game series you loved but are now pretty much dead.
this fucking shit right here, played it for 10 solid years non-stop and now it's not even close to the game it was with the original trilogy.
Was halo 5 really that bad?
>>321757689
same shit can be appied on RE series
the first Resident evil trilogy was bomb but the rest is shitty
>>321759081
yeah man, literally re skinned cod with slightly longer TTKs
warzone is kinda meh but I miss big team battle
>>321759081
All sources, say yes.
>>321759292
I also find it hilarious that a ton of sonyggers bought an xbone for this shit when it's one of the worst halo's yet.
they're a little late and would've been better off doing this about 8 years ago
>>321757689
halo 1-3 was where it was at
i agree about playing 10 years, ódst came out 2010 and that was the last i was able to play
This picture pretty much sums up my situation, halo died after reach but now that its shit all my friends who didnt like halo think its great
>>321759648
>but now that its shit all my friends who didnt like halo think its great
that's because they're late to the party and don't want to believe they missed out
halo's online population did shit the bed after reach but personally I feel like reach is what started the track it's on now
it wasn't traditional halo but it was still ok for some fun..like a mod
Seriously I quit playing halo 5 after about 2 hours I went back to the master chief collection but either the servers are fucking shit or its dead cause it takes for fucking ever to find a game, halo is kill 343 is shit the light has gone out of my life.
>>321760232
it's fucking bullshit that they think they need to change the game that much desu
H2A was different but it was still halo and fun to play
honestly if halo 5 had of been like H2A with more maps and h5's campaign with h2's ranking system I would've been happy
>middle of the way racing games are dead
>nothing but boring sims and LOLSORANDUMB Kart from now on
>>321759081
Nope, best since 2.
>>321760760
But 3 was better than 2.
>>321760760
go away
Is anyone else surprised how not of a big deal Halo 5 was?
Shit I know the Xone isn't doing great but around Halo 3 it was absolutely insanely huge. Halo 5's hype was mediocre at best at after it came out it fell of the face of the earth.
Was MCC the straw that broke the camels back?
>>321759081
Nope, best FPS of the generation so far. Normies are pissed they made the game fresh again and revitalized what was always a second rate pc fps into its own thing
>>321760828
I feel like they were kind of the same game but 3 had some minor improvements in the multiplayer besides the obvious graphics update
>>321760916
>Halo
>pc fps
I played Halo for the storyline. Read all the books, etc. Halo 5 took a massive shit on the story and ruined the whole series for me. I haven't gotten a xbone because I knew it was shit, but seeing as Halo is now also shit, ive got no reason to give MicroShit my money.
>>321760916
>Normies are pissed they made the game fresh
actually the normies are the ones who are very happy about this
halo is the last fps that should have sprint, now it's literally a tacticool shooter
who really cares when pic related is more popular/more competitive than halo is now
>>321759081
console war faggots unsurprisingly hate it
most people whove demonstrated a knowledge and history of halo have said its the best multiplayer since 2
>>321760836
Halo 2 was always trash
>>321761067
and so are you
>>321761040
Halo was normie central from day one.
Adding sprint does not make it more like CoD dipshit
>all the I HATE HALO, OMG WHAT HAPPENED HALO threads come out during euro-time
>all the HOW DOES PS4 SELL SO MUCH? WHY DONT YOU OWN A PS4? threads come out during euro-time
nothing to see here
>>321761130
it actually makes it worse than cod since the ttks area longer and sprint is still get out of jail free
the 4v4 maps are also shit tier/ruined because of it
we'll never see a 4v4 map from 1-3 ever again unless it's not at all the same like truth
>>321757689
Any long term Halo player knew Halo died when Bungie stopped making it.
I'm more saddened by Bungie selling out and making an instanced MMO that is neither good nor fun, than I am about Halo 4/5 being shit, which was obvious to anyone who cared to pay attention to Reach's development and Bungie's departure.
Oh shut the fuck up /v/, you never "loved" Halo
Go take your console war agendas and fuck off back to your copy of Knack.
>>321761249
Honestly the opening cinematic was the best part about Destiny, when I saw that I was thinking this was going to be a master piece and then the game started.
>>321761249
>Any long term Halo player knew Halo died when Bungie stopped making it.
Piss off, 5s multiplayer is infinitely better than Reach's sad not-quite-CoD abomination, not as bad as 4 going full CoD but still.
>>321761254
I actually did love halo now I just acknowledge it;'s existence.
>>321761063
>>321760760
>best since 2
just accept this meme will never ever catch on
this game is fucking nothing like a halo should be
>>321761358
>ruined maps because of sprint
>broken dead zone aim mechanics
>meaningless ranking system, why have one?
>fastest TTKs in the entire series, WOW IT'S HALO YO SO HARDCORE MAN, fuckoff
the series died when reach was released
reach 4 and 5 all suck dick
halo 6 will be just as bad, it'll be different than 5 and all the new players will hate it because they were never fans anyway
>>321761004
It was originally on pc. They released it for xbox later. from 2 forward it has been xbox only
>>321761352
>thinking a game will be a masterpiece after watching a cinematic
Neo-/v/ everybody
>>321757689
and now its a shitty halo clone with QTEs everywhere
>>321760232
i know your pain
>get xbone for MCC and H5
>MCC is a calamity
>fast forward a year
>H5 if fucking retarded
>try going back to MCC
>still barely works
>cant wake up
i just want out at this point, on the bright side it convinced me to build a PC
>>321761217
You just need to git gud
>>321761817
>doom is now shitty halo
>halo is now shitty cod
>cod is now actual shit
>hitman is now shitty splinter cell
rip gaming
>>321761704
You are completely fucking backwards. Halo 1 was originally planned a Mac exclusive, then PC and Mac, then Microsoft bought Bungie and Halo 1 came on Xbox in 2001 -- a PC port came in 2003. Halo 2 came to PC in 2007. Fuck you.
>>321761545
You're listing ways that it's different, but you dont have any reasons it's bad other than "it's different"?
>>321761793
Besides the fact that I liked their last 4 games and 2 of their series naturally I would have thought bungie was going to impress again
>>321759081
It's just *fine*. That's it. If it didn't have the Halo name on it, it'd be one of those games that no pays any attention to when it's released, and then ends up in the bargain bin a month later.
