Why are people suddenly caring about censorship?
/pol/ gets bored between chimp outs plus a lot of young people hate Nintendo.
Shit is "censored" all the time but nobody cares unless the usual suspects (see: microdick nigga) create a shitposting campaign.
Hope that clears it up.
>>321686410
Because it takes the lewdness out of our gaems
>>321686410
Why do you keep making this thread?
>>321686410
I guess people are looking up games online to see what is being changed. I'm glad it's becoming more publicized, companies changing shit for no reason may stop.
which side are you on /v/
>>321687187
>for no reason
Even if it upsets me, I know that this is not the case.
They don't change it for no reasons, just bad reasons.
It's not random, that implies it couldn't be effectively stopped.
Because those 3 seconds of that girl spanking her butt is literally the most important thing happening in the world today
Only weaboo pedofags care about "censorship" that in reality, is just localization
>>321687395
Anti-skub
>>321686410
Because it's 90% unnecessary and only done to appease the people that don't buy nor play any vidya.
Good people enact change, shitters want change to be done for them.
>>321688143
Fuck off Quintin
>>321687395
skubfags OUT
>>321688202
Sorry my friend, the Diamond Dogs are here with me.
>>321688209
>>321688212
We're going to take back what is ours.
>>321686410
because the internet. 10 years ago, the only people that raised a ruckus about it were those into the the niche games. most didn't care because they didn't know
>>321686410
Because GG happened, and SJW gave /v/ a boogymen to latch onto whenever something gets changed, even though 98% of censorship in videogames have absolutely nothing to do with them. Otherwise, there are tons of censored games that /v/ loved, either recent or older games, yet /v/ wouldn't care about it.
>/v/ claims to be against censorship
>still gives Valve money
>>321686410
Because in this day and age you can actually go on the internet and find out what you weren't good enough to get.
Because we don't like being babysitted by shitty localization companies who get upset at everything that isn't politically correct.
I'm not getting the full content because some faggot THINKS it MIGHT offend SOMEONE.
I honestly can't think of a single game I've played where its been censored, or at least not to my knowledge. Then again I don't play Japanese games so thats probably the reason.
>>321688762
are you gonna be mad at the game developers when they do it themselves
>>321686410
I, and others, always have. I've complained about it for at least 15 years. It goes against my personal beliefs. Even if something I don't care about is censored I will still argue against it. I really don't care about bikinis in a horror game. Fanservice is great, but I don't think it belongs in a horror game. In fact, fansrevice in Japanese media has gone completely out of control and is often annoying as fuck. I will still argue against censoring it though.
But most people are mad now because they wanted to play as girls in bikinis.
>>321686410
>people care that something gets censored to protect other people who probably don't even care about the protect
>people care that something they should be entitled to play and receive gets changed by people who get butthurt over the content in it, even though those people will never consume the content anyway
don't pretend censoring stuff like lewdness or dialog is needed. It's fucking disgusting that stuff gets censored for the reasons it does.
worlds gone soft.
I love fallacies so fucking much
>>321688635
Many people are against whatever is emotionally appealed to them the most effectively.
Nobody is complaining about actual censorship.
people on /v/ are so fucking stupid they'll fight tooth and nail to deny the status of games as art then make this stupid ruckus wnen they get treated as the products they are.
pick one or the other idiotic weebs.
>>321686410
The gays are getting their rights left and right.
Yet lewd shit and porn stuff is getting more and more censored in prudish and retarded ways.
This isn't progress. It's just flavor of the month circle jerking in politics. Everyone's on about muh progress, muh progress. Well stop censoring shit, then.
Don't like thing? Don't partake in it. Why is this so hard? Why do people have to go out of their way to deny EVERYONE something across the board?
>>321686410
Because they feel their private space is being attacked.
>>321686410
I can't complain about things I don't know about. I've always hated censorship; now that I'm aware of instances of it, I'm vocal against it.
>>321689319
>Yet lewd shit and porn stuff is getting more and more censored in prudish and retarded ways.
I can't believe Google tried to remove porn from blogspot. That utterly floored me. That was when my long held suspicion that we're moving backwards as a society in regards to pornography were true. We should be moving *fowarward*, why the fuck are we moving *backward*? Bored people with vacuous lives can't be the only cause, can they?
I think another anon was on to something when he said that society has peaked and we've got no place to go but down.
