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>not even /vg/ talks about this game anymore

I know there's an update coming soon, but does anyone here even plan on doing season 5?
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>>322242072
seems like everyone quit for Grim Dawn which is just getting thread after thread because of the steam sale
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>>322242072
no but I am planning on doing your mom.
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>>322242125
has that game improved any? I played it for a little bit about 6 months ago and it felt much weaker than even PoE
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Played every season so far and Season 5 isn't gonna be an exception. Dunno if i'll roll Monk or something else

>>322242125
Circlejerk thread with 5 posters in it but game is fine
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I did a WD in S3, barb in S4. Maybe I'll do S5, I don't know. I don't really like any of the other classes, honestly.
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Is there any reason to play D3 when you could play POE or Grim Dawn instead?
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so what's new with d3? I haven't played since RoS and even then I never got past torment 1
I'd kind of like to get back into it, but it feels like there's too much meta I don't understand now
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>>322242338
I wish I knew why i can't get into poe
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>>322242430
Diablo 3 is literally the simplest ARPG on the market, hit level 70 and find the most popular build on Diablofans and enjoy farming. Its not PoE levels of skillbuilds here

>>322242338
Diablo 3 is the fastest of PoE and Grim Dawn, they all excell in their own areas
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>witch doctor class instead of necromancer

still kinda butthurt about this
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>>322242430
It's still just grind, grind, grind. Now there's a cube that lets you equip legendary effects from a weapon/armor/ring and without using the items, and transmute crafting items. Hellfire amulets are a little easier to make. The only thing I know that S5 adds are set dungeon challenges.
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>>322242737
what're the hellfire amulets good for?
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>>322242786
They give you an extra class passive ability.
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>>322242786
Gives you a free passive along with stats
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>>322242615

>Diablo 3 is the fastest of PoE and Grim Dawn, they all excell in their own areas

N-no anon, y-you have to pick a side! B-baka anon!

But yeah, D3 is easily the fastest. Also has among the smoothest gameplay of any hack and slash out there, is easy to manage and control, and overall I'd say the most polished.

Wish there were more areas though. It needs another expansion with new stuff in, new enemies, new characters.
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>>322242125
>quit for Grim Dawn
do you even know what you're talking about?

D3 gets old after 20 hours or so, hence why there isn't even a general anymore, no one gives a fuck about it once they cap their char and get the set they want.

Grim dawn gets old after 5-10hrs, it's so shallow and repetitive it makes me sad, the gear is terrible, end game is almost non existant. And the difficulty gap is basically monster have 5x health and deal 3x damage, have fun!

I don't understand how people can keep believing the GD shills when the game is awfull.
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I never played Diablo 2

should I just pirate it?
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Maybe they should have made a second expansion for the game
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>>322242972
There is no pirate class in Diablo 2.
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diablo is a dead game, starcraft 2 is a dead game, world of warcraft is a dead game. idk blame metzen
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>>322242072
I've played this game to completion and I still don't know what this stupid season bullshit is nor do I care.
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>>322242972

Eh, either that or buy a key cheap. Or skip ahead and get D3 instead.

What you should do is to get the first game, then the second, and finally the third to see what a fucking transformation the series has gone through.
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>>322243138
I've already played Diablo 3
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>>322242883
>Diablo 3
Fastest gameplay and smoothest by far, simpleness can be a pro or con

>PoE
Autism and skillbuild simulator where putting shit together and see it work is great but clunky combat

>Grim dawn
Only game meant for single player/co-op and the hours i played of it was a deeper than Diablo 3 but not as deep as PoE, somewhat better melee than PoE

I like all three games and cycle between them because
OPINIONS
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>>322242194
Among other things, it's now content complete and all patches until late Q1 next year are purely bugfixes, visual improvements, and tweaks.