>>321761817 >>321761916
Acually I played the beta and as a doom fan I actually really liked it, its much better than what it was originally going to be. It was pretty much going to be call of duty but replace the russians and terrorists with demons.
>>321762028
how the fuck can you honestly think 5 is any better than 4 aside from no loadouts?
>sprint is back and only slightly nerfed when it shouldn't be in there at all
>thrusters are back
>hitmarkers
>announcing whne weapons are up (this is new and bad for competitive)
theres more but I only played it for like a week when it first came out and I can't remember
pretty sure h2 and 3's ranking systems were both better by far
>>321761916
>splinter cell now plays like an even more casualized gears of war with stealth tacked on
>MS will probably find a way to ruin the new gears of war somehow
fuck this industry fampai
Why do people think Halo 5 is bad?
I mean, the story wasn't great, but the gameplay is absolutely great.
It can be played EXACTLY like Halo 1, 2 or 3, or 4, or even Reach. It is Halo through and through.
Just now you have a cool boost dodge, a slide, and a ground pound. How is that "what killed halo"?
Are you all retards?
And trust me, this is coming from a massive Halo autist. I've been playing since the first game when I was 11yrs old (22 now).
>>321762017
Didn't mean to get you booty tickled.
>>321761358
People keep failing to realize that Halos most dedicated fans didn't give 4 a single fucking second of love, thus 5 is only getting credit where credit is due, if a games shit it gets shit, if a games good it gets praise
>go back to Destiny after Halo 5
>mobility and weapons feel like absolute shit
>the TK music is forgettable compared to Jinnouchis synthy orchestra mixes
343i have surpassed Bungie in every way except story and world building now
>>321762330
But gears is already pretty solid gameplay wise, how could they ruin it?
>>321762645
it's because destiny is a lot like reach mechanic wise, and reach was shit..
>>321762720
Destiny is far from being like reach, reach was actually really good.
>>321762691
turn it into a shitty uncharted clone?
>>321762645
yep, Neo-Bungie is fucking shit and exists only to pleasure Activision, they got rid of Marty ffs
343 are really busting their balls EXCEPT in single player campaigns, Christ they need to completely replace that department right now
>>321762645
forge is also way better than anything bungie built now, just lacking some proper file sharing capabilities
>>321757689
>played it for 10 solid years non-stop and now it's not even close to the game it was with the original trilogy.
I've played since I was a teenager when CE came out and I'd disagree with you. Halo 5's mechanics feel closer to what a fucking Spartan should be than anything else that's been around. Every weapon is balanced, all gameplay elements are balanced, the game quite simply plays fantastically.
The only negatives are 343i's infantile plot development and drip feeding multiplayer content to the userbase. Also the MP is pretty tryhard.
Console war faggots are really the only ones that shit on it, or just plain faggots that will bitch about anything on the internet for the sake of bitching.
>>321761017
Didn't Reach already take a steaming dump on the books?
And then didn't 4 take that book/shitpile and chuck it in an incinerator?
>>321765765
Yes but don't upset his "shit on H5, and only H5" moment.
/v/ is cancer
>>321761545
>the series died when reach was released
>reach 4 and 5 all suck dick
>halo 6 will be just as bad, it'll be different than 5 and all the new players will hate it because they were never fans anyway
Mother. Fucking. This.
>>321765509
I wish the Railgun wasn't so easy to use. It looks cool, and is so satisfying to shoot.
>>321762860
it's literally the same engine you moron
destiny is reach with iron sights and rpg elements
just look at when guardians/Spartans walk/run
it's the exact same animation
destiny is a shittier game of a shitty game if you can imagine that
>>321765509
im not going to get into this with you but halo is dying because of how different it is now
1 and 2 had the best maps and we'll never see those again
at least in 3 they could've been remade for it
>>321766326
>halo is dying because of how different it is now
Halo 1 and 2 aren't even the same game in the slightest.
>>321766454
except they were a lot closer together than what it is now
>>321757689
>Finishing the Campaign
I'M GETTING HALO 2 FLASHBACKS, AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY.Otherwise I enjoyed it
>>321766639
campaign wise
multplayer wise I'm having halo 4 flashbacks with shittier 4v4 maps
>>321766326
I'm not going to get into this with you but you aren't an authority on what "Halo" is or isn't. 343i was tasked with making a game fun to play and they did that. If they shit on what /you/ think Halo is there's always the old games to play.
I don't believe the franchise is anywhere near dying. Sure it isn't as popular as it used to be but that doesn't mean it's dead. The market is saturated and Halo's MP is tryhard as fuck. Casuals get rekt and move on. It's one of the legitimate gripes I have with Halo 5. Not enough social playlists and fun fuckery. My two cents.
>>321766714
I vaguely remember around 3 moments from all of H4's campaign. Most unfun gaming experience I've ever put myself through. The multiplayer honestly wasn't TERRIBLE, but still far from great.
>>321766454
>>321766540
did you die?
idk how
>Halo 1 and 2 aren't even the same game in the slightest.
is even an argument about how bad halo is now
>>321767056
not a single map in h5 is better than haven and tbqh haven was shit
Everything Konami has ever made, plus Bomberman
>>321767075
Compared to the first game, 2 is pretty garbage. Bungie decided to fuck with a bunch of shit that never needed to be fucked with in the first place in order to make the game easier for normies.
Halo 5 is fucking great though, its exactly the evolution it needed in terms of gameplay
>>321767154
I agree with Haven being shit, but I still like Eden and Plaza.
>>321759081
multiplayer God tier
story fubar
>>321767773
Empire>>>
>>321767917
Empire is dogshit. The only thing that could potentially save it is not playing it in Halo 5.
>>321767637
1 n 2 pretty much had the same maps, family
it's funny you say they made the game easier for normies yet its even more casual now than ever
the h5 maps are actually worse than h4's
>>321768272
>1 n 2 pretty much had the same maps
They shared like 5 maps. Wizard sucked in 1, and Tombstone/Desolation sucked in 2. The games played absolutely nothing alike to make the remakes feel anything like the original maps.
