Games with only one good game in the series.
>replaying BL1 this week after 900 hours in 2
>it actually is better
There's so many red chests and I'm constantly finding gear upgrades. And mother fucking REVOLVERS!And no memes or LOL SO RANDOM humor.
>>322239379
Most importantly to me is the balance is a lot better. Really the only thing 2 did better was weapon variety and more characters to pick.
falloutnvteam fortress2thewitcher1
>>322239471
I think 2 had nicer variety of environments and scenery as well, but at the same time 1 has the better atmosphere because everything's so shitty looking and there's junk everywhere.
>spend all day posting in a meme infested shithole
>get triggered if you see a single meme outside of that shithole
I don't get you guys
>>322239794
I would rather those awful memes not exist to begin with. If I have to put up with them here I damn sure don't want to see such crap when I am playing video games.
>>322239379
>borderlands
>no MEMES LOL SO RANDUM humor
>>322239742
Really sets in the whole, "Pandora's a backwater, piece of shit planet" well.
>>322239794
>a meme infested shithole
Why do you think this place is a "meme infested shithole"? Who do you think is to blame? Or do you really think that anyone who's been here for more than a year or two actually enjoys all this LE KEK JUST DESU ME UP SENPAI bullshit?
>>322239742
>I think 2 had nicer variety of environments and scenery
I mostly don't agree with base game, but the areas of Pirate's Booty and Big Game Hunt are some of the best looking shit.
>>322240115
Talking about 1. It has plenty of pop culture references, and Claptrap is kinda stupid, but there aren't memes like 2 has.
>>322240304
Literally you are to blame.
No on did this to /v/ other than yourselves. There's no one here but yourselves.
>>322238767
>>322240390
Claptrap isn't even that bad in 1.
I only remember the starting claptrap being generally annoying, and even then he's actually trying to help instead of "lol you're my le minion". any of the others are genuinely funny to me, like when you have to find the repair kit for them and they're moaning shit in pain on the ground.
I never played Robot Revolution though
>Played Borderlands 1
loved it.
>Played Borderlands 2
Enjoyed it pre-OP
>Played Borderlands 1.5
I mean, it's the epitome of their shitty push lesbians to the forefront of everything writing, but it's still not that bad, just has 0 replayability with no end-game.
>>322238767
Borderlands isn't good
>>322238767
Borderlands has never been good.
It's a boringly long and repetitive easy as shit FPS.
>>322238767
BL1 was fucking great, the story and characters were a bit bland in my opinion but gameplay wise the game was near perfect.
BL2 had more variety but for some reason the loot system feels like shit and every weapon(besides Jackobs, Tediore and Hyperion weapons) has at least something thta renders it to completely useless, i find it fucking incredible that mostly unique weapons are legendaries are fucking crap.or have some gimmick that they thought it was funny.
BL:TPS had better PLAYABLE CHARACTERS, the skill tress were fucking awesome and the way the characters have actual dialog was awesome, but everything else was shittier than BL2(from area design to loot system), especially because the game still has non-farmable bosses and enemies.
The fact the studio responsible for TPS was australian didn't help either and they closed doors before releasing the next DLC for TPS.
>>322239742
2 had a lot of steep cliffs in a game where the main character can't super jump, run fast, fly, or climb stuff. one bad move and you're spending 10 minutes walking around a long cliff just to get back to the main path.
>>322241261
>the next DLC for TPS
They had already confirmed there was only going to be 1 story DLC when they released the game, but otherwise, I agree.
Pre-Sequel has infinitely better, more balanced characters as compared to shit like Salvador and Gaige, while BL2 has a far better end-game, not the OP bullshit, but all the raid bosses you could do all across the map.
At least we got one good thing out of Pre-Sequel.
>>322241526
they were actually working on a new DLC for TPS or at least planing on making a new one.
https://youtu.be/QU5nyJ98V6A
>>322238767
Correct series, wrong game. BL2 is better.
>>322242026
They both have good points and bad points. Hopefully 3 will combine all the good and leave out the bad. Probably not though.
>>322241823
Oh WOW. That's news to me. I would have loved some real end-game.
All I can hope for now is Borderlands 3, which will either be an MMO, ASSFAGGOTS, or whatever the hell Battleborn is.
>>322238767
Pic not related? Cause it has no good games.
>>322243054
yeah, it is ass, 2K australia closed, not because the game bombed but because some shit related to gaming happened in australia.
>>322241261
>Dahl weapons
>Vladof weapons
>completely useless
Bitch I will fight you
I hope the next Borderlands has the writing and humor of BL1, the variety of BL2 and the gameplay of TPS (with some hints of BL1). I think that would finally be a great Borderlands game
I don't know what everyone's problem with 2 is. I've been playing through it and I'm not seeing any LOL SO RANDOM or forced memes anywhere, aside from that double rainbow
>>322239471
I felt like BL2 had less weapon variety simply because so many weapons were useless.
>>322243558
dahl is alright but the only thing going for it is the burst fire, vladofs are also ok in my book but nothing like a jackobs or a hyperion weapon can't handle, they aren't useless but they have nothing special either
Also, i really hate how assault rifles are incredibly shitty in this game.
