Hey /v/, I'm really enjoying the game so far but I feel like I'm doing something wrong.
How do I git gud? Also, Civ5 thread I guess
Do you have vanilla or all the expansions?
>>321798853
Keep playing the game on settler until you learn the basics. And each time you win by a large margin, raise the difficulty. Learn what everything in the game does, especially specialists, happiness, great people and every building.
>>321799403
fuck you, man
>>321799325
expansion family
Might as well get it out of the way
>>321800072
Rolling
>>321800072
Rolling
>>321800072
this kills the thread
rolling
>>321800072
>please don't be Carthage or Iroquois
>>321800072
rollo
>>321800072
Give me something good
>>321799802
>playing on settler
don't do this, you will learn bad habits
don't go any lower than warlord
>>321800072
Aaaaaaa
What are your favorite Civ 5 mods, /v/?
>>321800072
bROLLO
>>321800832
are there really any "must get" policies or should I just choose what works best with what I have and what I want to do?
>>321799802
>settler
God, no. Even Prince is piss-easy. Settler is for 6-year old girls.
Start on prince. All you really need to know is go Tradition and go heavy on food. Production will sort itself out for the most part. That's more than enough to win on Prince and gives you a foundation to git gud. If you still suck, play an OP civ like Polan or Inca.
>feel like playing some civ
>great fun at start, exploring and settling cities
>wars are fast and decisive
>middle-late game comes
>gotta capture some capitals
>AI produces/buys so many units on settler 7+ difficulties that you have to grind through dozens of cannon fodder to finally reach and capture cities
>get bored, uninstall
>>321800072
rolling
>>321800983
Tradition is overpowered and 90% of the time, you will max that one first. But different civs (and starting locations) require different policies. Just experiment and find out.
>>321801163
>>321800832
He's already having trouble so he obviously needs to learn the basics. He'll probably just keep getting killed on Prince.
>>321800072
Rolling
>>321800072
quantum dice roll
>>321800983
The Rationalism tree is OP and is almost always a must-pick. Tradition is the best in most situations for Ancient era and can be used for both tall and wide civs. Liberty is useful but only conditionally better than Tradition. Piety and Honor are extremely conditional and can generally be ignored if you are new.
Commerce and Exploration have some good picks low in the tree but going all the way down the tree is unusual (exploration is useful for maritime-heavy maps, but not your vanilla continents map). Patronage and Aesthetics are only useful if you're aiming for a culture or diplomatic victory.
>>321801362
every game
>Tuscany jew boy declares war on me unexpectedly
>sends 3-4 range units and a pikeman to my outer city
>have no units to defend except a pikeman
>have tons of gold from trade routes/luxuries, buy two long swordsman
>crank out units in all 3 of my cities, some ranged and siege units
>capture his capital, declare peace
>some 30 turns later he declares war on me again, with no fucking units
>brings his butt buddy Gandhi into the mix, have a two front war
>raze one of Tuscany's city, pillage India
>be declared a warmonger, tensions building between other civs
>scared daddy Rome is going to rape me with his state of the art musketmen soon
Can't fucking eliminate Tuscany without being a warmonger, but if I don't eliminate him he'll turn all the other civs against me.
>>321798853
I would learn by just playing a 1v1 on prince difficulty on a large pangean map and no barbarians. It'll take a bit longer to play out but this way you will focus more on culture, economy, unit maintenance, and create your own strategies.
After a while of playing you will literally need to reroll map to not get an op start.
Once you layout what to get and when, especially at start, rest is smooth sailing.
Unless Dido or Zulus happen to be right next to you.
>>321800957
Community Balance Patch
Events and Decisions
Mercenaries
Cultural Diversity
Playing with a shit ton of wonder mods
>>321800957
Historical Religions
Ethnic Units
No Free Pottery
Faster Planes
>>321800072
le roll
>Me trying to play this game peacefully and go for cultural/science/dipo victory.
Settling a city.
>AI from the other continent hates me.
Befriending a neighbor city-state.
>AI from other continent denounced me.
Spread your religious to AI cities.
>AI hates you.