Unless you're the kind of retard who thinks the quality of an FPS lies solely in its map design.
>>321768584
>Unless you're the kind of retard who thinks the quality of an FPS lies solely in its map design.
it's literally the most important thing in an fps LOL
anyway, we're going off topic. halo now is nothing like 1-3 in general
reach/4/5 suck
5 is so much more like 4 than any of the original 3
>>321768791
>maps
>more important than the guns
>>321766970
>343i was tasked with making a game fun to play and they did that
No. They don't
Get the fuck out you shill
>>321768874
>lets play on a shitty map that nobody likes with good guns
>going further off topic
>>321769027
>let's play that game with great maps but the worst gunplay imaginable
It works both ways, retard.
>>321769140
halo 5 is more like halo 4 than any of the originals, to be honest, family
>>321769219
Yeah, but Halo 2 is closer to 3 than 1.
And Halo 3 was junk.
>>321769454
we aint talking about the state of halo 10 years ago
>>321769870
Halo died when 2 came out.
5 is doing a better job at reviving it than any of the games before it.
>>321768902
Fuck off, cuckboi.
>>321759081
Worst campaign, best multiplayer
Majority of /v/'s experience with Halo is just casual co-op at that one friend who owned an xbox's house and then 90% customs on halo 3 and reach, take that however you may.
Strongholds on symmetric BTB maps is fucking cancer though. The ranking system is also fucked despite 343 saying they fixed it to be more accurate. The game should've at least shipped with all the content that's on it now, but 343 is doing the roll-out-free-content-to-keep-game-alive-meme because it boosts their ego and they are still making mad bank from the req packs.
>>321761832
At least you weren't dumb enough to think switching to a PS4 would be any better
>>321770810
>Worst campaign, best multiplayer
Honestly I'm always surprised by the amount of people who seem to care about Halo's story.
I got some Axe bathroom pack for xmas and it had Halo 5 stuff on it. Here is a code if anyone wants it. Its supposed to be for some recon armor?
JSXWQTND enter that at www.axe.com/Halo5
>>321771082
i think it was just more of the investment in characters the cutscenes created. Not to Staten's discredit, Halo does't have an amazing story, but the dialogue really makes the characters stand out.
>>321771328
Thanks for the 3000 RP, anon.
>>321771376
I played the shit out of Halo 1 but never really got into 2 or 3. I played 3 a bit for the multiplayer because I had friends who liked it but I would have rather played COD4 or Gears
>>321771896
No problem man. I don't have an xbone so I couldn't do anything with it.
>>321760890
>343 already shit the bed with Halo 4 and MCC
>343's female boss went full retard and publically said she wants to be the next George Lucas and then removed blood from the game amongst other full retard stuff
>Beta was an utter shitfest that even the paid shills couldn't hide
People had plenty of time to come to terms that Halo was already dead my mane.
>>321770115
it didn't die when 2 came out
3 was the peak population wise, wtf are you talking about?
4 was dead within a year and now they're not even showing the population
take halo 1 2 3 and 5 and which one is the odd one out? sure h1 was a lil more different than 2 and 3 but none of them have
>sprint
>announcing when weapons are up
>massive 4v4 'arena" maps
>hitmarkers
>"smartscope"
>>321772457
Who cares when the base game sucks imop
>>321772457
forgot
>thrusters
and that's just talking about things added to the game I didn't evne mention the broken aiming mechanics and useless ranking system
>>321772640
I really hope you're not the same guy I've been talking to because the base game of h5 is still shit even without all that stupid garb
halo is dead
Halo 5 couldn't hold me, a decade-old player of Halo, for more than a month. It plays great, sure, but the lack of content and a soul is what really drove me away. The campaign was utterly ludicrous, and wasn't what was advertised, even in the slightest. REQs were originally cool, but now that I've come to realize that every non-shit armour is a 0.888% in Gold packs only, they've became a cancer to me.
This game feels like the greatest innovation in the series yet... but, as stated, it has nigh lack of content to hold me in.
>>321772807
>fast base movement
>good strafe
>can crouch while moving
>guns shoot straight
What's the matter with it?
>Microsoft is going to milk the shit out of Halo for the next decade
Please god no. I don't think I could handle another 343 abomination.
>>321773183
Not like it would've been better with bungie desu
Who should handle halo once Haah Waaw 2 and 6 are flops?
>>321773391
Certain Affinity (with more staff) I think Wars 2 might sell decently
>>321773391
Haah waaw is a niche, I don't think the first one sold that much either
>>321759081
The campaign, yes.
The multiplayer and now forge are literally the best they've ever been.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcMTDZoMzM4
Only thing the game is missing is more customs options, which'll probably be a later update. Sucks that they're not in right now, but I can cope with my arena for now.
>>321767846
>>321770810
>>321773980
The campaign is fine, and the story is alright, it does both a lot right and a lot wrong.
>>321760931
>>321760828
Both of you are insane
>>321761524
And why is that exactly? Because it has mechanics other FPS's have despite the fact they are implemented well and it still feels like halo?
>>321773551
You mean Certain Framedrops?
>>321774612
>the campaign is fine
>>321774742
It is. A lot of the missions are short but they are all well designed and have nice setpieces and encounters.
>>321774927
If a mainline Halo game has a campaign with more emphasis on some nobody newcomer instead of the Chief, there's a problem
>Only 3 Chief missions
>>321775491
That has nothing to do with the campaign, that has to do with the story. Campaign as in the missions themselves.
And even then I'd say you are wrong. Chief is one of the most boring parts of the halo universe, and you should be judging what it is, not what it's not. "It's not X" isn't valid criticism.That said locke manages to be even more boring then cheif, which IS valid criticism.
Also, Reach exists.
>b-but reach isn't a mainlne halo game
Yes, it is.
>>321774695
Hence the need for more staff.
>>321775878
Does Reach have a number on it? No? Then it's not a mainline game.
>>321759634
Yup series died after Halo 3. Don't care what anyone says THIS IS WHERE IT DIED!
>>321775628
>That first Chief/Locke fight
I thought seeing two spartans fight would have been epic, instead I found myself looking away from the screen in embarrassment
>>321772654
>broken aiming mechanics
You high nigga?
