About to play Oblivion for the first time. What should i expect?
>>321644649
Fun
Weird, fucked up animations and graphics. Stupid plot. Scaled enemies. Horrid voice acting.
But some better quests than Skyrim (which isn't saying much).
>>321644649
Yes oh god yes.
Uncanny valley: the game.
Also level scaling sucks.
>>321644817
>Horrid voice acting.
More like comfy voice acting
Blow away windbag
Pure comfy: the game
>>321644817
You hate quest lines? Do you hate me?
>>321644649
It's fun, a bit outdated, mods may fix it though
Better quests than Skyrim, for sure
Endless shitty busywork.
The first time I ever played oblivion, I couldn't get past the first ever rats you encounter, didn't even know you can change the difficulty.
>>321644649
Near the city of Chorrol
And never contact me in public!
>>321644649
I'm jelly op I wish I could replay oblivion for the first time again.
>>321645010
Maher nigga
>>321644649
Play some SKYRIM u fag
slow gameplay and dated visuals
>>321644649
Memes
>>321644649
Potato salad.
>went in first portal
>got wrecked completely
>never played again
>>321644891
>defending the voice acting
>comfy voice acting
What the fuck, what does comfy voice acting even mean?
dude well met lmao
>>321644649
Bandits in glass armor.
I would play the shit out of it if the level scaling wasn't so fucking horrible. Morrowind and Skyrim sort of did it right. The game looks comfy as hell too, but it's just bullshit when some levels later you start seeing bandits running around in daedric gear, and mudcrabs/wolves still posing you challenge.
>>321644891
>le add comfy to everything maymay
>>321646552
They made a mod probably before you were born that fixed the shitty level scaling
>>321646552
You could try getting something called a 'mod'. That's short for 'modification', these are files that can change gameplay aspects that you do not like.
Get ooo + mmm + no psychic guards for the best elder Scrolls experience. Ignore the morrowfags.
>>321646775
>>321646854
Haven't found one to my liking. Are there any, that change just this one aspect instead of changing a whole fuckton of other things in the game?
>>321648214
>MMM
>Elder Scrolls experience
>>321646552
>having trouble
level more efficiently nignog
>>321644890
Never level up, ever, and you will be a god.
>>321646609
>>321646226
>Doesn't lay in his comfy bed, with the radiator on at comfy degrees, wearing his comfy pj's whilst playing his comfy vidya and listening to the comfy voice acting.
>>321644649
>Install mods
>Start game
>''Whoa man, this looks amazing, even better than Skyrim''
>Then 1 hour later
>''What the hell, do I have to enter all these houses and shops to fetch quests or learn anything?''
>''Jesus, the combat is terrible''
Then you'll uninstall and try again a year later just so it happens again
>>321644649
Oblivion is highly overrated. That's all I'm going to say.
It's just, plain boring, at best. Repetitive as fuck at worst, people complained about killing dragons in skyrim? Try having to go through oblivion gates OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND O V E R again in order to progress through the story and world.
I have this shit with 100+ mods RIGHT NOW on my desktop, still boring as hell. Better than Skyrim? Just lol. Doesn't even touch it.Morrowind is the best TES by far, Oblivion is the worst. Probably as bad as redguard.
IT'S SO FUCKING BORING.
>>321650190
>comfy voice acting
You still have to explain this.
>>321644649
Go to tesgeneral.com for essential mods to fix things like the potato faces and level scaling. Then you'll have the best TES game.
>>321650401
>story in Skyrim: shit
>story in Oblivion: shit
>side quests in Skyrim: Shit/non existent
>side quests in Oblivion: Great
Played hundreds of hours, never touched the main story. Do not see the problem.
>>321644649
Fun. Great quests. Generic fantasy world that is, dare I say itcomfy. Also you aren't the chosen one (as long as you don't look too much into the lore), you're his sidekick and I absolutely love that.
>>321644891
It is pretty comfy now but that might just be nostalgia. I remember playing it back in the day and wishing for more voice actors.
>>321650480
It's really well done and the random conversations sound natural.
It's like actually walking through a city and hearing people meet and speak.
>>321650624
Oblivion story is really comfy though
>>321650746
This. All of Oblivion's quests are pretty amazing.
Some of the best side-quests in the Elder Scrolls series
>>321650963
You mean THE best.