Also, Diablo 3 RoS is worse than Path of Exile and Grim Dawn for pretty much everyone. I get burnt out on RoS in hours, whereas I can go days at a time on Path of Exile. I don't have Grim Dawn yet or I'd try it and probably enjoy it.
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>>322242072
D3 is quite fun, but it's get tiring. After some time, you just have to spend 200 hours to grind all the pieces for the new OP build, then you wait for an update that nerfs the build and get the new items.
It amazes me how people get 1000+ paragon without getting tired.
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D3 is dead forever, it'd take a total overhaul of everything but the base combat to fix it which activision is not even remotely interested in doing.

No PvP, stats are meaningless, items are meaningless, all characters are exactly identical, "end game" is just spamming rifts to get a meaningless number high, no lobbies, no server list.
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>>322243348
>It amazes me how people get 1000+ paragon without getting tired.

Botting.
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>>322243167

Well, get the first one. Best atmosphere of any in the series.

>>322243348

I know what you mean. I can only play hack-n-slash games for so long until I get bored, because I can't stand grinding. I need quests, missions, something to do. A motivation to go out in the world instead of just grinding monsters endlessly in order to get a item which allows me to grind monsters faster.
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>>322243348
Complementing what I said, Blizzard also killed every single chance to make it fun. No rooms with more than 4 people, no PvP, no trading, no way to play the game offline, even if it was with a different char etc.

>>322243554
I've seen people on twitch doing that. You'll see when S5 rolls out, some guy and his three friends will be playing it non-stop until they get the top leaderboard. Then they just keep doing the same rifts using the same spells to get their equips.
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>>322242972
Sure, as long as you're not an autist who can't handle old grafics. D2 > D3, easily.
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>>322242950
I TOLD YOU, DOG
I TOLD YOU ABOUT TQ BEING BORING PIECE OF SHIT
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>>322243669
>No rooms with more than 4 people
>no trading

They fucked so bad, goddamnit. If they had taken all the D2 systems, mechanics, artstyle and pasted it onto the D3 combat it would have been such a good game.
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>Play summoner in Path of Exile
>At times have 50+ minions and I'm not even done with normal difficulty
If there's a better game in the genre to play summoner, I haven't seen it
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>>322243415
>items are meaningless
nigga what
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>>322243347
>Diablo 3 RoS is worse than Path of Exile

False. PoE is shit
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>>322243908

Skill system in D3 is great though. Each skill has five different variants and can potentially change how the spell looks, is used and everything. There is a fuckton of variety in it.

>>322244030

The only competitor is the D2 Necro, there are no other cool summoning classes.

Well, there was one in City of Villains, which was cool, but that game is literally dead. As in, they closed down the game kind of dead.
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of course I'm doing season 5, my podcasts ain't gonna listen to themselves you know
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>>322243348
>he needs 200 hours to get gear
Try two evenings

>>322244030
>mfw Cuckclone
Or you could just one shot things right away
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>>322244030
shit, that's the big let-down for me in d3
maybe i'll pick up poe again after all, i never tried summoner builds
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>>322244181
Dude quit shilling so hard for a game that isn't that great. I've been playing D3 since launch, am 600+ paragon in hardcore (I've taken a ton of breaks), and even I know the skill system in D3 is boring as fuck.
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>>322242194
Yes, it's much better now, but since I've not played PoE I can't say if you'll like it.
For me GD has improved in all the areas that TQ was lacking. It just has fewer classes (which in turn are far more balanced without mods) and its own lore instead of Greek myths, which is neither amazing nor offensive.
Devotion system, which was not present 6 months ago, gives your character more customisation.
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Realised how much better this genre felt playing d3's demo with a controller. Though apparently d3 is shit so what else should I play that's also controller compatible?
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>>322242615
>>322242883
>>322243239
>Diablo 3 is the fastest
Have you just not played POE?
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>>322244181
>Skill system in D3 is great though
Agreed. The way the runes work are pretty good. Though it's kind of shitty how you can only have six skills at a a time, because it makes everyone use the same meta skills. I use DH and I barely use any discipline skills, because all the skills I have, sans vault, use hatred.
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>>322244478

>hack-n-slash
>controller compatible

There is none.