>>321776173
That's a dumb qualifier.
It was intended to be a mainline halo game so it was. It had a full length campaign, it had full online and local multiplayer, it was released 3 years after the precious mainline halo game just like the rest of them, and bungie treated it like a mainline halo game.
There are plenty of franchises where main titles lose the #.
>>321776339
>>321759634
ODST didn't come out in 2010. How come all of these people on /v/ claim to like halo and feel they are in a position to comment on things but don't know jack fucking shit about the franchise?
You are either dudebro normies who only care about the cheif andd probably got mad when you had to play as the arbiter or are halo 3 babies.
>>321760364
I hated H2A's multiplayer. It felt nothing like Bungie's Halo and instead felt exactly like Halo 4 but with Halo 2's features. I would have settled for just them using the Halo 2/3 engine with the remastered graphics.
>>321765765
Halo 5 is fanfiction I can take fanfiction no matter how bad it is, but what Reach did was unforgivable that game shitted on canon from every game that wasn't ODST along with novels & comics. I dare a Reach faggot to defend that piece of shit of a Halo game.
>>321776339
3 was shit
>>321765765
>>321776742
>reach retconned the books meme
Confirmed for not even reading the fucking journal that came with the game, see >>321776687
>How come all of these people on /v/ claim to like halo and feel they are in a position to comment on things but don't know jack fucking shit about the franchise?
>>321775628
Next Halo better be a Chief only game with Blue Team by his side the entire time. They pull this shit off again, I'm done with this franchise.
Test
>>321776727
if you hated h2a then wtf did you think of h5? LOl cuz it's even closer to h4
>>321776727
>It felt nothing like Bungie's Halo and instead felt exactly like Halo 4 but with Halo 2's features.
What the fuck does this even mean, it plays exactly like halo 2
>>321772986
>fast base movement
doesn't make up for sprint and the massive 4v4 maps. game pace is also based on map size
>can crouch while moving
u mean like cod?
>guns shoot straight
are you talking about br lead in h3? im not defending h3 but it's sad to say that it was still better
>>321775878
>Chief is one of the most boring parts of the halo universe
Every Halo that starts another character in a Halo game was the boring & most shittiest aspects in the franchise; when Master Chief is around that is the only time & I mean the ONLY time the game is good. Arbiter was the only character they did that was good without the Chief & felt just as big & involved as Chief instead of feeling like an insignificant ant.
>>321777479
I hate resorting to "You have shit taste", but...
You gotta explain in more detail what you disliked about ODST and reach then. Have you read any of the books?
>>321776865
Your mom was shit.
>>321776687
Let's see b/c Bungie claimed that in ODST you were suppose to feel like a Human not a Spartan. In ODST you were not suppose to be able to move fast, one-man army Covenant, rip turrets, hijack vehicles, beat down Covenant, lift heavy weapons, or flip vehicles, but somehow you can't use human made equipments, or dual-wield weapons. Wow ODSTs are weaker than Miranda since they can't dual-wield a weapon. Plus all of the characters sucked, Campaign was shorts, & the story was ass, lets also not forget about Stamina being shields.
My problem with Halo 5 and 343 in general is that their art and aesthetics aren't intriguing at all.
I miss campaign environments that look like The Arbiter and Sacred Icon.
I miss multiplayer maps that look like Colossus and Guardian.
The encounter design has gotten considerably better, but every space just feels too "human" for me. Meridian is a good example of this.
None of the new maps (AKA not Truth) in Halo 5 feel like they actually belong in the series, regardless of how they play. Plaza, Empire, and Eden all come to mind.
Lastly, remixing maps is lazy shit and needs to stop.
>>321776910
Sounding like a 343 shill again. Like I said in another thread, If you need an outside source to tell your story then your story is shit. You sound like a 343 fag telling me to read the book. FYI that piece of shit known as Reach wasn't worth buying the shitty limited addiction for.
So many people overrating the xbox one, what good exclusives does it have apart from Tomb Raider (releasing on PC) and Halo 5?
>>321778486
>what good exclusives does it have apart from Tomb Raider
>mentioning tomb raider
>a shitty casual single player experience
this is how I know you're bad and have shit opinions
>>321778346
You are complaining about the fact that reach was seemingly inconsistent with a book to begin with though. If books aren't important and don't matter then nothing in reach is a problem to begin with.
>Sounding like a 343 shill again.
343 didn't make reach.
Is this bait?
>>321777418
Nah, Halo 3's BR was random as fuck.
>>321759081
No. It's better than Reach and 4 by a mile. The map design is suspect sometimes, but the mobility options with dashing and mantling made the game feel totally different and faster.
>>321757689
Assassin's Creed, for me. I loved the series, flaws and all, up until the royal fuckup that was 3. I know, I know, Black Flag was pretty good, but I still haven't gotten around to it. Anything else since is just so obviously a quick rehash of buggy shit, and I don;t want to give Ubi any more money after their 2014;
>>321777768
Here is my post from earlier about ODST.
Let's see b/c Bungie claimed that in ODST you were suppose to feel like a Human not a Spartan. In ODST you were not suppose to be able to move fast, one-man army Covenant, rip turrets, hijack vehicles, beat down Covenant, lift heavy weapons, or flip vehicles, but somehow you can't use human made equipments, or dual-wield weapons. Wow ODSTs are weaker than Miranda since they can't dual-wield a weapon. Plus all of the characters sucked, Campaign was shorts, & the story was ass, lets also not forget about Stamina being shields.
With Reach.
from a gameplay perspective it's the exact opposite of ODST. Why the fuck am I so slow, why does my shields suck, why is my melee broken, why do I jump like anvils are strapped on me, why is the Pillar of Autumn on Reach, Why is there multiple Spartan IIIs besides Noble Team on Reach, why is the game oblivious to the Master Chief I mean they sure as hell shoehorned Cortana in their, why are all the levels just shallow versions of better levels from the trilogy, why does the 360 version also play at sub 20 fps, why the motion blur, why ghosting, why no bleedthrough, bloom, AA, Loadouts, shit maps, no comedy, why is the Halo feel gone, & why the fuck do I not feel like a Spartan?
