ITT stupid shit /v/ says
>Turn based RPGs are challenging
>It gets better 20 hours in
>>321792358
>ITT stupid shit /v/ says
/thread
>>321792358
>it was good because it sold well
Go play Jagged Alliance, come back after your ass is kicked.
>turn based rpgs are good
It's like missing the point of what roleplaying is about.
>ARPG is fine.
>RTWP is worse than turn-based because rpgcodex says so
>Women can't play video games
>They are shit compared to men
>>321792358
>he never played a turn based RPG
>>321793253
Thats true tho
>>321793081
action rpgs are fine though, unless you're talking about anime rpgs?
>>321793253
this thread is supposed stupid shit not true shit
>>321793012
Not as bad as missing the point in a digitized version of chess.
>>321793253
>implying that's not true
>>321793427
>>321793535
>>321794071
>They actually believe this shit
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>>321794149
Fuck off Laura
> Fallout 4 is a good Fallout
>>321794149
lol delusional angry femicunts always make me laugh
>>321794149
>le females are gamers too! xD
no one cares
>>321792358
>I've never played Etrian Odyssey or SMT
>Genres I'm not intrested are objectively bad.
>>321793253
The amount that people disagree with statements like this and shit on women makes it hard for me to tell what's being posted in a jokingly and memetically and what's actually someone believing it.
I can't tell anymore, but I think whether its either that /pol/ is ruining this site.
inb4 someone calls me an SJW
>>321792358
>hitler did nothing wrong
>>321796007
In my entire life i have never seen in real life nor online more than half a handful of women who are actually into videogames beyond those sluts trying to get attention and donations so excuse me if i don't believe your bullshit about women being able to really get into vidya as much as men do
>>321796403
Maybe try finding women somewhere other than Twitch?
>>321792358
>Nintendo is relevant
>>321796076
Based
>>321794149
It's a result of both genetics and our society that women don't need to do outstanding things. They can simply look good and will reach the ultimate goal: finding one or more desirable sexual partners.
Men on the other hand must prove themselves worthy, so they naturally try to be the best at everything. They are genetically coded to try tobe better than the restor they are whiny trash that doesn't and thus will never reproduce. While gaming provides no advantages in finding apartner, men's instinct to compete and become better at everything will make them try harder than the rest and invest more time into it. Most women would become bored during this process because they simply don't feel that they need gaming skills.They would at most try to pretend to have skillsin order to gain social recognition.
>>321796403
Have you ever gone to college? Female vidya players are everywhere. Maybe not as common and as easy to find as men who play vidya but they're there.
One of my friends on Steam is an IRL friend I've known since highschool who regularly plays vidya when she isn't studying. Which admittedly she studies a hell of a lot more than she plays vidya but still.
But either way, I think its really dumb to make generalizations about people in any case. Do you honestly think that only the people you've met and seen represent the majority of people in the world in the same groups?
>IV was my first SMT
>>321796890
This whole paragraph implies that everyone's purpose is to reproduce. That's retarded.
Fuck off /pol/.
>>321792837
>Good games sell like shit.
Hurt feelings don't mean shit.
Numbers do not lie fag.
>Western games are good
>>321797105
>implying marketing or having a recognizable name is the sole decider in whether or not a game sells
Quality doesn't mean shit when it comes to sales.
>>321796890
Genetics is not very important in the modern age. Everyone just does what they need to to survive and have fun nowadays. Women and men compete as equals in the job market as well as elsewhere. Women enjoy video games too.
>>321796890
http://vocaroo.com/i/s18cEngCZRqv
>>321797105
Guess we can stop calling CoD bad now.
>>321797494
>The Japanese game industry isn't in a serious decline!
>>321797043
>>321797584
A few hundred years of "modern society" won't change thousands of years of evolution. I'm not even complaining, I'm just stating the obvious.
>>321792609
that manjaw
>>321797584
>Genetics is not very important in the modern age
>Women and men compete as equals in the job market
I bet you're voting for Bernie
>>321797043
>This whole paragraph implies that everyone's purpose is to reproduce. That's retarded.
It's not actually, it's basically our prime directive. The most powerful natural urge a normal human can feel is to reproduce, nigga that shit so ingrained in the human psyche it transcends your conscious thought.Which means you thinking bout it even when you think you ain't thinking bout it
>it's a meme game
>>321797584
>>321797762
What do you guys think is the purpose of games?
>>321797584
>Quality doesn't mean shit when it comes to sales
>Object's worth is how much the buyer is willing to pay.
>No one's willing to buy
>Must mean it's worth more
>>321797989
Not that guy, and I disagree with almost everything he said, but why is Bernie sanders bad again?