>>321686410
Suddenly? How new are you? /v/ has been caring about censorship since as far as when Mugen Souls was released censored in the west. And actually even before when the scumbags at Carpe fulgur censored the shit of Fortune Summoners.
Why are weebs so fucking pathetic /v/?
nobody else is as petty, as uncultured and as idiotic as your average 4chan weeb.
>suddenly
underage
>>321686410
nice try
>>321688902
I blame political correctness myself.
>>321687395
LEGALIZE SKUB
>>321686410
>Suddenly
Is this a new meme?
industry is trying to see if they have any support for anti censorship so they can insert political agendas into videogames without anything standing in the way
>>321690019
Censorship is a buzzword now.
>>321690258
It's not like 6000 /v/irgins (at best) provide that much resistance when they don't bother leaving their hugbox.
>>321687187
If they haven't stopped 30+ years in, I doubt they will just because a few outspoken faggots decide to "boycott" a few games that probably weren't going to make a lot of money in the first place.
>>321689708
>Carpe fulgur censored the shit of Fortune Summoners.
What did they censor in that game? I played it, but never finished it. Stopped sometime after where the demo ends I think.
>>321686410
Well according to /v/, pre release in house developmental changes without any thrid-party forcing them to change their own game is now considered censorship. And if they knew exactly how often this occurs with videogames, they'd have a stroke becuase everything we see if the first trailer or demo is exactly what the final product will be like. So what the fuck does /v/ know anything about actual censorship? /v/ is also hypocritical to say they're suddenly against it when past and present games they adore have been censored, but just now changed their minds when it comes to it, even if the internet and 4chan wasn't as big back then, they're still wasn't a lot of backlash from fans unless a company severely fucked up
This whole censorship brigade, mostly over fanservice in Jap games, has been spammed and shitposted from weebs trying to shove their opinion down everyone's throats, while not even doing a fucking thing to stop it, as if bithcing on an anonymous board for months will make companies take them seriously. It's now become another topic to shitpost and spam with, just like SJWs and GG, review scores, twitter e-celeb drama, and console wars and PC vs console faggotry. It's another fucking meme used now to start flamewars with others.
>>321690771
/thread
>>321690771
>without any thrid-party forcing them
>this is what censorshipfags actually believe
>>321690771
>without any thrid-party forcing them
Yeah now the devs are trained to be trigger-safe. That's worse.
>>321686410
because underage 8gagers didn't grew up with MK without blood and Castlevania without crosses.
>>321691103
Yeah, it's really terrible that devs are making games with other people in mind and not you
>>321691103
Yeah, it's so terrible that devs remove five seconds of a chick slapping her ass, that really bogs down the gameplay IMHO.
/sarcasm
>>321691473
>IMHO
>/sarcasm
>>>/r/4chan
>>321686410
Fuck I wish all the teenagers on this board would just fucking die.
Cenorship has been a problem since forever; you had to put in a fucking "blood code" into the nintendo port of Mortal Kombat
I thought with some of the slightly edgy / racey titles on the Wii (Mad World, Onechanbara, couple other things), the word "shit" be uncensored on TV, that maybe we were finally catching up to Europe.
But NOPE, time for assholes pretending to be activists to make a bunch of fake controversy so they can rake in those clickbux and get invited to TV shows and talk at the UN.
I can't fucking believe Japan would cave to these idiots, what a bunch of spineless stupid fucking idiots, as if anyone but shithead weebs are buying these weeb games, and then they go and piss off their tiny fanbase?
Fucking retarded.
>>321686410
Because it's the latest /v/ maymay designed to incite flamewars against Nintendo while sticking it to SJWs to boot.
>>321691473
>man, this buttslap could offend people, maybe we should remove it
>as long as it doesn't change the gameplay, it's fine!
>man, this song could be seen as offensive, maybe we should remove it
>as long as it doesn't change the gameplay, it's fine!
>man, this plot point is a little bit racist, maybe we should remove it
>as long as it doesn't change the gameplay, it's fine!
>>321691656
>it's happened since forever, that means it's fine!
Like yeah, why did they get rid of slavery? It had been going since forever at that point, what was so bad about it?
>>321691628
>Opinion doesn't conform to mine
>Must be from reddit/tumblr/8fag/etc.
Like clockwork.
>>321686410
>suddenly
its always been around its just when they win/lose a battle of a certain censorship they go on to another one
>>321691073
Are you really implying companies can never make any changes to their own game unless someone outside told them to do it? Because that's a very blasphemous. I hope you never enjoyed Persona 4 or Wind Waker or else you'd be forever butthurt
Free market will fix it, eventually.