>>321778547
I know that but telling someone to read a journal that only came with the limited addiction is the same as telling someone to read the book to understand the shit story.
>>321778547
But I'm more angry that it was inconsistent with the Halo Trilogy.
>>321778792
>finding one minor problem with h3
>it's shit
>countless issues with h5
>it's good
>>321780015
>>321778792
sorry and complaining about the brs damage at that distance is retarded
>>321780136
>at that distance
That's not even that far. Guardian is a tiny map, and that isn't even halfway across the map.
>>321780015
>find one problem with how the guns function in a shooter
>b-but bungie
>>321778882
How did you feel about the multiplayer introduced in Brotherhood?
>>321778882
3 isn't that bad
>>321780271
dude you're fucking retarded im not defending h3
Range RNG is common in so many fps' especially in this day and age
that does not make h5 good especially with its broken aim and inconsistent aim for every weapon
fuck you're stupid
>>321780391
It had potential, but sprinting should have been disabled by default unless you were being actively chased or within the last 30 seconds of a match. Way too many mouthbreathers sprinting on rooftops making it impossible to kill them with stealth ruined it.
>>321780632
I think that's part of what ruined Wolfpack for me.
>>321780750
It was a novel idea, and I had a blast when I could find a group that knew how to play it, but it was infuriating wasting time chasing an autistic target for only 100 points a kill.
>>321779806
How?
>>321779342
You don't need to read the jounral for reach to make sense any more then you do the other books for the main triology to make sense. Also, halo has been a multimedia franchise from the start: The first novel came out before CE did.
>>321780629
>especially with its broken aim and inconsistent aim for every weapon
What
None of the precision weapons in 5 have bloom
>>321777418
>wah it has stuff cod has that means it's automatically bad
>>321772439
>beta was a shitfest
What the hell are you talking about? The beta was perfectly fine
>>321781068
>None of the precision weapons in 5 have bloom
you're probably too bad to even be aware of it but h5 has dead zones when aiming
literally felt like I was using a 3rd party controller the first 5 seconds I started playing
>>321781161
You can adjust the dead zones along with aim acceleration as of like 3 weeks ago.
>>321781309
I've heard pros saying it's still pretty bad
is there a screen shot of these options?
>>321781407
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/blog-posts/halo-5-advanced-controller-settings
>>321781068
>You don't need to read the jounral for reach to make sense any more then you do the other books for the main triology to make sense
Tells me to read the journal to understand the story bu then tells me that I don't need the journal to understand the story.:P
Reach fucked up the designs of elites, brutes, & drones. The UNSC for unknown reasons had better tech than they did in the trilogy. Jorge customizing his armor, Spartan IIIs on Reach (& before you say something read CE manual,which did come with the game), the banshee design, Spartan Laser on Reach, where was it in Halo CE & 2. Tank needing a second person for gunner, Halo CE & 2 didn't need a second gunner, all vehicles having a boost meter, Grunts going suicide when the Arbiter said that the reason they started doing that in Halo 3 was b/c their feeding was changed. No mention of Master Chief except a non-canon (said by Matin Letho himself) appearance, yet Bungie felt the need to shoehorn Cortana in the game.
>>321782339
>the CE manual
Way to just fucking kill your entire argument.
>>321782339
>Tells me to read the journal to understand the story bu then tells me that I don't need the journal to understand the story.:P
> Jorge customizing his armor, Spartan IIIs on Reach (& before you say something read CE manual,which did come with the game),
I'm 90% sure you are baiting me.
You are complaining about the fact that it clashes with the books, but then are bitching and moaning when somebody tells you to read the journal to understand how it works because "I shouldn't have to read extra stuff to understand", when you reading extra stuff to begin with is what is causing the perceived inconsistencies.
>Reach fucked up the designs of elites, brutes, & drones
How?
>The UNSC for unknown reasons had better tech than they did in the trilogy.
Such as?
> the banshee design,
It's a different type of banshee. You gonna complain about how the halo 2 pistol is different from the halo 1 pistol too?
>Spartan Laser on Reach, where was it in Halo CE & 2.
Same place the grenade launcher was, or where brutes were in CE: Master cheif just didn't encounter any during the events of those games.
>Tank needing a second person for gunner, Halo CE & 2 didn't need a second gunner,
Yeah, so? Again, different tank. You do realize that Halo reach only takes place a few weeks before Halo 2 and 3 right? It's not like every sngle thing in 2 and 3 replaced all the stuff in reach, all of the different weapon and vehiclee varients eexisteed during the events of all of them.
>all vehicles having a boost meter,
And?
>Grunts going suicide when the Arbiter said that the reason they started doing that in Halo 3 was b/c their feeding was changed.
Actually, he said it was becausee the brutes were intimidating them. Guess what the grunts in reach that went kamikaze a bunch were being led under?
>No mention of Master Chief except a non-canon (said by Matin Letho himself) appearance, yet Bungie felt the need to shoehorn Cortana in the game.
Yeah, so?
>>321777381
No it fucking didn't. The campaign did, but not the multiplayer.
I now understand how Star Wars fans have felt for years with how Halo is going now. This shit really sucks.Warzone is really good though.
>new people trying to believe they didn't miss out
>old people trying to believe it's not dead
this entire thread
>>321783716
Yes it did. What about it was so different?
>inb4 you complain about negligible shit like hit markers or outright improvements like the addition of the AR
>>321783876
Funny, that's a great comparsion.Most star wars fans and halo fans both are idiots who don't even know half the shit about the franchise and just want the original triology of movies/games to be rehashed over and over again and think anything but that is shit.
>>321783937
I've been playing halo and reading the books since 2001. Most of the people in this thread are fucking retarded. I bet thy liked how halo 4 dealt with cheif and cortana's relationship.
>>321784104
>I've been playing halo and reading the books since 2001. Most of the people in this thread are fucking retarded. I bet thy liked how halo 4 dealt with cheif and cortana's relationship.
so are you trying to say it's not dead or?
because halo 5's population is hidden..
5 best competitive MP by far
3 best social MP by far
>>321783876
I would love it if the game didn't put me on the team that doesn't go for fucking objectives and just blast the shit out of every player they see.
