Why do more people prefer Persona over SMT?
>>321850161
Mainline is not that good.
>>321850161
Persona has better story
>>321850161
Waifus
Because Nocturne wasn't very good and the following games are handheld exclusives.
Normies play it because IT'S SO JAPANESE LOL THE KID'S GAY OH MAN THOSE FEELS
Persona was crafted from the ground up to be more... marketable and accessible, we could say. Greater focus on story and characters, the abandonment of the first person dungeon crawling aspect... these sorts of things.
>>321850161
People don't actually like to play videogames, it's why lets plays are so popular.
>>321850581
Demons are much better waifus than the likes of Yukari and Chie.
>>321850161
Persona is more clear, and has a more engaging story. From the start you know what you are doing, and have good reasons why. They are also largely easier, and you wont have many moments of just being completely stuck.
SMT, by comparison, can seem a bit overwhelming.
Some people just don't know any better. We have to teach them.
How to into SMT
>>321850161
Man I really don't like strange journey. I keep restarting because the story seems really interesting but something about the dungeon design or combat just keeps making me drop it, i'm not sure what it is
I prefer SMT but I hate first person and nocturne/4 both kinda meh desu
Story and characters, which is bizarre because while Persona focuses more on them I didn't really find either of these things good in the Persona games I played. I guess just having them be prominent is enough to make them more popular regardless of quality.
I like both
>>321851445
>combat
Probably demon coop and how worthless it is.
>>321851445
It's the combat most likely, unless you don't like dungeon crawlers. But then you have to ask why you like SMT in the first place.
>>321850161
While both series aren't very good (only hipsters, fedoras and people who haven't played SMT would say otherwise), Persona has more mass appeal. Strange Journey is alright.
>>321851808
Not him but that's kind of what kills SJ for me
I really wish it had Press Turn
>>321851945
>press turn integrated 3ds remake never
>>321851241
I guess play Strange Journey or IV, since they're the easiest to obtain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnH19zIIL2Y
>>321851241
don't
Self insert
>>321852578
>IV
Javelin rain or blast arrow?
Mainline uses same boring chaos/law/neutral routes formula every time. Its old and lazily delivered.
>>321852895
Pretty much
The whole hurrr god is bad lucifer is good stick loses its charm fast
>>321853114
>lucifer is good
>>321852615
god this game had amazing music
>>321853114
>lucifer is good
Why is Raidou forgotten the most when his games are the best?
>>321854142
Drakengard is a better action game than Raidou is
>>321854142
Because nobody cares about games that take place in the turn of the century orient, see, Shadow Hearts
>>321851445
>>321851454
>>321851808
>>321851945
>>321852218
N-N-N-N-NO-NOCTURNEB-BABIES!!!!!!!
SJ CAN DO NO WRONG!!!!!
Why do people say demon co-op is worthless? It's practically essential outside of the final boss.
>>321854395
cry me a river SJwarrior
>>321850161
The urge relive a high school time they missed out on.
Waifus to compensate for a lack of contact with women in real life.
At least thats what I gathered from playing Persona4.
Fuckers definitely dont play it for the gameplay.
Now, I dont think that proper SMT games have the greatest gameplay eiter, but at least it tries to be a game series, not some shitty visual novel high school waifu simulator with a dungeon crawling minigame.
>>321850161
Persona was designed to be an entry point for people that aren't familiar with the kind of RPG that SMT is. Persona is a lot more manageable, and it does a pretty good job at having a hook to keep you interested.
My only gripe with Persona back then was that it just seemed like they half-assed the games. Now I know that it was due to a severe lack of budget, thats why the games look like glorified PS1 games.
Now that Persona has caught fire and Atlus is banking in alot more on it, I hope they don't skimp on making P5 a quality game.
>>321854210
Fucking savage anon.
>>321854453
because most of the time the best healers for your level are all a certain alignment and its better to break co-op for them rather than settle for a sub par healer
>>321854572
Yeah...so? Have 2 demons of your alignment and a healer that isn't. 3/4 is still utilizing demon co-op.
>>321854395
>not acknowledging a game's flaws
You're not space marine material.
>>321854453
>you deal an additional 100~ish at best damage when in press turn you get more options with the added turn.