>>322244404

And I like the skill system. I like how Runes work. I like how they change the skills. I don't want to reroll a character just because I put one skill point into the wrong skilltree. The system in D3 lets me dick around with whatever I want, and switch quickly whenever I want without going to a NPC.
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>>322244481
Just a little. I take Grim Dawn or Diablo 3 any day over PoE combat
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>>322244331
>two evenings
Yeah if you already have Focus and Restraint. Sure is great seeing days of Focus drops and not one restraint. I never did get a set that had Crit Hit or Crit Damage rolled by default so I could reforge into having both.
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>>322244751
>Focus and Restraint
This is possibly what killed D3. It's so fucking broken that it isn't even fun.
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>>322244982
Lucky for you then
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>>322242072
I'll probably give the new season a run. Done every other season. Might even try playing something other than a monk for once. At least the game gets better every patch, unlike PoE.
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>>322245167
Ops wrong version, its supposed to be +100% damage instead of 800%
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>>322244060
In diablo 2, uniques had static level requirements and stats. For example, the very valuable end game item, Stone of Jordan, only had a level 29 requirement. Unique had significance and substance due to them being static, when you saw a unique colossus blade drop you were like "ohhhh shit it's a grandfather blade! I'll need to get my barb to level 81 so he can use that."

Whereas in D3, "legendaries" are hollow and meaningless because they can be any level and stats. Get a low level legendary? Just throw it away when you level up a bit, you'll find another at higher level.

>>322244719
>switch quickly whenever I want without going to a NPC

I understand the convenience, but it kills the feeling of customization or personal touch and progression. Looking at a talent tree and thinking about a build, weighing talents against each other is part of the fun.
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>>322245167
Oh, talking about 2.4, how is that melee DH set coming along?
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Grim Dawn was fun for like a few hours.

I still play D3 sometimes. I'll usually go through like a one or two week spurt where I play every day after work, then not play it for two months. Usually if I think of a build I really want to do. Except at the start of a season, then it's at least a month or two of nonstop.

I wind up doing this infinite loop of that between this, Hearthstone, Heroes, and WoW. Blizzard games probably eat up 90% of my gaming time.
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>>322245398
Not a DH person but people been saying really good things about it, a legit way to play if you want
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>>322245429
You poor bastard.
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>>322245370
Your logic is pretty convenient, since it ignores that 99% of uniques in D2 were garbage you hated to see no matter what class or build you were. You hand pick SoJ, ignoring its one of maybe 3 low level uniques worth bothering with.
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>>322244478
>Though apparently D3 is shit

Step 1 is stop listening to /v/. If you liked the game, play it.
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>>322245370
>Whereas in D3, "legendaries" are hollow and meaningless because they can be any level and stats

But this is completely wrong. Every legendary has a minimum level it can drop at. You can't find most legendaries until near or at max level, and you can't find a whole shit ton of them, including most sets, unless you're in Torment 1 or higher.
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>>322245370
>Looking at a talent tree and thinking about a build, weighing talents against each other is part of the fun.

Having to go through Act 2 three times or begging for a rush just to try out a new build was not fun, however.
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>>322242072
>not even /vg/ talks about this game anymore
>I know there's an update coming soon, but does anyone here even plan on doing season 5?


Honestly seasons are the reason I don't anymore, the whole focus is on them and whenever I consider playing we're always in that stage of waiting for a new season

So bizarrely a really good feature has led to me playing the game less
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>>322245429
Jesus, im surprised people actually play heroes
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>>322245370

>I understand the convenience, but it kills the feeling of customization or personal touch and progression. Looking at a talent tree and thinking about a build, weighing talents against each other is part of the fun.

I see what you mean. In D3 the focus was not on the skillset but rather on your items and gear which was, and still is, the primary progression.

