>Stand in fire
>Does no damage
ITT: Shit in games that bothers you
>>322026110
>stand in fire
>does damage but a static damage
>your hp goes up to 1.1 mil
>fire seemingly does no damage
thanks WoW
>get shot 100 times
>health just regenerates
The FPS genre needs to disappear
>fall from large height
>land perfectly with no damage
>>322026110
>shoot redbarrel
>explodes
>face away from a cliff
>attack an enemy
>your character decides to fling himself off the cliff
>>322027241
>Fall from same distance + an extra inch
>Character dies instantly
>>322026804
>implying that only happens in FPS games.
They tested making "realistic" gun wounds in games and people fucking hated it ending with those games being flops.
Turns out it actually sucks having your character be limited by full realism. Its just not fun(the main point of games.) If you want a realistic gun wound experience go shoot yourself in the foot and hop around in agony.
>>322026804
You know what I'd love to see? an FPS with realistic damage and injuries. Not just "click to heal" shit, but actual "your arm is broken now" shit. Then after the battle is done everyone has to spend time and money healing up. You can switch characters at that point, but your local battle has an effect globally. Fight too poorly for too long and your side runs out of fresh meat so now you have to redeploy the wounded people with injuries.
>>322026110
>>322026482
>>322026804
>>322027241
COUNTER STRIKE IS FOR YOU
>>322029194
sounds good on paper, but it would suck and not go over well in execution.
The most important part gaming "success" is developing a large and passionate community. A game that alienates thousands "casuals" in favor of having 20 "pros" circejerking each other in the lobby is just a retarded idea from a business standpoint, and no developer wants to release a guaranteed flop. Likewise no players want to play a game with no other players, unless its a single player game of course.
>be in the middle of fast-moving leap attack with a giant hammer or some shit
>enemy blows his nose in your direction
>all momentum cancelled and your character staggers backwards
>stand on oven
>health drains insanely fast
>be scared of fire now
>have to go through fire for a secret
>expect damage
>nothing
fuck you Blood
If it makes sense, I'm fine with it. If I'm playing as an armored space warrior that tanks weapon fire like a motherfucker, I'd expect to be able to walk through a bit of fire without dropping dead.
If I'm playing some dude in jeans and a t-shirt, then it's bullshit.
Same with health regen. If you want a game with regen powers, at least give it a reason to have them. Some wannabe realistic warshooter with wolverine-soldiers though, that's just being lazy.
>>322026110
>>322027241
Damage is a ridiculous concept anyway, because a "realistic" portrayal of say falling from a large height would be death or, at best, several broken bones.
Point being, realism in video games is not a noble goal.
>grazed fire
>suddenly engulfed in fire and take DoT for the next minute
>raid member walks into fire
>raid explodes
>Stand on fire
>Fuck, I can't stop flinching and it hurts
>Oh shit, the man who started the fire is now throwing more fireballs at me
>All this fire
>no time to stop, drop, and roll.
Fuck you Zombie Volgin.
>the cutscene is noticeably compressed 720p or some shit
>it could have been rendered in-game due to the scene using no new assets
c o m e
o n
>>322028953
battlefield 3
>vault over a rock
>die
>vault over a concrete ledge
>die
>vaulting over anything
>die
Granted they fixed it now, but 2011 was a frustrating year.
>on top of high building
>run and jump off
>just roll and stand up
>suffer no damage at all
>>322030593
>locked at 30 FPS
>>322028714
FUCKING FORWARD R1 ESTOC GOD DAMN IT
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>>322029086
well, I'm not the dude you responded to, but I have a response. I hate regenerating health personally. I think it takes out almost all of the tension. I don't need a super realistic "bullet wound simulator" game, that sounds stupid as shit. But look at games like Stalker, Half Life, or EYE Divine Cybermancy. They kill you fairly quickly, have pretty good health systems, and do a good job of replicating a small amount of real world stress in a fictional medium. I don't know. It just always seems so stupid to me to immediately recover from bullet wounds. I also like the tension that comes from having to play smarter and better as your health goes down while waiting to find a healing item. That is a feeling no game with regenerating health has ever given me
>after hundreds of hour finally beat difficult game
>girls still don't want to suck my dick
this is the bullshit that is killing this industry
>>322031302
Health kits force you to treat HP as a commodity but make you play almost assuredly more stealthy.