>>322239379
>>322239471
I played 1 with my brother and enjoyed it. I was planning on picking up 2 so we can play that also. Should I not?
>>322244049
>Also, I really hate how assault rifles are incredibly shitty in this game.
This. I didn't expect myself to be using an SMG through the entire game.
>>322244143
Yeah assault rifles, with the exception of a very few legendaries, were all garbage
>>322244027
Same. At first I really liked the brand gimmicks and felt they added more diversity, but after playing for a while I feel it's actually the opposite. So many guns are rendered useless by their gimmick, depending on your build and playstyle. Like I'd never use Dahl snipers because burst on a sniper is a pain in the ass, and almost all Bandit guns suck because their gimmick is worthless.
>>322244080
It's worth playing, especially if you get it on sale. I mean, I had fun with it and all, I just feel that 1 is the objectively better game now.
>>322241261
>Hyperion weapons
Yeah, I love wasting three quarters of my magazine to get actual good accuracy and then losing it all while I reload. Top notch weapons. Hyperion was good in the first game, but complete ass in the second.
>>322244143
>>322244245
like, fucking seriouslu, there's zero poiint in using assault rifles in the game, the damage sucks and mostly of then have garbage elemental damage and effect chance.
the only ones i ever use are jackobs and i only use them when i have nothing else.
also, is there any kind of grinder in BL2 like BL TPS? i dont feel like farming for legendaries in the game.
>>322244080
2 and onward are really bad in terms of loot drop rates, and scaling. The stories are fucking garbage tryhard shit, and the quests are filled with unfunny humor.
But they beat out BL1 in the playable characters completely in skills, I even like the personalities in 2 and pre sequel (except claptrap) more but that's my opinion. Shooting doesn't feel as good as 1, and the weapon gimmicks get old extremely quickly.
They're on sale on steam RIGHT NOW so if you want them though, you can go for it.
>>322244508
>is there any kind of grinder in BL2 like BL TPS
Nope. Farming bosses for their specific guns, or farming train chest/treasure room or loot midgets for random legendaries are about the only options.
As for assault rifles, the only ones I ever liked were the Kerblaster on my explosive Axton and the Bekah (but good luck ever finding that one).
>>322244526
I guess I will get it. Is the dlc worth it?
>>322244337
I would abuse the golden chest in sanctuary just to get some good loot and still most of the purples I got weren't that good. There was also the issue with the different parts on weapons potentially making a good legendary or other weapon shit. They did add variety, but they reduced viable guns by a lot.
>>322244508
Nope grinder was new to TPS. I farmed legendaries for a bit in BL2, but the raid mobs have TERRIBLE drop rates and a lot of times you get less than ideal parts. It's why I resorted to using a third party program to modify the parts of weapons I got. That's really what the game needed, a way to switch out parts with other guns, would have made grinding a thousand times easier.
>>322244508
Dahl Assault Rifles can be decent if you get good stats, because burst fire is generally accurate, but they'll still almost always be outclassed, which is a shame. Not to mention they're ass for Fight for your Life.
>>322238767
Borderlands was shit.
>>322244745
The storyline DLCs are worth it I'd say, and Gaige and Krieg are great characters. The headhunter DLCs and head/skin packs are optional.
>>322244770
>There was also the issue with the different parts on weapons potentially making a good legendary or other weapon shit
Yeah, farming for perfect parts got tedious fast.
testing something
>>322244339
it aint that bad, at least you dont have to aim down the sights for mostly weapons.
>>322244795
i agree
>>322244745
There's a few different types of dlcs.
check the character packs and see if you want to play Krieg or Gaige, if they're to your liking.
The level upgrades will take you to level 72, with gear level going to 80 if you want to grind shit out.
Torgue's campaign of Carnage and Sir Hammerlock's Big Game Hunt aren't very good, at least in my opinion. Captain Scarlett is fun if you like pirates. Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep is the best dlc, loot wise, gameplay wise and even story wise.
I would not say the headhunter packs are worth anything, but if you want to try holiday themed stuff you could
>>322245137
It was stupid, especially coupled with the horrendous drop rates. I don't know how many times I killed Hyperius before I got a Norfleet.
Goddammit why did codemasters have to try to cash in on the normie crowd
>>322238767
Persona4
>>322244745
BL2 goty has a lot of dlcs, most of the important one iirc
>>322238767
Borderlands was extremely bland IMO. Both Pre sequel and 2 were better.
>>322245353
not having cockpit camera on the sequels was a stupid idea.
>>322244080
its weird that so many people bash BL2, because I think it is a vast improvement on the original. Handsome Jack is one of the most evil villains I have ever seen, the level design is spectacular, the environments are great.
Let's see... the art design, overall, is a huge improvement. its more of an evolution of the first one. Slag element doesn't add that much, but it can save your ass in a pinch. you have the ability to store guns you aren't using. This is a huge boon to a collector, like me. I hate finding something super rare, and then having to sell it because you need the inventory space
it's a great game, overall. Even if you prefer the first one, there is no way you will have a bad time.
Don't mind me, just posting the best Borderlands grill.