>>321650924
>the random conversations sound natural.
Hello!
Well met!
I saw a mud crab the other day!
I've heard others say the same...
Goodbye!
Bye!
Anon, Oblivion is in my top ten games for sure but its "natural sounding conversations" is not one of its merits.
Elder scrolls. Play how you wanna play. Have fun. You don't need to touch the main question if you don't want and the side quests are super fun. I liked this game.
>>321651019
Possibly. Morrowind had some memoriable quests as well, but that game is harder to get into.
>>321651094
Not that guy but I agree. It's not exactly high quality but the random NPC conversations are fucking hilarious either way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lMiu4j9xvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KU5fXUx4N4
>>321650624
Stop bullshitting, it's the same argument oblifags bring. The side quests in oblivion were terrible, the guild were under developed, and the characters had horrible voice acting and terrible lines of dialogue, making it impossible to immerse yourself within the world, and the godamn waste land that it is, How can a game so colourful look so dead (more so than skyrim) is beyond me. + the combat sucked dick and the leveling system sis errible to not say broken. People that say it's bette rthan skyrim's are just crazy or fanboys. It's a mediocre game trough and through. That's why most people give up on it after a couple of hours.
Peopel always bring subjective opinion when debating objective parts of the game.
The story in Skyrim is leagues better than oblivion, it was better written too, it was just played out in a terrible way, like all bethesda games. The conflict between the stormcloacks and the empire, mixed with the pigs that are the altmer is much much better than "oh the oblivion gates, lets all suck each other's cocks and stop the and of the world". Civil war story lines are always better than apocalypse type of scenarios IMO.
>>321651395
Here's your reply.
>>321651395
>The side quests in oblivion were terrible, the guild were under developed
what is the theives guild
what is the dark brotherhood
what is the fighters guild
ok, mages guild was pretty lame I will admit
>>321651395
Did your dad ever take you finishing anon? Because you forgot to put bait on the hook
>>321651536
The mage's guild was fucking great though. You actually had to learn some forms of magic and had to get recommendations from each city to even access the University unlike in Skyrim where you could become Arch-mage without even knowing a single spell.
There's also a mod called Guild Advancement that adds even further skill requirements for the Fighter/Mage guilds as well, look into that if you're interested.
>>321651578
Did you pull your fanboy glasses out of your ass? Because I think not, anon. I'm not even going to debate people on this for long, because I'm currently modding skyrim, after doing the same with oblivion, I just want people to rage as little kids because someone shattered their illusions.
Also, never fished :( Never will probably.
>>321651395
>the characters had horrible voice acting
Not horrible. Just not enough diversity. Nords/Orcs sharing a voice actor was shit. Khajiits/Argonians sharing a voice actor was shit.
Dunmer/Altmer/Bosmer all sharing a voice actor was completely fucking terrible.
>and terrible lines of dialogue
It's on par with any other generic fantasy writing. Not bad, not good.
There's a MOD that turns off the main quest, no oblivion gates etc, and let's you start off in different situations like being homeless, just off a boat, home owner etc.
You can just do as you want without having to be a hero.
>>321651708
I think you can get through the entire mages guild without ever casting a spell though, the only part where you might need to they give you scrolls that you can use instead.
>>321651921
You may be right if you know what you're doing, but either way at least all the Recommendation quests you need are mostly magic-based.
Like I said that Guild Advancement mod actually requires you to be apprentice-rank in something like at least 5 magic skills to even enter the university, and you need to be an expert-rank in at least 1 iirc to become arch-mage.
>>321651708
Now that I think back, it actually was pretty good. Like that one mission where you help the old argonian find her missing pendant. And the university was really comfy.
I just didnt like the way it ended. That memory clouds all the others.
>>321650924
>the random conversations sound natural
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lMiu4j9xvQ
>the story was comfy
Here we go again, the word comfy has completely lost its meaning because idiots like you misuse it.
>>321651395
>Peopel always bring subjective opinion when debating objective parts of the game
>Civil war story lines are always better than apocalypse type of scenarios IMO.
>>321651845
>It's on par with any other generic fantasy writing. Not bad, not good.
