>If you kill him, you'll be just like him!
I don't understand
So if the villain is a mass murderer and I'm not but I kill one person which is him that makes me just as worse as him? Despite the fact that he's the guy who killed millions
>>321705862
grew up watching TNG. I thought I'd seen every episode between 2 to 5 times.Watched them all on netflix and I had never seen that episode ever. It was a treat even though it wasn't all that great of an episode.
>>321706608
Isn't that the one where they put Satan on trial? I actually liked that one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTuLg6R_R1Q
>>321707587
Fuck off Dukat
>>321707197
no, it's the one where the ship gets taken over by some stuff and data wears a mask and says shit. season 7 I think.
Why were they pushing Worf and Troi so hard in season 7?
That's right
>>321708482
it's something to do, I think it was ok.
>>321708482
Probably just to give them something to do other than Worf getting ragdolled and Troi talking about sensing the obvious.
>You will never be captain picard in real life
>>321708482
it worked
>2015
>no good star trek tv
>no good star trek films
>no good star trek vidya
Gaming tech has come so far and we still don't have a good modern Trek game
Couldn't Telltale do something? Heck we could even get a decent RPG out of it if devs gave a shit
>>321709775
Not really. Troi a shit, and Worf immediately runs off to fuck a slug lady.
>>321710061
>Gaming tech has come so far and we still don't have a good modern Trek game
That's because CBS stopped giving a shit once Nemesis flopped and Enterprise was cancelled, which caused Activision to drop the license. CBS and Paramount only care about making shitty generic movies and games and slapping the Trek name on them, just like what Disney and EA are doing with Star Wars.
>You will never mirror universe kira
>>321710061
>no good star trek films
Fuck you
>Couldn't Telltale do something?
Fuck you again. You're complaining about lack of good Star Trek vidya and yet you'd settle for Telltale shit.
>>321708482
Because she's Worf it.
>>321705862
Has he come to laugh at someone?
>>321710439
>Disney
>not saving Star Wars
Yeah, let's totally disregard that they've given us the best Star Wars movie in over 3 decades because one of the characters is black and the other is a bit of a Mary Sue.
>>321711027
and it being only decent because it's a remake of a new hope. prequels were shit but they at least expanded the universe in some way.
>>321711027
>the best Star Wars movie in over 3 decades
When your only competition is the prequels, that's not hard. Doesn't change that it's generic Abrams crap that's specifically designed to be as "marketable" as possible instead of trying to be a legitimately good movie, which is the same problem as the Trek reboot movies and games, and the new Battlefront.
>>321707197
whaat? Did i miss that episode?
That pic is from one where they interact with a meteoroid which fuses with the ship, its ancient and powerful. Changes the ship into some old sun god culture shit and he does some ritual and gets the other dude to give up the throne.
>>321710924
You...actually like Abrams shit?
Fuck off and die.
>>321711027
>a bit
shes a fucking boring character AND a mary sue.
>>321711534
the first trek he did was good, I was surprised by how much I liked it considering I absolutely hated cloverfield and lost
>>321711663
haven't seen the movie but is this really true or are you just another misanthrope angry at women?
>>321706608
I'm in a similar situation but I always seemed to miss the episode where Picard goes on leave to Risa. Something always comes up and I miss it. I've seen the first 10 or so minutes at most.
![twod18[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/v0zqdSN.jpg "twod18[1].jpg")
>>321711304
>When your only competition is the prequels, that's not hard.
VII is better than VI too. I get that VII borrows too much from IV but it's not like it isn't doing new things and setting up its own universe too. The people who imply that it's a 1:1 are beyond retarded.
>>321711534
>You...actually like Abrams shit?
I do because I'm not some underage /tv/ or /pol/ regurgitator who actually knows what bad Star Trek films look like
I'm sorry I see this meme all the time and i'm afraid I need to put an end to it.
Can you please name at least 5 games that do this? No you cannot. Quit memeing this is a movie trope
>>321710927
>>321712051
>Can you please name at least 5 games that do this?
Uncharted 2 and Persona 3 come to mind. I'm sure someone else can fill in the blanks
>>321708482
need something for worf to do really aside from getting told no by picard
>>321712259
was a major theme in warcraft 3 though those words themselves were never specifically said
>>321711802
she is a boring character period. the mary sueness just amplified how shitty she was. if the mc was a dude i'd call him out on being just as fucking boring and gary stu, it has nothing to do with gender you tumblr FUCK.