Tells AI not to spread their religious to your cities.
>AI hates you.
Spread my own religious back to their cities as retaliation.
>AI hates you.
Domination victory it is.
>Rome being a fucking dick to everyone
>He's also congress leader
>Vote for a new leader coming up
>I don't have enough votes to win
>Rome is going to win at this rate
>Give my votes to my bro Sweden
>Sweden wins with Rome in second
>Their first proposals is to ban my main two luxuries
I got fucking played
>>321803939
The game pushes you to fight no matter what your victory path. The AI will beat you at accelerating your native resources on higher difficulties, and even on lower, you're going to want to accelerate your victory.
>>321798853
>days before 2016
>still playing Civ5
shiggy diggy
>>321804620
It's a lot more well-known and accessible than EL. Plus, if he's struggling at Civ, EL would murder him.
>>321803939
The computer looks for any chance it can to hate you. Because the only way it can win is by slowing you down/killing you with military. Once you learn all the tricks of the game, getting a diplomatic/science victory is actually the best way to win.
>>321804724
EL isn't harder, it just lacks a proper tutorial. And up to date manual. And up to date wiki. And the tooltips are cryptic as fuck...
Okay, you have a point there. Still, it's a lovely game.
>>321800072
I guess it's been a while.
>>321804620
>that one guy who has to mention endless legend in every Civ thread
I like Endless Legend. But you're making me like it less.
>>321804938
After picking it up, I doubt I'm ever going back to Civ unless I've got friends who want to play MP. Still, it's not surprising that there are still people who don't even know about EL.
>>321799403
i can smell the autism
>>321800072
roll
>>321800072
ok rolling
>>321800072
rolling
>>321800072
Roling
What is the purpose of religion in Civ V? I've watched a couple tutorials, but neither actually explained what use religion is other than the benefits you get from the tenets you choose. Is that it?
>>321808103
Yeah you get benefits, like +1 gold for every city following that religion. In some cases it even counts if enemy cities follow your religion. That shit will add up after a while.
>>321800072
roollin
>>321800072
rolling
Ask me anything.
>>321800072
Well I was looking forward to playing a story game, but I guess rolling will do.
>>321800072
rollin
>>321801163
>Settler is for 6-year old girls.
So, me.
>>321800072
Rollo
>>321808103
You can get some neat perks from it.
Holy Warriors lets you use faith points to purchase military units so that's pretty fucking based.
>>321808836
How often do you leave it idling?
>>321808836
How? Why? Did you forget to turn it off when you went on holidays?
>>321808836
You have spent 1/3 of a year playing Civ5. Let that sink in.
>>321809083
Never.
>>321809114
>How?
Multiplayer matches take a long ass time.
>>321809165
Feels good man.
>>321798853
Go for currency straight away and win with your vast riches.
Also, declare war against the first civilization you run across to show you're not to be pushed around.
>>321800072
What am I doing today magic ci/v/ilzation sheet
>>321800072
HERE IT COMES BABY
Does anyone else fantasize about her?
She's such a fucking cunt. She spends the entire game expanding her empire to monumental proportions and taunting you every step of the way. If you are unlucky enough to share a border with her, you absolutely need to keep a massive amount of troops stationed there at all times. When you finally do take her down it feels so sweet. I like to imagine my soldiers storming her royal palace, bursting into her room, ripping her dress off letting those massive knockers come pouring out. At first she resists, but then she starts to like it.
>>321809860
I'm assuming you mean Russia?
>>321809860
Shit forgot pic
>>321808103
Religion gives you global boosts. Like culture from all plantations or production from fish. Its initial boosts are small, but grow substantially over time. If you get something like Mosques and Pagodas, every city goes from adding -4 to your happiness to -1. And gives you tons of extra culture/faith which can be used to get quicker policies/units/great people.
Religion is my favorite part of the game actually. The only real issue is, there's no religious victory condition. Which really should be added in Civ VI.
>>321809860
I think you might have played a bit too much. Maybe take a break? Play different games? You might need professional help tho...
>>321810246
Don't be a fucking prude. Everyone on this board has fantasized about raping Catherine the Great. Just admit it.