>>322238767
the FOV in BL1 is nauseating
>>322244339
Hyperion shotguns are the best in the game, though. their SMGs are universally crap, but all other weapons are wonderful, if you get blue, or better rarity. the Snipers are powerful and balanced, and the pistols do crazy damage. and, again, if you get a high rarity pistol you can blow off a few shots and then needle an enemy's crit spots mercilessly
>>322239794
Because I object to someone taking a dump in my living room, that doesn't mean I'm opposed to the act of defecating.
Memes belong on shitty internet boards.
>>322246027
>you have the ability to store guns you aren't using
Technically 1 had that too, but it was in a DLC. But another thing about 1 is that upgrading inventory space is much easier since you get so much from Claptrap rescues. I think you can get 42 slots by the time you finish normal just by doing those.
>>322246310
>their SMGs are universally crap
Except the Bitch. That one was amazing.
>>322246084
that's notTina or Maya
>>322246837
>Tina
Pic related. AndAthenaa best
>>322247020
Athena is really cute, I'll admit.
I'm just a lolicon.
Never played BL1, but I did play the handsome jack collection's BL2. Besides the meme dialogue I had a fucking blast. I might go play it right now, the pre-sequel is total shit though
>>322246837
>liking tina
>liking borderlands
how's the spectrum?
>have to go into an area swarming with Hyperion robots
>the last corrosive weapon you saw was ten levels ago and long since sold
>all you have are fire weapons
>>322247223I literally have no clue what you're talking about
>Play Borderlands 1
>Filled with bland as fuck characters, terrible storyline (beat X bandits to get key parts, then beat ancient evil) average FPS gameplay with mediocre skill trees (every talent is a godamn pasive skill that reduces cooldown or increases damage), boring as hell environments (you barely see anything other than deserts), mediocre DLC (only Knoxx was good, Underdome and Ned were terrible and Claptrap's was decent at best) and awful level scaling to the point where you have to beat almost all sidequest if you don't wanna be underleveled.
>/v/ loves it
>Borderlands 2
>Characters from the first game are more fleshed out and new ones are also more memorable (Handsome Jack is easily the best character in the series), the storyline while simple is still much better and builds up the confrontation between you and Jack, new elements for your weapons (that you actually use this time around unlike in BL1 where you barely used anything outside of fire), new skill trees are much better and actually give big improvements (see Gaige or Krieg and compare them to how awful the ones from 1 were), DLC is actually good this time around (Torgue's is basically what Underdome should have been, Tiny Tina's is some of the best DLC ever made and Scarlett can be fun if you like a pirate theme while giving some great weapons), a lot more different kinds of environments and is so full of content that you don't even have to complete half of sidequest to be able to match the final boss
>/v/ hates it
Always do the opposite of what /v/ says, I guess.
>>322247234
>Old Haven without a good corrosive weapon
>>322247208
Same I just picked it up and it has gotten me back into playing vidya. I probably will create a character to play more seriously, but this is a good game to get comfy and fuck around with.
>>322241137
It's not really better than the original. All the added stuff is cool but the combat is fudged, the game is more linear and the levels are a string of terribly executed ideas. They're both terribly flawed games with amazing potential, but the second game is far more frustrating to me.
>>322247234
>half of the game's enemies are fucking robots
>not carrying at least ONE corrosive weapon
get fucked faggot.
Half-Life: Opposing Force. And it's hilarious because Gearbox developed it.
>>322247706
>Started the game making a fire krieg build
>Get to the part where you have to save Roland
>Realize then that I'm fighting Hyperion and my build is fucking worthless against them.
Fuck me man.
>>322247546
My main issues with BL2 are the weapon system and general balance of the game. I do think BL2 was several steps in a better direction, but at the same time it took a few steps back as well.
>>322247779
probably their best game
>>322247779
Actually felt like this is what inspired Halo.
>>322247546
A lot of that is just like your opinion man, but
>and awful level scaling to the point where you have to beat almost all sidequest if you don't wanna be underleveled
Is just wrong, I'm playing 1 right now and I had to stop doing side quests entirely because I was getting too overleveled from doing the early game missions.
>>322247829
Fire Krieg isn't dependent on fire, once you have Delusional Damage you can use of types of elemental weapons on him.
>>322247546
but that's the thing mate, people liked borderlands 1 for the gameplay and loot system alone, no one gave a shit about the characters besides for some DLC ones and whatever character you choose. Borderlands 1 had better characters and a great villain but it fucked up a lot of things that made borderlands's core gameplay enjoyable., if they had kept at least borderlands 1 loot system BL2 would be a master piece.
>>322247706
I hadn't seen one in ten levels
Would a weapon that is underleveled by ten levels really have made a difference? I think not.
>>322247779
holly shit, are you serious now? i fucking loved opposing force and i didnt know 2k developed that shit.
that's awesome.
>>322248087
not really but damn man, at least buy one on the machines or something.
>>322248108
2k didn't develop that shit. Gearbox did.
Big difference.
It allowed you to have fun while playing alone too.
>>322239379
Guns also looked better in 1 in my opinion.
>>322247946
>Is just wrong, I'm playing 1 right now and I had to stop doing side quests entirely because I was getting too overleveled from doing the early game missions
I don't know man, I was always underleved as hell for the main bosses in the first three or four zones in the game (I fight Sledge normally with a lvl 16-17 character and Krom with a lvl 25 or so character and I finish all the sidequest prior to getting to them). Maybe is because I fight as few enemies as possible, but I always was either underleveled or in the same level as the quest I was doing.
