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NEW THREAD JACK

So I just sold false info about the Protectorate to that edgelord at the bar in Junktown, will this bite in the ass me later?
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>Spend hours troubleshooting and eventually reinstalling windows
>44 minutes remaining on my download
Gonna shank that AI so hard
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>>322275551
Actually, it's Jane.

>tfw can't wear groin guards

Check your privilege.
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>>322276248
At least you got stunned for only one turn if kicked in the cunt.

Which is pretty unrealistic, since whole female genitals are sensitive as fuck, while only male balls are as sensitive, getting kicked in the D alone is mostly fine.

Stupid memes.
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>tfw you bust into a room full of bandits and fire off all your shots, missing everyone

I love turn-based combat, but man when this shit happens.. fucking bullshit you know? I have 12 PER goddamnit.
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Is there any further context to this?
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>>322277554
Shit happens in FPS vidya too, you are just less likely to notice it.
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>>322275551
Anyone having this problem with very high percentage shots missing. I regularly miss three-four times in a row on 80+ chances to hit, and it's bad.
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This game like the original Fallout games?
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>choose black avatar
>your skin is white
dropped
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>>322277934
Does the game make you automatically move right before you shoot?

Most weapons have a move penalty on them, amd the game doesn't show that if you didn't move earlier.
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This whole core city arena made me remember Jade Empire and the arena thingy.
Ahh memories
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>>322275551
it'll bite you in the ass in the way that you didnt get to open his questline
abram and jacks quests are the best ones
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>>322278098
I'm using smg's they don't have those penalty.
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>>322278096
nigger
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>>322278726
No idea then.
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I have this game somehow, must of been from a bundle

How hard is it? I'm pretty pleb at RPG's. How big of a dickhead can I be?
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Disassemble yes or no?
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>>322278841
Inverse difficulty curve and then a spike again at the end

>>322278923
It's underrated. I've found it very useful
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>>322278819
>rpg
>have a bulky but stupid character in mind
>choose black avatar because it fit my character
>he is white in game
im white btw
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>>322278923
If you really like crafting then yes, it's useful for getting some rare non-quality mods backs like super string or rapid reloader, or to break things into parts and sell them, but otherwise the 90% quality hurts.

No idea why it does this though, it wouldn't break the game to have them stay as they were and would be very useful for things with more than one quality component.
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>At end of game
>Holy fuck these caverns are horrible
>Constant stacking debuff giving me up to -40% to all offensive and defensive skills
>Constantly re-spawning and regenerating enemies.
>Huge cave full of faggot sentient mushrooms that constantly respawn and spit spores at me
>Poison and shit everywhere
>No vendors anywhere
>Constant backtracking
>Jesus Christ this is terrible, but I have DETERMINATION
>Power through everything over the course of about fifteen hours
>Collect a bunch of mutagen tanks which should help on final boss fight
>Finally get to final boss
>Can't use mutagens properly because of a bug
>MFW
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How can I get Elwood's card without getting involved in a huge fight? I don't have an ounce of pickpocket
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>force user + telekinetic proxy + expose weakness + telekinetic punch
im pretty much unbeatable at single combat now
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>>322279326
wait till he walks through the corridor in the middle to the adjacent room - kill him there silently and nobody will be alarmed
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>tumblr and /v/eddit is now shilling more indie shit
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>>322279306
Whole Deep Caverns are fucking bullshit with constant backtracking and respawning enemies.

And that mutagen puzzle should just outright kill the final boss since the game give you very little info on how to slve it, and it was possible to skip every other fight up to that point.

Still, killed the final boss in one turn. The only thing I wasn't able to one shot, had to take 2.
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>>322278923
I haven't done much crafting but I'd say no. It drops quality by 10%, so as long as you can find components at least 90% of the quality of what you want to remake it's useless except to reuse rare mods. Are there unique mods in the game btw? You can always pick it up later if you think you need it.
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>TFW you use Locus of Control and Enrage on a room full of lunatics.
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>>322279449
>kill him there silently and nobody will be alarmed

I'm full Psi, Jack, how do I kill someone silently?
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>>322277867
There are hidden hints scattered across the game that heavily imply that the player character is actually an amnesiac Faceless who was found by an unknown doctor, gravely injured after a battle against humans. The doctor discovered your memory problem, and since he wanted your safety, he made a surgery to make you look like a human and gave you a new identity.
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>>322279550

I'm doing a knife and thought control build. I'm pretty sure I'm fucked if they don't unfuck how that stupid puzzle works. According to the dev it's supposed to be something about matching positives and negatives but no negatives are showing so you just have to fucking guess or something.