To add to this, the enemy doesn't get coop.
>>321854265
True. I love Shadow Hearts too. It's atleast as good as FF but it's rarely talked about.
>>321854890
Well sure, the system isn't as fun or well designed as press turn, but it's still essential within the game it is designed for.
Saying that demon-coop is worthless does not mean that it sucks. It means that it has no significant impact on how you play.
>>321855106
That extra damage is pitiful and near negligible.
>>321855179
In a boss fight, with 3/4 or 4/4/ of the same alignment you'll be doing double damage if everyone has the boss' weakness.
>>321855258
I was doing that until ouroboros, but the coop was barely getting to 80 at times so I just never bothered afterwards and came out just fine.
>>321850161
Persona appeals with it's "weeb simulator" aspect. It's for the large group of people who aren't patient enough for VNs, but still enjoy waifus, fake friends, etc.
SMT is literally for autists, gameplay wise. Aside from the monsters the art is never that good so all the games tend to be boring looking. Not to mention that the three routes are incredibly simplistic. Neutral is always going to be the best choice, because according to SMT you're a no-fun fascist if you go Law, but a psychopath if you pick Chaos. /v/ complains about black and white morality all the time, but SMT is the worst at it.
>>321850161
i've played a couple SMT titles and i'd say that a lot of it suffers from doing nothing new with itself. besides throwing around buffs and poking at weak spots, combat just turns into a clockwork grind. endgames are pretty awful since it's just a race towards who can get the most buffs/megidos and i have no fucking idea why the devs haven't addressed this. sj probably has the best pacing i've seen except for that god-awful garden dungeon.
highest selling point for me is just collecting and fusing demons
smt's stories are pretty bland and uninspired it's impressive how much they've dished out the same storylines with different paint for so long. persona at least embraces some interesting themes and has some fun characters.
Devil Summoner>mainline>any other spinoff>Persona
Shin megami tensei remake when?
>>321857089
why would they remake it
>>321857616
Because it's old as fuck, plus would look great in 3D with Nocturne style graphics.
>>321857616
>>321857849
I just want a better map.
>>321850581
This.
Weebs are casual and only eat up anything had waifus. Nothing new
Same reason why fags on this board like Neptunia.
Waifu's.
How badly will they fuck up Winter of Rebirth?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7seKdWa--G8
At least it looks like it's got a little Elizabethservice.
>>321858639
Someone else actually cares about this movie? I thought only the Japanese cared.
I'm impatiently waiting for the subbed version of movie #3.I can't wait for the soundtracks to be released as well.
>>321850161
Waifus.
>>321858639
I know the first two movies were badly condensed in some parts where they should've have been, but I can't help getting excited for this one.
>Spending time with my friends, I feel I finally started living.;_;
>>321858639
>persona 2 still doesn't have an anime or movie
>persona 4 got 2
why fucking live
>>321859561
I thought the first one was pretty bland but I really liked the second one.
>>321859790
>no DDS anime
>Oh man Persona is so shit why dont people play the superiot SMT series am I right?
>By the way I only played IV
People relate to Persona, 4 in particular
Personal problems n shit
>>321858639
DUB
WHEN?
>>321859934
It's been a while since I watched the second one and I'm tired as hell so I don't even remember what I thought of it.
Fuuka's Japanese voice is sex though.
>>321859957
Blu-ray for Movie #3 is coming out 20th of January, so sometime after that I guess.
Movie #4 is being shown on the 23rd of January.
I could be wrong though.
>>321860252
He said dub. And the answer is never, nor do we really need one. The Japanese cast is superior anyway.
>>321860323
I completely missed that.
Yeah, probably never then.
At least we'll most likely get subbed versions.I love the English cast though
>>321860446
Do the BDs come with english subs or...?
>complaining about Law-Chaos being extremes
>so bleak
>where the characters, mang
I find that fun tbqh
>>321859935
Sounds like you are projecting your anecdotal experience onto the community are large friend
>>321850161
Because in persona if you find a waifu she's with you the whole game. In SMT you find a waifu and strap her to a jar of snakes and she becomes a yeti monster.
>>321860629
I don't know.