You literally couldn't differentiate between the races if you didn't look at them or if they were''t saying something specific. They had no character. Skyrim did this much better. I knew I was talking with an elf, because of their speech patterns, and orc because of their aggressiveness and alpha traits (which is why the orcs are such fierce warriors), a nord because of how thick headed and confident they were, Khajit were sleazy fucks, and you know your couldn't trust the etc etc. People overshadow small details in NPC complexity to say Skyrim is a terrible game in every single department, it isn't. Why am I comparing it to skyrim? Because if I compared it to morowind, people would laugh at me.
I don't even think it's as good as people make it out to be, like I said before, Morriwind is the best TES, but oblivion is not the second best, at all. But Opinions are opinions anon :)
>Not horrible. Just not enough diversity. Nords/Orcs sharing a voice actor was shit. Khajiits/Argonians sharing a voice actor was shit.
Dunmer/Altmer/Bosmer all sharing a voice actor was completely fucking terrible.
Agree, Skyrim also had this problem, bethesda really likes to cut corners on the most primary element of their games.
>>321651395
>"The side quests in oblivion were terrible.. making it impossible to immerse yourself within the world"
I disagree
> the combat sucked dick
I agree that it was inferior but not enough for it to be bad. Pruning in Skyrim ruins any fun to be had in combat however.
>leveling system sis errible to not say broken
It is terrible. I still preferred having shit like athletics and acrobatics simply because I could jump into enemy forts (which made up a large portion of the game) easily. I could still easily manipulate the leveling system however so if you're going to bring up people not being able to use it properly, I'm not a retard so that was not an issue. That isn't saying it wasn't an awful system, just that feigning stupidity isn't a very valid argument.
>"oh the oblivion gates, lets all suck each other's cocks and stop the and of the world"
What are you talking about? The Oblivion crisis is what shattered the Empire. All the Imperials fortified Cyrodiil and left Morrowind to die. Argonia and Valenwood were basically the only ones doing well against the Daedra. As for what was occurring in the game itself, I'm not sure how you can excuse the shit that was the civil war because of "muh potential" and disregard a Daedric invasion, they both played out like shit and had infinite potential
I can play Oblivion because I can enjoy the side quests, npc interaction (with the player), and the potential to get better gear in dungeons as opposed to crafting it. As for leveling, I understand how it works so I have little issue utilizing it, and both magic and skills are more varied in comparison to Skyrim. Oblivion is greatly flawed, but if you want to talk boring, I don't know how you can defend Skyrim. Less abilities, less magic, shitty side quests and "radiant" quests, and no impact on the world whatsoever. Disposition and fame wasn't amazing, but it impacted a lot of interaction, Skyrim had no such feature.
>>321651708
That part with the enchanted ring was pretty good. You know something wrong was going on with the guild.
Only bother with the dark brotherhood, most quests are average (but thankfully interesting compared to skyrim) All the characters are batshit insane except for martin and the emperor
>>321650401
>Try having to go through oblivion gates OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND O V E R again in order to progress through the story and world.
>there's only about 2 gates that are mandatory
Ignore this lying faggot
>>321652842
>when you find out that the captain of the legion was the one who ordered the hit on old Rufio.
Bethesda knew how to make breaking into houses fun back then.
>>321652506
I was referring to other things such as combat and character development. That's why I didn't focus o the story and added "IMO".
I can't say Skyrim story is better and end of, can I? That would be absurd, specially since I do prefer some things on oblivion's story, specially the pacing.
Honest question, what game's introduction do you prefer/think was better done. I think Skyrim's was way better developed, but hey, opinions.
>>321653142
Holy shit really?
>play Oblivion for the first time
>everyone told me it looks like shit
>have a decent system
>max out everything
>4K resolution
>force ambient occlusion and anisotropic filtering through graphics card
>looks fucking beautiful
Apart form a few dodgy textures and shitty LOD distance on the overworld this shit holds up pretty well against modern games
>>321652842
I lol'd when the faggot died, Poor Bellamont. All the characters were really interesting.
>ctrl f comfy
>18 results
>>321653142
Don't remember this
>>321653535
Are you even using any graphical mods there aside from DarNui?
Go to tesgeneral.com and get the good shit senpai, you seem like you have a good system for the distant land/object mod.
>>321653535
You can easily set stuff like lod, view distances etc in the ini file. Wayyyyy more control than in the options menu.