How did you solve it?
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>>322279670
Why are you lying Anon
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>>322275551
its like a 12 quest line that you've just dicked yourself out of. FYI.
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>Find Six in the West Wing
>Shake off his mind control because WILLPOWER
>He gets mad and stabs me to death
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>>322279758
Damn it anon, I just wanted to see his reaction
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>>322278096
It's the same if you choose a bald portrait, the model has hair. I'd accept this as a budget limitation if there weren't already bald models in the game.
Are the current player models the only ones with all the necessary animations or something?
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>>322279670
>>322279870
Sorry, I only just refreshed the page and read the responses going upwards
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>>322279719
>According to the dev it's supposed to be something about matching positives and negatives
You can read about it in one of the computers in the residental building after powering it up, and it's the only clue about the game.

>How did you solve it?
Common logic and luck.

I figured that since the mutagen container doesn't accept one of the mutagens and says they are prohibited, that shit has to be harmful or something. I think it was Exitus or something, fuck me if I remember, try it yourself. I had the 1st one already and used trial and error for like a few hours to make the other ones because I'm autistic.

Don't bother though, all it does is reduce the number of tentacles from 6 to 3. Big fucking wow, there could be a 1000 of them for all I care, I still killed Tchort in one turn without even touching those mutagen tanks.

What are they for though? Does destroying them stops his 200/turn regen or something? .
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>>322279626
psi is silent. silent meaning no gunshots or explosions.
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>>322279780
Different guy, should I do all the stuff for Abram? Will this stop me from joining the Protectorate later on? I heard joining Protectorate is fun.
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If I take the quest from Core Tech will I be able to take quests from JKK or Pretorian Security?
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>Depot A with my first decent build, a sneaky Crossbow trapper
>Make my way through the right entrance and underground, ghosting around with no difficulty
>Enter the circuit board area from behind and it's already obvious there's no sneaking around
>CALTROP. EVERYTHING.
>Set two bear traps in the two grids between the fence to cover every angle
>HENSHIN A GO GO BABY
>Snipe the Mutant fuck for half his health
>Kneeshot the nearest dog
>Two mutated dogs get stuck on my traps after walking ten grids of pointy poisoned steel
>Molotov next turn and Aimed Shot to the face of the only dog that didn't catch fire
>Mutant's already dead
>Watch three balls of flame helplessly dance around the Caltrops, fire and poison as their health dwindles rapidly
>One regular dog of the mutated immortal dude comes out and finishes off the last remaining mutated dog and dies thereafter due to my traps

Man after an hour of preparation for Depot A I can say it was worth every minute of the ten I spent there. Fucking 10/10 game.
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>>322280230
I tried killing him using punch and neural overload, but I think it still alerted the guards. Maybe it was because they saw the body or something. I ended up stealing it.
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>>322280228
Also, I think someone on the steam forums has it figured out. What I said might be wrong because my brain rejects the memory of that clusterfuck, but I'm pretty sure it was all about making those new mutagens out of those you find.
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>>322280410
kill him while he is walking in the corridor - nobody is there to see him except you. worked for me.
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>>322280349
I think each is an exclusive deal. Coretech and Protectorate should definitely be able to collaborate though.
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possible to play on mac somehow?
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>>322280376
What if I told you that you could skip the whole fight in the circuit board location by going the other way?

How do you feel?
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>>322275551
Undertale is a better game
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The amount of trial and error this game makes me go through is off the charts
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>>322280653
No. Maybe in the future.
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>alright got my first sniper shame I couldn't find any extra parts for it
>get to junktown
>has all the sniper optionals and a better sniper frame
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>>322275551
>woah what's this underrail thing, looks cyberpunky
>might b cool
>check steam page
>isometric

WIPE THIS MEME OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH
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>>322280702

I got a Mutated Claw drop and a 66 quality Mutated Dog Leather, so I can live with it.

Also I had to lighten my load because holy shit traps are heavy as fuck and I only have 3 strength.
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>>322280832
Get used to it.


I don't see a problem though, just buy that shit and make a new one.
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>>322280930

I dont wanna waste the value of my credits by transferring to coins
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>deep caverns

And I thought pre-nerfed Depot A was bad. Seriously, what the fuck is this bullshit?
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>>322280228

any tentacle reduction is helpful since I have to run up and stab the cunt to death.
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>>322280809
any games you'd recommend that are similar
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>>322281017
Are you in Junktown because of the main quest?

You shuld have 300 coins if that's the case.
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>>322280838
>isometric

It's oblique projection.
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>>322281081

What did they nerf about Depot A? The patch rolled just after I cleared the Muties in the first area and I never got to experience it as you did.
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>>322281165

I spent them making my last sniper ;_;
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>>322281157
You mean new ones, or classics?

If new ones then Age of Decadence is also an post-apo isometric cRPG, but it's roman post-apo and heavily focused on heavy roleplaying with lots of replayablity and very specialized builds.
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I'm so tired of my Psi build, everything fucks me up fast..

Thinking about rerolling again
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>>322281213
Less HP mutants
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>>322281081
Depot A is at least the "use all your options and feel good when you finally win" kind of hard.