I do know Movie #2 is subbed on Netflix and I watched Movie #1 subbed online, so it's likely we'll at least get some form of subtitles. Whether they're fan subbed or official.
I assume by BD, you meant Blu-ray disc.
>>321861096
Well, yeah. What'd you think I meant? Bloody Dicks?
>>321861468
People shorten everything anon, how am I supposed to know?I got it, I just wasn't really sure I was right.
But yeah, it's a safe bet that we'll get a subbed version of both movies. At least I hope.
>you will never play a SMT spinoff as engaging as DDS again
just fuck my shit up desu
at least IV Final has a chance of being goodat least of being a bit different
I'm surprised Devil Survivor never caught on. I assume it's because DeSu2 anime was utter trash
Who /mad/ here?
>No major changes to the combat systems since Nocturne
>Press Turn is literally almost 13 years old
>Wizardry style classic MT combat is almost 30 years old
>Most changes they've added to these systems like Smirk and One More Turn have been shite
>3 very similar games (SMT IV: Final, Persona 5, and le hashtag game) are being released next year and make the series feel oversaturated at this point
>SMT: IV opened up multiple cans of worms for the series, the worst of which being le pay to win DLC
Next games in the series are gonna have to shake some shit up cause shit's starting to become formulaic and going in a bad direction, T B H
People really should specific Persona 3+ in this.
1 and 2 aren't really distinguishable from other SMT games
>>321863012
Almost every megami tensei anime sucks only decent ones are the digital devil story ovas and tokyo revelation despite being weird as shit
>>321863767
one more turn works, but only because of it being in an srpg
but yeah, looking at something like how dragon quest or pokemon have refined their battle systems over the years, smt is lagging behind. demon coop was a different idea but ended up restricting demon choice more than anything else. smirk could work, but iv's implementation left much to be desired (not to mention the lack of a vit stat).
>>321863943
But you just listed 2 of the 4 ones that exist. Hell, even Devil Children was worth watching if not just for Jack Frost
Both SMT and Persona are the hipster JRPG for people who look down on the likes of Tales/FF. It's just that Persona became too popular so people switched over to hipster'ing for SMT instead.
DDS is the best SMT franchise game I've played in any event.
>>321850581
this nigger gets it
>>321850161
Persona is more casual, easier to get into and stick with, the supporting characters are far more interesting. The mechanics are WAY easier. Save for things like SMT IV and whatnot, but y'know.
I prefer Persona myself. But man, do I love a good mainline SMT.
Mastema did nothing wrong
>>321865565
Fuck of Mastema
>>321865565
>Mastema did nothing
Ftfy
I tried DDS after playing all the Persona games and couldn't get into it. Persona 2 is still the best SMT game in my book so far.
>>321850161
Because smt doens't have Chie.
>>321850161
I like both, but maybe I prefer Persona.
On paper SMT seems like it would be vastly superior but it never really is.
Persona is about characters, and SMT is about plot.
SMT plot peak was with SMT 1 and 2 and there hasn't been a better one since.
Only thing letting SMT 1 and 2 down is that they're a bit archaic.
If they had been made today or the past 10-15 years I think they would be the best games in the series and everyone would care about SMT more.
Both series are good.
They have their own different goals.
Persona achieves it's smaller goals, while SMT goes for greater goals and it never quite nails it.
Always feels like something is missing or it's incomplete.
For the earlier games it's gameplay for the later ones it's plot.
If IV didn't just recycle SMT 1 and 2, as well as some balance issues, it might have been the best Atlus RPG.
Here's hoping for Final will the saviour we all deserve.SMT has better waifus though
![0CC00B8ED99C07E03E40FF060270EB652E79A083[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/4wbng4i.png "0CC00B8ED99C07E03E40FF060270EB652E79A083[1].png")
>>321850161
because muh dating sim trash
>>321850161
Persona is more aesthetically appealing to the JRPG audience of now days. It's not like Persona itself is a lot popular though.
Casuals
>>321863767
We haven't really seen if P5 brought any changes to the gameplay formula though. I am not sure why you mean by similar games cause honestly they all look different and have their own appeal.
blimp
>>321866187
>Persona is about characters, and SMT is about plot.