>>321782589
>>321783292
Go suck Bungie & 343's cock you fucking faggots, better yet go sit in a corner & think about fucking an alien sense you weird faggots love dreaming about sucking alien cock too. I mean you post that shit on every thread, also this does not look like a fucking Brute, shit looks like something from Gears of War.
>>321784305
wrong and wrong
you're probably not even plat in h5 which isn't even hard to get
>>321784386
Go away reachbabby
>>321784104
Yeah, while 343 is fucking up so much, they have actually done some good shit. Rehashing the original trilogy would just lead to stagnation, but it's really not necessary to go as far as they have.
I honestly believe Halo 5 would be perfect if sprint wasn't in the game, the base movement speed was increased to 115% and armor abilities and equipment were in the game as single use on map pick ups.
Everything else, in terms of shit artstyle and worthless armor could be fixed easily in Halo 6 if they just had the gameplay down right.
>>321784546
Nooo don't.
Halo 5 has perfect mobility, sprint is punishing if you misuse it. The boost pack is perfect and feels glorious without being skill less
>>321784532
lol god you're so fucking bad
h2 is still the best aside from minor things
it may have had a lot of auto aim but it still had the best hit detection/movement/maps in the entire series
fuck ads sprint thrusters and the new arena ranking system h5 sucks so much dick
>>321762645
Absolutely this.
343i have made a game that FEELS better than any recent Bungie game.
>>321783292
The fuck happen with Reach?
>>321784747
Go away reachbabby
>>321784698
No. Halo does not need sprint. The maps in Halo 5 are the perfect size for 115% movement speed, sprint is just a generic FPS mechanic that serves no real purpose other than to give the illusion of realism.
Spartans NEVER had to lower their weapons when they sprinted, they could always shoot and aim perfectly fine while running at their max speed. This shit isn't realistic in the slightest, I don't feel like a Spartan.
I do like the booster pack and would be glad to see it become a standard mechanic in Halo from here on.
>>321784950
Sprint+boost is satisfying as hell when used in conjunction
Walk+boost is very eh
>>321784950
how about they just bring back classic 4v4 halo maps and bring back classic halo without all this extra bull shit that's not needed?
1-3 was best
reach 4 and 5 suck
>>321785070
>1-3 was best
>reach 4 and 5 suck
This guy gets it.
>>321785070
The only thing wrong with 5 is single player
If you want old Halo just play the old Halo's
>>321785065
You're right, it does feel good to sprint then boost, but that doesn't mean that sprint is worth having.
>>321785179
reach and 4 suck, 5 definitely does not.
>>321784274
Oh, halo 5 certainly has a lower population then prior halo games, there's no debating that, but I don't think that's indicative of 5's quality. It's inddicative that 1. Halo is no longer top dog, but is actually only a mid tier franchise now. COD, battlefield, etc, all of them are bigger then halo, and 2. That 343 has burned a lot of people's trust with 4 and MCC, so there were less people playing 5 to begin with.
>>321784305
Replace MP with MM and you'd be arguably right. If it's just multiplayer in general, then that would include customs, which would mean reach is best forr social since it has the most gamplay options combined with the second best forge, and firefight, and campaign matchmaking, which makes reach win just be sheer volume of content and modularity.
>>321784370
nice argument bruh. It's not that different from the hairless brutes in 3 and if anything looks better then them. If you wanted to complain about elite designs i'd argee with you, but reach brute designs are great. Hell, they look CLOSER to how hairless halo 2 brutes would look then 3 brutes do.
Pic related is a reach brute and looks almost identical to if tartarus had no fur
>>321784852
Yeah, reach elite designs are iffy. They are super changed from the anatomy of 1/2/3 elite desings, and look more like monsters then aliens. Reach elites have fucking sick armor though. It's sort a shame since 4 elites havee great anatomy that's much more in line with 1/2/3 ones, while still looking morre threatining without changing too much like reeach did, but their armor is so terrible.
So, most people say reach has good elites and 4 has bad elites, even though the opposite is true, when reach just has good elite armor, and 4 just has bad elite armor.
>>321784950
I don't think thruster would work well without sprint to go with it. Also, these are SIV's.
>>321785070
That's what halo 5 is you nigger, just with additional mobility options.
>>321785210
I thought the campaign was fine.
>mfw "people" on /v/ think Halo 5 is bad
Say what you will about 343i drip-feeding content, but the core gameplay is the best it's ever been. Take off your nostalgiagoggles, nerds.
>>321785210
>If you want old Halo just play the old Halo's
fuck you asshole
halo's multiplayer population is dead because they don't represent old halo's at all
>>321785383
this
Also this grenade is going off if Exuberant witness doesn't appear in 6 as a playable companion
>>321785407
inb4 someone tells me they can still get a match in h5
h5 is not halo 3 popular and it's only 2 months old
>>321785348
So did you finish sucking post Halo 3 Bungie's & 343i's dicks yet when made this post, or did you started licking their ass cracks?
>>321785407
It's because CoD and Battlefield and GTA and every big franchise had established themselves as the big shooty tooty franchises for all
It's nothing indicative of H5's quality, its territory and brand audience won't die off for a while
>>321785348
>I don't think thruster would work well without sprint to go with it. Also, these are SIV's.
That's a poor excuse for an entire mechanic existing. And thruster would work perfectly fine without it, why wouldn't it? That's why I said increase the base movement speed to 115% to compensate, with that speed you could still clear the gaps you need to with the thruster.
And I know Spartan 4's are supposed to be shitty mass produced assholes who could never live up to the 2's or 3's, but that's still a lame excuse to have sprinting. You also forget that Chief now has to lower his gun to sprint, that's bullshit.
>>321785702
>It's nothing indicative of H5's
dude seriously? halo 3 survived YEARS
even a year after h4 came out it had a higher population
>>321785383
>nostalgia goggles
How about the "Halo has been a shitty franchise for casuals since the first game" goggles?
>>321785637
Okay, its extremely obvious you don't even own the fucking game.
>>321785407
Nah, it's because 1. the xbone isn't th xbox or 360, 2. Halo has many compeitors that are way more popular then it, and 3. 4 and MCC killed people's trust.