>>321691782
>Equating the removal of a sexy outfit/footage to slavery
Man, you fags are pathetic.
>>321689668
Some things are tolerable and apply to "more freedoms", some things aren't though. Those who control content get to pick what falls where.
Might makes right, in this case might is being in control of whatever it is that is the subject of the censorship.
Koei Tecmo controls Dead or Alive Xtreme 3
Google controls blogspot
Bethesda controls Elder Scrolls
Valve controls Steam
They call the shots ultimately and yes the market enables their strength but they know they control the market (well less so in Koei Tecmo and Bethesda's cases, but definitely the other ones), they have almost nothing to fear, all actions like that are calculated. Google knows what it can and can't get away with and calculates pros/cons for every possible business decision, same with the others.
We matter less, those of us that don't like this kind of thing. We're just niche. The bigger the market, the more you get your way.
>>321687395
Hi
>>321691919
Free market should have fixed Capcom.
I'm still waiting.
>2015 video games
>why is censorship bad? all we're doing is making sure undesirables don't get to ingest their filth
>1955 books and movies
>why is censorship bad? all we're doing is making sure undesirables don't get to ingest their filth
>>321691782
All vidya needed back then was a basic premise, awesome music, and some great gameplay.
All of this superflous bullshit was only added as a dick measuring contest for companies to show off which console could make the prettiest screenshots.
>>321692108
>>321687395
Do not drag my fucking good name into this shit.
>>321692125
Capcom has been getting better, I can't even think of anything to complain about with them in the last two years except not localizing great ace attorney yet
>>321691919
the free market is what's censoring these games
their customers are the ones that demand censorship and the companies supply it
>>321691856
>Are you really implying companies can never make any changes to their own game unless someone outside told them to do it?
I can't quite make out if your brain is high or low on Mountain Dew(TM).
You implied that the changes that happened didn't occur because of a third-party influence, as if the chilling effect didn't exist. That's what I was getting at, you idiot.
>>321691935
>missing the point
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're an autist that has reading comprehension issues. So try again, if you would.
>>321692450
OK, and?
It's not censorship you fucking idiots, its localization. Japan does have a different culture you know. They need to change things that could be seen as offensive here. It's just how it is. No amount of petitions or whatever is going to change that.
>violence is systematically censored from European, Australian, and Japanese releases since the beginning of time
>generates a modest amount of discussion from time to time
>anime panties no longer visible in one game
>stop the fucking presses
>>321690771
>referencing /v/ in the third person despite being a poster on it
Why do people do this? Do you realize how dumb you sound?
>>321693069
>Japan does have a different culture you know
I thought we lived in tolerant times?
>>321692867
I sincerely hope that you are just baiting for (you)s.
>>321689296
You cannot deny that of which it isn't.
>>321693173
It's almost as if there are non europeans.
>>321693292
different culture is only an excuse if you're a muslim hatemonger
>>321692803
>their customers are the ones that demand censorship
Actually no, the people that want censorship don't actually buy the products they're complaining about. It's only a matter of time before publishers catch on and realize they're doing more harm than good to their sales tampering with products for different regions.
>>321693292
It's not tolerant with pedo scum and nobody has to be.
HOW DARE THEY TOUCH MY JAPANESE ANIMES
>>321693335
>oh shit, he's kicking my ass in this argument that shouldn't even be an argument
>uh I know! i'll just use the (you) meme! yeah, that will show him!
Sorry ma'am, next time I'll think twice before squaring off against an opponent of such ebin mind.
>>321693458
It's almost as if America can't deal with reality.
>>321693515
>>321693464
>tolerant for what doesn't offend me
Doesn't seem tolerant.
Tolerance would be accepting things that make you uncomfortable, not just the things that don't.
Nobody is harmed by cartoon girls, even if they dislike them very much.
>>321689296
Games should be given freedom of expression k thx.
>>321693173
Yeah, everything should be banned in Europe, not just violence.
>>321693467
>the people that want censorship don't actually buy the products they're complaining about
yeah and? have you seen the majority of people who do buy the products? their mindset is
>whatever, who cares if they change some costumes i want to play the game
>>321693521
What a silly non argument.
I think people here on /v/ are just getting real tired of cut content no matter how little it is.
>>321693689
What are you blabbering about exactly?