BUT YOU WILL
>>321705862
How true, this is why Undertale won greatest game of all time. Violence is NEVER the answer.
>>321712051
Days of Ruin did it, but the character killed the fatass anyways.
>>321712445
are you referencing the cartoon?
>you kill the villain
>turns out he was just the future version of yourself
>you literally become him when you kill him
>>321712580
Gee I hope so or I'm posting out of my ass
>>321712410
no it isn't. not at all. in fact killing the demons is good in w3
https://youtu.be/Zln_fzkqK-k?t=19m7s
start at 19:07 obviously
>>321712806
>implying that doesn't spread their corruption
>>321706608
This happened to me with the Simpsons during that marathon from 2 years ago. It was a marge centric episode from one of the first 5-6 seasons.I started to panic and turned off the stream. couldn't handle there being an episode I hadn't seen.
>>321712806
I think he was referencing the Maiive versus Illidan Story.
>Defeat villain
>Villain begs for death
>Good guys spare him/her just to spite them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeBDvM3pBgo&t=1m20s
Skip to 1:20 if the embed doesn't work correctly.
>>321712826
Rad.
BUT WHAT IF I WANNA BE LIKE PICARD
I GET TO PILOT A SPACE SHIP AND BE LOVED BY MILLIONS OF FANS
HELL YEAH I'D KILL PICARD IF I COULD BE JUST LIKE HIM
>>321713102
turns out not killing picard makes him a low ranking cuck. they had an episode on it actually
>>321713172
HAHAHA IM GETTING STABBED IN THE HEART RIGHT NOW. HAHAHA OH GOD TIME LOOPS
>>321713172
I love how everyone's like "Fuck off m8 you've never shown any charisma or leadership ability"
It's almost like mistakes must be made to forge a man or something.
>>321712996
that voice seems a bit out of place, no?
>>321713334
Which one?
>>321713374
the one doomed to have her soul burned in hell forever, she sounds like a little girl not a villain
>>321713453
That's because she is a little girl, who got possessed by evil gods.
>>321713721
>>321713453
Also, she's not going to burn in hell forever, she's just going to be forced to see all the bad shit she caused.
>>321713172
>Its a "Data learns that murder is ok sometimes" episode
>>321713808
IN HELL
>>321713889
>OK, final word: all violence against women is barbaric. If my concerns about language led some to think otherwise, then I gladly apologize.
can't you find enough real reasons to hate the guy?
>>321714167
>>321706608
Watch babylon 5 it is the superior show
>>321711987
>jjdrone calling others underage
>>321713889
>It's a data gets raped by denise crosby episode
>it's a data physically assaults troi episode
>it's a data gets posessed by a an ancient god episode
>it's a data gets fucked up by his brother episode
>it's a data gets fucked up by his brother again episode
>It's a data dances with doctor milf episode
>It's a data does nothing while the enterprise gets fucked up episode
>it's a data saves everyone by being inexplicably immune to the monster of the week episode
>It's a data loses his memory episode
>how do we know if we can trust you?
>you don't
>>321714503
>it's a wesley saves the day episode
>Its a 'Picard and crew impose their simplistic, naive, leftist worldview on aliens just trying to get by without Federation faggots coming in and ruining their shit while taking the moral highground' episode
>>321714638
You cold of just gone with
>It's a wesley episode
>>321714727
>it's a "You will never stop the drakeposting faggot" reality
>Its a 'Wesley Snipes kills a bunch of vampires' episode
>>321714727
>no idea where I am
>no idea what they're talking about
>but I know that its popular so I must hate it
>>321714503
>Its a "Data is imitated by a child who believes he murdered all his family and friends" episode
>>321714203
I know, right? How dare people call out this idiot on what he said, in the context in which he said it? Don't they know he attempted to meekly shimmy away from the stupidity he spewed as soon as he realized people weren't going for it? It's 2015 for crying out loud!
>>321714727
>It's a "Picard explains why their views are right when confronted with a Starfleet/Federation dude who's acting like a moron" episode
>Picard, kill all the Borg
>No! Then I'll be no better than them!
Ideological purity is small comfort to everyone turned into a Drone after you refused to make the hard choice, Jean-Luc
>>321714503
>>321714638
>it's another episode where they get trapped in the holodeck and for some reason they haven't decided to close the holodeck until they can make sure this shit won't happen again in 3 weeks.