Persona is about Atlus' bad writing, SMT is about Atlus' considerably better JRPG mechanics and level design.
SMT is about dungeon crawling and negotiating demons, Persona is about playing a very diluted SMT game set in a bland, randomly generated dungeon alongside a slice of lice VN-thing.
Persona is like taking Crash Team Racing, turning the hub world into the main game mode and sprinkling bland randomly-generated tracks to race here and there.
>>321868838
>slice of lice
That turned out better than I meant it to, but obviously I wanted to say slice of life.
>>321868838
>Different type of game is bad writing
>Implying that SMT games have top quality writing.
SMT games deal with more "highbrow" subject matter, that doesn't mean the writing it better.
>slice of life VN-thing
Yes and?
Is there something wrong with that, other than you don't like it?
It's just further point that these games are different and to rant on about how one is superior than the other is comparing apples and oranges.
It's easy to understand preference when it comes to SMT and Persona, be it the series or games in the series, since they all have their own certain nuisances, but to say some are clearly better than other is stupid.
SMT fans are so bitter and Persona fans are so oblivious.
When will it end.
>>321870347
>SMT games deal with more "highbrow" subject matter, that doesn't mean the writing it better.
Indeed it doesn't, in fact the writing isn't better. There's just less of it, or rather more of it is easier to ignore.
>Is there something wrong with that, other than you don't like it?
No, aside from the fact that the writing is too poor to support the existence of Visual Novel-like sections there's nothing inherently wrong with it. Another thing I didn't say, if you notice.
I'd like to point out the irony of you complaining about rants while yourself ranting about stuff I didn't say or imply. I don't hate Persona, I just think its focus on the weakest aspect of the Megaten series at the cost of its biggest strength is extremely misguided, although the games are still enjoyable.
Do you have an anime reaction picture for this?
It's a little more mainstream because it's more accessible. Most people haven't played SMT games that aren't Persona. That may give the false impression that people like it more.
However, I personally think the Persona games have better characters and I like how there's more emphasis on the story. The reason Persona 3 and 4 are so popular is because of their split between VN gameplay and dungeon crawler.
>>321851028
Chie a best
>>321866037
This guy knows it
>there will never be an SMT thread that isn't full of people pretending they've played SMT
Ok now, let's be serious for a moment. OP, i guess that with "Persona" you only meant Persona 3 and 4. So, let me tell you why me and other people like me consider P4 their favourite MegaTen. I've got behind me SMT, Nocturne, Strange Journey, Persona 1, Persona 3 and Persona 4. I liked SMT but there where some points, usually while farming, when i had to say "stop" and shut the game. The late Personas, with their social link stuff make a relaxing interval between dungeon crawling sessions and at the same time they envelope deeply character development.
>>321870719
>There's just less of it, or rather more of it is easier to ignore.
Well then why were you complaining about the writing?
Less is more?
Less is higher quality?
>aside from the fact that the writing is too poor to support the existence of Visual Novel-like sections.
I feel like you're only going to think like this if you compare it to top-tier visual novels.
Persona games are really above average for the run of the mill VN, even Persona 4.
>My original post
>I have issues with SMT but I still really like them
>Your post
>Just cause I never said it, doesn't mean I think it!
If you leave stuff out, people are going to assume stuff with the information you've given.
I can't read your mind from across the globe.
>Do you have an anime reaction picture for this?
I can post hoys all day long.
My hoys are a bit different.
>>321872697
>Well then why were you complaining about the writing?
Because it's bad. You know, bad? The opposite of good? Bad things are what people usually complain about.
DMC has bad, frustrating platforming. If Platinum made a spin off of DMC that focused on its platforming, it would probably be the worst possible thing. Persona is like that, not that terrible, but overall a misstep still.
Let me reiterate: I'm not saying that the writing in SMT is better, I said that SMT is better, because that there's less writing. Is it easier to grasp?
>I feel like you're only going to think like this if you compare it to top-tier visual novels.
I think like this because I've played the games and I thought the writing was bad. I'm not comparing it, I don't even know what you'd consider "top-tier visual novels". I've only played a couple of them, and aside from having cool and captivating plot twists none of them was particularly amazingly written.