Enjoy it while it lasts. Eventually you'll get bored and start playing with mod Civs. Then the bots will get boring and you'll move on to MP. Unfortunately, once you get to a certain point, you might just get bored like I did.
If you want to get better, consider watching FilthyRobot. He's considered one of the best, and he mainly does MP, but has done some Deity games, as well.
>>321798853
It's easy anon:
>make sure to have a huge standing army so you don't slapped
>make sure every city you build has every building available, even if it looks like you don't need it
>work your way up the science tree methodically, don't skip anything
>>321809992
there are some good SFMs about her
>>321810404
Having passionate consentual sex? Sure.
Brutally gang-raping her after making her watch her home land pillaged and taken over? eeeeh
>>321811169
>Implying she doesn't deserve it
>>321798853
Korea is a completely unbalanced civ that needs fo just be removed from the game. Feels good fucking them in the ass with my superior military tactics tho.
>blirzkrieg with my tanks
Fuck them. If thr game gave an option id commit genocide of their civilians. Best I can do is raze their cities.
>>321811169
Well for what it's worth, anon, she has no problem chopping your balls off and stealing your horse
Any pointers for playing Venice? It seems like a "Jew-lite" way of playing
>>321811626
Don't go Jew-lite
Go Jew
>>321809860
>>321809992
A few times i won against her in a nuke war. Was funny seeing her sweat even panic.
>>321811626
Think like a jew. Hope you don't start next to monty
>>321811493
Well then I guess I can undersand then...stealing horses is the lowest you can get.
>>321798853
don't play on deity
do not allow your workers to be automated
do not make friends with nations directly beside you
ALWAYS secure your borders
play with mods
the enemy cities are usually worthless, burn them all to the ground
>>321798853
watch a fag play on youtube, mad djin is alright
>>321808103
You can get gold, happiness, and great people out of it, plus a few more subtle perks.
>>321811971
>do not allow your workers to be automated
Not having 30+ workers on auto
Not enjoying nearly all of them raping a new part of land you take over and turning into a paradise of industry
Not living a communist paradise.
So, what would be considered babby's first civilization in this game?
>>321808103
it's what you make it, the best perks are happiness and gold ones
>>321812418
warlord difficulty
>>321812418
Babbylon. Rush writing. Doubles science output for a long time. Powerful walls and archer as well
>>321810208
Doesn't Religion help with cultural victory?
>>321798853
>How do I git gud?
stop building wonders
seriously
I want to play as a small, highly advanced Civ surrounded by medieval Huns on all sides. How can I make it happen? I can use an advanced setup mod to get myself ahead of the other Civs, but I want to have a small country while they have massive ones that surround me.
>>321812418
babylon and le mountain people of many food and hill movement
>>321812265
>not having your workers replace your farmland with trading posts
>>321800518
carthage is fun though, you can build a coastal empire
>>321812612
Cargo ships > trading posts
>>321812605
korea one city challenge on settler
>>321812567
Not really. You can make your religion help with any win-con, but it's supplementary at best.
>>321800072
Roll
>>321812751
No shit. The point is that if you leave your workers on automated, they'll start replacing your improvements with useless bullshit once they get bored.
>>321812567
it can help ANY victory type
>>321800072
ROLL
>>321813095
There's an option to disable that
>>321811971
>make friends with a nation directly beside you
>let us seal our newfound friendship with a nice forward settling
Erry time.
>>321813026
Re roll for map
>Start Civ 5
>THIS time I'll be a scary warlord!
>Cultural victory
every time. How do I wage wars
>>321813902
Play on a smaller map, conquest is the hardest victory to get on anything other than tiny maps with small player counts.
>>321813095
No they don't. What? Mine just go idle when they don't have shit to do. Do you play downs syndrome edition?
>>321800072
Rollan senpai
>>321800072
rollan
>>321813902
Set win conditions to domination only. Feelsgoodman.
>>321800072
Looking like a civ night. Rolling.