>>321693725
JUST IGNORE THEM AND IT WILL GO AWAY
>>321693464
>>321693515
>We're so tolerant with everyone!
>wait, this shit offends me! censor it to hELLLLLLLLLL
>>321693725
Yeah they won, about 30 years ago before they were all up in arms like today.
>>321693917
HOHOHO BUT YOU SEE
FOUR-CHAN DIDN'T **ACTUALLY** IGNORE THEM!!!!11
HOOOOHOHOHO!
>>321686410
>suddenly
It's definitely not new for me
Reminder most of this censorship is due to Australia and it's conservative moral police government. Keep hatin da evil liburals though
>>321693963
She forgot to pull down her shorts. That's gonna make a mess.
>>321694194
It's more due to Germany and America but eh whatever.
>>321693963
Nobody has ever claimed to be tolerant with pedo scum, thanks for uploading your filth, i'm sure the fbi will appreciate you coming out as a pedo.
>>321693792
So if they were to keep the product unchanged they would have those majority of consumers PLUS the people that wouldn't have bought the game with the titty monster outfit taken out. One day it will be clear to them that the offended people aren't the consumers.
>>321694194
You misspelled America.
>suddenly
I remember when everyone on /v/ would laugh at germans and australians for having censored violence. the only thing that suddenly happened is that when the issue turned into sexy stuff being censored insecurity kicked in and now it's "oh it's not real censorship" and "you only care when it's boobs because you're 12."
>>321691473
>>321691782
>censorship is ok if it doesn't touch the gameplay
No it isn't.
>>321687395
Based skub.
>/v/ has become as bad as sjws now
Pottery
>>321690771
There is something about amerifails I could never put my finger on. But now I know what it is, they are so eloquent in being wrong that they almost sound smart. Of course they are are a mile away from the actual point while doing so.
>>321694306
Even though you're baiting, let me just ask:
Is there harm in cartoon little girls?
Why should I ever tolerate censorship?
>>321694385
That's exactly what I was getting at with all that greentext, you idiot.
>>321694516
There's a reason why its distribution is illegal but keep trying to argue against law like the little deranged autist you are
>>321694331
the american government hasnt censored anything for many decades
american puritanical assholes are common in both the right and left political sphere though, they've even convinced most of the population that the age of consent is 18 even though it's 16 in most states
>>321694095
You're not being patient enough or consistent enough.
Remember the moral authority folks in the 90's?
Guess where they are now? Who the fuck knows, the "SJWs" have replaced them.
There will be another force in the future, probably in 15 years.
The moralists in the 90's were our Nazis, the SJWs are the Communists. Somebody will become the Muslims for us in a few more years.
The world turns.
>>321694662
Here is that (You) you ordered
>>321694662
But you didn't answer my question.
>>321694662
>if a law says a thing is bad, then it must be!
Wow, what a fucking sheep. If there was a law that banned ice cream, would you be arguing that ice cream is bad?
None of you actually care about censorship.
Case closed.
>>321694824
>le you meme
>little autistic brat has to call every opinion he disagrees with b8 to deal with cognitive dissonance
like clockwork
>>321686410
because tits and ass are the ONLY reason people buy fighting games.
>>321693069
Call it whatever the fuck you want, the end result is the same and I will not buy any "localized" game and I will bitch to all hell about it.
Deal with it 14 year old
>>321694875
Further, he is actually wrong about the law.
Distribution in anomalous in the united states.
Possession is not illegal. In some states distribution is legal.
>>321694875
>making a retarded food analogy
thanks /v/, never change.
>>321694662
Are you Australian? Be honest.
>>321694936
Uh, you don't get to demand real responses to lazy bait.
>>321694936
You are talking to more than one person.
Can you please answer my question?
I don't think I was rude in how I asked it or phrased it.
>>321686410
>suddenly
Vidya censorship has always been talked about, but it's been on the way down since the 90s. Unfortunately ever since SJWs got a foothold censorship has been on the way up.
As such people are talking about censorship more.
>>321694662
Loli is not legal anywhere in the US
>>321693069
>I'm retarded, and don't know how words work, and parrot other people's opinions instead of educating myself
you must be american.
>>321695159
>but it's been on the way down since the 90s
Nigga it's been that way since the 80s.
>>321695250Did you mean not illegal? :)
>>321695120
>he insists
sure thing anon, everyone that's repulsed by pedos is baiting.
>>321695296
Nintendo censoring every religious reference and covering up as much skin as possible was 90s as well.