While Deep Caverns is the "Look at all those enemies respawning/regenerating health faster than you can keep up, ain't that difficult boy, are you having fun yet? oh also backtrack to that location you were in an hour ago while all the enemies respawned and here, have no clues how to progress :^)" kind of "hard". Just tedious really.
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>>322281213
Mutants have less HP now.
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>get in motion
>pass out
>wake and turn into a crawler
>pass out again
>wake up in a smelly shack with a talking pig

should i do some exploring? i've been playing on classic this whole time so i haven't had much reason to start digging in shit piles for oddities.
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>>322281219
Tough luck.

You should earn some pretty quickly.
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Has anyone mapped the deep caverns yet? I keep reading theres an npc in there who can help you resist the debuff but I have no idea where he is.
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>tfw constantly reloading just to kill two psibeetles in the Mushroom Coves
I regret using my ammo on rathounds. Boy do they have a ton of health.
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>>322281157
undertale
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>>322281783
> I keep reading theres an npc in there who can help you resist the debuff but I have no idea where he is.
Finished them but didn't manage to find him.

Would also like to know.
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>>322281794
Tell me you're making sure their brains are open before you attack, at least.
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>>322281329
man that game looks great, but do you know of anything in that vein that can run on a mac? thanks btw
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>>322281543
I'm on PSI right now. Where are you right now?
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>>322281962
Not on mac so I never really gave any attention to that, sorry.

I heard Styg might port Underrail to Mac as an exercise, but it's not going to be soon.
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>>322279862
>>322281157
Shadowrun Dragonfall and Hong Kong run on OSX

Or you could just not be retarded and create a windows partition
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>>322281794
Make sure you run up to them, so they're either forced to retreat back a bit or bite you.
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Fuck i like this game but i now reached Core City and feel overwhelmed for some reason.

Usally when that happens i stop playing the game, now i cant force myself to play it again.

God damn it.
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>playing SJWrail
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>start a stealth sniper build
>using a pistol as a secondary weapon
>pistol is actually better most of the time despite 5 dex
Do pistols get over taken later in the game?
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>>322282184
Core City is a lot less complex than it looks. There's a level with ARENA and Merchants, and a semi-hostile area off to the side. A level with the corps, and the Tchortists. The docks, which has river access and a mission area. And the metro for the Upper underrail, which is a lot simpler than the lower.

Seriously - If you do everything before going to Core, its the 60% mark of the game.
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>>322282258
>pistol is actually better most of the time despite 5 dex
You are doing something wrong.

Snipers should one shot everything with Aimed Shot/Snipe the moment you pick one.
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>>322282179

>do this
>they step back one square and do two mind attacks like they would have if I was 10 squares away
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>>322282258
Make sure to let Focus settle in - Move'n'shoot penalty is big on snipers.
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>>322282184
I felt the same but somehow forced myself through it and no regrets.
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>>322280218
>refreshing the page
>not using the update button
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>>322281794
they have a lot of resistance until yjey open their brains for a psy attack, I avoid them for this reason

you either waste health or you waste ammo to kill them, either way they aren't worth killing since I'm not a psi user
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>>322282384
It one-shots when it hits, for some reason it misses a lot more than the pistol even with 95% chance to hit
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>>322282542
>not having the page auto update
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Does the Nimble feat raise your dodge/evasion past the 40% cap or whatever, or does it only go up to 40?
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>>322281948
I am, doesn't help any.
>>322282179
Being right on them doesn't matter, they just step back and use psionics. Luckily both of them decided to stand still in molotovs flames and die for 3-4 turns instead of moving or attacking.
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>>322282542
>not ticking auto
How do you even relax
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>>322282674
>40% cap
w-what cap?
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>>322282723
Supposedly, you can only drop their chances to 60%. I'm not sure I believe this.
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>>322282723
I thought I read somewhere that evasion and dodge only worked up to a certain cap, and that's why they're considered a bit bad.
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>>322282471

They can only get off one mind attack if you run up close to them though.
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>>322282581
>for some reason it misses a lot more than the pistol even with 95% chance to hit
If the game makes you automatically move before you shoot, you will lose most of your accuracy, especailly on snipers.

I'm doing a sniper/pistol as a backup run myself and you should only use the pistol once things get in your face, and have at least 70-80% to hit with a sniper if using bipod and a regular scope.
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>>322282179
burning them is a better idea for creatures since they panic

I use bear traps on burrowers and then burn them with a fire bolt to stop them from attacking
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>long drawn out battle with Protectorate soldiers
>perfectly calculate everything
>only one guy remains standing with 12 hp
>just enough psi for one last hit
>accidentally walk up to him instead of attacking

Not like this.
NOT LIKE THIS.
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>>322282984
Holy shit this.

