Fuck this game /v/. I cant get past central yharnam and im so sick of fighting the same mobs i try to rush through it and keep getting more frustrated. Wat do?
Kill yourself
>>321732104
if it ur first souls game?
rest for a while (maybe a couple days) and think about what could you have done better to improve and come back to the game later
>>321732145
>>321732104
>>321732226
Kill yourself
>>321732104
>Still hasn't left Central Yharnam
>>321732230
Yes my first souls game. I cant even get past the first mobs where theyre all standing around a fire. Wicked aggrivating because i dont want to hate this game.
>>321732104
There's literally only one piece of advice you need for any of the Souls games:______git______________________________gud__________
>>321732496
it only get worse when you just shut down your brain and rush in like a retard
when i first played my first souls game (demons souls) i just gave up the game only to replay it weeks later
hit the enemies, and don't get hit
>>321732496
Run past them or bait them one at a time.
It's quite thrilling.
>>321732771
shh most casuals arent used to enemies with BITE
G I T
Take your time and pick the mobs off one at a time. Keep an eye on your inventory for an item that gives insight. Once you get that use it and you can start trading blood for levels. There's some decent armoe in the sewers. Took me an hour or two to get the hang of things but hang in there OP.
>>321732694
Im going full retard just rushing in i figured out the blood echoes thing and got better armor and im still getting rekt.
>>321732104
Yeah, the street leading up to the big bonfire is a pretty big pain in the ass for so early in the game, with the tons of enemies everywhere.
If you really want to progress you can do the following:Creep up along that street as best you can, and then sprint across, up the stairs, and through a gate. Hopefully none are still chasing you. Directly ahead there will be a door with an orange lantern outside. To the left is some boxes. Smash them to reveal a hole in the fence. Drop down and take a left. Keep going up stairs and through the first floor of the house and you'll wind up at a gate next to Gilbert. You can then use that shortcut whenever.
>>321733065
Thanks for the advice anon. I knew these games were tough but i cant believe im stuck on the first fucking level.
Use the pebblesand your brainOP.
If you can't fight them all at once, maybe you shouldn't.
>>321733157
Thank you so much for this
>>321732104
acquire a degree of skill
>>321732104
take a break, then get good.
>>321732773
I cannot think of a single more useful item in the entirety of the Souls series.
Who'd have thought that a frigging Pebble would be so great?
Add me and shoot me a message, I can run you through whatever you need help w/ tomorrow.
PSN: BornHanged_
Git gud. No, seriously, the game isn't even that hard.
>>321733578
>there are people that still think those are pebbles
my keks
Funnel them on the stairways and fight them one at a time. Not recommended though. Pebble picking or molotov is best strategy if you really want to fight them.
>>321733606
>encouraging summoning on a first playthrough
end yourself
Anyone want to help me do lower loran? I'm lvl 100.
>>321732104
Start over, choose Lone Survivor as your class, try the Threaded Cane and Hunter Blunderbuss, focus leveling vitality, endurance, and skill.
HOLD DOWN R2
H O L D D O W N R 2
I just got this game. I'm at that part. I picked the axe. I don't like the slow paced attacks so I was thinking of switching
>>321734151
>Threaded Cane and Hunter Blunderbuss
Are you trying to make it harder for him?
While the axe is great and better long term, I think the saw cleaver is great for a first attempt just for being faster, so your timing doesn't need to be as precise before you've been able to relly git gud
Learn parry Windows. Dodge. Don't lock onto bosses. Pour points into Skill and your viscerals will do ungodly damage. Whirligig is the broken weapon ever.
That's pretty much all you need to know. Have fun m8.
>>321734151
>Threaded Cane
Holy fuck you want him to hate this game don't you?
These games are not difficult, the enemies hit hard, but as soon as you learn to dodge properly it's pretty easy. The problem is that you can never truly let your guard down, as even the easiest of enemies can kill you if you let them hit their combos without countering with a pistol or dodging.
I'm playing through it for the first time as well right now, but I have plenty of experience with DS so it's not like this is new to me.
>>321734283
Hunters Axe is the way to go, it's what I picked for my playthrough and it's worked just fine. I've cleared about 6 bosses so far with it.
I've put most of my leveling into VIT though, with some going into STR, but my endurance is still just at like 15 (i'm lvl 55 now). See no need to put anything else in it because I time my hits and it recovers very fast.
>>321734283
What weapon do you recommend and should i do lone survivor?
>>321734539
Axe or cleaver, and probably the blunderbuss.
For class? Honestly idk, go with the one with the most VIT and STR, I've never really looked to deep in to classes because they aren't that important.
>>321734035
Some people have difficulties w/ the game, as long as they're comfortable w/ summoning it's fine.
W/ that being said I choose to always run first playthroughs solo, but that's just me.
___________________________________________________________________________________________git gud _____________________________________________
So i opened the gate near gilbert, i havent completely lost hope yet.
>>321733087
Armor means nothing in bloodborne, purely cosmetic except for the resistance bonuses, and even then it doesnt do much
I wanna switch weapons. Do I have to start all over?
>>321735669
Naw yhe saw spear can be found early and once you beat the boss you can buy the starting weapons.
Serves you right for picking the saw cleaver
>>321735669
No, just go back to the Hunter's Dream and buy the weapon you want from the bath messengers.
>>321735669
When you kill the pig in the sewers, his lair will have the badge you need to buy the other starter weapons.