>I can't read your mind from across the globe.
Sure, but you don't have to in order not to put words in my mouth.
Like all this stuff about SMT having better writing, did you even read my first sentence?
>Persona is about Atlus' bad writing
Which, if you knew how to read, means that I'm talking about SMT too, and Etrian Odyssey as well in case you were wondering.
>>321873850
>I said that SMT is better, because that there's less writing. Is it easier to grasp?
>Because it's bad. You know, bad? The opposite of good? Bad things are what people usually complain about.
So you weren't complaining about the writing in Persona, you're just saying it's bad.
So with SMT less is more?
Less is higher quality?
If I erased half a Persona script it would be better?
If I added a chunk to any SMT game it'd be worse?
I understood you the first time, I just don't understand your complain of length.
>none of them was particularly amazingly written.
Out of those two?
So what are you comparing it to, or what is your reference for "good writing"?
Other RPGs that have better writing?
Or are you comparing it to books and such?
>Persona is about Atlus' bad writing, which, if you knew how to read, means that I'm talking about SMT.
You mean Mr. Atlus?
The guy who has been writing the plots for all the games for 30 years?
Do you really need to ask?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nGWEb5QxGA
This thread is making me wish that persona 3 and 4 had a different name since half the shit people complain about persona are about the later games.
Reminder that Mastema is our friend. Never forget the time he saved doomguy.
Peronsa 3 and 4 are more relateable to the average person then most SMT characters.
That's really why it's so popular atleast here in the west. Compared to the more outlandish JRPG's out there, Persona is pretty grounded
>>321876562
Yeah, they're different from Persona 1 and 2 and that makes things kinda confusing.
>>321875327
I don't think you can read, or you really want to read, which incidentally explains why you would find the writing in Persona acceptable. I highly suspect you're just trolling at this point, but let's do this one more time.
>So you weren't complaining about the writing in Persona, you're just saying it's bad.
Saying that something is bad IS complaining. Saying that something bad is more predominant is also complaining.
>So with SMT less is more?
No, that sentence doesn't mean anything in this context.
>Less is higher quality?
No and I repeatedly told you so.
>If I erased half a Persona script it would be better?
It depends on how you'd do it.
>If I added a chunk to any SMT game it'd be worse?
It depends on how you'd do it.
>I understood you the first time, I just don't understand your complain of length.
No you didn't understand me the first time, because I never mentioned "length" the first time around and what you said was in direct opposition with what I said.
>Out of those two?
I didn't mean "couple" to say literally just two. It depends on how strict you are when you say "VN", but I've played 999/VLR, Danganronpa 1 and 2, the Ace Attorney series, Tsukihime and maybe a few more I can't recall.
>So what are you comparing it to, or what is your reference for "good writing"? [...]
I don't know where I'd draw the line between "serviceable" and "good". It hugely depends on how seriously the writing is taking itself, and how predominant it is. SMT and Persona both attempt to tackle very complicated issues, and their method is usually awfully clumsy and unskilled.
>You mean Mr. Atlus?
>The guy who has been writing the plots for all the games for 30 years?
However many writers they have had I don't care, the writing in their games is usually poor.
They both appeal to different audiences , people who like Persona probably dig the visual novel stuff and can relate to the high school characters , SMT doesnt have that , mainline series is really good but it doesnt take a genius to figure out that Nocturne would never get played by most , it is kind of unforgiving
>>321850581
Persona has garbage waifus. Demons top tier.
>>321851028
This guy, he gets it.
>>321850161
Because we sometimes have to wai a goddamn decade for a new mainline game, what is currently happening between SMTIV and Final is not the norm
>>321876780
>I'm so correct. Anyone who thinks different just must be a blatant troll
That's you
>No you didn't understand me the first time, because I never mentioned "length"
>I said that SMT is better, because that there's less writing. Is it easier to grasp?
>There's just less of it, or rather more of it is easier to ignore.
>I never mentioned "length" the first time around
So because you didn't mention it at first it means you never brought it up.
Your're right.
I don't understand what you're talking about, please help me.
Can you cite some examples or post a link?
That would help too.
I haven't played Persona 1, or any SMT games outside 1,2,3,4, DDS 1 and 2.