>>321800072
lets try
;]
>>321812612
>>321811971
bruh it's not civ 4 anymore
>>321798853
focus on production and money
try to specialize cities before you generalize them with upgrade buildings
build more range and seige than you would think
trade routes are vital, keep them full even if within own empire
trade any extra resources
>>321812567
If you go one of the 8 different religious beliefs that focus on culture it can. The hermitage belief adds +5 to both Culture and Tourism in the city with the hermitage. Then stacks with all the bonuses in that capital. If you're playing France or Brazil, that can be upwards of 25 tourism and 25 culture a turn from that one religious belief. And of course, Pagodas/Mosques/Cathedrals which all give culture.
I tend to go for religious beliefs that give happiness. For faster early/mid game expansion. Pagodas/Mosques/Cathedrals just do both. Which is why they're kind of overpowered.
>>321809860
I felt the same way when I took Carthage. I imagine my troops bringing Dido before me on my throne then ordering them to rip her toga off, leaving her to stand bare nude before me for a while before I take her away, bend her over an elephant and fuck her brains out.
Why is Civ 5 so sexual?
How do I get maps with large mountain ranges and choke points?
I enjoy medieval era only with those fantasy map type boundaries
>Babylon asks for free money
>Say no
>Gets pissed off at me
Fuck you, I have a country to run
>>321814817
jews gonna jew
>>321798853
dont build wonders. food food food food food farms food food food. pay AI to go to war with each other. food food food food. sell your luxuries, food food food more food because food is science more farms because farm is food. and keep reloading until you get salt luxury
congrats you can now beat the hardest difficulty
I hate playing civ when I get to the modern age and I hate nukes the most :(
>>321800072
Ro11
>>321803939
The AI plays to win and will hate you if you have any advantage whatsoever. I'm surprised they didn't make all AIs auto-hostile on higher difficulties.
>>321815198
Reroll
>>321813902
rush navigation, pump out some frigates, conquer all the ports of the world
>>321814989
I thought the "muh pop" mentality was a bad thing and cities other than your capital aren't worth growing past pop 10.
>>321811971
>that unhappiness.
>>321798853
it just takes practice i have 400 hours in the game just prioritize science. it took me a long time to get the hang of it just krrrp playing and learn
>>321798853
>Always specialize your cities, it's easier and cheaper.
>Scouting is half the victory.
>Take the Workers of city states early in the game and make peace right after it again.
>Don't automate your workers.
>Don't automate your scouts.
>Build Roads.
>Build more Roads.
>Don't expand to aggressively early in the game
>Tradition is a fucking awesome politic tree
>>321798853
Andrew?
>>321800072
someone needs to make an endless legend one.
>>321816690
Why not you?
>>321813902
I enjoy playing England - rush navigation, build your fleet and take on the world.
Your mobility is so crazy you can defeat one Civ before rushing to the other side of your empire to defend yourself from another.
>>321800072
Rolling
>>321800072
dootdottt
>>321800072
rerollllinnnnnn
>>321804938
The limitations of side factions you can recruit and the very limited base units ruin the game for me.Also the endless winter, but there's a mod for that.
>>321816690
>Roll for endless legend
>Cultists-expansion victory
>Reroll
>Roving clans supremacy victory
I guess the second one is doable at least.
Why do people say get a shit ton of food?
>>321817473
You do get to change their amour and stuff. Plus the heroes
>>321816530
>Don't expand to aggressively early in the game
if you can destroy an enemy civ before meeting other civs its usually worthwhile since you don't gain negative relationship penalties with the other civs
>>321818032
Science increases with Population, Population increases with Food.
Basically the more Food you have, the quicker your Science will grow.
>>321818160
>You do get to change their amour and stuff.
That's why I said base units, the game could have easily be on my top 10 if thedevelopers weren'tso lazy.
Is it okay to declare war at someone who denounced you?
Because pretty much everyone except Greece denounced me.
>>321800072
Rock and roll famalam
>>321818559
they're going to decide they hate you anyway, might as well give them a real reason to
>>321818654
>Rock and roll
too soon
>>321818559
You're gonna be seen as a warmonger once you start conquering people, whether they denounced you or not.
>>321818559
Fuck 'em all at this point desu.