>>322247836
>My main issues with BL2 are the weapon system and general balance of the game
I don't remember having any problems on normal or tvhm besides the damn badass loaders/super badass loaders, so I don't get this unless you are talking about uvhm (which is optional).
>>322247980
>but that's the thing mate, people liked borderlands 1 for the gameplay and loot system alone,
The gameplay was really average, BL2 improved on it by adding more elements into the mix that were actually important to have. And I don't get why you complain about loot when you don't even need a legendary weapon to beat the game. Post-content/raids perhaps?
>>322247342
Anon is implying you're on the autistic spectrum.
>>322249056
>BL2 improved on it
>When they make ARs useless
>When they make every manufacturer have a gimmick and make it completely unbalanced
>When they put in shitty humour
>When they made looting absolutely shite
>When any elemental save slag became irrelevant
How did they improve it anon?
I just beat Wilhelm in BL2. Is that thing the same dude from BL the Precum Sequel? He looks alot different.
>>322249056
every gun feels like shit anon, that's why everyone likes to go for legendaries in BL2, problem is mostly legendaries have such a low drop rate that everyone needs to grind the fuck out of bosses to get those.
>>322249685
Presequel was made after 2, when 2 was made Wilhelm was just some run of the mill engineer in an exoskeleton thing. I guess they had to make him look better when they chose to use him as a playable character.
>>322249419
>When they make ARs useless
I used AR for both normal and tvhm with no problem at all (some of them being my best weapons for some time) so not seeing the issue here.
>When they make every manufacturer have a gimmick and make it completely unbalanced
So more diversity is a bad thing?
>When they put in shitty humour
This has nothing to do with the gameplay or combat system of the game senpai.
>When they made looting absolutely shite
You can beat the game no problem with just reward from quests, so I barely see the problem. Looting in general is for those who want to raid or do post game content.
>>When any elemental save slag became irrelevant
Slag is irrelevant and useless in normal and tvhm and is only useful in uvhm, so I don't see the problem.
>>322249758
>every gun feels like shit anon
How so? I beat the Warrior with fucking greens and blues in both normal and tvhm.
>>322250008
>More diversity
How? Several gun manufacturers ended up being irrelevant and useless.
>Just from quests
Anon, in a game about shooting and looting, I damn well expect some good fucking loot. You can get good shit from quests in any RPG, doesn't mean you don't want the legendaries.
Also
>When enemies are the biggest bullet sponges in the world
>When the game feels like a complete fucking slog
>
>>322249419
>When they make every manufacturer have a gimmick
Better than every gun being the exact same.
>>322250441
There were differences between brands in 1, they were just more subtle.
>>322250008
beating enemies with normal weapons aint hard, but different from borderlands one mostly weapons have a huge con, shotguns take more than one shot(2 or some times 3) for each shot without actual damage improvement, assault rifles are complete crap, smg are also kinda shitty but some how surpass assault rifles on damage, mostly elemental weapons have way too low effect chance and etc etc, this also happens on blues and purples which some times dont even compensate having, i just now got a tediore blu shotgun that takes 3 ammo for each shot and it does incredible low damage for what it takes to fire it, i'm better off with a green hyperion or jackobs shotgun.
Don't mind me, just posting the best Borderlands boss.
Okay /v/, build a gun!
Here are the partsfuck you I'm not uploading each of these in seperate posts:
Pistols: http://i.imgur.com/MNVc3UE.jpg
SMGs: http://i.imgur.com/WmKVd0i.jpg
Assault Rifles: http://i.imgur.com/mGnPmSQ.jpg
Sniper Rifles: http://i.imgur.com/0drjEfI.jpg
Shotguns: http://i.imgur.com/cX0ybHH.jpg
Rocket Launchers: http://i.imgur.com/rO7yBvW.jpg
Build a good one!
>>322250993
>got all these parts memorized from my farming days
i spent too many hours grinding in borderlands 2 for fucking cat ears
how did i think it was fun
>>322251302
Was that the one from Vermi?
>>322251394
Yes it was
>>322251504
S'truth. I never bothered with the Terra or Vermi heads, even though some of them were pretty good. I tried farming for the Tina DLC heads once, but gave up after a few hours. Having them as a rare find in dice chests was retarded.
So which one was the class you had the most fun playing as?
>>322252087
psycho
just got the goty edition of 2 which is far better than 1 so far imo
>>322252087
Considering I've only played Soldier and Commando...
I'd have to say Commando. Sabre Turret > Scorpio Turret
>>322252087
Definitely Wilhelm
>>322252087
Zero.
>sniper build
>class cannon with an emphasis on precision
>rushing through areas building CA stacks then absolutely melting enemies
>melee build
>surgical playstyle, using Deception constantly and needing to think on your feet constantly to control the battlefield
>MMF chains and being able to kill every normal enemy and most bosses in one hit
Dude was just so fun.
>>322252087
I'm loving Krieg and looking forward to trying Jack in Precum.
In Borderlands 2, when do i get to do the DLCs?
>>322238767
Halo
>>322242594
What are the good points of 1? Arguably it has stronger atmosphere, I guess. It also has better drop rates.