>So what are you comparing it to, or what is your reference for "good writing"?
You didn't answer this question.
I feel this would help me understand where you're coming from.
>999/VLR
The rewriting for English in those games is just terrible.
>I never said they were!
I know I'm just stating something off topic.
Hurry up it's 3:30am and I'm tired.
>This'd be over if you could read!
Fuck you leatherman.
>>321861468
>>321861775
As far as I remember it does indeed come subbed in the BDs, so yeah after a whole fucking year waiting we are finally getting to watch the third movie
>>321865565
He actually didn't though, he flat out said he just wanted to help humans achieve oneness with Law and aside from the three chucklefucks stopping you from going home he was the only one going out of his way to help humans in that hellhole he even asked Zelenin if she really wanted the fusion since there was a chance of her dying horribly and in SMTIV he was the one who stopped the angels from completely nuking tokyo so it didn't end up becoming like blasted tokyo and while he was helping with the pills to stave off the hunger from the demons he even said it was soon going to become ineffective
Persona is much more accessible/palatable for the general populace.
Mainline is incredibly grimy and primal in its depiction, like there are demons who want to graphically devour you and God does not give a fuck. I mean you don't see too much of it but yeah. I think the only reason why IV got away with an M rating (that's T for you Amerifats) was because you don't actually see any of it.
I like both Persona and SMT for different reasons, with Persona they at least have a little bit more happy endings than we usually get in SMT and I remember when P4 was released I was pleasantly surprised that it ended on such a high note
>>321878727
>That's you
I'm not the one blatantly misunderstanding very simple things and putting words in your mouth while posting reaction pictures so... You know.
>So because you didn't mention it at first it means you never brought it up.
Outside of books people don't refer to writing talking about "length". A game can be 5000 hours "long" and have no writing whatsoever. I was thinking of "length" as in game length, not as in "writing length".
Aside from that, it's easy to grasp. I said it pretty clearly already, but whatever. Let's resort to a food analogy, ok?
Imagine you had a bag of cashew nuts with some wasabi peas in it. I hate wasabi peas, so if there's LESS wasabi peas I'm happier for it. If there's more, then I'm going to dislike it, especially if the cashew nuts were of worse quality.
"Less is more" is like putting only a hint of truffle in an omelette to make the flavor more subtle rather than putting five spoonfuls. The SMT vs Persona dichotomy isn't like that, it's having less of something that is poor in any quantity. If there was a single page of poorly written text then it would still be bad writing I'd rather it wasn't there, but it would be better than half the game being devoted to bad dialogue.
I like SMT better because all the writing there is can suck as much as I want, I'll just bast through it. In Persona the game grabs you by the hair and pulls your screaming face into a lake of dialogues until you lose your senses.
>You didn't answer this question.
It's not an easy question to answer, as I said I don't know where I'd draw the line. I liked Soma because instead of using its plot twists as an endgame shocker it used them as stepping stones to talk about very interesting topics and moral choices. I didn't much care for some of the corollary dialogue and personal logs and whatnot.
I thought that Grim Fandango told a captivating uncomplicated story, and each character was a breath of fresh air, but I wouldn't put it on a pedestal.
Only played Megami Tensei 1 and 2 here, should I go into Shin megami tensei, persona or one of the other spin off series next?
>>321880475
you can go wherever you want
>>321880475
SMT1 probably. stop calling SMT a spinoff
Because it's better if you're not a basement dwelling weeaboo. It's also more socially acceptable than your retarded chuunibyou god vs the devil stories.
>>321879413
>more accessible to the general populace
AKA it's for dummies.
>>321850161
better waifus
>>321881053
Are you telling me basement dwelling weeaboos aren't the people who play Persona?
In Persona you make friends. In SMT you kill your friends.
Persona is for normalfags
Persona series offer a more down to earth experience of mystical school adventures instead of being pretentious and invoking the concepts of order and chaos that the writers themselves don't understand.
Persona games are works designed to appeal to weebs, while mainline SMTs are like works by teenage weebs trying to be profound.
>>321880223
Oh so I did kinda understand you then.
That still doesn't make sense to me though.
Say I don't like broccoli, and the option is more or less broccoli.