>company decides to sell an automatic variation of their car to amerrifats instead of manual
>FUCKING CENSORSHIP
>company decides to sell halal burgers in their Pakistan restaurants and not their normal meat
>FUCKING CENSORSHIP
>company decides to do X to appeal to a different demographic
>FUCKING CENSORSHIP
Reminder that taking into account the voice of the potential market, aka listening to your customers is now seen as bad by a massive amount of this website.
Inb4 "but they don't play games" because the multibillion dollar industry that puts massive amount into market research and trends know less than random anon who circlejerk with his faggot friends on a Cantonese photoshop forum.
>>321695376
You are welcome to dislike things as much as you like.
However.
You were asked very plainly and politely how little girl cartoons were harmful and you were unable to present how or why.
>>321695030
No, I'm pretty sure loli is either fully legal or fully illegal depending on the state.
I'm talking about the US, by the way. In non-retarded countries, the government doesn't give a shit about drawings on a computer screen.
>>321695040
>missing the point
You make a better analogy if you're so awesome, faggot.
>>321695427
Are you paid by hour or is it a paid-per-post deal?
>>321695427
You are conflating any and all change with what people are very plainly pointing to as censorship:
Censorship has a very plain definition.
And that's changes made to art and similar media brought about by offense or perceived offense.
The key here is offense.
If you are changing something and the reason isn't "because offended," you can't call censorship.
And no one is, except for the cases where it is offense.
>>321695463
>implying sheep can form their own opinions
The TV and my burgers said it was bad, therefore it is!
>>321695520
>No, I'm pretty sure loli is either fully legal or fully illegal depending on the state.
You would be wrong. There are laws regarding how it is distributed and brought across state lines and importation laws, but in all the states of the union possession is not illegal.
>>321695712
Argument ad lapidem is a fallacy when used in the void of all other arguments.
You do not have any other supporting arguments for your position.
That which is stated with no evidence can be dismissed with no evidence.
I dismiss your claim.
>>321695712
>he still can't give a clear answer
Come on, anon. Are you telling us the only reason you hate it is because other people told you to? Because that'd imply you're just a sheep, and that would be funny.
I dont and still dont care about it because Im Australian
We mostly get the uncensored stuff since R ratad games came out, only downside was L4D2 I remember
>>321695782
Well, I'm not really an expert on US law, so I'll concede the argument.
>>321695945
It wouldn't make him a sheep.
It would make him a fool.
You don't believe everything you are told by anyone without any good reason or evidence do you?
You would be silly to do so.
>>321695427
Please, go check a dictionary and see the actual meaning of censorship. Censorship fags are retarded, but people like you are not helping either.
>>321696098
It's a bit of a moot point either, isn't it?
If the law in the US says it's illegal, does that mean it's immoral everywhere, including in nations where it is not illegal?
>>321688317
>the Diamond Dogs are here with me.
you mean youself?
>>321686410
this board has so many different definitions of censorship, /v/ will never agree. for example, you could make a character wear a flower in their hair in a game's announcement trailer when it has nothing important to do with the game. By the time the game releases, its revealed the flower was cut out, and /v/ will still cry censorship.
>>321696482
We should use something more universal for the definition.
Like.
The dictionary.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/censorship
>the system or practice of examining writings or movies and taking out things considered offensive or immoral
>>321696208
That's a whole other can of worms entirely. But if you want my opinion, then no, I don't feel that anything that's illegal is necessarily also immoral.
>>321696006
please stay in your shithole country, thanks.
>>321696681
Does that definition specify if only certain parties can commit censorship?
>>321686410
It's a meme
>>321696748
Do, because that's not the definition of the word censorship. Only Ameritards say shit like "only the government can censor". This is obviously false to anyone who has read the dictionary or any history involving censorship at all.
https://www.aclu.org/what-censorship
>>321686410
Its /v/s latest thing.
Like ethics in 2014.
Or DRM in 2013.
Or no localisation in 2012.
I wonder what 2016 holds for us
>>321696748
>>321696885
It does not.
The dictionary does not say that only certain parties are censoring, specifically, just the government.
I have mixed feelings about censorship. On one hand, I don't care if it's a game that I don't care about, and I hate seeing it get spammed on /v/ constantly, taking up valuable space for real video game discussion.
Example: That "Fatal Frame" game? I only know the title of that game because people complained about its censorship. Most people, including many of the complainers, probably weren't going to buy the game anyway, so it's sort of silly to whine about something that doesn't actually affect you.