>>321714916
This should take care of most of these normalfag posters
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>>321714959
an argument over semantics is such a dumb reason to hate a politician, that shit doesn't matter at all compared to their policies
>>321715017
>The holodeck safety is off by default
>>321715007
fucking admiral bitchaev
>>321714727
>It's a Riker shags an alien episode
>It's a clean shave riker episode
>>321715094
His policies are minority apologism.
>Picard refuses to wipe out the Borg, dooming millions, maybe even billions of lives
>while he gladly, with no remorse, kills members of his crew turned by the Borg, not giving them the chance he had to be turned back
>we don't take kindly to people who kill people around here
jesus christ really?
>>321711987
>VII better than Return of the Jedi
ishygdtt
>>321714871
>>321714638
This fucker is the only reason why I prefer the original over TNG
>>321715010
its even worse considering from what we know of the borg their civilization makes no distinction between soldiers and civilians, their fleet is their society, so its not like he would have been killing civilians.
Though I've never had to make the choice to genocide an unknown number of billions (maybe even trillions) at the push of a button.
>>321715268
Goddammit Skeeter, shut the hell up.
>>321715283
Oh and Riker too.
>>321706259
Welcome to political correctness.
Vote Trump 2016
>>321714934
He's shitposting but its obvious he has watched the show you dumb faggot.
>>321715017
>people are using the holodeck technology to pretend to be detectives and solve mysteries rather than porn
>>321715253
That's what happens when you write a DS9 movie starring the TNG cast.
>>321715283
Just watch Deep space 9 instead.
>>321715480
Except Broccoli
He used the holodeck for petty power fantasies, like an actual human
>>321715268
>Dr. Crusher, I'm UFP
>>321715249
part of being a tossed salad is having some degree of openness to allow people to maintain the traditions of the old country
>>321714727
>>321715403
why do you support this man?
>>321715563
>DS9
>where all the crew except for like 3 characters are decent
>>321706259
In videogames you almost always commit a genocide to reach the last guy.
So it makes even less sense because you're already like him in a way.
>>321715702
He's controlled opposition to pull votes away from our man Rand
>>321715253
>Picard tells everyone to kill any now Borg crew members as they have no chance of being turned human again
>nevermind him, Huey, Seven of Nine and countless others that have been saved
That shit annoyed me so fucking much.
>it's a there are literally people's souls stuck in the fucking transporter buffer that no one knows about episode
>>321715702
He's against the OP's quote, for one.
>>321715704
I wanted to write the exact opposite what the fuck
>where all the crew except for like 3 characters is shit
>hero has a strict no kill policy
>final boss is literally trying to destroy the world
>no way to stop him other than a fight to the death
>story gives the hero not one but two deus ex machinas to get around this personal no win scenario
>>321714871
>It's a "Picard gives a speech about how much Wesley is a giant fuckup, guest starring Not Tom Paris" episode
>just finshed TNG
>did a guide where i could skip episodes
which episode is this?
>>321715829
Go to bed, Bones.
>>321715985
>skipping episodes
>>321710290
Troi stopped being shit in season 5 or 6, when she put on the uniform and started pulling her weight
>>321715985
>did a guide where i could skip episodes
Fuck off.
>>321715576
Like honor killings?
>>321715637
>Riker is a notorious rapist that picard only keeps around to keep him in check, know full well that he would turn any crew he had under his command into a harem in a matter of days.
>The only reason Picard doesn't space the prick is because Riker has dirt on picard that would be made public in the vent of his death, the stress of this situation is why Picard is permanently bald.
>>321707197
>put Satan on trial
>the entire religion turns out to be a fraud and 'Satan's' tricks turn out to be smoke and mirrors
>the subtle implication that all religion is just belief in the fantastical, and those that profess to represent it are charlatans
>Jean-Luc is having none of that shit
Remember when Sci-Fi was based on the assumption that humanity had a better future waiting for it? Watch some more recent science fiction (what little there is) and tell me the people writing it actually believe it might some day be real.
>it's Die Hard: Enterprise
>>321710061
Grand Theft Enterprise is a fucking amazing Star Trek game.
Not even kidding, go play it.
>>321715985
>finished TNG
>skipped episodes
>>321716149
please stop pretending to be retarded, you're insulting both of us
>>321716232
That would explain why Riker murdered two people and literally no one cared.
>>321715985
>just finshed TNG
>did a guide where i could skip episodes
Pick one you fucking retard, you haven't finished a series if you missed episodes.
>>321716374
>watching Troi episodes
>>321714503
>its a data causes a breakdown in an old woman becuase she killed a unique being for her son episode
name one character who gives less fucks then data
>>321716275
That was such a good episode.