Had Halo 3 2.0 came out today, it would still be more or less only as active/sell as much as halo 5.
>>321785637
What, halo 5 isn't halo 3 popular, but it's not close to being dead either.
>>321785696
Wow, you sure responded to all the points I raised with my post that I put so much effort into I actually hit the character limit
>>321785735
He's a Reach & 343 fag just ignore him.
So, I think Pokemon is taking a turn for the worst.
H5 is either fucking great or the death of a franchise
Which is more then I can say for H4 which was unanimously shit
Halo 5 is the best possible result for the game I would be foreseen by 343i
I knew they couldn't do a good story but at least they can nail the gunplay and learn from the fucking mess 4 was.
>>321785805
>Had Halo 3 2.0 came out today, it would still be more or less only as active/sell as much as halo 5.
then can you explain how pic related is still popular and is probably the most popular competitive fps when it hasn't really changed in 15 years? no one would play it if they changed it
>>321785915
It's taken a turn for the worse for a while now.
Halo 5 is the best multi since 2.
It's story is shit, just barely better than 4, and 4 was complete garbage.
343 holding back content is fucking ridiculous
Micro transactions are fucking shit, even though they don't matter in this that much
Sprint is still dumb as hell, but it works in this one at least
Locke sucks
That all being said, halo 5 is still great for pvp. Of course /v/ won't admit it though.
>>321785805
Touche bitch, if MCC came out perfect & played like every Halo played with all of their updates, which means Halo CE plays like Original Xbox version, Halo 2 had all the updates of the Xbox version of Halo 2 in other words 2007 Halo 2, Halo 3 had none of its problem & was 2010 Halo 3, screw 4, people would've ignored it anyway, Halo MCC would have been very popular & brought Halo back. But we know how well that went unfortunately.
>>321785805
>>321786086
did you die? serioiusly no one wants to play a cod knockoff and that's whats happening to halo
it's lost so much popularity when it should really be gaining with each release
>>321785735
>And thruster would work perfectly fine without it, why wouldn't it? That's why I said increase the base movement speed to 115% to compensate, with that speed you could still clear the gaps you need to with the thruster.
it might work but I doubt it would feel as good, and while you could argue that "feel" is just a unspecific buzzword like "soul" is, I think feeling is a huge part of what makes the halo games good, and it's very noticable when it's changeed or done wrong. CE has a totally different feeling then all the other halo games, which while thy are all distinct too, aree way closer to each other then they are to CE in terms of just how it feels to aim and move around and such.
Halo 5 also feels pretty different due to it's focus on moment and verticality, rather then being floaty. I think sprint is pretty intergral to that. Would it work if you just made the jumps floatier and increase base movement speed instead of sprint? probably, but I think the feeling wouldn't be as good and I don't think the gameplay itself would be objectively better as a result.
Sprint was implemented poorly in 4, but in 5 I think it's fine.
>>321785828
>I'll just call him names since I can't respond to his arguments, that will show him!
My favorite halo game is 2, trust me, I would have fucking loved if halo 5 was just H2A multiplayer as it's own game, but it's not, and what we got is still prettty fucking good.
>>321786086
GO was changed compared to source, no? Anyways, that's a static platform on PC, and it's been given out for free many times. I don't think it's fair to compare them.
>>321786164
>It's story is shit, just barely better than 4, and 4 was complete garbage.
Halo 4's story was shit but 5's is much better then barely better then 4's. But other then that I more or less I agree with your post.
>>321786562
Do we have access to MCC's day 1 sale numbers?
>>321762354
I don't know, I played from Halo 1 too and Halo 4 got boring really fast and I never touched my 360 again since then. It didn't feel like Halo. I assumed Halo 5 would follow the same trend so I won't buy an xbox one untill I'm able to try Halo 5 somewhere. Ill just stick to PC
>>321786615
>GO was changed compared to source, no?
it was..but cmon it's not like they added fucking sprint or retarded maps
the maps are literally the same
halo 1-3 had minor change 5 is completely different honestly
>>321786621
Halo 5 certainly feels different, arguably more then 4 did, but it's good different, unlike 4. and somehow feels more like halo then 4 did even there's more changes then 4 had.
There's equal starts, no loadouts or armor abilities or killstreaks; weapons are on map, just like classic halo, but there's a ton of new movement and moblity options and a focuss on verticality and skilljjumps/paths and competive play. The weapons are the most balanced they have ever been, the AR is actually a worthy starting weapon and can hold it's own at pretty decent ranges or even long ones if you burst and play carefully, the SMG is a fucking monster, etc.
>>321773183
It feels like Command and Conquer for me.
My two favorite game series are dead, fuck.
>>321786615
>My favorite halo game is 2, trust me
Yeah I believe you, not.
>Do we have access to MCC's day 1 sale numbers?
The fuck does this have anything to do with if MCC wasn't broken? MCC sold like shit b/c bad word to mouth not b/c people weren't interested in classic Halo. Why would anyone want to buy a broken game?
>>321785783
>How about the "Halo has been a shitty franchise for casuals since the first game" goggles?
Well that begs the question as to why you're even posting in this thread, faggot.
>>321786984There's a Halo mod in the works for C&C.
>>321786984
Mines too, Halo & Metroid for both I will remember the first three games for what they did to the franchise & act like everything after doesn't exist.
>>321787062
>Yeah I believe you, not.
Well, it was. I was superbouncing to get on top of the towers on ascension and the buildings on headlong, and driving out of the map and up the walls with the spectere, playing troy, zombies, toweer of power, and cat in mouse and customs, and playing modded lobvies with scarabs on turf, smgs that fired rockets and shotguns that fired fuel rod blasts before you even had a console.
>The fuck does this have anything to do with if MCC wasn't broken?
Because the day 1 sales wouldn't be impacted much by the bugs, most it are from preorders and people who were already intent on buying it, only a very small % of the population would have held off buying it on the first day. We can use that to compare to 2 and 3 and reach's and 4's day 1 numbers.
>>321786615
I just loaded up Halo 5 and set the movement speed to 120% and turned sprint off, it felt perfect to me. I left everything else alone and it felt like what I would want from a Halo game.
I suggest you do the same and go run around a BTB map and see for yourself.