But protip: in games where you're already friendly with a bunch of factions, never go to war unless it's with someone who has taken cities before.
>>321818559
so the world hates you
do you have any deals with civs you'd like to keep?
if not then go ahead, the world sees you as a monster, fight like one
Should I annex or raze cities?
>>321800072
rollon
>>321804938
EL is superior by far, especially the blunder that is the newest Civ, but it just isnt as polished sadly.
>>321800072
Fuck it senpai, sign me up.
>>321819673
Does it have wonders you want? Is it on a good piece of land? Basically, does it have qualities to make the happiness penalty worth it? If so, annex.
Otherwise, raze.
>>321818160
I like that each race gets their iconic units, but their's not really much of a difference between infantry/cavalry/flying (I get if you're minmaxing there is, but they don't feel different enough).
Also, planning a military push(especially earlygame) based around strategic resources is a fucking nightmare.
>Going to rush palladian/adamantian extractor and equip units asap when the era pops
>5 regions settled, should get a few extractors running quickly
>One Palladian resource and that's fucking it.
Is knowing which order to take technologies/which social policies to take/which religious tenets to take just a matter of experience? I always have trouble deciding on what would be good for my current situation.
>>321804876
You can easily win with culture too. Ive started wars so my musicians can tour their countries. CAN'T STOP THE MUSIC, MAAAANNNNN!
>>321800072
test
>>321800072
I've needed this in my life
Shame there's little point in building cities on those puny single tiles that sometime spawn on maps. Heck, you'd think Venice would at least get a big boon from that given it's watery nature.
How do I conquer cities surrounded by the Great Wall?
>>321821089
research dynamite
>>321821089
Dynamite nigga
So I'm trying to play trash civs on multiplayer.
How the fuck am I supposed to play Sweden?
>>321800072
YOU USED TO CALL ME ON MY CELLPHONE
I feel like this game always gets slow once I get to the Classic/Medieval eras which both seem to last forever.
>>321800072
Rolling
>>321810208
There;s a mod that adds both religious and economic victories
>>321798853
Download the following gameplay mods:
>Enhanced User Interface: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=512263
>InfoAddict (this gives you info the game doesn't normally give you, so if you simply want info you can access normally, I suggest Global Relations)
>Faster Aircraft Animation
>PerfectWorld3
>RED Mod Pack
>>321821992
There anything that fixes the occasional bug with the cities fighting back? While not happening often, I've seen other Civ cities or sometimes my own just firing like a million rockets while almost all sound goes out and the thing lasting well beyond the standard animation time.
why is byzantium so shit bros
hi :)
>>321800072
based celts
>>321821089
HATE WALLS
>>321822218
I don't understand what exactly you're problem is, but if it's about how long turns are, there's another god saving I forgot.
>Quick Turns
>Intelligently toggles Quick Movement/Combat during AI turns, which results in significantly reduced time you will spend waiting and watching what the AI does instead of actually playing, especially in the late game.
>>321822930
I know of that. But I've seen this weird thing where the cities will just barrage missiles over and over and over and over on an enemy unit well past the usual span of time that you see with any animations. And certainly doesn't seem to be any different in damage, just as though the animation is on a slight loop
>>321800072
Rolling
>>321820394
On higher difficulties, Emperor through Deity, a cultural victory becomes the hardest. Because the computer rushes the cultural wonders while building a bigger military.
Its not impossible, I've done it. Just much harder than any other victory.
>>321823117
I've never encountered that. You may have mods conflicting with each other. Check out /civ4xg/ in /vg/
>>321822218
That's just an animation bug. Happens to bombers a lot too (as if they could be any slower). Music will often repeat as well.
The game has a lot of bugs. If they are too annoying, turn off animations.
>>321821156
>>321821178
The bonus provided from Great Walls doesn't become obsolete until the owner of The Great Walls researches it
>>321822417
>how about you give me 7 gold for my incense?
>"Taa..."
>okay, how about 6 gold
>"Taa..."
>okay, how about 5 gold
>"Taa...."
>fuck you asshole, 1 gold?
>"Taa...."