A lot of CUHRAYZEE games want to turn you into some kind of turbo-badass berserker and thus this is where the regenerating health became useful because you'd get your ass beat from a ton of sources ritually.
In a shooter/survival scenario, it makes sense to implement. Even if it triggers autism due to the less than 100 value in the HP readout or whatever.
>>322030602
>get into a tank
>survive multiple direct hits from ATGMs and RPG
>park damaged tank in some sheltered place
>fix it to full efficiency
>get inside
>run into 2ft high single wooden post
>tank exploded
fuck you dice
>>322031928
girls cant suck something that is not existing
>>322026110
>walk into spikes from the side
>you die catastrophically
>>322029687
Just make it so you switch characters. In Xcom your guys get wounded and have to recover but that didn't kill the game
>>322032247
>>322030081
dam son
>You can walk through a path of spikes
>you can slowly crawl down into the spikes safely
>jumping on them though, that will kill you
>spikes also kill enemies that jump on them.
>play old game that was originally displayed at 480p
>runs perfectly at double the FPS at 1080p on new computers
>cutscenes are pre-rendered and scaled up at 480p with the same models
>gameplay looks infinitely better
Fuck you, Psychonauts.
>>322026110
you mean fallout series?
>Drowning causes damage over time
>Drinking water heals drowning damage
Mario being able to fire fireballs underwater.
>>322026110
>Grand Strategy game where you can be anything other than the king
>convince him to attack a specific planet
>after months of fighting in orbit we've nearly won the ground war
>strategy council is held
>outvoted by the other 3 dumbfuck AI generals who decide its better to stop the siege and attack a planet held by a much stronger empire halfway across the map
>play WWE game
>all entrances and victory celebrations locked to 30fps
It's so fucking jarring every time, made worse by it being rendered in game so what the fuck were they thinking? Also PC can't do facegen.
>>322032678
>game 2 gets a 1080p update
>game 1 doesn't
>>322033670
>Game 3 gets a PC release
>Game 1 gets a PC port
>Game 2 gets nothing
>Game 2 is the best one.
>>322026110
>Be on fire
>Take damage over time
>Jump into water
>Still on fire, still damaged
>>322028714
Because modern games evolved past 4 buttons.
Contextual controls must go.
>99% chance to hit
>miss
>>322035305
>85% chance to hit
>miss more than 15% of the time
>>322035305
>VATS melee
>"95"%
>never failed to hit in years
hmm. Surely, I must critically fail eventually.
>>322035543
85% each time, it's not like swinging more will make each more likely to hit. You can get unlucky multiple times
> stands on moving vehicle
> dies
>>322035675
>VATS
>90% chance to hit
>clips a tree
Fuck VATS
>>322035305
>100% chance to hit
>miss two times in a row
>>322035726
>get on stationary vehicle
>vehicle moves and you simply slide off
even Red Faction Guerrilla let you turn into a ragdoll to get wedged in the vehicle's folds for that thrill
>Character joins party
>He has a different level than the rest
>Have to spend the entire game with uneven levels in the party
>enemy claded im power armour the size of the fucking truck
>2inch thick tree sapling in front of him
>"unable to shoot. line of sight obstructed"
>Gimmicky NVIDIA bullshit like MemeWorks™ that has 0 visual improvement but still drops you into single digit FPS
>Game gets localize nobody asked for
>Gets released pretty quick
>Game everyone been asking for to be localize
>Either doesn't get released or just waiting for fucking ever for it
Besides Nintendo who does this?