Alternatively, you can find the saw spear in the warehouse which is vastly superior to any of the starting weapons
>>321733913
We Chuck death stars?
>>321734151
>threaded cane
>blunderbuss
Son please
>not going pure BLT Blunderbuss
Git gud.
>>321733087
Bro rush through the mobs and find the shortcut. When u do that u can go straight to the boss w/o dealing w/ most of them. Also, early game levels dont really matter. Practice fighting the boss and dont waste too much time dealing with mobs
>>321736068
They're eyes.
That's why winter lanterns, witches, and crows drop them.
Because those are all things that collect eyes.
>>321736335
Never realized this... I always thought grows dropped them because birds collect rocks or some shit.
>>321734539
Classes aren't very important because they just dictate your stats at the beginning, but Lone Survivor is a good pick because it has good starting VIT.
Threaded Cane is legitimately my favourite of the starting weapons but it's also the most underpowered to begin with, so not ideal if you're having trouble. Both the Cleaver and Axe are pretty good. I would say the Axe is a little easier to use, but the Cleaver will do more damage to a lot of the early-game enemies due to the Serrated bonus against beasts. As for the gun, Pistol has a shorter recovery after firing which can make it easier to parry with when you're not good at the timing, but Blunderbuss is better for staggering enemies and is less likely to miss if an enemy is moving a lot. I would say they're both about equally good for new players, just preference really.
If you can get up to the sewers (shortly before the first mandatory boss fight) there's an item that will allow you to buy all the starting gear to play around with it.
>>321733193
It gets better once you get the hang of it, first playthroughs are like that.
Decide what weapons you like and going to use and check if they scale with strenght or skill and make your build splitting 50/25 because that's where the hard cap and soft cap is, but do get your health to 50 it helps, especially once you'll be able to buff yourself with runes.
Now leave this thread before you get too much spoiled.
>>321736263
Wait, are you saying that you can actually play through BB focused on guns?
They do such piss damage in all my other runs I basically abandoned the thought.
>>321732104
>The "I can't get past Central Yharnam" meme again
When will it stop?
>>321736629
You can, but you have to put attributes into Skill in order for their damage to be good. Since most people put everything into VIT and STR / END, you wind up with shit damage.
>>321733343
>thought this was just a retarded picture
>Get killed by a sackman last night
>Suddenly it all makes sense
Why the fuck do those niggers have an Akuma mode and a Tekken style 10 Hit Combo? It's retarded.
>>321736263
There's no way it does that damage, are you kidding me? +10 evelyn with bone marrow ash and 50 bloodtinge doesn't do that much
>>321732104
i know what you mean, start with the axe it helps you wipe through enemies early in the game if you're new, i know it helped for me
>>321736751
Well currently I'm doing a skill build, rocking the Threaded Cane and the Rifle Spear.
Teach me the ways of bullet-fu, anon.
>>321734182
Use the two handed form. Hold down R2. Kill everything.
i spent all day on this fuck, enemies stopped dropping antidotes when i needed them most, and the old hunter was no help
>>321737151
dodge forward right and it will miss you all the time
>>321737214
oh i beat him, but took longer than any other boss
>>321732104
Use the items you have found, molotovs, pebbles, bullets, etc Also try to level up some if you are having problems
When demons souls came out, I literally could not get past 1-1. It was infuriating. I tried again a few days later and went very slowly through everything. It takes time to get used to the pacing. Bloodborne starts easier though. So don't rush it. Enjoy the thrill of the ride
>>321737151
Flamesprayer, molotovs, fire paper, and pungent blood cocktails are your friends.
>>321737285
He was my first roadblock too, but gearing up and finally taking him down gave such a feeling of triumph. Remember that summoning doesn't always help, it gives the bosses lots more health and in the case of BSB that means you're exposed to poison longer.
>>321734283
That's what I used through my whole first playthrough and it's one of my favourite games.
>>321732104
Just make your way to Great Pthumeru Ihyll and farm radials from the bosses, they're fairly easy. You'll get much blood echos too!
>>321737151
>Get a PS4 and BB for Christmas
>Dhurja and his fuckpuppet both fell off the buildings and died instantly the moment I came across them
>Killed BSB and Amelia in one try each with summoned NPCs and fire paper
>Went through Hemwick Charnel Lane and killed the Witch(es) in a single life
>Finally stop playing Bloodborne and hop on /v/ for the first time since Christmas
>People bitching about shit that took me 20 minutes tops
I can't tell if I'm lucky/good or if everyone else who just got the game is just unlucky/shit.
>>321737686
>things that never happened
>but it very soon after I buy my ps4
>play a bit, get to blood starved beast, get walled
>play other games for a few months
>come back, kill BSB second attempt
>its chamber is a dead end
>nowhere to go
>forgotten where I've been
>lost
>>321737686
Witches and Amelia are pushovers, I killed both first time and this was my first souls game.
>>321732104
Too lazy to convert into a webm...
GIT GUD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqgBABRkvVY
>>321738016
Port back to cathedral ward, there's a door on the right that opened up.
>>321737686
I can understand most of this, but
>20 minutes tops
You would have had to run past every enemy in order to get through that fast and even then Amelia should hold you back at least a quarter of that time, due to how much HP she has.
>>321732496
Nigga you can just agro 1 or 2 mob at a time. Pay attention to their patrols.
It beat dark souls 1 and 2 but the beginning of bb was still hard for me.
I always get spanked left and right in the first level of souls games because you don't have any weapons, levels or upgrades.