On the other hand, if something like SFV gets censored, even though I'm not into fighting games too much, I still don't like it. I don't like how feminists influenced the game, and I can see how that would be damaging to other games. I think people need to pick which bits of censorship are actually significant and not just spam every single incidence of censorship everywhere forever; that just makes people not care about your cause. Just like how gamergate had to get banned from /v/ because you guys wouldn't shut the fuck up about it for 2 seconds.
If it's some game nobody cares about, then who cares? Don't spam it everywhere or it will make people care even less, or worse, it will cause people to join the opposite side. I'd rather talk about which Zelda game is the best, or what my Smash 4 main is, than have to see, "Wah, some game you don't care about got censored! You have to care about it!!! YOU HAVE TO!" all the time. But if something actually gets censored in a significant way and it could affect other games, games that actually matter, then that's bad and it needs to be brought to our attention.
>>321686410
>2015
>Not fapping to videogames
>>321696912
>I wonder what 2016 holds for us
Considering the popularity of undertale on /v/, I'm guessing "under-representation of females/transgenders/homosexuals/minority races/pansexuals/furries/ in video games"
>>321696734
Did I say I wanted to move to whatever stain on human civilization that you come from?
>>321697016
Voltaire once said:
"All men are guilty of the good they do not do."
Just came to mind.
>>321697291
Considering all the Australians I've worked with coming over for that year or free work visa...
The Kiwi's I've worked with are cooler than you fucks too.
>>321696912
>Like ethics in 2014.
oh yeah, whatever happened to ethical gaming journalism
>>321697452
That's no way to treat a commonwealth brother you cunt.
>>321696683
>But if you want my opinion, then no, I don't feel that anything that's illegal is necessarily also immoral.
Good, because that argument is typically one that is fallacious on its own without something a bit more substantial.
Something can be both, or it can be just one. The two aren't always related.
>>321697318
So I have to care about it. I just have to. There's no other option.
I already won't buy the game, if it's a game I don't care about, so what am I supposed to do to fight censorship other than that? It's not even really a lost sale though, because I wasn't going to buy it anyway.
>>321697473
Kind lost traction.
Like localisation campaigns. Or the battle against intrusive drm.
>>321697719
>So I have to care about it. I just have to. There's no other option.
I didn't say that anon.
I just gave you some food for thought. I like Voltaire but I'm not going to force my ideals on you.
>>321686410
Because there wasn't censorship and now there is.
>>321697265
Nah that's like a constant background noise. It will always be there as bait fuel.
But once a year, a combination of bait and rallying the troops happens, and /v/ will get behind a shitty cause.
I don't care, personally. Its just hilarious that /v/ as a group gets played every year by clickbait and it keeps happening. Hell, Niche Gamer (the be all end all champion of /v/) has been playing the censorship thing for clicks since it became a hot button topic, and no one's saying anything.
>>321686410
Because people didn't know about it. There's no changing the past, but now that they know they can decide if they approve it or not.
>>321697016
you are the worst kind of ignorant
I'm not saying you should protest on every article of the subject, but don't be so damn picky
It's generally a bad thing, it's completely unnecessary to do and only ruins it for those who actually like what it was before censorship
This isn't up for debate, it's absolutely stupid to censor sex appeal
When content is cut due to licensing rights (see Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen PC release), it's still a kick in the balls but at least it wasn't voluntarily removed because of possible complaints
I won't be replying to any replies because I'm going to bed so please just consider all the value that is lost due to censorship
There are age ratings for a reason, absolutely fuck the demographic appeal to anything that isn't the core demographic for the product
>>321697848
How new are you? Localisers have been playing fast and loose with this shit for years.
Research it you imbecile.
censorship is stupid and its apologists are pieces of shit but in the end i can't be arsed to care or do anything about it because i'm dead inside and spend my days posting on this vapid forum
god when will all end
>>321698315
just ask hiro to delete /v/
>>321691389
Yeah isn't it great that game devs are changing their product to suit the needs of people who were never gonna play them in the first place.
>>321698230
>at least it wasn't voluntarily removed
:/
>>321697016
Some people do care about games you don't care about. There are a lot of games and topics that are discussed on /v/ that I personally don't care about. I just ignore them. It would be a waste of time for me and everyone else to go into a Smash Bros thread to tell people that discussing who your main is has been done too much and that smash isn't even a real fighting game.