>>322252087
Anarchy FOREVER!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZuzzapfPHQ
>>322252420
You must be a very boring person.
>>322252862
>In Borderlands 2, when do i get to do the DLCs?
You can go to them any time, just get to a fast travel station and select one of the DLC locations.
>>322253563
so the areas level scale?
>>322253563
I see. So when should i do them?
>>322253378
damn yo, gaige a cute
>>322238767
I started to play 2 (didn't bother with the first one) and 5 hours in, this game boring as fuck and the characters try-hard stupid meme shit.
Why does everyone like this? I'm glad I didn't pay for it.
>>322250993
Shit, I love Maliwan, Tediore and Hyperion designs. They're so exaggeratedly sci-fi.
>>322252087
L I L I T H
has yet to be topped
>gotta go fast ball of death fuck you
>>322253671
If you're on normal or true vault hunter mode, the enemies will scale to your current level, however, they will stick at that level. In Ultimate vault hunter mode all enemies scale to your level and change with it.
>>322253784
Torgue and Scarlett: lvl 15-30
Hammerlock and Tiny Tina: lvl 30+
>>322253671
If I remember correctly most are level 15 as a base and a level 30 general cap on normal. Storywise, only Big Game Hunt is placed post BL2 main storyline
>>322253360
>better atmosphere
>story more of a background thing (no having to stand around and wait for dialogue to finish, no constant echo calls, etc)
>better scaling
>drops tend to be more useful and last longer
>gun brands have different specialties but they don't ruin some of them like 2's gimmicks do
>cash actually has a purpose
>proficiency system instead of badass points (this is debatable I suppose, but a lot of people seem to prefer the former)
>no slag, you have the freedom to use whatever elements you want (I know slag is only necessary in UHVM though, but still)
>no memes
That's what I got off the top of my head.
>>322254093
>>drops tend to be more useful and last longer
That's arguably a bad thing.
>>gun brands have different specialties but they don't ruin some of them like 2's gimmicks do
Strongly disagree.
>>cash actually has a purpose
It's used to gamble in 2.
>>proficiency system
Strongly disliked it.
>>memes
Don't care.
>>322254260
this is some shit ass opinions
>>322254487
better than yours friendo :^)
>>322254260
>That's arguably a bad thing.
Nope, being able to find plenty of usable stuff from enemies and chests is nice. Relying on unique weapons from quests and bosses takes a lot of the fun out of having loot at all.
>It's used to gamble in 2.
Technically that is a purpose, but not a good one.
>>322238767
BL1 was fucking boring shit.
Is the Borderlands Prequel bullshit worth trying out? How's it compare to the others?
>>322254093
>better atmosphere
Debatable
>story more of a background thing
Story is shit
>drops tend to be more useful and last longer
What's the purpose of leveling up and acquiring new guns then? That's a bad thing.
>cash actually has a purpose
I actually agree with this. We need something else to do with our cash in BL3.
>proficiency system
Pure garbage.
>>322254638
>Nope, being able to find plenty of usable stuff from enemies and chests is nice
It is nice. What I'm talking about, and what I've heard people complain about is that a good/decent gun in BL1 can last you 10, 20, sometimes 30 levels, which kind of kills the point of having levels in the first place a bit. This is not very good in a loot game, though it does create a sense of attachment to a gun.
>Technically that is a purpose, but not a good one.
Eh, it would be good if interface was better.
>>322253929
hate to burst your slag bubble buddy but that thing is gonna get useless pretty soon
It simply decides it won't lock on / slag shit anymore when you hit higher level enemies, to the point where only direct hits do anything IF they slag
By then you're just better off having an off-hand slag SMG
>>322253881
>Not playing with friends
>>322254894
>lilith
>slag
>>322254894
>lilith
>slag
Holy shit senpai.
>>322255075
shit hold up I confused lilith and maya
disregard my tard post
>>322244770
>I would abuse the golden chest in sanctuary just to get some good loot and still most of the purples I got weren't that good.
Fucking this. Uninstalled because I could sit there repeatedly opening chests of some of the potentially best loot in the game but it being fucking nothing. Even with that, mobs are bullet sponges and still 3-shot the player.
>>322249883
I believe Jack poisoned him in 2.
It's so you could take down Sanctuary's defense.
>>322254758
someone answer this guy
is it worth a pirate at least?
What BL2 did better than one were sidequests. BL1 sidequests were terrible. Additionally, being able to reset everything and keep playing was a good feature. I think the enemy variety and environment variety were better, too.
But BL2 guns are worse and gimmicky. After level 50 you have to have a DPS build or don't even bother, enemies just become sponges, which makes most trees retarded. Raid bosses are a really dumb decision, BL is a run-and-gun game, "let's all stand in an arena and hope we get the loot we want" is TERRIBAD. Finally, gearbox nerfing shit for "balance" in a PvE game has to be the all-time most retarded thing in the history of this series, which is saying A LOT since Anthony "Just Cuck my Wii Up" Burch was a part of it.
In the end, BL1 was still the better game. The improvements they made to BL2 were overshadowed by the poor decisions.
>>322252087
Doppelganger of course.