It gets easier when you level up and git gud with some movesets.
It's a gr8 game, just don't give up and you'll beat it eventually.
>>321737686
>uses summons
>surprised that bosses are easy
Wow it's really fucking nothing. As for the witches, those crusty cunts are easier than the Celestial Emissary. Rolling solo on bosses for the first time is always the best. You don't get the same feeling from fighting a boss when you end up just stunlocking them on half the fight with other people. Not only that, but you don't really learn the fights that way since the bosses will constantly switch targets allowing you to constantly be able to safely heal while your partner takes the aggro.
>>321737804
>>321738227
True facts, man.
I ran past Dhurja's assistant because I wasn't fighting him under a gatling gun, and went right up to Dhurja. I hit him twice before Dhurja backhopped right the fuck off the tower. I did fight with the assistant a bit before he hopped off the little side part right by were you get the charred armor set.
BSB and Amelia were both strokes of good luck I guess. I died in the area around both of them plenty of times, but when I finally stopped pissing about, I ran to the boss doors and into the boss fights and just handled it.
I'm not sure what happened with the witch, besides it being entirely enemies I've seen before, barring crazy ladies with axes.
I'm not saying that it took me 20 minutes each area (I spent a few hours fucking about in Old Yharnam farming the beasts), but BSB and Amelia went by fast as fuck, and the Witches isn't even a fight.
OFFICIAL BOSS RANKINGS
======================
>HARDEST
Ebrietas, Daughter of the Cosmos
>EASIEST
Mergo's Wet Nurse
>BEST
Orphan of Kos
>WORST
Witch of Hemwick
======================
>>321738752
>HARDEST
Either Ludwig or Orphan
>EASIEST
Witch of Hemwick
>BEST
Gehrman
>WORST
The One Reborn
![[Commie] Valkyrie Drive ~Mermaid~ - 12 [EBA04A8C].mkv_snapshot_15.10_[2015.12.28_16.34.23].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vX5PgQf.jpg "[Commie] Valkyrie Drive ~Mermaid~ - 12 [EBA04A8C].mkv_snapshot_15.10_[2015.12.28_16.34.23].jpg")
>Bloody Crow of Cainhurst
fuck this guy holy shit
>>321736810
Because they're meant to kill you for progression
>>321739215
I came here just to post this, I've done all the chalice stuff and the dlc and I've died more to Crow than any boss. Everything seems to be going well then he just manages to land one evelyn into another. His hella aggro mode with no health left is pretty fucking painful too.
I know how you feel OP.
The fucking Lords of Cinder in Central Yharnam keep kicking my ass.
>>321739787
For what it's worth, he usually fires his gun immediately after a roll. Also he seems to use the gun less if you lure him onto the stairs.
>>321738194
Really? It was really that easy? I ran around forever, cleared this whole terrible, like, church place. Then I climbed a tall ladder and got annihilated by another hunter
>>321739902
Oh no, I beat him. I died 12 times total, which was more than any boss. It's just his relative damage is ridiculous and he's very aggressive.
>>321732104
you die at the end like you are dying now anon, there is no hope
The best advice I can give you is to be patient op. Modern gamers have grown so accustomed to everything being giving to them on a silver platter that we forgot to learn things. You have to get accustomed to learning and improving in the game.
It's okay to die. It's okay to make mistakes. Just learn from them and improve. You make mistakes so you can improve. The more you fight, the more you will learn. Soon that area will seem easy to you. Try to take on as little enemies at once as possible. Make sure when you see a lantern you light it. That's the equivalent to a checkpoint.
>>321740118
RIP
>>321739957
Honestly it's very easy to miss. I was confused as fuck on my first playthrough even without a long break to fuck up my memory of the areas.
>>321739215
>>321739787
>>321739902
Just spam Augur of Ebrietas and make sure you always have full health so that he doesn't kill you with the gun.
You'll either set him up for a visceral or knock him over, opening up for a few hits.
>>321740236
After beating BSB Gerhman appears again in the dream near the workbench and he tells you to ascend Oedon Chapel. Fairly straightforward.
>>321738992
>WORST
>The One Reborn
Thats my favorite boss
![[HorribleSubs] NouKome - 02 [720p].mkv_snapshot_02.26_[2013.11.19_00.14.21].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/R74zOvL.jpg "[HorribleSubs] NouKome - 02 [720p].mkv_snapshot_02.26_[2013.11.19_00.14.21].jpg")
>my brother tries dark souls 1 for the first time
>ask him how did he go
>tried to kill the demon in the tutorial for like 1 hour I almost gave up
>"W-what do you mean bro?"
>the game gives you a broken weapon that does no damage, I almost gave up until I noticed a door to run out the room
>eventually he gets to the Undead Parish
>sees the Black Knight near the useless blue ring
>"I gave up on this enemy, his too hard"
>"oh bro not only can you just skip him, you can also chain backstab him to kill him early, I can show you ho--
>meh dont bother the game sucks anyway
>"i-it doesn't suck man, just go past him for now" "Did you do the first boss on the bridge yet?"
>"nahhhhh can't be bothered"
fuck I hate people who claim its the games fault for their failures then they refuse to play it.
>>321737686
Ayyy summoning of first playthrough.
>>321732104
You might as well give up now because its only going to get even more bullshitier.
>>321740501
Tell your brother that he's a fat fuck faggot and that his parents don't love him
c;
>>321740501
Some gits were never meant to gud.