>>321698415
It is, actually.
>>321697016
>it will make people care even less, or worse, it will cause people to join the opposite side.
maybe /v/ should stop being contrary little shits then. we have 11 pages of threads. is it really that hard to hide one or two threads about something you don't care about? instead people feel compelled to shitpost in the threads about "waah why can't you guys shut up stop taking up space for smash thread #999879889."
>>321686410
>suddenly
How new to this Earth are you?
>>321697473
There was never any hope because it started on /v/.
>I'm not allowed to enjoy the occasional pantyshot or lewd scene anymore because some fat tumblrite and her beta male orbiters might get upset
>Can't complain because hurr durr look at porn faggot
>Can't really defend it either because I genuinely just want my pantyshots
At least I still have Senran Kagura
>>321686410
Has anything else than underage underwear been "censored" so far?
>/v/ is against censorship
>Only when it's about titties
>Not when it's about violence
It's like poetry, every stanza kinda rhymes with the last one.
>>321698230
>When content is cut due to licensing rights (see Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen PC release)
wait what was cut? I was going to buy that game. is it something that could be restored by a fan patch?
>>321686410
it's all mchan's fault
There was no freedom of speech online until they came up a year ago, and now the internet is changing
>>321698732
>>I'm not allowed to enjoy the occasional pantyshot or lewd scene anymore because some fat tumblrite and her beta male orbiters might get upset
And?
>>Can't complain because hurr durr look at porn faggot
Hey man, you chose fanservice to get upset about
>>Can't really defend it either because I genuinely just want my pantyshots
Then why not say that? One reason why people don't take the 'anti-censorship' group seriously is because you beat around the bush with what you actually want.
>>321696681
The thing is, under this definition, censorship is not inherently bad, and it should definitely be possible for people to self-censor. That's the thing, /v/ wants to depend on the image of censorship of forcing people into silence and stifling the free expression of others, but whenever that shit isn't going on and /v/ still feels like complaining, people trot out definitions like this and go "well technically..." Yeah sure, let's call it censorship, but so what, then?
>>321698965
>frontpage is 100% /cunny/ pics
that's gonna trigger some 4channers
>>321698784
butt slap for a finishing move
lingerie costumes
boob slider
>>321699085
I always assume posts like this are bait
I don't know what people are complaining about. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
>>321699085
I'm just talking out loud about how I feel, anon.
I do defend my enjoyment of shit like Senran and Neptune by telling people to fuck off and let me have my panties, but you and I both know very well that's not something I can shout at people outside of my circles.
And for the record I think anybody who says hurr durr go look at porn if you want fanservice should be dragged outside and beaten to death.
>>321698784
>I am all for freedom of speech, BUT....
>>321697016
>taking up valuable space for real video game discussion.
>>321699098
Censorship is inherently bad and has no positive applications
>>321698965
Fuck off with your child porn faggot
why do some censorship threads get deleted?
>>321699209
There are zero cunnies there, you lying shit.
>>321700126
because it's GG shitposting, and there's already cripplechan and reddit for that
>>321694460
Britfag here. The amount of Americans that come to the UK and talk the most uneducated, misinformed shit with utmost conviction is staggering. You hit the nail on the head. They're so confident in their wrong opinions that if you're not wise to the subject matter you might fall for it.
>>321699842
If censorship is examining writings or movies and taking out things considered offensive or immoral, then self-censorship is a good thing. That's also freedom of speech. You can't force people to be offensive against their will.
>>321697318
What is good?
>>321699209
>mfw when taking a look and seeing what I assume is child porn
Yeah nah not falling for that brah
>>321700629
No, that is negative
>>321686410
People have cared about censorship for decades.
>>321698965
>50 users
The market dictates all. /pol/ knows that, you're an imposter.
>>321700767
Suppose you're an author, and you run a first draft past your publisher. Your publisher points out that something you said could be considered racist. You don't want to be considered racist, so you thank him for pointing it out and alter the passage.
But then your publisher publishes your first draft anyway because he visits /v/ and is staunchly anti-censorship.
You see how this "anti-censorship" stance is actually taking power away from people to determine what they wish to communicate?
>>321698965
https://masterchan.org/Suicide
Please go.
>>321700973
Online counter shows 600 people online right now.
Freedom attracts people. 4chan is just boring now, after mod takeover
>>321700126
Because generals don't belong on /v/
>>321691782
>ass slapping taunt is the same as slavery
Straw men are everywhere.
