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Post Your Decks
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:^)
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>people actually play Tim Buckley: The TCG
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>>322043767
>this meme again
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>>322044146
>facts are now memes
ebin
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>>322044509
>2/3 of the text is repeated on every Infernoid monster except dekatron so you dont need to read it every time
>this is somehow confusing for magic fags
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>>322042484
I'm gonna fuck that pudding
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>>322045121
do NOT fuck the pudding
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>>322044776
>basic logic and reading comprehension is somehow confusing for YGOfags
That's exactly the fucking problem, you fucking retard. If the same walls of text are repeated on entire sets of cards, why don't they use keywords for them?
Or at the very fucking least, why don't they put a newline for each effect so you can clearly see where the repeated text begins and ends?

Until you memorize the set, you still need to read the whole thing to see where it changes and if there's a difference in between. That's shit design and there are a million easy ways to fix it and dramatically increase the game's readability.
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>>322045643
because designing new keywords for each archetype means less reading the actual cards and more reading the rulebook

they added Excavate as a keyword and it needed a huge number of rulings. Thats fucking retarded.

>increase the games readability
if youre some retard mexican who gets confused by 3 sentences then you can fuck off.
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>>322046203
>because designing new keywords for each archetype means less reading the actual cards and more reading the rulebook
This is what reminder text is for. All the rules are always on the card, but in a smaller italic font so you can read it any time you need to but you can also instantly skip over it once you know the mechanic.

>they added Excavate as a keyword and it needed a huge number of rulings. Thats fucking retarded.
Because the game is broken, unclear, and poorly designed with tons of special cases, not because of keywords as a concept.

>if youre some retard mexican who gets confused by 3 sentences then you can fuck off.
Shitpost and piss your diaper all you want, more readability will always be better than less readability.
There's no excuse for it to be a single dense block of text when the problem is so easy to solve.
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>>322046739
>reminder text
so the same amount of text, but an extra keyword? Brilliant idea. Or are you so far up your ass that you really think that it wouldnt simply be better to remove the word Devoid and Ingest from that card and make the text normal
>keywords caused problems because the game is broken, unclear and poorly designed
yes please tell me how the game is broken and how that was what caused the need for new rulings. Special cases are the only time when card text needs to be very clear. Thats why they overhauled the way cards are written to make checking rulings less common, introducing keywords goes directly against that.
>there is no excuse to have a block of text
except that its the best way to handle cards with as much variation in card effects as Yugioh has. Adding more spaces would just mean smaller text
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i recently got into hearthstone and it's pretty good
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>>322047594
Don't bother arguing with buttfrustrated MTG fans.
They're all insecure as fuck about their card game because it has a bigger stigma even though its the card game "for adults'" and yugioh is "for kids".

Also mad their game is simpler
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>>322047919
>hearthstone
>good

Sacred-anon I never thought you would fall so far
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>>322047594
>so the same amount of text, but an extra keyword? Brilliant idea. Or are you so far up your ass that you really think that it wouldnt simply be better to remove the word Devoid and Ingest from that card and make the text normal
>One giant block of text with no font/size changes, no line breaks, no nothing is better and more readable than the individual effects split into separate text blocks and recurring text stylized differently
>Yugioh players are actually this fucking stupid

For your sake I seriously hope you're baiting me
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>>322048294
>no counter argument, just shitposting

sasuga magicbaby
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>>322048108
>People right now don't play Hearthstone just to use Pirate Paladin or Mimiron Rogue

The latter is pretty much the closest thing I could think of to my favorite and main Yugioh deck (pic related).
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>>322048108
it's much easier to get into than ygo nowadays
i don't have to make compromises to use cards that i think are cool
don't you judge me boy
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>>322048101
>Also mad their game is simpler
Complexity is not inherently a good thing.
Yugioh is "complex," but it's a very shallow game without much variety or strategy.
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>>322048497
>without much variety

lol delusional magicfags

>>322048469
But yugioh doesnt jew you if you try to play online
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>>322048497

Yeah, not like Magic, which definitely doesn't have a finite amount of deck types per format that are always better than the others.
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>>322048406
>If I ignore the argument, it doesn't exist
Spoken like a true fedora toting manbaby yugioh player
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Story Deck
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>>322048619
>jew you
i dunno, i've been sticking to casual matches until i can get a solid deck, and for the grand majority, save the odd strong card or two, the people i've been fighting are using playstyles i'm very familiar with and can react to easily
each to their own, though.
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>>322048619
>forced 5 monster and 5 spell/trap field limit
>every deck has access to the same generic field wipes and staple cards
>prebuilt archetypes with complex effects that are forced to only work in their intended deck type heavily curb variety and take creativity and skill out of deck building

lol delusional ygofags
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>>322048416
serious question how much time/money do i need to put into hearthstone in order to have a fun, competitive deck
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I want to molest the Puddingcess!
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>>322049058