DS9 is amazing, but there were priceless moments in TNG that nothing could beat.
>>321715017
>its an episode where the warp core is breached
>>321716531
Nigga learn to read
>>321716532
curzon dax
>>321716271
science fiction has always had stories with utopian futures and stories with dystopian futures
the best science fiction stories though are ones that don't simply take todays problems and magnify them, but rather try to imagine what the unique problems of a different era would be. Note how so much science fiction of the cold war era predicted it only intensifying or leading to humanity's destruction, it now seems naive and dated today.
Never watched any st is it worth watching if you didn't watch it growing up
>inb4 spoiler i don't give a fuck
>>321716531
i wonder what that smelled like
>>321716502
this is why i skipped episodes /v/
i'm sorry if this offends you
>>321716802
[spioler] spokc dies
>>321716836
But you don't even know what he is referring to you moron, you let the opinions of someone else dictate what you watched like a fucking drone, there might have been episodes marked bad - skip this one that the person who made the list thought was bad but you personally thought was good. Do you have no fucking opinion of your own to form you fucking retard?
>>321716802
Watch movie 2 and 4. Then watch TNG. Then DS9. Then stop.
>it's a the Enterprise gets caught in a time loop where it keeps blowing up, taking a dozen children screaming into the abyss each time episode
>it's a the Enterprise gets into ridiculous trouble and almost blows up and no one wonders why they brought children along on such a dangerous mission episode
>>321716802
yeah its good, its all on netflix
I'd say a good episode that captures the tone of the series at its best is voyager season 2 episode 23, give that a watch and see if this sort of thing is your cup of tea.
>>321714373
>>321715281
Just proving that VII naysayers are a bunch of memers
>>321717085
>E class
What
>>321715702
Because he's OP.
>>321717085
>that episode where data's creator activates some kind of homing beacon which overrides Data's systems causing him to commandeer the ship and lock everyone out of the bridge
>entire first half of the episode is about the crew trying and failing to wrest control back of the ship
>at the end of the episode there is absolutely no fallout over the fact that data was remote controlled and caused the enterprise to fly away from its mission, never mind the fact that someone with a real agenda could some day use that technology.
This bothered me, what captain would allow an android on his ship after that incident?
>>321717384
It's Picard's ship in First Contact
>>321717384
The Sovereign class from First Contact
>>321717072
i don't have 150 hours to waste honestly anon
i am sorry
>>321711987
>>321714373
People who think the new star trek movies are the worst ones should go watch generations
the general disservice it does to the series and star trek in general is difficult to describe
>>321717608
and yet here you are
>>321715702
Because v is filled with antisocial, backwards ass cucks that freak out when they something that's different
>>321705862
His eyes open.
>>321717654
what the fuck is v
>>321717515
Data did nothing wrong since
>>321717686
Anon and anon, shitposting on 4chan
>>321715814
To be fair, those are isolated situations, he's currently stuck 200 years in the past with no backup.
Not really the same.
>>321710061
>Gaming tech has come so far and we still don't have a good modern Trek game
It's coming, it'll just need a star trek skin modded onto it.
The game is so star trek you even have policy for how to handle pre-spacefaring civilization and the way you advance the tech tree is by sending out ships that are basically the enterprise to explore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxTT258PmNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRp7T5irXTQ
Reminder
>never got into Star Trek
>never got into Star Wars
>only sci-fi series I ever got into wasBSG
Not sure how to feel.
>>321717610
The problem with the JJTrek movies, and JJWars, is not the quality, but the fact that they're generic sci-fi movies intentionally designed to try and be as "safe" as possible while having little interesting from their respective franchises. They feel like they were written by people who have no idea what Star Trek and Star Wars are about besides the cliff notes character summaries.
>>321717890
>not all star treks being glorious while star wars is shit.
>>321717890
>Insaneway not last
I never could stomach this particular bait.
>>321717920
>BSG
That's not a bad thing anon
>>321717890
>Would take a black Captain over a Female Captain
Trek fans everybody
>>321717970
They feel like they were written by people who have no idea what Star Trek and Star Wars are about besides the cliff notes character summaries.
SW prequels feel much more this way than the JJtrek
>"So...you people are on some sort of...Star Trek™ First Contact
Fucking dropped.
>>321717890
how the fuck is TNG worse than voyager
but yes Deep Space Nine is best.
>>321718086
True. Sure as hell wasn't perfect but it was damn good plenty of times.