Less is not good, they're both bad.
The reason I keep replying is because you seem to have an issue with the writing in BOTH games and all you keep saying is "they're bad but one has less bad."
But why is it bad?
"It's just not good."
You keep saying it's my fault and that I can't read but you're doing a really poor job at explaining yourself.
Did you even think that you might have mishandled some stuff?
Did you?
Sure, I have too and I can say it.
>I like SMT better
So are we talking about preference now?
Have we always been talking about preference?
If we are then I don't care what you think about my preference and I get your preference.
SMT and to some extent Persona are pretty decent quality across the board when it comes to RPGs, including writing.
I can't believe you're bagging on SMT for bad writing.
Do you like any jrpgs or are you in this thread just because you like how Nocturne plays so much?
Dude how come you get triggered over reaction images?
How come you called Walter's hoys "anime reaction image"?
Here, have as many as I can stuff in a singe post.
It's 4:30am.
Literally an hour later
I'm autistic to reply to you but you're autistic if you reply back.
Let me sleep
>>321850581
Am I the only Persona fan who doesn't really give a shit about waifus. I mean sure it's kinda cool I guess, to pick one of the party members to be your other half but it's not like THATS why I like Persona. Seems like a lot of other fans do like it because of that shit though.
smt is too hard. every few months I launch Nocturne, lose to a boss, and quit
Persona 3 took me like two weeks to finish
Is Strange Journey essentially SMT 0?Because it is to me. Neutral all day you fags. Based Gore died for my sins.
>>321883728
The only reason not to go Neutral is so you can fight Gore.
>>321883861
Why would I want to fight magical chocolate man?
>>321883360
>You keep saying it's my fault and that I can't read but you're doing a really poor job at explaining yourself.
It is your fault because you kept asking me the same thing, and you kept saying you did't understand, and turns out you did understand, you were just asking me the wrong thing over and over again.
All of your other questions are pointless noise, you literally just blasted off from a misunderstanding and now you're just spinning in circles trying to get something right or score some points.
Also, I said "anime reaction picture" regarding the first one you posted (yes I'm aware it's a manga), so I never said it about Walter. Another thing you pointed out because you can't read. They make you look like an idiot who's trying to win an argument that isn't even there rather than actually reading and understanding what you're being told and having a discussion.
>>321882087
You have to make those guys your friends before killing them.
SMT is also heavy into the whole "power of teamwork" thing since it's impossible to go around without a full party of demons unless you're stupidly overleved and even then there's a chance of getting insta gibbed.
>>321884084
Same reason you want to fight everyone else, it's fun.
>>321883360
That doesn't even rhyme. Shit song.
>>321866187
>SMT is about plot
if by plot you mean a dry story being loosely decorated with "muh choices" that lazily dabs into the subject matter of human philosophy.
i respect persona for its writing and i don't think mainline will ever be on par with their level of quality.
>>321885328
>Persona
>quality writing
Aside from letting me fuck this girl it reads like an anime knockoff that can't focus on its genre and later on decided it was a harem.
Persona has:
>waifus
>cosplay material
>haha so cute dialogue
>typical visuals seen in any weeb game, light poppy shit
>waifus
SMT has:
>world changing
>demons
>death
>gritty dark shit
>low amount of waifus
>actually good gameplay
Pretty obvious why people prefer Persona.
>>321885541
>>321885328
Both Series have their faults with writing. No need to start shit.I prefer SMT because I really enjoy the bleak, hopeless apocalyptic vibe it has going on.
I also like the sense of camaraderie you develop with your crew in SJ when you're all trying to escape the nightmare that is Demonkind.
>>321885541
Most mainline SMTs (and MTs before them) are anime knockoffs as well, Nocturne being the only odd one I can think of. Even then, Nocturne is still somewhat close to pseudophilosophical animu you could see in the 90's.
>>321850161
Cuz SMT, whether you like it or not, is really just the same old JRPG shit that's been there since the late 80s. Granted it's done quite well, but nothing too new or fresh.
Persona on the other hand brought all sorts of interesting concepts while also having an actual story and characters that are not one dimensional "muh order" or "muh chaos" guys.