>>322026110
>play vidya
>have fun
>>322036318
>NVidia FLEX
God damn it looks so god damn stupid. God himself turns that shit off because even he can't stand the damn bullshit.
>>322036019
I'm talking about Borderlands 2, happened today
>killed "protectors" of crate-transporter van
>it stopped to let me rob it
>when I'm on top wild enemy car approaches and hits the van from behind
>I fall on top of that car
>sudden death - 35000$ for nothing
>>322036581
That's bullshit, you died from some other reason.
When we were playing 3 player co-op we often used a single buggy car for transportation with the third guy standing in front of it and being pushed.
>>322033670
KotOR 2 just did this right?
>>322036318
>>322036470
L i t e r a l l y only exists to make things harder for AMD to play gaem. "Progress" my fucking hairy asshole
Killing Floor 2 is the only opportunity I'd want to see the guts and blood of Flex™, but to me it looks like a quilt made of pudding and quantum geometries.
>headshot is instakill in single player
>have to empty half a clip into head in multiplayer
>>322026110
>Walk over spikes
>Take damage
>Enemies walk over the spikes
>No damage
>>322031930
yeah, actually, that is a really good fucking point. I haven't really looked at it like that. I guess it can be forgivable, but my big, big immersion killer is a lack of context for design choices, or else design choices that directly go against the rest of the tone of the game. For example, I don't mind if I have regenerating health if I'm a cyborg, or if I can jump a hundred feet or fall ten stories as long as it's presented in some way that is consistent with the rules of the game world. But in modern "realistic" shooters why on earth can you just regenerate like that? It takes any tension out of the game for me. I still think you can have a really fast paced and intense action game that has hit points, and it just makes it more fun, for me. Again, half life or eye. I think those are good examples. I don't take cover too too much, and I'm constantly moving and shooting a large amount of enemies, but I still have to think about what I'm doing.
>Instead of an actual impassable wall it's a short pile of junk that makes up an invisible wall
>Enemies attacking one by one
>>322032491
sands of time, honestly, did this really fucking well
>pass by area with a shit ton of HP restores
>can't pick up any because already full
>leave area
>can't return
>>322026110
>stand in damage
>does no fire
>a game with melee mechanics
>in 1st person it looks amazing , fluid and animations are top tier
>3rd person it looks like utter shit, like it was made by some 12 yo
>character depicted as a genius
>in game ai of said character sucks assmitsuru pls
>>322036835
It's not bullshit cos that happened, I fell on the enemy car that hit the van, not on mine. (also happened by jumping on the van, which moves by itself after a while)
>boss slashes with his sword
>hits you from BEHIND
>remaster
>cut content
>no new content
>shot in the head
>still alive
>>322037092
For the sake of casualization, healthpacks and recording health changes take up time that could be used for more shooty.
You can still have HP accounting in less sneeki breeki games. In some non-shooters, the HP regeneration can be a miniscule gift for avoiding danger for lengths at a time (meaning you ought to use a healing source like a pack or a team medic).
There are so many variables like enemy damage and player abilities that change the argument around per case. All I know is I'm pissed off that Fallout 4 lacks per-limb stimpack usage and other changes that push complete linearization of health.
>>322037106
"hmm, I recognize this arrangement of cinder blocks"
...
"aha, the 'border'"
>>322038019
>implying more pixels isn't new content
>having to play with other characters to unlock something for the character you actually use
hero armour can go to hell
>2002 game optimised for compilation
>2004 game not optimised
>>322038754
What the fuck are the bunny ears even from?
>>322038903
smush brus
>Rip the boss a new asshole and beat him to a bloody pulp
>Cutscene
>You're exhausted and tired
>The boss laughs and runs away
>>322039007
Obviously they're in Smash but they don't originate there.