>>321698797
Thanks for letting me know this never happened.
>>321701772
Great, another autist that's missing the point. Why are there so many roaming around today?
>>321693680
The only ass you are kicking is your own.
I have been pissed about censorship since the 80s.
The problem is that it was impossible to voice it out until the mid 90s.
Also, it felt like loyal ports were going to become the norm sometime after early 2000s too. So when gaming is starting to slide back, of course people are angry about it.
That being said, stuff like Nintendo DS was a festering with excessive censorship too. Nintendo got away with that shit for decades and people are finally fed up.
>>321701089
it's more like someone writes a story with racism, and then his editor changes the story without asking and the writer can't even tell the public that it happened because of contractual obligations.
>>321703412
No, not according to the dictionary definition.
>>321693069
>It's not censorship you fucking idiots, its localization.
>They need to change things that could be seen as offensive here.
That's exactly what censorship is you stupid fucking faggot. You're arguing against the textbook definition of the term just so you can be contraian on /v/
>>321692334
nice copypasta,
undesirables have their pride, we like "filth", things were worse in 1955, not by that much i guess.
>>321686410
Because i dont want you jacking off to my kids, you fucking retards
>>321701089
>Your publisher points out that something you said could be considered racist. You don't want to be considered racist
Then why would you say something racist to begin with?
Notice how the person doesn't actually consider it racist on his own. The editor needs to point it out to him. Most proffessionals don't want to be considered racist, even if they actually are because of the threat that it poses to their building if not their entire livelihood, pic related
Really this pro-censorship stance is actually taking power away from people to determine what is accpetable to communicate, using political correctness and -isms as a means of suppression.
>>321703952
Actually the dictionary definition applies here.
>practice of examining writings or movies and taking out things considered offensive or immoral
>>321686410
look up yohjo simulator, fags complained like arseholes and now it's been pulled from steam. not that it matters much given ba torrent seemed to be 64 bit only so it won't work anyway.
>>321703952
how is it not?
>the system or practice of examining writings or movies and taking out things considered offensive or immoral
>>321705373
your kids are video game characters?>>321705373
>>321701961
You don't seem to actually have one. So far all you've done is sperg out and call people autists.
>>321705429
>Notice how the person doesn't actually consider it racist on his own. The editor needs to point it out to him.
Sometimes you are not fully aware of how your words will be received. Luckily, in the real world, we can take things back and explain we didn't mean it like that, instead of being forced to stand by them forever.
>Actually the dictionary definition applies here.
It applies just as much to the scenario I describe, so it's definitely not "more like" that. My whole point was that that definition covers more than just forcing changes on people.
If censorship covers voluntary retractions then there is nothing inherently wrong with it. You can't just point at something that was changed and go "it's censorship, so it's bad." It's coercion that's bad. That's what it should be about.
>>321701961
what is your point
>>321699838
identify semen demon
>>321695427
>Reminder that taking into account the voice of the potential market, aka listening to your customers is now seen as bad by a massive amount of this website.
>POTENTIAL market
>customers
Reminder that taking into account the voice of the actual market, aka your actual customers who actually play your games and supported you over the years is seen now seen as bad because widening your audience is more important according to a massive amount of this website.
Because "market research" and "trends" should trump the opinions of people who actually play these games, fuck them right? Appeal to the authority of a multibillion industry that is clearly infaliable and anyone who dares question them is just an entitled random who circlejerks with his faggot friends on the Internet.
Not that it matters, I'm just going to pirate my games from now on while you worthless chucklefucks bitch about muh lost sales and muh digital theft killing muh industry.
>>321698965
/a/ seems sane enough at least there.
>>321707071
He is from black lagoon
>>321705974
>Sometimes you are not fully aware of how your words will be received. Luckily, in the real world, we can take things back and explain we didn't mean it like that, instead of being forced to stand by them forever.
Or better yet have an authority of culture puritarians telling creators what is offensive and politically incorrect so we can have removed from games.
I like how you didn't address the rest of my post. And how you boil down self censorship to "something was changed" and voluntarily retractions without context. Almost as if you're being the intentionally obtuse for the sake of argument.
>>321686410
It's just marketers taking advantage of twitter drama to promote their garbage. Just look at Hatred this board was filled with shills for that game then two days after it came out everyone suddenly stopped talking about it.
>>321700414
>>321694460
Say that to my gun not online and see what happens.