This right here makes me wish for an undo button more than anything. The amount of times I've accidentally moved instead of attacked is just plain silly.
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>>322282803
>>322282829
this better not be true. or else i'll...i-i'll...i'll be upset!
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>>322282803
>>322282829

R-really? Fuck, I've been keeping my evasion and dodged maxed each level, and taking advantage of the nimble feat.
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I killed the Lost Vault trader and his guard because I didn't like their attitude and the stealth bro had some great gear.

Now I can't get into that Vault. The wiki says the key card is on table in the nearby room, but it's not. The footlocker gives me a weird error when I click it, despite having the key. Anyone solve this?
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>>322275551
This game looks like fucking ass. How could you people like this awful shit?
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>>322283127
All I wanted to do was return the love to her life with my cock!

>>322283185
because its fun and challenging
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>>322282581
sniper works better with traps, you want to prevent anything from getting near you

also deadly snares feat gives you guaranteed crits
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>>322283185
Good games don't have to look nice, anon.
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>>322283127
>tfw playing a female char and couldn't sleep with evelyn
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>>322275551
Did I fuck up a lot /v/ ?
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>>322283127
>>322283268
Why can't you ever just meet a girl who's DTF in these games? It's always some kind of bullshit trick.
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>>322283584
Art emulates life
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>>322283509
That Will ain't doing shit for you, should've gone into Int
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>>322282064
>>322281543

im in about the same place and ill be honest. PSI gets its shit kicked in HARD if you dont play super clever with grenades and such.
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>>322283509
Focus on strength for the rest of your development, and pick up the Sledgehammer perks. They add armor penalty to crit, and you can find a belt that makes Sledge's 5 AP cheaper.
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>>322283656
The hell are you talking about? Psi is wicked effective. Every branch has incredible strengths
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>>322283584

>>322283656
The only thing fucking my Psi shit up right now is coretech warehouse defense and thats more due to overwhelming odds, lack of mobility, and shitty allies.
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>>322283509

Also have persuade and intimidate, and only mechanics and tailoring.

But I think I should have went chemistry or electronics instead.

How much max persuade I need anyway.

Can I still do an assault rifle build?
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>>322283123
I understand that an undo button would be seriously abusable with with dice rolls, very wide damage ranges, and especially traps, but jesus christ this is beyond infuriating. Limit it to walking only, and disable it if you trigger a trap, or something.
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>>322283310
Stop giving him wrong advice, deadly snares works with crossbows only.

But traps are useful nevertheless, you got that right.
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Women, amiright?
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>>322277554

Not only Per is important, on thing I noticed is night vision helps a fucking lot.
Throw a flare or use night vision googles before a fight in dark places you will see a huge difference.
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>>322284026
Making hitboxes bigger would solve the issue.
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Before I get this game:
I liked Shadowrun Returns a lot, except for the combat which was boring not because it was turn based but because there were only basic attacks and REALLY BORING skills/spells.

Is the combat in Underrail better? Also: do you have meaningful dialogue choices? Decisions to make?
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>>322278096
>>322279140
>>322280832
So this game is so unoriginal that they copied junktown and white skinned blacks from Fallout to?

And people wonder why some people don't like indie trash?
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>>322283127
>>322283268
>>322283876
>>322284202
>tfw found her bunker first

Feels good.

I was pretty fucking scared when the 1dt thing I saw was a room full of blood and corpses, I was in steath the whole time I explored that place thinking dome kind of monster has to live there.
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>>322284487
Kindasorta. Theres a few faction choices to make, but no real substantive changes to the world. The speech checks are pretty sparse, but do significantly change the outcomes of quests.

Combat is pretty good, though. All this build discussion is because almost all the main concepts you can go for in the game are viable - Psi-monk weilding TK, sneaky crossbow or sninper bastard, wade in with grenades and pistols, go dumb sledgehammer, all of it.

And you'll be doing a hell of a lot more than just basic attacks. Every speciality has at least a few special moves, psi is basically spells, grenades / traps / caltrops are always useful, so on
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>>322284487
>Also: do you have meaningful dialogue choices?
Moment to moment? No.

>Decisions to make?
Yes

>Is the combat in Underrail better
I haven't played the former, but I like it. You've got utility and options for creativity in UR in both Psi powers and between traditional combat options and traps/explosives/nets/ect
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>>322284546
It's Junkyard actually.
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>>322284473
Or at the very least don't move it around for stunned enemies.
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>>322284749
Science wins again. Bitch had no fucking chance. Now where's my shit?
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>>322285137
She's had a nice place though. I'll put it to good use.
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>>322285526
Doesn't the corpse room creep you out a little?
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Jesus Christ, this house is a fucking money sink.

I must have had around 20k charons before I started fixing it up, and now all my money's gone. Better start selling some of that shit I've been hoarding.
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Just got the game, is the Red Pill a non-choice? Can I unlock my potential without the pill? Also, are combat types viable, right now I'm going for a sniper/psycher.
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>>322286014
>I must have had around 20k charons before I started fixing it up, and now all my money's gone.