>>321644649
Mods
>>321653535
It was godly for it's time, nothing else like it except for maybe Crysis.
Today it does have a bit too much bloom, and the character's faces look silly, but it still competes with modern graphics imo.
I've had the most fun with oblivion. even vanilla is playable, but the level scaling is annoying.
side quests are better than in skyrim, and guild questlines are way better than in skyrim.
>>321646226
I would imagine its someone that has a voice like howard stern, which no one in oblivion has, so fuck if I know.
>>321650190
Die in a comfy fire.
>>321653950
Basically this
>>321653214
>Honest question, what game's introduction do you prefer/think was better done. I think Skyrim's was way better developed, but hey, opinions.
Not him, but I think Skyrim's is really only on the first playthrough. It becomes really obnoxious in subsequent playthroughs.
>>321653706
Nope no other mods apart from Character Overhaul for the faces, everything is vanilla. I'll check out those others though thanks for the tip.
horrible AI, imperial guards can sense your criminal scum 89.8 miles away
>>321653214
Maybe I'm weird and I'm not using this to argue your preference just to ramble, but I'm not very fond of action-y, scripted parts of video games. I very much enjoy the game letting me fill in the blanks with what I'm doing and because of that, I do actually prefer crawling through the sewers. Obviously, the interactions with Uriel all play out without your input, but being left on your own to make your way through the sewers was very fun for me (again, I doubt anyone shares this feeling).
Having to wait to be executed and then run around with all the other actors when the dragon attacks is just boring. Having that fuck head guide me around the starting dungeon is annoying, just let me go through on my own. I absolutely despise having npcs follow me around while dungeon crawling, when the player is left to decide what the situation is, I find that much more liberating then the writers trying to force "oh man you're running from a dragon, and now your new best friend is helping you on your way out".
I think what it boils down to is how much is left to the player. The sewers isn't a great intro, but Helgen feels like a shitty movie more than a video game.
>>321654032
Every single issue people have had with Oblivion over the years can be fixed by mods today. That pretty much makes it the best TES game in my opinion, you can't fix things like Skyrim's horrendous quests and writing on the other hand.
>>321649195
yes you fucking mongoloid kill yourself
>>321653991
>I think Skyrim's is really only on the first playthrough
Really only good, is what I meant to say.
>>321653880
Yeah I played around with the ini file a little, I increased the trees distance so they spawn all around on the mountains.
>>321654032
Literally one of the first mods fixed this.
They just had an insane hearing distance, a 20kb MOD fixed it by making the distance realistic.
>>321654285
holy cow that is nice
What mods to be a smarmy pyromancer and have fun
>>321651904
>tamriel
>planet
someone doesn't know their lore
>>321654285
oblivion looks so colorful, unlike skyrim
>>321654285
i feel like mods are the only thing making bethesda games good
>>321644649
Better than Skyrim, WAY better than Morrowshit. Oblivion also has the best scenery and all around setting of any Elder Scrolls game, save maybe Online. Not as frozen and depressing as Skyrim, and...well...there really is nothing good that can be said about Morrowind's shitty setting.
>>321654362
The Imperial City is such a beautiful sight. The RAEVWD mod lets you see it from basically anywhere in the province too.
>>321654460
Someone doesn't know jokes
>>321654460
Anon I have a feeling that that image is a joke
>>321652816
>I disagree
You what faggit, you dared disagree with my personal opinion, let's fite!
>I agree that it was inferior but not enough for it to be bad. Pruning in Skyrim ruins any fun to be had in combat however.
Eh, I partially agree, there's obviously things I dislike when it came to skyrim's combat, being that you could literally just spawn attacks was one of them. Having the enemies level along side with you (with the CONVENIENT exception that when you were underleveled) completely destroyed my sense of power. I never felt like I was a powerful legendary warrior. Like, having a hard time with a fucking guy with ebony warrior after turning skyrim upside down?
>I still preferred having shit like athletics and acrobatics simply because I could jump into enemy forts (which made up a large portion of the game) easily. I could still easily manipulate the leveling system however so if you're going to bring up people not being able to use it properly, I'm not a retard so that was not an issue. That isn't saying it wasn't an awful system, just that feigning stupidity isn't a very valid argument.