Not even american, but if I had a choice between Sanders, Clinton and Trump I would think the choice is pretty clear.
>its a good game, just not a good _____ game
>>321798347
>A presidential candidate that allows random niggers to walk up on stage and stop his rally short.
Hahahaha no.
You need leadership qualities, not promises for free shit.
>>321798325_______________________Fun._____________________
Or money, from a business point of view.
>>321798325
Depends on your perspective and the type of game.
If you are trying to imply that an educational game released for free is all about making a profit then go take your special brand of retarded elsewhere.
>>321798347
There's a reason you disagree with everything hes says. Everything he says is stupid and is only said to bait the young dumb voters a la Obama
Not to mention he just doesn't have the abilty to lead.
>>321797989
I am. Bernie is the only person running that has any chance of winning that isn't complete shit. Donald Trump is completely retarded and actually thinks he can make Mexico pay to build a fucking wall, and Hillary Clinton is just untrustworthy.
Meanwhile at worst, Bernie could fuck up the economy. He's not retarded and is well meaning. It all comes down to whether or not he'd actually be able to do what he wants to and whether or not he can actually do everything he wants to without further pushing this country down the bad economy rabbit hole.
>>321798553
Leadership qualities don't necessarily get anything good done. It just means he can get people behind him and have support and has the people in mind when he does things.
>>321798325
The purpose of games is for them to be enjoyable for the person playing them. Beyond that, the purpose depends on the game itself.
>>321798332
Tell me all about how good Star Wars Battlefront and Call of Duty are anon. Tell me all about how shit Earthbound was when it came out and how terrible Psychonauts and Okami were when they first came out.
>>321798665
>Thinks businesses can afford to pump out games for millions of dollars for no profit
And tell me, what are the quality of these free educational games.
Bet they aren't anywhere near AAA quality, nor as entertaining.
I bet you're with that fag voting for sanders.
>>321796007
No value judgements, it's just a simple, observable fact that there are not nearly as many women who play games at the absolute highest level as there are men. The most reasonable explanation is that video games are not something women are typically interested in as a serious hobby or pastime.
>>321798870
Muh democracy
>>321795818
True for me, honestly it just sounds like weeb crap to me doesn't interest me in the slightest
>>321799168
Way to miss the point entirely, you fucking dumbass.
>>321799131
Why did you specify Earthbound, Okami, and Psychonauts on release?
Because it damages your argument.
Post release sales count you massive brain dead moron.
Which also undermines your statement and cause severely.
But do go on, what great games sell like fucking garbage?
And before you note gamecube exclusives, take note of how many gamecubes sold before making a solid number your retarded benchmark.
>>321798685
No, I meant I disagreed with everything previous anon said. Bernie seems to me like the most logical candidate. Unless you guys like getting fucked in the ass by health insurance every time you get a splinter. Which is seeming more and more like it is the case.
>>321798553
>>321798685
>Leadership
Oh so you don't know what you're talking about.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-119082
>Sanders: How about the president of the united states actually leading the American people?
>Clinton : Tell me something real.
Wow, what inspiring leadership!
I mean I don't know too much about Trump but I can't imagine his policies are too well thought out.
>>321799241
To be honest the weeb stuff is pretty low in the games. But I mentioned it because the games have a large emphasis on strategy in their turn-based battles and push you to use buffs and debuffs to strenthen your party and weaken your opponents/slow them down. You need to prevent your opponents from attacking as much as possible, hit their weak points, and minimize damage to your own party as much as possible or else you won't get far.
As weeb as it appears, I really like how hardcore the Etrian Odyssey games are gameplay wise. You spend hours just roaming around dungeons getting into fights.
>>321799413
>Notes games aren't for profit because a small margin release for free.
>Get BTFO
>M-missed the point..
Typical.
>>321799454
>The amount a game sells represents its quality!
>Except when it doesn't. I'm still right, though!
>>321799686
>I'm going to arbitrarily leave out post game sales because it blows me the fuck out.
Aight, guess word of mouth isn't a business model because you say so.
>>321792358
>op is not a fagot
>>321799548
>Tell me something real
Meaning, don't spout out vague nothing-statements like that. Same shit Trump does when he answers every question with "it's gonna be great, you're all gonna love it" it means nothing and offers zero insight into how it might actually be accomplished.
>>321799628
>>Notes games aren't for profit because a small margin release for free.
Nobody in this entire thread said anything resembling that, you fucking low functioning cum stain.
>you are from reddit
>>321799454
I pointed those out because it took a long time for people to see the value in them as titles.