Yep, definitely no such thing as archetypes in Magic. It's all about creativity, people definitely don't all just play the same shit.
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>>322049105
Well, it depends how far you want to go in either spectrum. My shitty Pirate Paladin deck that I dusted literally everything non-Paladin from my Arenas/Tavern Brawls/the occasional bought pack from IG currency just to buy a couple of Southsea Deckhands gets to roughly the same ranks as all my friends, who have sunk funds and have several different class decks and Legendaries and all that stuff. I still could use a bunch of Legendaries to further boost its power, but have yet to naturally unbox even one thus far (got a couple of golds though which is, y'know, nice). The Mimiron-Rogue deck that I've envisioned is really just that because I'd need like 100 packs to get everything necessary, more than likely.

I still enjoy messing with my Pirate buddies, though, but the amount of niche decks is lacking. It's still worth going F2P on if you find something interesting (Bolster Warrior? Beast Druid?)
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>>322049323
>Yep, definitely no such thing as archetypes in Magic
From yugioh's perspective of "archetype," no, there aren't. Way to prove you have no idea what you're talking about.

Your card for example, doesn't refer to another specific set of cards by name and only work with them. There is no specific archetype or set of cards that needs to work with, that works with anything that uses artifacts, which is incredibly loose.
A better yugioh parallel for that is cards that refer to types or attributes, which are not archetypes.

Take this for example, it's 100% useless unless you're running a deck that uses the specific handful of elemental hero monsters. THAT limits variety.
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Who /kozmo/ here?
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>>322049517
I'm not sure why people think a TCG based on a shitty manga series is any good.

Any ideas as to why?
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>>322049105
>>322049769
Also should mention that money-wise I've spent nothing on HS and manage to make due, and time-wise the game supports only short bursts of play per day since making gold outside of your daily quests is a huge fucking pain (for reference, you get anywhere from 40-60 gold on average for a quest, after that you have to WIN, not play, three games at a time to get an extra 10 gold a pop, really not worthwhile). You pretty much rub your quests out, do your weekly Tavern Brawl win for a free pack, and if you have enough funds either buy a pack, or if you feel confident, draft an arena deck (you build a random deck and fight people with other random decks, costs IC or real money to play though but if you win enough in a single run you offset the costs nicely)
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>>322049975
>>322049517
The manga wasn't even about cards. The anime was made to sell the shit to baka gaijin children. I guess a good portion of /v/ is early 20 somethings who want to relive their childhood (or actual children), playing a shitty, broken card game because they watched the cartoon.
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>>322050358


>anons who talk out there ass
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>>322049859

The Yugioh definition of archetype is card that are designed to work together, often directly referencing the name of an archetype but not always. To give a recent example, here's Bug Emergency.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Bug_Emergency

Nowhere on the card are Digital Bugs referenced, but it is very obviously a part of the Digital Bugs archetype because it synergizes with that deck's gameplan and was released with the other Digital Bug cards. In the same way that Magic has clearly defined archetypes of sets of cards that inherently go well together, such as with Affinity. Go onto any list of Magic decks, and you'll see the same kinds of decks over and over again, because the game is built so that certain cards go well with certain other cards, creating clearly defined deck types that, in your own words, "limits variety". Outside of your own tabletop, you're unlikely to find someone playing noggles, whereas archetypes such as Infect, Affinity, Merfolk, Goblins, Slivers, and so on are going to be relatively common (some more than others).

Basically, you have no idea what you're talking about with either game.
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>>322050592
>anons who are too underage to know the difference between their and there
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Who /cybers/ here?
When Infinity is out we top tier.
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Might as well ask here since /dng/ has its head up its ass:
Are there any modern rock bounce/rock stun decks similar to the Exodd/Sphinx structure deck from years ago? I have a friend that wants to get back into the game and loves decks with flips and high defense.
Closest thing I could find was Koa'ki Meru, but that's old now.
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>>322051129
Not currently no, only bounce back thats relevant is Pleiades
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>>322042484
Playing /Monarchs/. At the moment using Frognarch and will switch to pure Monarchs when the structure deck releases here. Tribute summoning is fun.
MAI HUSBANDO
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>finally try out Super Quantums
>mfw first summoning Magnus
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Need a replacement tuner.
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>>322050664
Here's the difference.
In yugioh, the archetypes strictly force the cards to go together at least 50% of the time. In MTG, the amount of cards that do that are close to zero. Pic related is the only real example I can think of, but I'd say not even that is really comparable because it's just those three cards instead of a larger set that makes up an entire intended deck like with yugioh's typical archetypes.