Dude is fun as fuck
>Get legendary class mod
>FUlly upgrades Mid skill tree
>Get all kill skills from other trees
>Be pretty much invincible
The fact you can cancel his skill at any time was fucking godlike.
>>322255738
BL2 bosses are better and there's nothing wrong with arena combat design in FPS. BL1 guns are boring as hell.
>After level 50 you have to have a DPS build
As opposed to what? A tank build? A healer build? It's an FPS, not a MMO.
>>322254758
It's basically more Borderlands 2. All weapons are the same with their respective manufacturer gimmicks. Granted, the scaling was tweaked for the better arguably, there's lower gravity, butt stomps, laser guns, and of course a moon setting.
So if you liked Borderlands 2 and still can't get enough, by all means.
>>322255916
>as opposed to what
Then there's no need for trees. The whole thing is fucking pointless.
>>322255916
>BL1 guns are boring as hell.
Except for Mashers, Mashers are godlike.selffix
>>322256015
The trees are for different ways to do damage. Not all of them are viable in endgame and well balanced, which is a minus, yes. But some characters have several playstyles, which is great (sniper Zer0 vs. melee Zer0).
Pre-Sequel was fun in general combat with all the changes they added in like double jumping, slams, and cryo, but the complete lack of an endgame completely killed it. The fact that it took them months to add in a patch to make enemies that drop legendaries respawn so that you could actually farm them was a sign of how poorly the game was handled. And any time Janey Springs opened her piehole made the game even worse.Did you know shes only into girls? Don't worry, she'll tell you.
>>322244770
I feel like they could update the grinder for BL3, make it so that you can scrap a legendary and keep the parts and swap them out on your other legendaries. Put a steep eridium/moonstone/whatever cost on it, make it weapon specific so you can't have an SMG barrel on a shotgun and so on, and call it a day.
>>322255916
>It's an FPS, not a MMO
Tell Gearbox that.
>>322256176
>Not all of them are viable in endgame
exactly, which is a waste of player time and developer time
it's bad
eat shit shill
>>322255738
>balance in a pve game is stupid
when will this meme stop?
>>322248782
This
There was a consistent style that made it all cohesive. An ideal game would have unique sets of parts for each manufactor, while still keeping the same style. But Bl1 did it much better than 2.
2 had no consistency, Maliwan guns were generic scifi stuff, Jakobs was cowboy, Vladof snd Dahl were modern day guns etc.... And they all mixed and matched which meant most guns were Frankensteinen monstrositys.
Bl1 everything fit the world of the game, and no gun made you say "holy shit, that does not belong with that, except maybe 4.0x Zoom on a 1.4% accuracy shotgun).
>>322256363
Ya nah
Guns were boring as fuck in 1
>>322256363
>There was a consistent style that made it all cohesive.
That's an extremely flattering way to say "all the guns looked the same and the only visual difference manufacturers added was paint color".
>Maliwan guns were generic scifi stuff
Fuck you too.
>>322238767
If only it didn't have the FOV problems, Goddammit.
>>322256363
>Maliwan guns were generic scifi stuff
Guess what, Borderlands is scifi
Maliwan guns had the best magazines, too. especially smgs.
>>322256467
Better guns be boring than the entire game like 2
>>322244080
the game is still fun to play in multyplayer, if you enjoyed 1 go ahead anon, you'll have fun.
it just have some stepbacks it shouldn't have
>>322240115
Go back and play 1 for yourself
>>322256604
I love the disc reload on the high-quality SMGs, the way PC "dials" it gets me every time.
>>322256707
Well BL1 is even more boring (less enemy variety, less environment variety) so...
>>322251283
Does this trigger you?
Because when this dropped I went on an emotional roller coaster.
>bandit guns are supposed to be literal pieces of shit cobbled together with junk
>they're among the prettiest weapons in the game at high levels
what the fuck is this shit
>>322256908
Not familiar with the parts in 1, is that a good setup?
Anyway, I never found an Aries. I got a Tsunami once though. Was pretty disappointed when it was completely outclassed by the Hellfire.
>>322257340
Hellfire was so silly in BL1, it could last you 20-30 levels while burning stuff that is supposedly resistant to fire.
>>322258018
Yeah, I'd say it was the overall best gun in 1. And probably part of the reason why DoTs were nerfed so bad in 2.
>>322256604
Yeah, but they don't fit the game (well they fit 2, because it lost the focused style of 1 in favour of a mish mash of styles that sacrificed integrity for cheap jokes and "cool" looking guns).
Borderlands 1 was low-tech Sci-fi, there was teleports and robots and amazing technology, but (at least on Pandora) everything was shitty and run-down, people lived in shacks, everything was made from scrap and the planet was covered in piles of garbage and the remnants of the once lucrative mining industry there. The guns fit this universe by looking the way the did.
Everything had the same artistic direction, blocky but with lots of little moving parts. The guns, chests, ECHO devices, cars, everything fit the style of the game.
Borderlands 2 included whatever they thought would be cool without thinking about consistency or especially remaining true to the original. If it wasn't cell shaded the various guns would look like they belonged in the same game.
>>322258495
>Borderlands 2 included whatever they thought would be cool without thinking about consistency or especially remaining true to the original.
I feel they took that approach to everything. Even the story is full of moments and details that don't make sense but are cool.