A lot of the changes done in D3 was to combat bots and farmers. The AH and no trading is a perfect example of this.
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>>322244481
Just because you can make a (useless) speed build doesn't mean PoE is fast
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>>322244478
"D3 is shit" is a meme that some people on /v/ never got over. D3 has been a solid game for a while now.
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ill play it when next exp will come out
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>>322245398
It's actually pretty viable.
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>>322242072
No because blade and soul comes out
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>>322245876
>and whenever I consider playing we're always in that stage of waiting for a new season

15 days every four months?
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>>322243908
Trading isn't fun

Actually being able to get all the drops you want through play is much more enjoyable than sitting in a fucking chat window spamming wts/wtb
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>>322245926
The objective based maps make things somewhat interesting.

They dropped the ball in a ton of other areas though.
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>>322245926

It's a Blizzard game. A LOT of people play HotS.

But goddamn if it doesn't get stale fast. Fun game, but has no progression at all.

>>322245957

At release it deserved a lot of flak, but now I'd even go so far and say it's overall the best ARPG on the market.
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>>322245973
>next expansion

Keep thinking that.
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>>322244161
kek, mad cuz casul
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>>322245973
I don't think Blizzard has any idea what its doing with D3. Probably won't even have another expac. If they were working on it they would have announced it at E3. Which is weird considering how many hard copies it sold, but whatever.
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>pick this up again for piss4 (console babby blah blah)
>friend gives me some monk gear to try out
>cold exploding palm with seven sided strike build
>run through everything
>get bored after a while
Looks like I will be waiting for this gimped update for the ps4.
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Anyone know what the seasonal related rewards will be? I read they won't have season only gear anymore, so only reason to do seasons is a fresh start and whatever achieves and cosmetics they put in, I think.
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>>322242072
>diablo 3
>The autismal's ARPG
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>>322245973
>next expansion pack
>level cap raised to 80 (all your current legendary gear is worse than 80 blue items)
>completely new meta
>one new skill for each class that is either entirely broken or completely useless
>new act you will only play once since doing rifts is better

$59.99
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>>322242072
yea I'll play for a few weeks then drop it like i do with every season
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>>322242125
>Grim Dawn
>it costs exactly the amount i have in my wallet

Should i buy it to play until next season starts in D3?
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>>322246502
The ability to move an already non-season character into a new season is interesting.
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>>322246671
No

It releases properly in Feb so full release will clash with the new season
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>>322246375

Because rabid fans have no idea what they want.

>make it like D2!
>"what the fuck this is just a remake"
>make it more unique
>"what the fuck, this isn't D2"
>make it more like D1
>"what the fuck, there's a game before Diablo 2?"
>don't do anything
>"what the fuck Blizzard doesn't know what to do with D3"

Damned if you, damned if you don't.
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so how's Devilian, burned out on PoE and finished leveling a new build in Grim Dawn. Just want to run around killing mobs and getting sweet loot
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>>322247130

Terrible.

Fucking Korean MMO terrible. Avoid at all fucking costs.
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>>322247313
>>322247130
Literally the best game in the world, worship it with your naked body forever
Play the demo
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>>322244478
Victor Vran's a bit of fun.
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>>322245585
>Your logic is pretty convenient

No it isn't, retard. First off, there were many valuable low level uniques, (chance guards, magefist, bloodfist, frost burn, tarnhelm, biggins bonnet, etc.) Second, unless you have previously established wealth the even most of "bad" uniques are pretty gud. Third, it doesn't matter if there are bad uniques, the principle of having iconic, recognizable items is critical.

>>322245640
I've found multiple of the same legendary sword while leveling, at varying levels and stats. You telling me "oh well uhh there is a minimum level" doesn't make those items any less meaningless and non-legendary to me at the time they dropped. They may as well be rares instead of legendaries.

>>322245753
That only means there should be a reasonably easy method of respeccing, not that every character needs to be homogenized and identical.

>>322245931
>A lot of the changes done in D3 was to combat bots and farmers.