>>321850581
This, and the casualness of it. I say that with love, I really like Persona, but it isn't difficult at all, and it's super duper fucking comfy. I mean a new level of comfy. I played P4 whilst unemployed and derelict, and Inaba kept me sane. P4 with noodles and snacks at 3 AM is the greatest.
>>321885753
>SMT has
>low amount of waifus
Stop looking at the humans you fool.
The only SMT games I've ever played is Strange Journey and IV. Is Nocturne worth getting? I was thinking of getting it from the PSN.
>>321853114
From my point of view lucifer is evil
>>321864171
I'm surprised NoA allowed tits that heavy on US soil.
>>321866037
>not having her smile from the intro sequence in the collage
People like persona because it's a weeb dating simulator.
It's not the gameplay as that's a diluted version of mainline, the story is just as bad if not worse (but not as fun in my opinion), and the characters take too much time to talk instead of going away to let you indulge in your demons.
>>321850161
Strange Journey is the only SMT that interests me because the other ones either look bland or are purposefully designed to look like edgy shit.
IV Final looks like a fucking joke.
>>321886824
>Someone else finally realizes the beauty of SJ
Mah Nigga.
SMT 0 is best SMT
>>321850161
>SMT: Strange Journey
>JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Just close enough for me to be satisfied SMT is making a nod to it. Is that the game I should start with? Does it have any other references to JoJo?
>>321884293
I didn't understand because I thought you had more to say than "it's bad and I don't like it."
>SMT writing is bad, [citation needed]
>All of your other questions are pointless noise
And with that you "score the points", for making me stay past 5 in hopes you were going to say something.
Please sure to laugh at me as you rightly should.
Here's your anime reaction picture.
Goodnight from Adelaide.
I'm going to bed with my Jack Frost plush.
>>321885067
Well I think the writings of some SMT games are pretty decent, so I was pretty fucked thinking I could write a song.
>>321887041
No that's persona that makes references to jojo
>>321886951
Shit well now that we're on the subject I should just go buy it now. Procrastination is a killer and I got plane trips ahead.
>>321868838
>SMT is about Atlus' considerably better JRPG mechanics and level design.
That's Etrian Odyssey.
>>321886951
I just started SJ and it's pretty great so far, though I kinda wish I had more freedom in fusion skills.
>>321886078
it's hipster shit for people who want to like SMT but don't want to be called an SMT fan
>>321888304
>not wanting to be an SMT fan
Why would someone do this? SMT is wonderful.
>>321888450
have you seen all the people complaining about #FE
>>321888861
I'm not happy about that game but I'm not too vocal about it.
>>321886228
Both God and Lucifer are negative forces that represents two extremes SMT.
>>321859935
>Persona is about (PERSONA)L problems
>Shin MEGAmi Tensei is about MEGA problems (global scale)
it all makes cents now
>>321859934
>the second one
>shoving Aigis everywhere and changing MC's attitude so drastically
Yeah no
The first movie was the only good one
I can't get into smt because the characters are so ugly. like how chunni do you have to be to think demifiend looks cool?
>>321886951
>demon goes into lengthy speech about how humans suck
>you kill it
>>321885541
really, persona's stories are nothing to write home about but it does some justice by adding some nice colors and themes. in smt they make literally zero effort in making the story, slap on "muh routes" and call it a meaningful plot.
>>321891614
this guy looks like he shops at Sears for his shoes
>>321850161
Persona has the Japanese life simulator so people are attracted to this aspect, Mainline is more oriented to the whole demons/angels conflict with low focus on characters which makes it less appealing for some people.
>>321888861
Considering half of /v/ actively wants the game to flop, and a good portion of those people are FE fans and not SMT fans, I don't see why anyone would care.
>>321868838
>negotiating demons
>incoherent dialogue that gives no rhyme or reason to your responses
sure thing bub. the idea's good on paper but they've never done it right.
Persona has more story and waifus. SMT is great, but it's a lot harder to get into.
>>321892860
>that gives no rhyme or reason to your responses
That's the best part.
>>321891673
SMT demons are amusing edgelords.
Not as edgy as Jack's Squad though.
>mfw there are people who struggled at Yukiko and Kanji's bosses in P4