>>321734091
There is no helping you when it comes to dark beast.
Abbhorrent is easy to coop but the Dark Beast is only doable if either player uses blood cocktail.
>>321732496
Just run passed them. Once you get through the arches they stop chasing you. Just rush to the boss on the bridge and die, then you can start levelling up.
>>321734696
Arcane+Str
Str+Skill
Skill+Bloodtinge
>>321740859
>there are people who couldn't go through central yharnam and beat the cleric beast in one go
Fuck
>>321740805
>Helping friend do Loran DB
>I'm level 150
>Doing it with another friend as well
>Can't go near the fucker because he kills me in 2-3 hits , has super fast swipes and constantly staggers into already doing the explosion of lightning
We beat him after a few tries since he would corner my friend because hes a dumb fuck. But holy shit that fucker feels like a load of nonsense. His camera is shit , his moveset is too fast to always react to , staggering him consistently like Paarl is hard as fuck , and he does that dumb lightning explosion 3 times in a row averagely.
>>321740118
>he didn't get the secret ending
>he let that ayy lmao trick him into suicide
idiot.
So i want to try an arcane sort of build.
any recommendations?
also where can i find any spells sort of early on?
>>321740805
Ah fuck, yeah the dark beast is a fucking bitch. I really can't even come up with a good strategy.
>>321741012
>spells
>early on
Jesus. You people need to git gud
>>321740982
Nigga, did you even read what he said. First souls game, he's not gonna have the experience of past games to use. He's going to need to learn it all and being the lowest level taking on the boss isn't the easiest job for a newcomer.
>>321741012
>early arcane
Just suffer. The hunter's torch scales okay with arcane early. You can grab a flame waning gem after BSB and chuck that onto certain weapons to tide you over I guess.
>>321741012
Dw about spells early, start with the cane, get Ludwig's holy blade, get moonlight blade and tonitrus, enjoy your arcane build.
>>321741065
>>321741112
ok thanks anons
yeah i was wondering if there would be a hidden little spell somewhere but thats ok
>>321740982
>Checking wiki to see if I missed anything in Central Yharnam (I did, the crow NPC)
>Bottom of the page has a guide on the bosses that recommends doing Gascoigne first, then summoning him to help you with the Cleric beast
I can't even process this idea. How can someone who needs summons for Cleric Beast be capable of beating Gascoigne in the first place?
>>321741023
Use blood cocktails and every ranged weapon you have.
Try to hit as many limbs as possible, press the advantage when he is not charged and ignore limbs you already staggered.
>>321741190
Luck? Or if you managed to gid gud at parrying because it essentially leaves gascan with 33% health
![CSV2F_kXIAAfCPu[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/o4gb7dI.jpg "CSV2F_kXIAAfCPu[1].jpg")
>accidentally enter DLC
>rush past half of the enemies because I'm getting my shit kicked in
>find Whirligig Saw
WHO HERE PIZZA CUTTER?
>>321741190
Big bosses have shit cameras.
I have question, i just got to the blood moon phase and everything is fucked right now so is there a way to save everyone?
is there a happy ending where everything in yharnam is back to normal and where no one is doomed or is yharnam practically hell on earth forever?
i really want to know, because i really like some of the NPC's, but it looks like everytime i try to help someone or do something i just make things worse.
>>321741129
okie dokes. thanks anon
i'm guessing some extra stats will be going into dex instead of strength?i'm actually trying to finish off blood thirsty demon right now
>>321741168
There is a hidden spell early on but it is buff. There is also a flamethrower which is quite effective.
However molotovs scale with arcane and most early bosses are weak to fire so the points aren't wasted.
Arcane starts to get stuff after BSB and becomes very strong build very quickly.
>>321741532
>hell on earth
>rad ayylmaos errywhere
Jesus anon, just let the cosmos touch younyoro~n
>>321741546
Strength actually, for the moonlight blade and Ludwig's.
But if you wanted to use different weapons I'm sure there are some arcane skill ones, but I only know the str ones.
Pretty sure there's only 2 or 3 NPCs that can get a "good' ending.
>>321741532
>i just got to the blood moon phase and everything is fucked right now so is there a way to save everyone?
>is there a happy ending where everything in yharnam is back to normal and where no one is doomed or is yharnam practically hell on earth forever?
Well if you take the blood minister literally the Yharnam you're in is literally a dream you get pulled into and the real one probably hasn't gone to hell.
There's that if it makes you feel better.
>i really want to know, because i really like some of the NPC's, but it looks like everytime i try to help someone or do something i just make things worse.
Welcome to Bloodborne.
>>321732104
Watch a lets play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpCcMf70kx8
See how they beat it. Learn to understand how the game is played.
>>321741806
thanks again senpai
i'm glad because i actually decide to try the axe this time and have some into str already
>>321742046
Fuck off.
I really want to get back into the game. The only thing stopping me is blood vials/bullets being a farm/buy item. I really miss estus flasks.
Had to restart when I picked up the dlc a month ago because all my saves were gone for some reason, but after getting my shit pushed in at the dlc and running out of both I just don't want to continue
>>321741806
Trickmode wheel has highest gemmed arcane damage as far as I know.
The stat screen lies because it doesn't show that the scaling arcane portion gets multiplied by four meaning that it is easy to reach 400+ arcane with residual physical damage on top of that.
>>321741828
well fuck this really aches my white knight heart.
>>321742046
Watching Snailborne.