It's ironic they started with the RMAH.

>>322246112
Trading is fun. Waiting to trade is not. Just need to make the process smooth and easy.
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>>322249003
How many hours a day do you spend on 4chan waiting to spam bait like this? 16? More?
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Diablo 3 was such a fucking borefest. And they even managed to fuck over the most important aspect = the atmosphere.

At least no one is living under the illusion that Blizzard is alive anymore. Rest in pieces old chap.
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>>322249662
it was over the day they merged with activision
its no surprise they literally cannot stop remaking the same games over and over again anymore
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>>322249662
Sounds like opinions, i like gameplay more
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I just want a game with loot an itemization
I'd like binding of isaac if it weren't just dodging
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>>322249572
I'm debating. I like to spread knowledge to those I reply to and those that read threads. I also am looking for somebody to prove me wrong so I can gain more knowledge too. I don't know how long I spend in this shithole.

I feel very fedora right now.
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I played in every Season so far

And I plan to continue to do it in Season 5

Maybe this time I get a good rank
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like any multiplayer game I think it'd be a blast if only i could get my friends to play past killing diablo the first time
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What's the best way to ensure legendary drops?
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>>322250731
Kill shit, get Death's Breath and upgrade Rare items
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>>322250731
better question is how to get the right drops
>build needs X item to function
>keep rolling rares trying to get it
>keep getting the same shitty set item over and over and over again
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>>322250589
They probably don't have autism. Playing the same content over and over is boring to people that aren't excited by numbers.
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I've reached level 70 on my first character (Crusader) and I'm currently playing on torment 1. I've reached a point where pretty much all damage done comes from my legendary items triggering abilities, rather than my own abilities. Am I doing something wrong, or is late game like that for every hero?
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>>322242125
>seems like everyone quit for Grim Dawn
Yeah, or it might just be PoE. I love how /v/ went from
>PoE is shit because of desync
to
>PoE is shit because fuck you
now that lockstep is a thing.
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>>322250731
>rain of legendaries
>faggots still complain
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>>322251728
I'm just too simple-minded for PoE, but D3 is too boring to play once you hit rift-farming
at this rate I'm either going to be playing minecraft again or even worse watching twitch
maybe I should just kill myself
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>>322251728
PoE is shit because every new patch makes the game worse. Rather than expanding the game, they just make fewer and fewer builds viable, while 90% of the stuff they add is worthless crap. Even the seasonal gimmicks are half assed.

But hey, at least they have lockstep instead of desync and never fail to add more cash shop shit.
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>>322252404
I don't play PoE, what's lockstep
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>>322252491
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Lockstep

Basically, the game still has fucked servers, it just shows it in a different way now.
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>make a really shallow but flashy game
>wonder why no one plays it after the first week or two
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>>322242072
>not even /vg/ talks about this game anymore

/vg/ doesn't talk about games. All they do is have a giant tripfag circle jerk over their own characters and do gay ass shit. They don't talk about games.

You ever see that tripfaggot in the final fantasy threads who only posts about his "cute" character and always samfags himself that he looks "cute"? That's the entirety of /vg/.
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>>322252404
>PoE is shit because every new patch makes the game worse
I agree, doesnt change the fact that /v/ used to say that the game was bad because of desync which is now gone.

2.1 probably makes me lagg more than any other patch. Opening a strong box with an Exile in it is something I just instantly log after opening. No point in sitting in freeze screen for 1-2 seconds praying to not have died.

>while 90% of the stuff they add is worthless crap
Thanks filler uniques. Utterly retarded. I agree that their current direction is retarded and doesnt even make any sense. They could just add a new Atziri any patch and people would be happy/
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Diablo 3 has gotten pretty decent with this last patch. I quit forever, but went back and checked out the last patch and this new one coming out in January. I plan on going back to D3 after I get bored of Grim dawn. Then I'll go back to Grim Dawn when it gets mod support and some class mods.
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