Also, beyond just quantity, the "archetype" cards in magic that just work stronger together but aren't forced typically have a lot more freedom and allow for a lot more unconventional combinations. With yugioh you might find some specific creative gimmick combinations that work with looser archetype cards, but it's not really something you can freely combine and splash together and make work like in MTG.

>Basically, you have no idea what you're talking about with either game.
Right back at ya, pal.
I've been playing both games for about 8 years, I have friends into each of them.
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>>322051620
What any decks in general that are good at defense and/or flip effects?
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>>322052916
>I've been playing both games for about 8 years, I have friends into each of them.

Clearly you're a fucking casual then.
>b-but I go x-2 at events
kek
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How do i pendulum?
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>>322052916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayotnmYhBBw

9 Archetypes right here
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>>322051129
I have a super-secret Dueling Network rage deck that involves the combo of set Stone Statue of the Aztecs -> Ojama Trio -> Battle Mania to force them to whack your statue for 12,000 damage.
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post you fav deck people.
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>>322053625
Infernity
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>>322053625
My favorite. its hilarious seeing people call them broken and rage quitting
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and that way the toxic MTG community just filled with shitposts a nice thread...
Anyways, i love hieratics
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>>322053528
What is your point?
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>>322053824
>toxic
It's true, Yugioh really is the same garbage as LoL
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>>322053625
it will always be Harpies
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>>322053625
>>322053742
>>322053784

utopia for the win
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>>322053916
That explains the unforgivable autism of MTG players.

Thank you for the enlightenment.
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>>322053953

you mean herpies?
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>>322053836
You said its not something you can freely splash together, the video showed 9 archetypes that the dude put together into a deck.Yu-Gi-Oh has a lot of freedom with its cards, its up to the person making the deck to come up with the idea for what they wanna do.

I also like how whenever YGO threads get made MTG always gets inevitably brought up for some reason
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>>322053625
I love Monarchs, but Formula Monarch and Perfect Circle Monarch were my favorite variants.
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>Literally in any other YGO thread we bitch about how Konami needs to iron down the rules and how a keyword book in starter decks would go a long way to fixing card text walls
>The second a MTGfag shitposts and mentions it faggot sperg out saying how they like walls of text and incredibly poor rules
Stop being so hipster. The timing rules alone are a massive clusterfuck and there are tons of case by case basis on how concurrent triggers work.
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fuck you fags who keep arguing just post some god damn magic cards!
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>>322054228

Yes, you MTG players need to make your own threads instead of coming in here to post your cancer cards.
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>>322054284
why does everyone love monarchs?
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>>322054360

Go back to MTG you faggot
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>>322054529

They look cool, and for nostalgiafags they don't involve any extra deck summoning methods.
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>>322054423
Where did you get the idea that i play MtG after i made a post about yugioh.
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is the obligatory insecure MTG baby here already
is Raiza anon here already
is it time for lore and best girl?
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>>322054228
I don't see what that proves, I never said it's impossible to do anything out of archetypes. I said you have less options when you do and less options across the entire library since far fewer of them allow for things like this.
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>>322054691

ops ignore >>322054423 i made a mistake.
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>>322054360
Text walls are whatever, what are you going to do, reprint everything with casualized vocabulary?

I do agree on how fucking timing works though, that shit does get pretty convoluted.
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someone post a ojama decklist
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>>322054228
>Why do people bring up the better game when people talk about a similar but inferior game?
>Why do people discuss things? Why do people care about quality?
Are you retarded?
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>>322055071

You would think if it was so clearly better, you would make a thread to discuss it rather than shitposting in a thread about another game. Unless you're just really insecure and need validation about how elite you are.
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>>322055071
>my subjective taste gives me carte blanche to slap my dick over discussions people with a different subjective taste have created

wow lod
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>>322055071
hey
no one cares
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>>322055276

About a year ago it seemed like mixed 3/4 axis was going to be a thing in the meta, but then it ended up fizzling out. Like with the Volcanics hype that lasted like 3 days.
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>>322055071
As you can see all it did was start people arguing and shit posting instead of actually posting their favorite archetypes.