Game Grumps are more competent at Bloodborne.
>>321738752
>HARDEST
>Ebrietas, Daughter of Getting Fucking Rekt by Tonitrus
r u havin a laff m8
>>321742204
But they don't explain their mindset and approach to things while playing or really look at any of the story stuff.
>>321742195
Well if you can always not do any of the npc quests. Because undoubtedly things get worse for them the more you do it.
>>321742204
Arin's Game Grumps playthough wasn't his first. Apparently it took him 25 times or something to kill BSB.
>>321742271
>needing people to tell you how to play or explain the story
>>321742292
>Not do any npc quests
And miss out on the ayylmao final boss end
>>321742292
Not really?
If you ignore Eileen,you have to kill her.
If you help hershe probably survived.
>>321742354
OP clearly does, that's what the thread is about. He doesn't understand how to play game at a fundamental level.
>>321742372
you can get it without the slut's quest
>old workshop
>wet nurse
>Iofska post Rom
>>321742292
yeah in NG+ i am not going to save anyone.
you can imagine my reaction when i found about what happend to the NPC's i sent to iosefka.
>>321742271
>explain mindset
You rush and spam r1. There you've beat half the game.
>really look at any of the story stuff.
Lovecraft happens, town goes insane, go kill alien gods.
>>321742319
I don't tolerate them, but a lp should be quick, informative, and not filled with Pat and Woolie.
>summon help for Ludwig
>fucker dies on his first lunge
>beat him on my own
>come into these threads and find out summoning makes the boss harder
>realize I essentially solo'd buffed Ludwig and Orphan
I think I got gud.
>>321742408
Compare that to the Little Girl.
Or Arianna.
fuck helping anyone but Eileen.
>>321741828
The hunter is dreaming, but the Yharnam you head into is the real world.
All these xmas kids playing bloodborne for the first time.
Remember to ring your beckoning bell in the forest lads :^)
ahhh yes. it feels me with content to see dark souls rage threads. Wouldnt be complete without them. 10/10 franchise and company
>>321742319
Some people are tenacios fuckers, I can't think of a single boss I ever needed more than 10 attempts for and that already was frustrating as fuck for me.
>>321742607
It's just a reading I've seen argued for before. The idea that it's a dream within a dream within a dream just fits that dreamscape atmosphere.
Although I still argue that the Yharnam you're in is the real thing.
>>321742710
First time I fought Orphan was NG++
I died for six straight hours on my day off before I kicked that little shitter's ass.
>>321742772
I think it's real mainly because the whole idea of insight is learning the Eldritch truth behind the world. If it wasn't real with wouldn't be the truth.
>>321742485
>An lp should be quick, informative
This. I don't get how people can sit through
>BLOODBORNE EPISODE 289: VICAR AMELIA
I watched an lp of bloodborne after finishing the game, from a guy who knew the game inside out because he worked on the guide for it. He did everything he could in a playthrough and ended up talking about the story and minor plot stuff that I missed.
The videos were short and he finished in like 30 episodes.
>>321742839
I had similar experiences with Defiled Watchdog and Loran Darkbeast, mostly because I froze my level to 80.
>>321742971
ENB?
>>321742772
You meet several hunters during your quest which have stopped dreaming. If your Yharnam wasn't the real deal it wouldn't make sense to be able to meet them.
>>321743039
Yeah
>>321740501
>meh dont bother the game sucks anyway
>Can't beat an optional enemy
>Won't continue the game because of this
>Says the game is bad
>Central Yahanam
>ran past everything until you see the faggot on the high tower
>keep pressing x until he rolls off the tower by himself and die
>run past everything to the boss
>throw 10 cocktail molotoves at him until it dies
Bloodborne is a joke. The gameplay is so badly designed and cheeseable compared to eg. Witcher 3.
>>321742971
I watch failplays, either on background or by actively skipping.
I just want the reactions. I instantly quit watching if the player uses guides.
>>321739215
Dude same fuck this guy.
I ended up beating him by poisoning him and getting quick hits to amplify the poison and dodging back but just barely. Him and the undead giants are the two hardest bosses I've faced yet.
>>321743093
Fuck off and take your bait right with you, stinky nigger
>>321742898
Well using the word real is actually a misnomer here.
I think better phrase would be home-field. Because Bloodborne indulges in the Dreamlands so much, everything is a real tangible place you visit. Even if Yharnam was a 'dream' it would be a real city with history and everything. The Elderitch truth would be more the Truth of reality. That there are cosmic beings that exist in many different realities at the same time.
>>321743040
I think in the original reading I read, Gherman freeing you from the hunt is basically abandoning you in Dream Yharnam because you know too much of the Elderitch things or some shit. Your memory is cut and you as a very intimidating hunter is left in Dream Yharnam to essentially fight an eternal hunt until you go mad.
Like I said, it's not the lore viewpoint I ascribe to.
>>321743251
Why so mad bro? Did I trigger you?
>>321743249
You can cheese the guy by waiting for him to go in the edgier self damage form and running down the stairs
>>321743249
You mean the Spinning Giant? The one that can't even get near you if you have Tiny Tonitrus?
>>321743308
Most of the real cheese methods are patched out. Below a certain amount of health he doesn't even transform anymore. The only one that really still exists is the bottom of the stairs aggro boundary
>>321743308
They patched that out. After he reaches a certain amount of health he stops going edgemode and goes crazy with his pistol instead.
