps easy to reset, easy to increase modifiers and drops in, and making the math to figure out what you need to do easy.
Grim Dawn forgot that. It's got a cool story, cool locations, and great expansions on Titan Quest's concepts, it just missed a few details.
>>322293335
Even though I wasted 3 years playing PoE I have to agree with you. That was there original plan, to make the game as hardcore as possible focusing everything on "muh mechanics" and forgetting every other aspect that make ARPGs good
>>322305419
>Yes, until you learn the ins and outs of the game and start experimenting with your own builds.
very few people learn the fucking ins and outs and make their own builds. the game is just fotm bullshit with everyone playing builds some autist figured out to be mathematically the best. then the game gets balanced around these broken builds so if you're not at least basing your build off them your character is trash
>>322293335
I'm inclined to agree, but for the simple reason that the skill tree isn't organized in an optimal way. The overabundance of stat nodes and kooky curvatures to keep it circular make it look a lot more confusing and complex than it really is.
As far as ACTUAL complexity, the skill tree could use a lot more. It's actually really basic and dead-easy to make a build that isn't retarded by just moving to notables that look good for your skill of choice.
>>322305845
Well I am hoping they do some stuff to rectify that in the expansion. Given what the premise should be, the idea of random maps and those modifers would work well. Fingers crossed.
>>322305845
I think you exaggerate maps in poe. Just because you roll a 150 quant mob with 30'packsize doesn't mean jack. One thing the GGG Devi don't get is that players WANT items and ore maps, instead we get tier 3s dropping in t10 maps with no notable loot besides chromed. Games fucking shit at drops.
>>322306083
>very few people learn the fucking ins and outs and make their own builds
Very, very few people ever own more than 1 Exalted orb. Very, very few of those will ever buy a mirrored item. What's your point? Most people in any game only ever play casually.
>>322306250
I know it doesn't mean anything, you can run a ridiculous MF build and get nothing. Hell, you most likely won't get anything. That's called grinding. The point is, it's grinding that's easy to do. It's accessible, because that's the point of the game.
>>322306250
So you want good items raining down in every map you play? They already increased the drop rate of T1 uniques enough, it's pretty bad that mjollnirs are 1EX, I prefer items actually being rare like in pre 2.0. If I wanted stuff to drop just for the sake of stuff dropping I would play Diablo 3.
>>322306428
I get what you're saying but the thing is we shouldn't be grinding for content. Gating content behind rng and not player builds is stupid, this is one thing d3 gets right with grift gating through clear speeds. Poe just gates via rng, nothing rewarding about that. I want to grind for gear, not content
>>322306574
See
>>322306623
I want maps, not gear.
>>322306623
>but the thing is we shouldn't be grinding for content.
>Gating content behind rng and not player builds is stupid
Gating content behind builds just leads to cookie-cutter webbuild stagnation.
>>322306428
>What's your point?
i guess my point is enjoy your dead game that's hemorrhaging players
>>322306940
poe already has that
>>322300674
>tries to post an image to impress poe players
>none of them are impressed, others don't care
BTFO LMAO
>>322306993
Thanks, I will.
>>322306940
which is actually the same shit that happens now you fucking idiot except you have to grind 500+ hours to get your unique or sit there for 10 hours playing the market game with spics who don't barter and are always looking to rip you off
>>322304013
been years since i played it but i remember it being the game equivalent of the mopeds indians use as bulk freighter/family transport
>>322304579
Grim Dawn is shit because it has no server side characters. It's 2015, nobody wants to invest hours farming the perfect item when they can just cheat it in
>>322305131
I'm using Arcanist, but you really only use it for the buff it has. The goes from "cool" to "crazy" when you get its next trait in line, which has a chance to add random elemental DoT damage. So that may be up your alley. It is a fire heavy build because of all the +burn/+fire damage floating around that adds electrical later. The AoE Freeze and the Damage reduction shields are good along the way within the tree. Doubt I'll get anything else or Arcanist, but want thermite mine and mortars from Demo to help out at point blank ranges.
Be forewarned, you will not have DW until 25. Before then 2H rifle is not bad if you pick up the arcane missile spell from the start of the Arcanist tree. You can weave a spell cast between shots to make up for how slow they shoot, just set it to right click. Or go gun/shield for a bit of extra protection.
Not sure about the rest, may need to look around and just see what the builds have.
>>322307313
>nobody wants to invest hours farming the perfect item when they can just cheat it in
Are there actually console commands or anything for Grim Dawn? I'm not aware of any.
>>322293076
servers went to the shiter after desyncing patch
>>322298424
like this anon here further explain
no interested in POE anymore to be honest famiglia
>>322305331
>i bet you're a spic
how did you know
>>322293076
>Hey guys we made this skill that can hit an enemy multiple times, what damage effectiveness should it have?
>IDK 120% LOL
GGG keeps fucking making new skills/items/passives/rebalanced skills that are ridiculously overpowered and force everyone to use them for maximum efficiency builds. At the same time they usually gut the skill that was overpowered before and make it worthless, so there's already one less viable option in the game to begin with.
Every league is just one or two memebuilds that dominate and you'd have to be retarded or extremely committed to mediocrity to not use them. 90% of the skills in the game are putrid shit and there's so much overlap between them that they're all shit in basically the same way.
>>322293076
After beating it solo and played a league for a few weeks with two buds I have to say it's pretty boring. Ultimately I just find the combat to be incredibly stiff and doesn't latch on to me. The rest of the game's systems just appear to be convoluted for sake of being convoluted.
>>322307496
Your characters are saved client side. There's a 0% chance there are no easily available trainers
>>322305845
>The thing is, it's a game about grinding for better gear.
gear isn't the be all end all in grim dawn it is in other games.
> PoE gets it right by making maps easy to reset
POE is literally nothing but grinding away in monster paddocks until you have enough shit to craft the shit you need.
>>322308246
>There's a 0% chance there are no easily available trainers
Yeah, ok, let's just download that shit.
It's a completely free game with gameplay and graphics that completely shits all over Diablow 3. I like it a lot.
>>322305131
>>322307446
I'm running a Dual pistol build with a Demo/Occultist. Curse of Frailty sets up decent crowd control for the Demo skills. Plus a few pets to pull aggro and heal you. So much fucking fire everywhere. And so many explosions that it would make Michael Bay erect.
Pretty good. It has a lot more mechanics to play around with than other ARPGs.
I really feel it could do with a lot more polish with the action. It feels even clunkier than Titan Quest was. On the plus side last time I tried it they'd finally fixed the awful fucking desynch.