If you want to talk about games selling poorly overall that are good, I can't think of any that couldn't be argued as weak titles. Any non-anime Cyberconnect2 title perhaps, such as Asura's Wrath, .hack//, and Solatorobo? I need more time to think of some titles. But why did you ignore mentioning Battlefront and Call of Duty, and why are you undermining how important marketing is in sales?
I think games themselves indicate their value through their quality, and that market value and game value are two very different things.
>Dota 2 is an actual strategy game
>>321799925
So why bring up free games and claim they're not for profit?
Unless you're the kind of sperg that brings up random shit in the classroom.
>>321799861
Did you even read the fucking article? Or did you miss the part where Bernie brought both Stephanie Woolhandler and David Himmelstien to the meeting and discussed a very in depth plan.
>>321800069
>I pointed those out because it took a long time for people to see the value in them as titles.
But they still did, meaning your statement is just harming your own argument.
>But why did you ignore mentioning Battlefront and Call of Duty, and why are you undermining how important marketing is in sales?
Because there's nothing to argue.
Why would people buy a game year after year if it was truly THAT bad?
Your tastes mean dick, jack, those games sell because people see the ad and go "I want that" and they do the opposite for shitty games.
>>321798870
>Donald Trump is completely retarded and actually thinks he can make Mexico pay to build a fucking wall
He can. He won't be getting a check from the Mexican government, but by cutting back on aid and offsetting the trade deficit Mexico will effectively be paying for the wall. The guy isn't le stupid evil racist. He's a master negotiator who made billions. You can't do that if you're "completely retarded". There's only a thousand billionaires in the world. It requires ridiculous smarts.
>Meanwhile at worst, Bernie could fuck up the economy
At worst? The economy is the life blood of society. If that's gone it's game, set, and match.
>/v/ is a great place for actual unbiased discussion of video games
>>321792842
>JA
>Turn-based RPG
>>321800131
Because you were asking a loaded question and I just fucked you with it.
>>321800131
>most games are for profit
>therefore all games are for profit, including the ones that are entirely free and don't profit on microtransactions, ads, or anything else
>most birds fly
>therefor all birds fly, including emus and penguins
>most mammals don't fly
>therefor no mammals fly, including bats
>>321800474
By backpeddling and admitting you were wrong?
Interesting.
>>321796007
women in general are shit at video games, there are exceptions, that's it.
>>321800589
People in general are shit at everything, m8.
>>321800589
Most people are shit at video games though.
>>321800409
>Your tastes mean dick, jack, those games sell because people see the ad and go "I want that" and they do the opposite for shitty games.
So you're saying the advertising is the most important part of a game?
>>321800780
Why would you not want your target audience to know about the game?
Don't tell me you're some sekret club retard?
>>321800541
If you can't follow a simple discussion, maybe its best not to have one.
>>321800428
>He's a master negotiator who made billions
And also went bankrupt several times.
Also why didn't he just explain HOW he was going to get Mexico to pay in that sense? Because just making a statement like that makes it sound like he's trying to get Mexico to send a check.
>he isn't le evil racist
He's posted false statistics on Twitter to make claims about blacks as criminals in the country.
>>321800875
He's asking what point you're even trying to make now, detective.
>>321799548
>I mean I don't know too much about Trump but I can't imagine his policies are too well thought out.
So then read them? They're on his website senpai:
https://jebbush.com
>>321798662
Exactly so the game which brings the most fun to the most peoole is the best game which means LoL for example is a good game. Your "good taste" doesnt mean shit and dont bring you any further.
>>321801063
That bad games sell like shit and good games sell well.
Herp derp.
>>321800875
this guy here, take everything he said and you got /thread
>>321800875
>the most important part of a game is ads
>not gameplay
>not sound design
>not writing
>not even graphics
>ads
Ok, so you're retarded, good to know.
>>321801110
>>321801129
Undertale confirmed GotY.
>I can't get good at a game
>therefore it's bad
>>321801267
>Making a game when you have no marketing strategy
Holy shit how dumb?
Also going to extremes really makes you look desperate.
>>321800950
>And also went bankrupt several times.
Wrong. Some companies he owned went bankrupt. He himself never went bankrupt. Please do not believe the first piece of media you read, look into it and find the truth.
>How
He hasn't explained how he's going to do anything yet. He's in the support-gathering phase, not the policy phase.
>He's posted false statistics on Twitter to make claims about blacks as criminals in the country.
He retweeted false statistics. And it's not like the sentiment was wrong, proportionally commit way more crimes than any other race. This is a well-known fact.