>>321743440
>pistol two shots you
It was the biggest bit of bullshit during that fight. There were times where I had to dodge up to five times only for him to go edgelord with his fucking katana. Jesus Christ fuck him so hard.
Why are Bloodbornefags so casual?
Should we purge them back to reddit?
>>321742839
go to sleep michael
>every death is fair
>>321743539
The crazy high pistol damage is the only actual problem with that fight, everything else is quite managable, but if you get hit with that shit and aren't at 100% HP you're basically ded as shit.
>>321743440
Damm that sucks, haven't fought him in a while. I guess I'm just not doing that fight on my new character. It's just not fun,he feels like the most dangerous enemy in the fucking game
>>321743613
You can hear those snake men approaching tho
>>321743539
>>321743639
White church garb lets you take 3 hits from the gun with decent VIT.
>>321740982
i almost did a month ago. then i started dying more often for awhile because i was trying to rush things
>>321743696
>I almost did it in one go except i died multiple times
lel
>>321743687
Maria's set has even higher BLT defense I think, oughta try that on my next playthrough.
>>321743658
Just don't touch him until he stops going in the edgemode.
After that spam ranged weapons on the stairs. If he runs he is dedicated to running attack and can be parried and if he throws or charge attacks just toss something at him.
I stopped playing because the framerate was driving me crazy. The gameplay was fun though. Wish it would at least stay at a steady 30fps instead of it dropping to 15 while you're doing nothing.
>>321743093
The entire gameplay of Bloodborne is about finding ways to cheese to bosses.
This is the only fun we had admist the cluncky combat and 15 fps.
>>321732104
git gut
>>321743834
when was this? they have actually improved it with the recent patches I feel like.
>>321742229
I seriously couldn't think of any harder, other than some of the layer 5 cursed bosses.
I played this game a little bit. I'm getting the same feeling I did when I played Armored Core. Solid combat but to me the game feels like it doesn't really have anything compelling outside of the combat. I'll still play it but I don't know if I'll buy Dark Souls 3 or Bloodborne 2.
Getteth Gudde
>>321743875
Holy fuck, now I remember those shitposting wars before Bloodborne came out. 15fpsborne, buttery smooth, sickdark etc.
Quite ironic how most people here seem to like the game now.
>>321743936
It was shortly after the expansion came out. I was getting excited, and wanted to pick it up again, but the Logarius(?) fight was causing constant frame rate fluctuations
>>321744016
because a shitload of people bought ps4s since then and actually played it.
>>321743981
You have to look for the story/lore. Through item descriptions and visual cues.
>>321744016
Funny how all of those turned out to be true.
>combat is all about dodge and attack
>Boss fights are literally the same but repeat 50 times
Assassin's Creed already did it better.
>>321744118
Goldfaceposters were right in the end though.
Also the framerate does suffer some hiccups, but it's really not so bad and it never felt like it was going below 20fps while I played.
>>321744026
there are many people who beat logarius. stop looking for excuses
>ANOTHER SHITBORNE THREAD
At this stage it's just shilling
>>321739502
This is wrong. You don't actually have to get abducted to move on, and you can kill Paarl when the moon turns red.
>>321744329
It's post holiday.
The kids just got their new Bloodborne machine from their parents and excited about it.
>>321743613
That just happened to me I'm still mad about it...
>>321732104
Lol, I remember back when i first started playing Dark Souls.
4 hours into it, I was ready to break my controller, so I waited for the next day while I kept going through everything inn my head
The next day I had an easy time getting through the part I was stuck at. It really helps having a cool mind.
>>321741190
But if you kill Farther G. first he can't be summoned for Cleric
>>321738752
>>HARDEST
The hound in the cursed Pthumerian chalice
>>321744314
I never said I didn't beat him.
>>321743965
Orphan of Kunt, Laurence the Lava Shitter, Edgelord of Cainhurst are all harder than her.I know Logarius is supposedly easy but he fucks me in the ass every single time.
>>321744717
Wait, actually, this. This is the hardest boss. I hate all the quadruped bosses. They hit hard, hit wide and always shuffle back hella fast when you hit them.
>>321732104
try a different weapon or strategy instead of beating your head against a wall. it's not hard, it's about timing, you rush, you die.
I played Dark Souls before, but this was my brothers first game of this.
He beat pretty quickly, maybe 3 days? Way faster than me, although he skipped a lot of secret areas I did.
I don't think any of it was very difficult, but the Chalice dungeons were very boring and the materials for them were Grindy. Was this some last-minute addition to the game? I wanted to fight Yharnam
>>321734283
the threaded cane is life itself early on:
>that ungodly range
>That whip transformation attack
>that jumping R2
>that speedy little cane form.
the crowd control ability and the serrated damage on the whip makes it an absolute monster in the early game, herd enemies into a bottle neck and kill them all with a few swings from outside their effective range. easy.
>>321741546
either go quality/arcane and use primarily the moon blade or go skill/arcane then use blades of mercy and burial blade. you could do a strength/arcane focused character, but you would have to use the wheel and tonitrus
anyway you chose to go, you will need to farm gems since they're hard to come by outside of chalice dungeons
I bought the DLC just after finishing the game. In NG+ I'm currently up to Forbidden Woods storywise and up to Ludwig the something or other in the DLC.The one the looks like a Mutated donkey with added laser cannon.
This DLC really knows how to hurt me emotionally and physically.
>Those Grudgefleas.
>Another Blood Starved beast.