>are you an idiot, you're sitting at -12 unhappiness!
>"Taa...."
>>321823330
the hardest part is getting a cultural domination before someone finishes a spaceship
>>321798853
Are you focusing on population growth?
>>321823525
One of the most annoying things in the game. Build great wall, go freedom and ignore dynamite until turn 300. Build a ton of great war infantry in 10 turns. Win the game.
>>321820103
Nigga you work with what you have not what you want, and if you didn't find T3 titanium and gs techs by then you are doing something wrong
>>321823446
Nope, haven't used any mods yet.
>>321823481
Guess that could be it. I've seen occasional flickering with the SAMs, and every now and then the shadows/fog (not the clouds) get iffy. Granted, I know the shadows are affected by things like the terrain, even if most of the time everything looks flat outside of the obviously impassable mountains.
>>321800983
traditionalism s good like almost 100 percent of the time and then always rationalism
>>321800072
>>321800072
Gib something good, plz.
>>321823639
Civ's diplomacy will always be fucking garbage
>>321823992
Not complaining, could have been worse.
Just finished a game with Morocco, almost got science or political victory but had forgot to edit options more so won a time victory.
Got lucky with civ placement, neighbor civs had just a few cities with low defences that i wiped out easily and got hold of the whole continent.
>>321824082
You'd think by now they'd at least try to make the Civs all more dynamic so they feel like characters and not just samey robots
>>321820340
just prioritize the techs that give you science
buildings
>>321824082
>I want your sheep, how's about my oil?
"Nah, I will have some Alum though
>"that's not even close to fair, give me all your luxuries and 10 GBT"
Fuck you Indonesia
>>321800072
r-r-r-rolling
Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that 4>5 in every way?
Performance, combat, tech, even the graphics are better in 4. The only thing I like in 5 is the 2D map, and that's probably only because the 3D map looks like shit. Inb4 muh stacks of doom, which were already balanced out by artillery. What, the bigger, better army wins? How unfair! Better break the game by making you move 40 units per turn instead.
>>321823639
Hiawatha a cunt
>>321824386
I was doing a Venice run and started aiming for the diplomatic/world leader victory. First couple of times, Gandhi kept refusing to give votes to me, while America and Germany were just fine with it. Not even sure, but Gandhi even kept plotting against me, or so my spies said. Not even sure what I had done since I only once did a little incursion in the form of converting some of his people to my religion well over 200 turns before.
>>321824517
I like them both. They're so different it doesn't matter if one is better than the other, which I found really nice. It wasn't a straight clone of previous games, so it was like exploring a whole new game, to some degree.
anyone want to play?
how should I make the options?
>>321824610
I want to invent a time machine just so I can go back in time, find the guy who first thought that completely opaque diplomacy would be a good idea, and punch him in the stomach until he learns to think.
>>321824646
Don't even get me started on that little fucking bald cunt
I would rape him with a butchers knife if I could
>>321798853
Here is a guide I made just before Gods and Kings came out.
http://pastebin.com/VpRKkwYu
The tips and stuff I give are from the perspective of having played other Civ games and the idea that each Civ game is built around a core system of game fundamentals (even if it's not immediatly appearent in Civ5).
>>321824517
Pretty much. It doesn't help that Civ V vanilla bordered on unplayable as well. It's kind of insulting when you need to buy a game twice just to have it actually work in the first place.
>>321825145
Vanilla wasn't to bad, but it did only like 3 ways to win, whereas the complete expansions gives you much more replayability and options
>>321825394
It really was bad though. Even once they'd patched it to fix the most glaring of the balance issues, the unit balance was completely fucked and every unit having 10HP was a complete joke. Plus loads of other smaller things, like embarked units dying in one hit.
EVERY FUCKING GAME
EVERY GOD DAMN FUCKING GAME I FUCKING JOIN FUCKING KICKS ME
WHAT THE FUCK?!
>>321825919
That depends on how you like/dislike the sort of stuff. It was still playable enough and fun. But there's certainly no denying the expansions are the superior experience
Post your favorite mod civs
>>321798853
Don't play the ai above 4
5,6,7,8 the ai literraly cheats, find human players
>>321826635
>inb4 Hitler
Messed around with tons of mod races- Alpha Centauri, Warcraft, Elder Scrolls. I liked the celts races cause Im Irish.