>shooters are good
>[WESTERN GAME] is GOTY
>[PC exclusive] is engaging and challenging
>[multiplayer game] is like a whole different game every match!
>>321801426
>Making a game when you have no marketing strategy
Worked out real fucking well for undertale, ftl, cave story and last but not least minecraft
Can I ask you something personal, do you enjoy getting fucked at every logical turn point?
Because I enjoy fucking you.
>>321801670
>Some companies he owned went bankrupt.
Sounds like the perfect man to make important financial decisions affecting my entire country.
>>321801803
>Implying those games didn't have marketing strategies.
Holy shit.
The fact that you acted so smug about not knowing what you're talking about makes it even funnier.
Marketing strats don't need to be money intensive you stupid fuck.
>>321801765
>weebs are open minded and unbiased
>>321792837
this is literally the opposite of the /v/ hive mind
>>321801959
The point being that the game was the main focus, the marketing was secondary.
Holy fuck could you try and keep up? I'm trying to educate you.
>>321802032
This thread sure isn't convincing me of that.
>>321801959
>The fact that you acted so smug about not knowing what you're talking about makes it even funnier.
Holy shit, the amount of irony in this sentence is fucking amazing.
>>321802240
At no point did I state marketing was the primary focus of game development, I stated it was important and merely didn't answer your retarded question of it being priority #1
Since then you've been jumping to conclusions like mad because you want to prove you can win your first internet fight in front of all of your "friends"
Why do you feel the need to validate your shit taste so much to claim that if a game sells like shit it obviously was "Misunderstood"?
Sad.
>>321802264
that's because these threads are full of deluded newfags. every single time. calling out /v/ in the third person is always a sign of this
>its okay for a game to be buggy because otherwise it would be too easy
I shit you not
>>321798087
Then why is it that the thought of having children utterly disgusts and terrorizes me?
>>321792837
What a pair of qt's
>>321800950
>And also went bankrupt several times.
He's never filed for bankruptcy himself. A few of his companies filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy. Which is used for restructuring. It's not the type of thing most people think of when they hear "bankruptcy". Also keep in mind the guy has like 100 companies. There is no such thing as a successful businessperson that didn't have a few screw ups along the way. The important thing to take away from this is that Trump handled the situation effectively and didn't let it hurt him overall.
>Also why didn't he just explain HOW he was going to get Mexico to pay
Again, master negotiator. He wrote the book on this stuff. Art of the Deal. Look it up. Maybe read it.
You don't reveal all your cards right away.
>He's posted false statistics on Twitter to make claims about blacks as criminals in the country.
And as a result the media was forced to report the real statistics, which still show that there is massive crime problems within the black community.
>>321802484
>Your tastes mean dick, jack, those games sell because people see the ad and go "I want that" and they do the opposite for shitty games.
basically what you're saying is
>games are good because their adds are effective
You seem to forget making that statement. Not that it surprises me really. That being said if I have to keep track of what you're saying there's not much point in me continuing this argument, as it seems I'm the only one paying attention.
>>321803010
It's obvious this thread is full of Bernie cucks that can't understand basic economics or business.
>>321802802
Does it stop you having sex? Or wanting to?
>>321803167
>games are good because their adds are effective
>People are no longer allowed to buy products they want.
Can't market a shooter to someone that doesn't like shooters dude.
Ads only reach out to target demographics, they don't convert people to the shooter dudebro religion.
It's obvious with that minimalistic grasp on business you're a Bernie supporter.
"Shittily sold games deserve sequels! I deserve them for free!"
>Neptunia is a good game
I can never take someone seriously if they stand by this
>zsnes is the worst emulator
>>321803652
>Game appeals to its demographic and turns a profit
>Bad.
>>321798508
Why do people have a problem with this kind of sentiment? If the next mainline Mario game, not even a spinoff, were a first-person shooter with zero platforming somehow, but actually pretty fucking good for a FPS, would you not argue that it was a good FPS but not really a good Mario game?
>>321803506
Holy shit, I've never seen someone get proven so wrong that they completely lose the plot. Good show, anon.
>>321803976
Critical thinking isn't a strong point here.
Just look at all of the retards who imply videogames shouldn't need to deal in business practices at all.
Probably the same people that praise AMD for sharing all it's tech and getting mad at Nvidia for not being stupid enough to give away it's edge.
Children that can't take sides or fully grasp what a business is or does.
>Turn based RPGs are good
>>321804340
Took you 8 minutes to retreat with a catch all statement to make it look like you weren't mercilessly hammered by someone who knows their shit.
What did you major in Berniecuck?
>>321803010
I stand corrected.