I also never asked a question either, i just made an observation you autist. Learn to read
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>>322054769
That shit makes my dick rock fucking hard. Anymore of these?
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>>322053916
really bad example, both games are garbage, DOTA 2 is not even close to its predecesor. Go home boy
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>>322055050
You prefer beast-Ojama OTK, or Light/Dark Ojama Synchros? I've got both.
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>>322055269
There are multiple mtg threads anon. On the correct board for it.

The only way to have a good YGO thread on /v/ is to have an actual purpose or it just turns into shitpositng like when OP tried to make a dumb ass general.
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>>322053625
Cybers senpai
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>>322055393

but I can still beat other deck, even the meta, without 3/4 axis.

I just think more people need to give these guys some love
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>>322055552

oh god the cancer, please leave XD
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>>322054529
Their designs are cool, are some of the best cards from the GX era, they promote a aggressive and control heavy playstyle, tributing the opponents monsters is fun, less reliance on the extra deck especially for the newer MegaMonarch decks, and are a deck to have seen meta-relevance more than once. They were also the first deck I've ever won tournaments higher than locals with. Raiza-Lock was good shit.

>>322054769
I love Yugi lore. Gagagigo's and Grephers are great.
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I got some Christmas money and want to buy a new deck, which one should I get?

http://strawpoll.me/6408992

The only decks I have IRL so far are Vylons and D.D.s.
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>>322055539

Plenty of these threads have been made, and they are usually nice and civil so long as some autist doesn't start posting about Magic for no reason.
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>>322049323
I actually only play Rogue decks in MTG and always do well competitively. My Greenie Weenie 17 land rush deck in Innastrad rotation was practically unheard of but always top 2'd at FNM. Try harder Yugiohfag. Literally the only fun Yugioh deck is an Exodia deck.
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>>322055893
>Ignkight
FUCK
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>>322055447
post both
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>>322056060

Your FNM sounds like garbage, sorry that you have to deal with that. But I would love to see you bring any rogue deck to a GP, that would be funny.

Also
>the deck that's literally just playing a bunch of spells and either drawing into Exodia in one turn or fizzling out
>fun
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This is my brotherhood deck, what do you guys think?
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>>322054030
>lel he has autism

Nice retort, now go back to playing your baby-ass game.
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>>322056341
That's nice, dear.
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>>322056060
Do you mean the draw until you get exodia? Cause there are 3 kinds of exodia decks
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>>322056305

There is no good reason not to play Leopard and the maximum amount of Spirit.
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>>322056483

At first I just wanted it to be a level 4 Firefist deck but I really like the level 3 so I just threw them in there without thinking.
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>>322055893
Buy 3 of the Geargia structure deck, staples, 2 Karakuri saizan, 1 karakuri nishipachi, 1 birdman, 2 Burei, 1 Bureido, and a fuckhueg amount of R4NKs and Level 7/8 syncros and make my current favorite deck.
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>>322054769
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>>322057465

to op pls nerf.
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Had a D.D. deck a few years back before I dropped it, but since the power creep in this game is ridiculous, it's utter trash now.
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>>322054769
>no Baou
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>>322042484
why do people play it even with the powercreep ruining it
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>>322058149
>I don't play the game, but I'm an expert on it and why it's bad now
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>>322058235

>powercreep

nigga it's been up and down for years now
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>not playing a Dark Magician deck irl

After all that Blue eyes love that just happened I really hope DM is next in line.
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>>322058235
Because retards like you keep mistaking new features and meta shifts for power creep. Beatsticks on average are weaker than they were years ago, and the rule of 1900 still holds.
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>>322059050
>he hasn't seen the DM girl archetype coming out
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>>322060202

I have and they're not Dark Magician or worth caring about.

Shit equivalent in power to the new Blue eyes Synchro and Blue eyes alt dragon
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Any tips for a Greydle deck? So far I'm doing good, but anyone have any cards that work well with it?
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>>322058298
He didn't judge the game at all. He just noted that his deck is trash in this day and age, which would be correct since anything not released in the last year would have a difficult time keeping up.
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>>322058235
Powercreep is just yugioh's way of format rotation. This is why shit gets banned at all; it's not because a particular deck is too strong, it's because a particular deck is strong enough to challenge new products.
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>>322058235
same reason people play Vanguard
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It fells Good just so summon this and OTK like crazy
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>>322049954
>45 cards
>Cyber Dragons without anything to Contact Fusion into
>3 Wicked Witch
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