>>321826731
>he cant beat civ 5 on difficulty 7
>scenarios always crash and never load properly
what do /v/
Just got Brave New World expansion pack.
What's with this stuff with religion and trade routes? I'm confused.
>>321800072
rollllll
>>321798853
Ugh that game is definitely fucking easy as fuck. AI is so retarded.
>>321800072
rollan
>>321827543
Religion is basically a new form of influence. If you have the same religion or at least ideology as someone else, they'll be more inclined to be friendly with you. Though they wont' hesitate to turn on you should you do something they hate.
Trade routes are like the resource trades, except they have fixed items traded between the civs and can last much longer than "Gold for iron for 10 turns" like what you do with leaders
>>321826635
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=22487
>tfw stuck on king
How do I improve my play? I get completely gassed in the mid game and lose focus on what I want to do to win.
>>321827915
Does this mean that Civ starting impressions are gone now or is this just another way to warm up relations?
I feel like inter-civ trade routes would be hard as hell to manage with barbarians roaming the map.
>>321828493
They're still about the same at the beginning, but now with religions, they can be somewhat more easily swayed to your thinking if you have similar interests. Granted, it's not perfect, as I said, you can have trouble with others even if they're the same religion.
>>321828445
Snuggle up to whoever is taking over the world the best and bribe them whenever someone tries to pick a fight with you.
Building and maintaining relationships is a great way to win games, just don't be afraid to pay out the ass in the beginning
>Picking off trade ships with submarines
ez gold
>Declare war on Sweden because he keeps spreading his religion on me
>He's on another continent
>No intention of going over there
>Send a couple of destroyers to attack his coast cities
>Make a mistake and get two of them killed
>Retreat and just give up on attacking him
>He eventually wants peace and gives me a city
Thanks I guess?
>>321800072
Rollan
Convince me not to reinstall Civ: I fucking hate the gameplay as its just a cheesy stupid board gaem, but the prospect of historical scenarios and tons of achievos are tempting.
I'm not sure this is the best place, but I want to conquer Catherine's sweet Russian ass
>>321830392
>mfw nuking everyone as Maya in 2012
> Can reliably win on Immortal with any civilization with any type of victory unless I'm doing something meme-y like 9 Zulus.
> Deity scratches bullshit levels that I don't have the tolerance for.
I feel like there's nowhere else for me to go with this game. It's why I stopped playing.
>>321830731
What kind of bullshit have they pulled?
>>321830731
personally I always found the scenarios in Civ 5 more compelling than the base game. Playing those on Deity/Immortal was the most fun for me.
>>321830731
Install a shit ton of mods, don't the description, put all settings on random, try to figure out what the fuck is going on with your game.
>>321831672
*don't read the description
So, why aren't you playing the infinitely better version of Civ 5?
>>321824646
>relying on the pc to vote you as world leader
The only way to do that is to have the majority of city states be your ally, get the forbidden city for the extra votes, have globalization with all your spies as diplomats and being in charge of the UN.
>>321800072
Rollan
>>321832130
Can they break their word if you make a trade agreement over the voting?
>>321832441
Don't know. I've never asked them to vote for me. I've always been able to outvote them.
>>321830731
I started playing Multiplayer at that point and stopped because some people can be worse than AI's could ever be
>>321832056
Why aren't you reading the thread?
>>321800072
seems good
>>321808103
Its purpose is stacking Defender of The Faith with Himeji Castle with Shoshone
How do I play Morocco? Literally shittier version of Arabia
>>321835372
>Literally shittier version of Arabia
Except its the best civ in the game for Diplomacy. Endless stacks of gold.
>>321800072
Rolling
>>321836006
>best civ in the game for Diplomacy
>>321836086
ill give that a re-roll
>>321835372
Holy shit thanks for the laughs.
Anyone else got more funny civ shit?
>>321836196
I guess that's another re-roll
>>321800072
rail
>>321800072
roll