So it's just like owning a house IRL.
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>>322286014
Awww. Still have an old save? Caus those charons are actually used by the 3k to make super high value crafting mats. Top tier metal, leather infusions, and ballistic plates.
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>>322286247
Isn't that high-quality steel for characters who use heavy armour though? I'm taking advantage of the nimble perk, so I can't really go over 15% armour penalty.
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>>322286014
It was added to be a money sink though.

But it sucks, it feels like all the shit just doesn't fit together and it' too huge for my liking.

SGS room for life, I just wish it had a toilet like some of the others, ruins my immersion.

Where's my fucking toilet Tanner, there is even a room with a toilet that no one lives in, why did you gave me the smaller toiletless one, I bet yours does have a toilet you hairy fuck.
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>>322286167
>Can I unlock my potential without the pill?
Nope. Want psi, you have to get redpilled.

>are combat types viable
Of course they are. Just don't go full retard with your build and you'll be fine.
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Are electric sledgehammers worth it? Seems like they suck up all the batteries, as you're recharging after every fight. And what's a good set of armor to get/craft by the time you get to rail crossing? Just did camp hathor, and wondering if there's a stronger set of armor that will leave you nigh-invulnerable
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>>322277934
I use throwing nets and tazer stun to increase hit chance to 95%. Smg is really inaccurate as fuck you need to get closer for better hits but it's still up to RNG. Sometimes I get to hit 4 times in a single burst at 40% but hit like 2 or zero times at 70+.

If you don't have high throwing/tazer and some fuckhead with high evasion dodges your throwing net, you can use a flashbang to incap and throw the net. Incap status increases hit chance for one hit, but if you net them it'd make it easier for all five bullets to hit.

Also if you don't have mechanics to make a gun with muzzlebrake and electronics for smart module to increase burst damage you might as well reroll now. Really salvaged my shitty 3 con 3 str build, smart damage bonus stacking with the goggles raises the burst damage through the roof with specs op reducing ap costs.
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>>322285670
The room won't be a room of sadness, but of the spirit of man.

Although a woman was their downfall it was a man who would avenge them and a man who would claim reclaim the roost, originally built for by a man.
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>>322286630
Nah son. SuperSteel is the best available metal - You can make gloves out of it, 16 AP and fucking sweet, and better still, get a Leather Infusion recepie that lets you make 130ish leathers with special effects - Like bonus crit chance rathound armors, or immobilization immune boots with another.

http://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Blueprint:_Infused_Leather

Supersteel is what the endgames all about, crafting wise
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>>322286684

There is a community toilet down the hall.
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>>322286684
Never opened the rest of the doors on that level, didja? Theres dorm showers and restrooms

>>322286748
Like all resources, you'll be fucking swimming in batteries by the time you're midway through the game. Go nuts.
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>>322287186
>>322287190
I want my own fucking toilet, It supposed to be my living space.

Fuck you Tanner, I know it's you samefagging, give me my own toilet.
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>>322287186
A special agent of SGS deserves his own bathroom.
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>>322287408
Be honest, anon. You just want to be able to never leave your room.
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>>322287472
Especially if there is a room with one that no one lives in.

Such a waste.
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>>322287530
Nah, I might ocassinally leave it to go down range.

Now if I would get a toilet and a range, I wouldn't leave it, indeed.
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>>322277554
Night vision goggles help a fuckload
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>>322283706
I am going for an assault rifle build.

Just hope 14 perception by the end is high enough.
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>>322287807
Fucking incredible
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>>322287807
TECHNOLOGY
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>>322288010
is going above 10 in a stat worth it?
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>>322287807
>Play Underrail
>it exists the laptop
>do it 3 more times
>mfw I finally get it
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>>322288230
DEX/AGI for initative, and DEX alone for AP reduction.

Honestly 10 PER is enough, the accuracy bonus is pretty neglible.
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>>322288230
Absolutely - Dex continues to reduce light weapon AP costs. Apparently, if you go full goose bozo on it, you can get unarmed down to 1, but you're more likely to wind up at 4 per swing, similar for light pistols or SMGs.

Str also produces bonuses over a threshold of raw damage percentage on top of the stats natural improvement, on top of carry capacity. I imagine the other stats have similar benefits going on, but bottom line, the game super rewards specilization.

Not that I give a fuck. After blowing like 40 hours on the pirate copy, I bought a legit one, and am now playing an all feats stat-maxed character. Curiously - Still not broken. All these special moves means theres only so much AP to go around. Definitely strong at whatever I do, but its still entirely possible to get my face rocked off if I dont handle a fight well.
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>>322288230
Yes most definitely, it clearly pumps up your related skill considerably.

For example final gun skill with 14 Perception is 250 and with 16 is 272, with only ten it stays at 205 or so.