>>322258709
>big damn heroes
Burch needs to never, ever, ever, ever write for video games again. Literally ruined Borderlands.
>>322258495
You do realize that these guns/gun parts aren't manufactured on Pandora, except for Banidt ones? Dahl have left Pandora long ago, Jacobs had an installation (Zombie Island DLC), but overall the guns are manufactured elsewhere and display the corporate style of their developer. I guess at some point gun parts get mixed, too. Overall, I thought it was great how every manufacturer had its own style. Loved the Maliwan/Hyperion guns.
>>322238767
Postal 2
>>322257340
> Is that a good setup.
Near Perfect for a 6-shot Aries. Except the barrel which ruins everything. -15% damage and shit accuracy, and looks ugly as fuck. It still wrecks everything, but knowing I was so close (Barrel 5 is very common and has +15% damage and insane accuracy, and looks amazing) hurts Everytime I look at it.
I found at least one of every Pearl except Tsumnami and Nemisis, which were two that I really wanted.
An Invader Nemisis is the "white whale" of Borderlands for me, I want it, and I still farm occasionally but the chances are so abysmally low.
Someone got one early last year in the Item of the Day thread on the GBX forums though, in a chest of all places.
>>322258914
But they were 3d printed, which does make sense for the way borderlands 1 guns look.
>>322259432
>which does make sense for the way borderlands 1 guns look
this does make sense for the way any gun looks then
why would a 3D printed gun look handmade?
>>322245357
>>322245925
This better be shitposting
>>322259528
They didn't look handmade they looked like bits and pieces slapped together like the other anon described. The parts to produce the printings need materials, which is shitty scrap from the planet.
>>322256858
BL isn't plagued with enemies that take forever to kill unless you exclusively shoot for crits
BL2 is a fucking chore to play through, mate
>>322259198
Ah shit, that sucks. I've had that happen to me with a few items in 2.
Playing a revolver Mordy at the moment, I'm gonna try git gud at Craw solos and hopefully find an Aries.
>Invader Nemesis
It was cool how you could get crazy combos like that in 1. Also cool that pearls meant something. I think they're too easy to get in 2, and most of them are actually worse than legendaries. Like I lost count of how many Storms I found.
>>322259954
>The parts to produce the printings need materials, which is shitty scrap from the planet.
...do you realize how the theoretical 3D printing works? It doesn't assemble guns from junk, it atomizes junk and then builds a gun out of atoms. Do you think junk atoms are gritty and scrappy?
Also I'm pretty sure not every gun is printed. Jacobs supposedly use real wood and take pride in manual manufacture.
>>322259972
Yeah, instead in BL1 you kill the same 3 types of bandits and 4 types of skags over and over again. Oh joy!
>>322259972
>BL2 is a fucking chore to play through, mate
Only if you're bad at the game
>>322260042
I always farm Craw on Lilith then splitscreen trade the items to whoever needs them.
I've beaten Craw with everyone, but if my goal is farming I do it on the character where I can get 5 kills in 20 minutes and never die.
Revolver Mordy is my favourite build in the game, closely followed by Shotgun Brick (made brokenly OP by the speed glitch).
>>322247020
I wanna show Athena my EXTREMELY sexy scar.
>>322260940
SCAR? What do you think this is, Call of Duty?
>>322256908
You wouldn't happen to know if there's a higher chance of getting a pearl from Crawmerax or farming the Lance Armory would you? I have three pearls, all from Craw, but only because I solely farmed him.
>>322261292
This gun seems pretty bad for a level 66 Pearl drop.
Then again, it's a combat rifle in BL.
>>322260940
Same. Such a qt 3.14
>>322261292
>back in the old days, when Tediore made rifles
>>322261453
Rifles were decent in 1, and they had some great legendaries like the Ogre, Draco and Destroyer.
>>322256363
I generally liked the sorta rugged look the guns had, and the fact that as you said, they didn't look like Frankenstein monstrosity's. I did love some new styles because the Hyperion loading animations were great, but BL1 pistols are among my favourite pistol designs in video games.
>>322241261
Are those meme quotes actually in the game? What the fuck
>>322261453
It's semi-automatic, has a scope worthy of a sniper, regenerates amo, super-fast reload, and is quite powerful in terms of damage for a Tediore, especially crits. It's my favorite so far.
>>322261542
Too bad she's confirmed lezbo
>>322261943
Yeah, but when a level 40 Masher revolver has pinpoint accuracy and one-shots every common enemy if you hit it in the crit spot... BL weapon balance was always flimsy.
>>322261737
yes, i took all of them from screenshots of said dialogs.
2 definitely had the better final boss though.
>>322250904
Did nothing wrong either.
>Interviewer: Wilhelm, you've risen to prominence as one of the foremost mercenaries in the galaxy. But you had humble beginnings, did you not? A life no different from any other. What spurred you down your path of ultraviolence? What confluence of events, what changing winds of circumstance and privilege led you to sit right here in front of me, dictating your autobiography?
>Wilhelm: As a kid I was good at fights.
>Interviewer: Let's move into later years. Puberty. The teenage years. A difficult time for anyone, perhaps more difficult for you, yes? Coming from a violent childhood, a broken home, possessing little intelligence: tell me, how did you get on with your peers? Take me inside your mind.