>Fucking Crows everywhere.
>Hunter's everywhere.
>Timed explosives.
>Turret things.
>Tentacle faced axe/cannon wielding giants.
>Exploding weapons.
>Everything about Ludwig.
>That one Flaming ball I keep forgetting about.
God I should've bought the DLC before entering NG+. I've currently got 50 strength and am using Kirkhammer and that lawnmower/pizza cutter, but I'm still doing barely any damage to Ludwig. Is there a way I can up my damage output more? I read somewhere that stats cap at 50 and don't actually raise it anymore after that, so if I start to updgrade Skill or Arcane instead will that help me?
>>321746032
I personally prefer punching myself in the leg when I die, either that or leave the room for a couple minutes. It's less damaging to other stuff.
>>321735669
Sewer, there's a badge near the pig that allows you to buy starting weapons.
>>321736747
Did you know, Father Gascoigne trophy has been unlocked by 63.3% players.
>>321746857
seems to be the game's wake up call that this isn't a slow paced game
>>321739787
poison knifes, threaded cane and the old hunters bone, killed him on the third try. guy was still had as nails but between the poison and the chikage his health dropped pretty quick and he could'nt effectively heal because i'd use the hunters bone to keep up with him and whip him every time he tried.
>>321746857
You have to be retard to imagine everyone beats the game in one play through.
>>321746606
As with other Souls games, stats have diminishing returns which amplify after a certain point.
While you always get a benefit from raising stats, 50 is the cut-off point after which it becomes negligible.
You will now get more damage from going to, say, 15-16 on Kirkhammers B Arcane Scaling than you will going from 50-51 on it's A Strength Scaling. So, yes, put points in Arcane.
Ludwig isn't very hard once you learn his movements. My advice is to bait his successive three strikes attack and roll under him during his final attack, allowing you to get in a hit or two and then roll out again.
His slow overhead slash with his right claw is punishable too, and he's very vulnerable to a few hits after missing with either his laser attack or either of his jumps.
That's for his first form, as for his second- you'll have to learn the timing for dodging his slashes and try to roll through them and get behind him.
Watch out for his overhead smash combo though, it's usually safer to recognise it's signal and then back out of that one.
>>321747245
Thanks I wasn't sure how Stats worked, 'cause this is my first souls game and it kind of doesn't explain it them well.
I haven't even made it to his second form yet, but thanks for the advice man. I still think he sucks though, but then again that could be because I suck.
>>321738752
HARDEST
Ng+5 orphan,fuck everything else
Did you know DSP made it through central yarnham on his first try
>>321747670
Ludwig is one of those get in - get out kind of bosses. You can't hover around in his face and expect to dodge all of his incoming attacks, you should only be near him when he's vulnerable to being hit without retaliating.
Took me a good long while to figure out when he was vulnerable, keep at it and you'll get there in the end- I can solo him without problem now.
That said, if you can it might be easier to just summon someone. He's not so bad when his aggro is divided between two or three people.
>>321741190
two words:music box
>>321732104
Watching let's plays might help, when I played my first sould game I watched someone do a run through the 2nd boss. It helped me get a feel for the way you're meant to approach enemies, timing dodges etc.
The is my first Souls game so I am not doing to great but am rather enjoying the experience. I have access to the Clerical Beast and Gascoingne. Which should I go for first?
>>321747873
I tried summoning a hunter once.
I somehow died faster.
I'll get him eventually, just gotta die a lot.
>>321747889
This music box didn't even help me that much. I just thought it was amusing when you use it.
>>321742408
this was literally the only npc I gave a shit about. her and that hideous little fuck in the church.
>facetank my way through Souls games with Havels/Greatshield/Greatswords and dumping everything on End
>try to play BB for the first time
It was an enlightening experience.
>>321743613
>thinking that's not fair
If you weren't pussyfooting around you wouldn't have gotten wrecked.RIP AND TEAR, not STAND AND WAIT.
>>321748180
Cleric beast is easier, I reckon.
Father Cascoigne is hard at first, but get easier once you learn how to parry/visceral attack him.Use the Tiny Music Box when he goes beast mode, it makes it a tad easier. Also if you can figure out at what level of health he goes beast mode and do a visceral attack just before he reaches that amount of health you'll only have to get in a few hits to end the battle quickly.
>>321740501
Mate did the exact same thing.
Colleague of mine tried to mock me for being 'hardcore' cos I told him Im replaying bloodborne then demon's.
His favourite games this year are FIFA, cod blops3 and star wars battletoads.
Fucking casul fuck.
>>321743613
I don't know what makes you think this wasn't your fault.
>stands near cliff with snakes at bottom
>doesnt look around for enemies
>doesnt hear them
>using ugly armor
>>321748757
Thank you. I actually asked my friend the same question and he told me to do the opposite.
>>321748867
Well you could do it either way really, different people find different bosses hard.
Your friend isn't wrong and I'm not exactly right either.
>>321748994
I get you. I'm not sure which would be the best option for me but I think I'll go with you're way.
so if i find a chalice glyph that had a good gem located in it for the original player, is it guaranteed to drop or does it only have a chance to drop?
>>321749119
Well good luck. The tips I gave you should still help if you have trouble.
>>321743613
>stop paying attention like a retard
>standing close to an edge with 3 enemies behind you
Yes, that was a fair death.