Every point after 4 augments you related skill by 8.5%.
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>>322287472
Yeah? Have you done anything to deserve that bathroom? You think the old man has one down there? The guys in the barrack making sure you don't wake up with Lurkers chewing on your dick? Learn some humility.
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>>322288610
God, Gorsky is such an unashamed asshole, I love it. He literally hijacks the main quest to take out a rival gang from his youth, and just squats in their old hideout laughing his ass off for the rest of the game.
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>>322288582

Its possible to still get wrecked even with a super well defined build because the game has tons of other factors affecting the situation.

Its not like Fallout where you eventually get 95% per cent hit everytime.

Everything counts, enemy skill in dodging, darkness, weapon durability, etc etc.

The game is very well balanced.

Havent had so much fun since EYE and before that System Shock.
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>>322288434
Does 20 DEX let you shoot pistols for free?
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>>322288610
>Have you done anything to deserve that bathroom?
You dismissive motherfucker. That burrower nest you were too much of a pussy to search? Solo'd that shit. The little gang you gathered? I did all their dirt work. Your little joke about running Core City? I'm it's invictus.

Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you!
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>>322288604
Secondary consideration - You dont NEED more than 150ish in effective total skill for anything in the game. Lockpicks in the endgame section top out at about 130, I think, and even with supersteel and top tier items, you're only seeing 160~ish requirements for some crafting. I suspect theres a combat skill soft cap around there, but thats likely me talking out my ass.
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>Reach endgame
>Stealth, Thought Control, Knives, Evasion, and Dodge
>Can't do a fucking thing to Tchort

Did I fuck up /v/? Do I have to totally restart? I'm about to breakdown and cheatengine it. Not like this /v/. Not like this. Who do Evasion and Dodge such such fat cocks?
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>>322289007

The cap on something like lockpicking sure, but from most people are saying in combat every little bit counts.

If you want to become more than average at fighting.
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>>322288917
Havent tested a super light pistol yet on my cheat-max character. Lemme hop into the game and check that for you.
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>>322288904
"Another time."

That fucking kid.
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>tfw one hitting everything with my huge ass hammer
nuttin personnel
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>>322289151

*suck such fat cocks
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>Find a talking pig
>Most educated person in Core City.
>Literally twice as much dialogue as other npcs.
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>>322288610
>Yeah? Have you done anything to deserve that bathroom?
I did more in a few days than you did in years tough guy, you talk shit about getting the job done but I'm the one who literally restored your gang, you are even scared of burrowers you ninny.

>You think the old man has one down there?
I'm pretty fucking sure he does and you have one too, Vera probably has one as well, fuck you all.

>The guys in the barrack making sure you don't wake up with Lurkers chewing on your dick?
Ain't happening because I DESTROYED THEIR ENTIRE BASE while YOU were probably TAKING A SHIT in YOUR OWN TOILET

FUCK YOU ALL I'M MOVING TO THE ABANDONED ROOM, SEND YOUR MAILS THERE FROM NOW ON OR I WON'T READ SHIT
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>>322289007

What is the max persuasion skill check?
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>>322289151
Evasion and dodge are all about the feats.
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>>322288917
Looks like the AP floor is 4. I've got all the AP reduction feats and 20 dex on this guy, both unarmed and pistols bottom out at 4.
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>>322289565
Havent the foggiest - Its why I cited lockpicks and crafting, you can SEE the numbers on those.
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>>322284487
Underrail has one of the best spell systems of any recent rpgs in that sense that there's no useless spells, all of them unique, heavily affected by feats and have cool synergies. It's incomparable to shadowrun's lame magic system.
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>>322289536
where is he? related to a quest or a side thing on his own?
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I tried to get into this game >1 year ago and really struggled. Has it improved since then?
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>>322288917
Highest is 18 if you take 10 at start, 6 through all level ups and 2 from junkyard surprise.

Every point above 5 reduces the action pont cost by 1, so you end up with 13 reduction.

Enough to shoot 5mm pistol for 2 AP, or SMG for... -3?

SOMEONE TEST IT
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>>322289690

>TFW No Evasion buffing feats

I have the dodge one though. Doesn't do much good against the Hentai God.
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>>322289890
I'm going to suspect he's a Motion encounter.
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>>322289990
I just did. Floor is 4. >>322289730
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>>322290046
Nimble
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>>322290046
There's a feat that lets you dump your current Move points into 3x evasion for... Damn, cant remember how many turns it was, not 1 though
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Anyone tested the incendiary rounds?

How the hell am I going to get the 60 chemistry needed.
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>>322290046
Nimble gives you 15% to both dodge and evasion if your armor penalty is zero. Does it give you this increase only if your armor penalty is already zero or do you also get it if your armor penalty is zero after it's reduced by 15?
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>>322290438
Checks 'current' armor penalty, which you can see in Combat Stats.