>stand in fire, which obviously you should not fucking do in any circumstance ever
>therefore move out from it
>die
WOOOOOW
>>322037106
>>322039071
>>322039007
>>322038903
Majora's Mask
>>322038903
As far as I know they originate from the bunny hood mask from Majora's Mask, but I'm not sure if an earlier Zelda game has them
>>322039071
Oh, it's just a reduction of the bunny hood from Ocarina of Time
>>322038518
>having to use other characters to continue the game
I just wanted to play impa in the world map thing.
>beat game
>credits roll
>Limited supply boxes with a single random item in it
>High health, low ammo
>99% of them half health pickups
>Vice versa
>>322039328
Seriously, everybody in HW has 10/10 aesthetics.
>>322039482
>credits roll
>interrupted by secondary protag
>last minute gameplay>counts toward your score
>>322034834
I think I know what game you're talking about
>>322035675
95% means you may be in the way of a wall or anything so that's the "5%"
fallout is still a shit game
>>322026110
>be a pyromaniac
>mages cant put up with this shit so they cast a spell where I am eternally in flames, but can not die
>after a while come to enjoy it
>>322039694
Sounds like Fable desu senpai
>find magnum rounds
>magnum is full
>can never return to the room
>>322031930
This reminds me a lot of the idea of losing everything on death in an MMO which has pretty much gone away. Or even losing experience. Or a notable amount of gold...Anything really.
In old games it made you much more cautious. You really wanted to not die, so you had to take less risks. Health potions were a resource, grouping with people combined your strengths so you'd both be less likely to die and challenge things you wouldn't. Now these games are treated like singleplayer steamrolls so you can't even die in the first place, but if you do it doesn't matter. Though it's terrible it's also the only way to keep the experience the same for people who can't find groups since the games are entirely back loaded.
>>322026804
>>322026804
Why has no game ever done "health" as good as Syphon Filter?
>2 bars, standard health/armor bar and danger bar
>danger bar indicates how accurate of a lock enemies have on you and is affected by terrain, rolling, weapon, etc
>bullets do a fuck ton of damage, headshots and fire are instakills for everyone
>games still manage to have god tier boss fightsif only the series was still alive
>accidentally choose "No" when asked if you want to drop a key
>takes up an inventory slot for the next 45 minutes
>Mountain Blade
>decide to become a king and start my own kingdom
>raid through the lands and recruit more lords to my cause
>start giving out fiefs, evenly
>-10 relation to everyone but the lord I gave it to
>eventually I have -100 relation with my own lords and they abandon my kingdom
fucking selfish pricks
>you already understand a piss simple 'puzzle' and are going about solving it
>character shouts out blatant hints about how to solve it
>>322037335
>game has collectibles/secrets hidden in levels
>notice one item in some room
>main objective tells to go through a door
>you can't go back, the door just fucking shuts down eternally
fuck games that do this shit
>>322040590
I can't be sure if the Ocarina of Time ice cavern block-shuffle was really hard and I felt really good about solving it...
or I was just a preteen who sucked at it
>>322040590
>optional in-universe hint system
>gives hints just good enough to nudge
>use it enough and they outright tell you what to do
>>322035675
>VATS melee
>does a super ling headlock 'finishing move'
>enemy takes no damage when it finishes
>>322029194
>>322029687
State of Decay
not the best game, but pretty enjoyable for some 10-20 hours
>>322040923
ooooh, maybe that's how the 5% it got in
Sneaky sneaky
that might have happened to me... but I think it was just High-Quality Bethesda Coding, not the alleged 5% doing something
>>322035305
dem XCOM feels
>>322035543
>fail to make an awkward jump three times in an action game with shit platforming
>"Would you like to lower the combat difficulty?"
>20% chance not the whack yourself with a melee attack
>Whack yourself 4 times in a row
>action game with stealth mechanics has crouch button
>can't crouch under attacks to dodge
>point a shotgun right in the enemies face
>90% chance of hitting
>miss
And that's why i stopped playing dragonfall
>>322039686
Hello there DMC4.