>>321717920
>Not sure how to feel
Just feel bad about the lack of closure to your own series
>>321706259
This is why I love Yuri Lowell.
>>321718192
>So this... this has truly been a Star Trek The Motion Picture III: The search For Spock.
Wow fuck off picard
>>321718263
holy shit this webm has parkinson's
>>321715702
I admire his abilities as a shitposter. As a habitual shitposter, I'm going to vote for him because I feel he represents guys like me and he pisses off neo-/v/, normies, and sjws alike.
>>321717596
>>321717592
I haven't seen any st movies. That explains it. Does anyone know the advantage to just making their ships bigger and bigger? Or is that something they do so the audience associates it with lower? Discounting the Defiance, obviously.
>>321718112
>black captain
Spoilers, buddy.
>>321717920
You should check out Babylon 5.
>>321718192
>I am Captain Benjamin Sisko, welcome...to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Fuck you Roddenberry.
>it's a Sisko compromises his personal principles to save the lives of millions but he can live with it episode
>>321718121
And as mentioned, the prequels are a really low bar for comparison. Superior writers were able to take that setting and tone and do something good with it. JJWars felt like it ignored absolutely everything to be a generic JJ Abrams film with Star Wars slapped on it.
>>321718557
He can live with that, anon. He CAN live with that.
>>321716831
haha me too (jk)
>>321718608
>complaining about Ep VII feeling too much like IV
>complaining that Ep VII feels too much like an Abrams joint
Make up your mind.
>>321718294
With the "it's all a cycle!" stuff? Sure.
>>321718434
You what?
>>321718538
Perhaps one day.I made some actress in that show laugh at a shitty joke I made during a BSG episode screening at a Con several years ago.
>>321717890
Enterprise is literally master race
>>321718917
said no one ever
>>321718917
dad?
>>321718802
It shouldn't feel like either. It should feel like a continuation of VI but with some unique new elements brought to the table.
Are we all looking forward to that new series they're making for 2017?
>>321718965
Pleb
>>321717970
Alright, I can understand this point of view if you're a Star Trek fan because the standard pace of the shows are nothing like the movies turn out to be, but get real. Star Wars 4-6 had nothing in it that couldn't be considered "safe". There is nothing that happens in TFA that (aside from the more grand special effects) would have felt out of place set in the originals, and vice-versa. You're making a lot of vague statements and not a lot of specific examples. WHAT is safe? What is "not like Star Wars"?
>>321717727
v is a synonym for reddit dot com
>>321714326
Fucking gross.
Babylon fans go away.
>>321718718
HE CAN LIVE WITH IT
>>321719138
Every star wars movie except for 7 has at least in some way been weird and experimental. Because that's what Lucas does.
The aliens being just normal, the art and prop design being battered and dirty, these things weren't really things before star wars, not in the way they were afterwards. Even star trek did make a deal out of aliens rather than just having them -be-
The only safe thing in the original really was the fact that it was standard mythology ala hero of a thousand faces. Hell even using WW2 fighter planes as an inspiration for your space battles was new and experimental.
>>321718557
More like billions.
>>321718802
>>complaining about Ep VII feeling too much like IV
Never did that, genius.
>>321705862
boss can get hurt only 1 way
boss keeps on doing that thing you can counter
>>321718917
It was okay. Not bad, but not particularly good.
It should have gotten a few more seasons.
>it's a human doesn't understand the value of currency and badgers his best friend into spending his entire life savings on a baseball card episode
>>321714638
there is no character I hate in any media more than that smarmy cunt
>>321719931
>that one episode where Jake out-Ferengis Nog
>that one episode later on where Nog does the same with O'Brien, highlighting character growth
>>321720262
Nog became my favorite character in DS9
>>321714326
>>321714326
I've seen every episode of that show too. I liked it but TNG is far more rewatchable.
The Walking Dead comic addressed this story-arc in an incredibly satisfying way, allowing one of the best characters to remain and for him to suffer a much deserving fate.
The Walking Dead video game, not so much. Carson was very imaturely handled imo
I'm glad that I inadvertently turned this into a scifi tv show discussion thread.
>>321720718
I'm watching the PTSD episode right now.
Nog is a little bitch.
>>321720923
Who the hell is Carson.
>>321720923
I stopped following TWD a little into the Negen arc. Did anything interesting ever develop with Carl, besides growing up to be a BUSTA?
>>321715960
What is this?
I want to be upset.Last Airbender?
>>321725053
>ATLA
Use the correct name you jackass.