>>322290395
Wheres the blueprint?
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>>322290249

I got Nimble. My Dodge and Evasion are both pushing 300 right now because I'm wearing Ninja Tabi. Doesn't matter. Still get hit too much when I'm getting tentacle raped.
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>>322290046
I'm sorry Anon, I killed him in 2 shots, one turn on my sniper.

Only thing I couldn't one shot tho.
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>>322290107
do i need to find different motion sources, because I did it twice from the dealer with the dog and it got the dokotor one twice .
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>>322290395
Not really worth it.

Acid and especially micro shrapnell are cool though.
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>>322290206
So 12 shots and one point shot, or 15 with rapid fire and point shot.

Not bad if you take a 9mm with rapid reloader.
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>>322290570
Energy shield really helps there.
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This game is bad.
Somebody explain how it is in any way fair or balanced that a simple gangsta in Core City is doing 101 damage (which is all of my health) in a single Neural Overload.

I am a level 11 character with effectively, 126 Thought Control, and my Neural Overload does 56 damage.

Oh and I know what you might be thinking if you're knowledgable on Neural Overload, you'd be thinking, what about the extra 10% damage per Int point above 5 of the one being attacked? Well my Int is only 6, so this guy should only be getting a mere 10% bonus against me.

This is not a case of "git gud", because there are 4 enemies here, 2 of which are Psi users, one throws a grenade that also one shots me, and the final one is the least threatening, but still does 90% of my health with a single aimed shot.

Now my character literally doesn't have the tools to deal with this encounter since 3 of the 4 enemies 1 shot me.
I can fear 1, I can stun one, and I can silence one of the mages but that's all of my mana so I have to use some AP to fix that problem, then I need to deal with the other one providing he doesn't kill me since I need him to miss twice.
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>>322290862
Dont forget hit and run tactics - Pistols / SMGs dont have move'n'shoot penalty.
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>>322290574

I saw your screenshot. I just have to quit playing these games trying to do fun things and start playing for the optimal burst damage build. This makes me sad. All these RPGs are coming out and although some of them allow multiple viable builds (Pillars of Eternity, Divinity: Original Sin) a lot of them force you down this one or two "good" builds route. Between my total frustration with this game as well as the shitfest that was Age of Decadence I'm kinda depressed.
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>>322290969

I have a pretty badass energy shield. Is it possible to somehow drop combat to recharge it during that fight?
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>>322290997


What is your Resolve?
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>>322291002
And acid bullets for additional 150-300 damge per turn, expertise for 375 at max level...

This sounds pretty fucking viable.
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>>322290997
Grenades - There's an incap one, and molotovs can fear enemies. Caltrops - You can drain their move points, and then AP, by doing a fade and making them chase. Not relying on NO for damage - That's an armor pierce move, not a big damage move.

You didnt try and get through the game without some kind of non psi skill, did you?
Basically, git gud.
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>>322291180
There are 2 rooms with doors, one really close to the ladder.

Go there, close the door, make sure there is no psi tchortling since they can open doors, stealth and wait until you can exit combat.

The problem is the 200/turn regen the boss has though.
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>>322291486

That goes away if you nuke the mutagen tanks though right?
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>>322290997
Sounds like a bug. I'm way further in the game than Core City and I have 10 int, and even so, Overload isn't doing half that damage to me from Psi Users.
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>>322291047
Honestly the mutagen puzzle should just outright kill it for build like yours.

All the fights, and I mean literally all were skipable up to this point. The final boss should be too, especially given how bullshit the puzzle is.
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>>322291227
Very high. I have 12 Will after all.

>>322291690
Every other Psi enemy has been a non issue. These ones are just a random group of simple gangstas and they're 1 shot killing me, so I don't know what the fuck is going on.

>>322291349
No, Grenades are not an option. I don't have any throwing skill. Grenades may work for people without throwing skill in the early game, but not in the mid game.

>git gud
Well at least 2 out of 3 of the replies were helpful and serious.
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>>322291648
No idea, I killed that thing in one turn.l withou bothering with them.

But it might be true. How are you going to destroy them with melee though?
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>>322291885

Nades? Hit them with my knife? Stealth over and put down TNT?
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>>322291878
Welp. Now you know that around 20 points in throwing will ensure you get them close enough in the future. Good luck with your next character!
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webums of the game and happy new year faggots
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>trying to sneak past, not one, not two, but three psi beetles
>almost made it past them
>and THEN
>a hopper bumps into me, knocking me out of stealth
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>>322292025
I thought you can't get that near them.

Sounds like a plan-stealth your way to a tank, plant tnt or whatever, activate shield and run to the room, recharge shield, repeat until all tanks are gone, kill the boss.

Should be even easier on the left side, the 2nd room in convinently placed there.
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>>322291878
You should make a post on the forum about that Overload damage. Perhaps the game is using your Will for the increased damage, instead of your Int.
There's no way it should be doing 100+ damage.