>>321732496
bait them with pebbles, one at a time
>>321732104
Started the game a week or 2 ago OP and also my first Souls game. Best advice is to explore and practice dodging and attacking on other enemies. Also you want to try and unlock as much shortcuts as you can. I died probably 20+ times on the part you are on. Its all about trial and error. Wait till you get to the bosses then you will know the true meaning of rage. I'm on boss # 3 and the poison is bullshit and makes me rage hard.
Good luck anon, just remember to not go in swinging like crazy and use strategy. Also remember to not feel bad about dying, some of my friends died like 20 times on the first enemy aka the werewolf until figuring out how to equip a weapon lol
>>321749871Antidote and Poison resistant armour anon.Blood Starved Beast is optional too.
So I have a slight theory without anything to back it up.
The One Reborn, do you think that could be an attempt at bringing back the Orphan of Kos? It's face looks a fair bit like him. Maybe one of the Mensis Scholars rituals were to bring a Great One back to life, one of them being the Orphan of Kos. The birth/rebirth symbolism is fairly similar and fucked up.
Maybe Orphan is just embodying these deceased corpses of Yahar-gul people. Do we know anything more about the One Reborn?
So I head the Whirligig Saw was nerfed in patch 1.09.
So how was it changed?
Anybody? I used it to beat Laurence in NG++++ and it was anything but overpowered but anyone want to tell me how its been weakened now?
The baby crying you hear at 40+? insight or after the blood moon is Oeden the Formless One communicating.
Well OP good luck with Orphan of Kos. I literally fought him once alone and then always summoned 2 guys, after 20 tries he's dead now. Even worse is the god fucking damn area before him, it's unbeatable alone.
>>321746857
Is that true? So a third of players don't even make it that far? That's depressing.
Even if it's just casuals that don't know how to git gud, I hate the thought of that type of person putting people with a modicum of skill off getting it by word of mouth, people who would otherwise have enjoyed the game.
Where the fuck do I find the god damn Pizzacutter? I am now done with Kos and I feel I missed it.
>>321748757
Tiny Music Box seems usable throughout the fight, I've seen it work at least three times per fight. Just use it, charge-R2 from behind- visceral repeat.
Father Giuseppe is also stupidly weak to molotovs, moreso in his second form. Just save a couple and use them to dispatch him once he transforms, using the Music Box if you have trouble making him hold still.
>>321750106
The women who summoned him are not "School of Mensis" members. They don't have the cage.
The women are what the game calls "Bell-ringing women".
The bell-ringing women are Pthumerians and old women of Cainhurst.
They are Pthumerians because most of the bell items have descriptions that say the bells were found in the chalice dungeons, whom Pthumerians once lived in.
They may be from Cainhurst because one of the portraits looks like a young Bell-ringing woman. (Identified by Jerks Sans Frontieres in youtube)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrVgKL_D0D4
My theory is that Queen Yharnam wants to help the Hunter by flushing the Mensis members out of the Nightmare of Mensis, and they came out as the One Reborn. So when the Hunter enters the dream, only Micolash and the Choir Spy remained inside it.
>can't make a burly big guy or a soft girl with a big butt in character creation
Is this holocaust survivor-the game?
>>321750096
My friend and I had him the first time in his 2nd play through but now I am out of insight so I can summon a NPC or my friend in my game. I want to beat him to get that Damn huge ass sword, I hear it is better then the Kirkhammer since I am in love with that. Thanks anon. We are still trying to take this bastard down! Lol
>>321750536
I know it works beforehand, but his beast form is the hardest part of the fight. Although if you visceral attack just before he enters it, then you don't even need the Music Box for the beast part.
I didn't even have the music box on my first playthrough, so it's entirely possible to do it without the Music Box even if you suck at Bloodborne. As proven by the fact that I made it past him.
>>321750743
Anon...Nothing is better than the Kirkhammer. It has carried me through the entire game and is still killing things in NG+.
You could go find another boss or use a Madman's knowledge if you need insight.
>>321750537
That's pretty interesting. I was gonna say 'but their bodies are all in the building just after One Reborn', but that doesn't matter because they pulled their bodies from the dream.
But why would she try to help you by summoning a giant Great One? Obviously she thought you could handle it, but those Pthumerian/Cainhurst bell ladies are also trying to kill you, so I don't quite understand that.
I like your theory though. The video about the Cainhurst portraits is cool.
>playing this racist inspired hatecraft game
I can't believe you guys would support Bloodborne when it was inspired by that fucking racist Hate PoC Hatecraft.
>>321751045
I think that all of Queen Yharnam's soldiers are just hostile to the hunter. Even in the Chalice Dungeons (where you can fight even her).
You can go back all the way to the Forbidden Woods and check out the "Shadows of Yharnam" boss fight. They are there just to challenge you.
As you beat her servants one after another, and you meet her on top of "Mergo's Loft" at the Nightmare of Mensis, Yharnam herself just stands there and is not hostile to you.
Its as if at that moment, she's thinking, so you just wont fuck off huh? Very well, kill "Mergo's Wet Nurse" for me and retrieve my invisible child.
And after you do that and decide to go back to where Queen Yharnam was, she actually bows down to you for slaying the wet nurse.
Also I think she just fights you in the Chalice Dungeons because you were actually going after her ass and retrieve a trophy (Yharnam Stone, pic related) to show how good you are as a hunter. And retrieving the stone doesn't even mean you killed her, you just beat her in a fight.
>>321751515
And I will support games like this again in the future.
>>321751782
Racist enabler