>>321787270
But two of the first three metroid games are fucking shit.
>>321787634
this
few things
halo doesn't need sprint
halo is probably the last fps that should have it
>>321787779
it was okay, sure it wasn't as good as the first, nor does it even compare to Super Metroid, but it still had that feeling of isolation, & exploration. he game did block off some paths with lava, but you never knew exactly where the Metroids were.
>>321787528
So I see you were one of those players who liked to glitch the game out instead of playing fare. Also again I wasn't talking about the current sales that already happened when it launched I'm talking about if it was bug free at launch with fully customizable armor for Halo 3 & 4, separate playlist, file share, & other components from all of those Halo games then it would have sold better.
>>321788583
Oops misspelled fair.
>>321787062
>Yeah I believe you, not.
Why do people type like this? I thought it was just a highschool female thing
>>321788720
Hey he claimed to be a fan of Halo 2, but as I just found out he only likes Halo 2 for its glitches instead of how well it played. So to me he really doesn't truly like Halo 2.
>>321789025
> he only likes Halo 2 for its glitches
Hue, way to twist my words around.
>>321789025
It really just sounds like you're a buttmad fanboy angry that other fans are capable of disliking the direction a series has taken.
>b-b-but you're not a REAL fan like me, because reasons
It's honestly pathetic and you should stay on topic.
Halo 5 is shit played it at a friend's house. reskined COD. At least PC has Halo Online El Dorito Mod. I just wish Microsoft supported PC more. KB and Mouse is the only way to play a shooter.
>>321789265
No, he's angry that another fan likes the newer games.
>>321789618
>reskined COD.
You sure you played halo 5?
>>321789965
Nope, other way around, otherwise you wouldn't have shifted the conversation from gameplay to 'look at my fandick'
>>321789965
No he's a shitposting mustard. Funny I can bounce back from PC to console with no problems but for some reason the die-hard elitist PCfats can't seem to use sticks so they cry about it.
>>321790265
can confirm shit posting :D.
>>321790180
> otherwise you wouldn't have shifted the conversation from gameplay to 'look at my fandick'
He's the one that claimed I started the series with reach, I was just proving I didn't.
Also, I never gave him shit for not liking the newer games, he was giving ME shit for liking them, I was just asking him initially why he didn't, and when he explaind and I respondeed to his points in detail, he just insulted me and called me a fag for liking them. Maybe you should re-read the reply chain.
>>321787062
>>321785828
>>321784370
>>321782339
>>321783292
>>321789965
Thank you, I'm tired of these Reach & 343 faggots they really need to go meet up & have sex with each other & their games b/c I'm getting tired of them running their mouths. I thank Bungie & 343 for creating these apologistic mother fuckers & ruining this franchise.
>>321790865
>wah wah someone was mean to me on 4chan
lmao
Why the fuck can't 343 do good campaigns?
The enemies in 5 were retarded, you rarely ever have to get behind cover if you just tell your AI companions who to fuck up. The Warden felt like he was only there to make the game last a little bit longer since he was just a glorified Promethean Knight.
The story was a fucking mess. Chief and Locke face each other way too fucking soon and then the next time they see each other it's as if nothing happened, why was the Locke vs Chief shit advertised so much if it only lasts for like one mission? What was the point of that Hubworld shit? Why was Jul M'dama killed in the first mission? If Cortana wanted Locke's team dead why didn't she send like a million Wardens after them? Why didn't Cortana make her henchmen just kill Exuberant? Why did Cortana have Blue Team just walk in circles for several hours? This fucking garbage story raises too many fucking questions.
>>321790265
The only shit posters are the ones defending post Halo 3 Bungie & 343i like yourself.
>>321759081
Yes, Halo is one of my favorite series, and I fucking hate it now after 5
>>321791074
I'm not whining he's being mean, i'm just pointing out the fact that you weren't paying any fucking attention to the conversation you were replying to.
>>321791146
Nah, I think you are shitposter since you called the people who responded to your posts in details a fag and then just made up bullshit about them to make them look bad.
>>321791236
You liked 4 but hated 5?
What possible reason could you have for that?
>>321790865
Boo Hoo I made fun of you for having a bad opinion. Sorry if I don't agree with you but their is a reason Halo is in the state it is today & it started when Bungie left Microsoft. I don't hate Halo but we need to make these greedy ass devs know when they fucked up their games so that the next game can be better. If we tell them the game is good, they will continue in that bad direction. We're are trying to save this franchise not put it six feet under cause that's where it's going.
>>321791519
shitposting
>>321791412
Blog about it :^)
>>321791630
lol except 5 is one of the best ones.
Eat shit, kiddo
>>321791412
No it's you guys, why every single time someone post about the problems of post Halo 3 Halo games it turns into us having nostalgia goggles on when the series has seriously gone downhill. No one was asking for COD shit to be put in Halo, no asked for the books to be part of the main series, no ask for a game to retcon the series. We just wanted a game that felt like a true successor to Halo 3, is that so hard to ask for?
>>321792125
>series has seriously gone downhill.
Source: my ass
>>321791749
>5 good
Only 3 Chief missions
No split screen
Forge BTB
Missing playlists
>5 good
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>321792368
>m-muh chief
>>321781407
>I've heard pros saying it's still pretty bad
Stop fucking lying, jesus
Anyone that says Halo 3's mp (not customs) was better than 5's is completely retarded.
Literally the only thing even worth arguing is 2's, and that's only because of map quality, since the gun balance and sticky aim in that game is ass fucked.
>>321792275
You can't be retarded, launch sales are the same as MCC, 343 won't even talk about the online population, so yes the series has gone downhill.
>>321792553
>muh saels
I don't seem to have any trouble finding games online, so the population is high enough 4 me!
>>321785348
>Replace MP with MM and you'd be arguably right. If it's just multiplayer in general, then that would include customs, which would mean reach is best forr social since it has the most gamplay options combined with the second best forge, and firefight, and campaign matchmaking, which makes reach win just be sheer volume of content and modularity.
By social mp he was referring to customs.
And 3 had far better customs than Reach, even though reach's forge was a lot better.
>>321792440
You liked Locke seriously. I don't even know anymore.