Are you sure it wasn't a critical?
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never relax around niggers

especially if their name is Balor

and especially if they carry a big fucking 2h sledge
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>>322287186
don't talk about your mom like that
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>>322292627

>MFW I used Enrage on him and watched him run around slaughtering all his friends.
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>>322292691
Aimed Shots Fired
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Well, I finished Abram's quests in Junkyard. Hope this isn't going to bite me in the ass later. I suppose my relationship with the Protectorate is now irrevocably ruined, but from what I've seen I'm fine with that. Although I wasn't in the mood to chat around with the doctor lady before attacking, but dead prisoners and mutant corpses in a supposedly civilized faction's prison screams shady business. I doubt they were looking for a way to reverse that shit. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they were the ones responsible for it in the first place. Hostile takeover and all.
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>>322292627
that feel when a burrower bear trap deals 70 points of poison damage plus the regular bear trap damage which I'm guessing he can tank no problem
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>>322292806
>tfw just one shot him like any oher thing in the game
Even Carnifex was just like any other fight.

Doesn't matter who you fight as a sniper, it's all the same.
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I wanna give this game a try guys, convince me plz.
I liked the classic fallout's and such
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>>322293498
read the thread mang. if all this build talk and shit doesnt do it for you, this isnt a game you'll like
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There is nothing so satisfying as slapping Carnifex's mind around with mental subversion, then making him run around the arena gibbering in unholy terror, dying like a bitch.
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>>322294305
Making the bitch run into walls of energy, stumble into traps of heavy electronic energy, and get assailed by a copy of himself all while getting growing slower and colder...struggling to move as his insides tremble for warmth.
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How do I destroy these rocks blocking all these places?
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>>322294604
I STILL cant find a copy of the electro mine. Its pissing me off.
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>>322294610
Core storyline - You'll eventually be sent to Depot A to find a drill piece, after that event is done, you'll have access to TNT - You can buy plenty and craft more, or just go to Foundry and pick up a jackhammer. Make sure to keep a bit of TNT handy, though, there's at LEAST one rock you cant destroy with the jackhammer, though
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>Throwing nets are permanently unusable for me

For what purpose? Why are they always Red when I put them on my action bar?

Anybody know what the deal with this is? When I first played the game like 5 days ago, I used them to catch hoppers before I realized that you don't actually need nets at all for that shit.

Now I'm at Core City and just noticed that I can't use them anymore.
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>>322294886
Fuck I wasted different explosives trying to destroy them.oh well.
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>>322294756
I found it in a random barrel in the unclaimed portion of the metro tunnels.

I'm pretty sure it's random since some claimed to have found it in depot A
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>>322295301
Yeah thats what I'm thinking, too. Its a pisser, since psi-mines sounds REALLY useful.

Also, what the fuck, captcha, why are you so obsessed with street signs. Did google contract identifiers out for their robo car project?
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Are crafted molotov cocktails even better?
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>>322295042
>For what purpose? Why are they always Red when I put them on my action bar?
they're a combat utlity - place them on the left side of your inventory window.

select "utilities" from the dropdown in inventory to see what items you have that equip in this way.
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>>322295690
I'm not sure on this one yet - But I suspect the other flammables produce different / better ones.
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>>322288802
>Gorsky is such an unashamed asshole

Ain't he ever.
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The GMS compound has me stumped. Is the only way down to the third floor through the emergency hatch on the second? I've found every secret in there so far but not a way down.
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>>322295690
No. Same thing, but molotovs are so OP, it's useful to have as much as possible.
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>>322297838
Seems to be the case, yeah. You'll just have to have a standup fight from there.
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So why does everyone like this game, anyway? What's the appeal?
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>>322297957
Damnit. Jack already ran away so I guess I'll have to go all the way back to SGS to get a MKII lockpick.
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>>322297838
>Is the only way down to the third floor through the emergency hatch on the second?
Yeah. Can't you just use a vent or anything with electric damage?
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>>322298107
Solid cRPG that focuses on exploration and combat and excels at both.
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>2000 charons to repair the drill
Allright boys, how do I jew that much money?
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>>322298174
Yep, I've been scurrying through the vents like a rat avoiding the bots but my lockpicking skill is 5 points short of opening the hatch. It's the highest skillcheck so far so I figured I'd just keep searching for an alternate path. I guess the mindshroom rooms that require 50 hacking should have given it away though.
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>>322298557
Arena, pretty boy.
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FUCK! Was sneaking around some caves, a crawler comes crawling up behind me, red eye and all, and I slap enter to go into turn time to snipe him. Turns out you have to LEAVE stealth, not just be detected, to lose snipe access. Didnt save me from his buddy right behind me, but still.
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>>322298570
Check the corpse in the central area of level 2. Guy should have a key.
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>>322298557
There is a very trustworthy guy named Abram, he will pay you well for a couple of simple tasks.
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>>322299143
Ah. I was avoiding that area since it was sentry bot central.
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