>Wilhelm: When I was a teenager I was good at fights.
>Interviewer: What about the man you are now? Who is Wilhelm the Enforcer? What drives him? What are his likes, his dislikes? Please give me an answer which does not include the word "fights".
>Wilhelm: I like steak and robots.
>Interviewer: This has been an extraordinary waste of time. What's the point of you, Wilhelm? What do you even want out of life?
>Wilhelm: I'm really good at killing people. I wanna be a robot.
Why is Wilhelm so based?
>>322261691
I would consider those machine guns, not rifles.
>>322262439
he is a simple man with simple needs
>>322262439
>that cut echo recording that implies jack poisoned wilhelm before he fought the vault hunters
He deserved better.
>>322262354
Yeah, Warrior looked pretty cool.
>>322262354
>used up all my revolver and sniper ammo, and all grenades
>>322263423
Yeah, and the fight was just more fun in general. And there was ammo around.
>>322262439
Oooh come to poppa!
If jack had not been betrayed by the merriff,moxxi,lilith and the others, could he have been a true hero?
>>322262439
Those were my personal emotions! I feel violated. Nobody can know I like steak!
>>322263530
>Jack was the hero all along
He had a hard life.
>>322263003
That ECHO is actually canon.
I think Burch said it was meant to be in the game, they didn't decide to cut it, it was a mistake. No idea why they didn't patch it.
It also explains why Wilhelm was so easy when he was hyped up to be unstoppable.
>Long time ago, my dad bought me a dog. His way of apologizing for mom's temper. Loved that dog. Took her to school, carried her on my shoulders. Held her close after mom was done yelling and growling and punching. Used to fall asleep with her in my arms.
>One day, my dog got bit by a frenzycrutch hiding in the tall grass. Eyes went red. Lips went blue. Acted normal otherwise, though. I thought maybe she was immune. Maybe I caught a break.
>That night, mom did her usual thing. She hurled a glass at me. I tried to catch it -- I'd gotten good at catching whatever she tossed -- but it bounced off my hand and fell on the dog. Not hard enough to hurt it, but... its eyes went even redder. Lips even bluer. Foam dripped from its jowls, and it lunged at me. Sunk its teeth into my neck. Over my own screams, I could hear dad whimpering. The dog snarling. And my mom... laughing. After dad patched me up, I grabbed a shovel and bashed the dog's brains out.
Damn son.
>>322264007
I remember saying "That's it?" when I fight fought Wilhelm because he went down so easily.
>>322264146
characters in TPS were much better than in previous games.
>>322263975
Really really hard.
>>322264310
Surprisingly enough, even Claptrap.
>>322264198
>Wilhelm kicked the shit out of the four lvl 69, legendary/pearl wielding vault hunters who saved the universe
>your lvl 17 ass shoots him a few times and he explodes
>>322264612
Actually felt bad for him at the end of voyage.
>>322264310
That's something I admired about TPS, with each instillation of the game you got characters with more depth culminating in an actually charming and likable cast of of characters you might have disliked from previous games.
>>322264198
Fucking Wilhelm
All that hype for an epic battle and he was piss easy
Also, Cod4
>>322264758
That's true, although I did kinda like the blank canvas feel that the characters had in 1. I think both ways can work.
Anyone notice how NPCs in the pre sequel gave super generic responses to aurelia? I know she was a dlc character but so was jack2 and he was fully fleshed out.
>>322263975
>>322264482
What if general Knoxx was the hero, would he saved Pandora from being a bandit-ridden shithole? He had a hard life too, especially considering the echos you found in the Pre-Sequel.
>>322247636
>abusing the fuck out of corrosive weapons in the knoxx DLC
>mfw first meeting the corrosive soldiers
>>322265034
It feels like they didn't know what to do or where to go with in terms of Aurelia in the world of the game. She was fun to play, but there was such a disconnect between her and all the other characters it was weird to notice.
Why is Lilith such an unlikable screw up? TPS puts her bitch level into maximum overdrive.
What's the best manufacturer in BL2 and why is it Bandit?
>>322252087
BERserker
Punching shit in the face whole Brick is having a tongue seizure was the best part of the game to be honest
>>322265241
I blame admiral mikey for ruining him. At least he fell down 30,000 flights of stairs.
>>322265415
Only good Bandit weapons are the Sawbar, Badaboom and Slagga.
>>322264758
playing baroness is also quite fun, her dialog is one of the best right after doppelganger and nisha.
>>322265339
No Roland to keep her grounded imo not that she wasn't turning into a major cunt with him there to begin with, but I think that ultimately without Roland she just had no cool
>>322265241
Bl1:Mordecai
Bl2:zer0 or krieg
TPS:Wilhelm or Jack2
>>322265684
Meant for>>322252087
I'm still mad they killed off scooter, sucks his VA got cancer
>>322238767
Borderlands 2 > Tales from the Borderlands > Borderlands: The pre-sequel > Borderlands 1
>>322266609I'm surprised I was attached enough I cried a little. Also I think it was a stroke that caused him to have trouble with speech and forced him into retirement
>>322266920
one of these isn't a game
>>322267004
Damn.
>>322267043
Pretty cool movie though.
First one was utterly mediocre, the rest even worse.