My argument isn't that you could circumvent the levelling system's problems, that to overage players, that is all they would be able to do, "go along" with ow broken it was. I would even question how can bethesda release it like that, but I would have to stop at "bethesda"
>What are you talking about? The Oblivion crisis is what shattered the Empire. All the Imperials fortified Cyrodiil and left Morrowind to die. Argonia and Valenwood were basically the only ones doing well against the Daedra. As for what was occurring in the game itself, I'm not sure how you can excuse the shit that was the civil war because of "muh potential" and disregard a Daedric invasion, they both played out like shit and had infinite potential
I was being specific of the races within Cyrodil, not trhought the world. Which when compared to Skyrim, no one liked each other, basically.
>>321653634
>>321653445
Sorry, got my guilds mixed up.
The guy in the imperial prison that isn't the dark elf is the one who got the dark brotherhood to kill rufio, you can find his house with a notice on it saying it's been confiscated and I think the ritual circle is still up in the basement.
>>321653937
Yeah not a fan of bloom generally but enabling HDR instead works quite well. Can't use AA with it though but at 4K it doesn't really matter and you can probably force it through the graphics card anyway.
>>321653108
And trust the guy who calls other's faggots because he got his fifies hurt? LOL!
>>321651904
you can just skip the main quest in vanilla too, so there aren't any oblivion gates spawning anywhere.
also, the intro doesn't paint you as the chosen one unlike skyrim.
>>321651395
Too mad to proof read chum?
>>321654421
>What mods to...have fun
the uninstall mod
>>321654554
It really is beautiful with just a few mods. Skyrim is generic in comparison. I installed a starry sky mod and after playing hundreds of video games, none come close when it comes to atmosphere.
>>321654923
and then I should load up Skyrim right after right? fuck off
>>321653991
I have to agree, I mainly play skyrim for the fuckloads of mods, and lore, which I think it's pretty good. I also like the combat, despite being minimalist and nothing but button mashing. Still, The main story is eh, good in terms of potential, but not that greatly executed.
>>321655015
Yes, that's the only reasonable thing to do.
Except for killing yourself.
>>321655005
the problem with skyrim is that it's so grey and depressing everywhere.
luckily there's the fxaa injector which adds some color though.
>>321655205
You can't fix the npc's though. Name one npc in skyrim who comes close to lucien lachance or fucking glarthir for that matter.
Depends on what you expect. Oblivion is a slightly less causal RPG compared to Skyrim. The leveling system is shit but you don't have to level up at all or all at once.
Oblivion also has a great weapon enchanting allowing you put on a bunch of effects unlike Skyrim which only allowed one until a certain point.
Magic is much better and even includes the option to make your spells n shit.also get the Knights of the Nine and the Shivering for the best DLC in history.
>>321644649
sameface
sameface everywhere
>>321654285
the windmill mod and the aqueduct and fountain one really make me wonder why did no one during development even considered it.
it's goddamn insane how incomplete everything looks when you think it would take for then to be real settlements, IC lacks shit like merchant carts entering and leaving all day, truly crowded streets, hundreds of houses for common people like Roman insulas or apartments instead of a couple dozen high level mansions in broad streets, stores that sold shit like furniture and many more general shops, the aforementioned water sources, etc. The rest of the towns are also barren as fuck, there's no sense of life going on. Houses don't even have toilets. There are never a large number of ships sailing lake Rumare. The roads have so little traffic bandits would have to resort to cannibalism to still exist.
no farm animals, no workshops and smith making the clutter, weapons, silverware, jewelry and so on, no bakeries and kitchens to make the food items, no labs to mix the potions, no scriptoriums to write the scrolls, it felt like there was nothing in the world except what was strictly necessary to do the quest. This sure as fuck is not a functioning country much less the capital of an empire.
Can I play Morrowind with a 360 controller?
>>321644649
A pretty good game but it gets boring on successive playthroughs. Better off just doing every quest line with one character. Which is a thing you can do since they removed Morrowinds skill requirements.
>>321655450
Cicero is pretty close to glarthir. Besides you are completely right there is little to no characterization in Skyrim.I like the dark elf from the fighters guild who at first looks down on you but gains respect as you fight along aside him
>>321655941
He was great. When the two of you both get kicked out the Fighter's Guild for going and doing some shady shit behind the Master's back and decide to stick together to take down Blackwood, it was so cash. His failed artist career after being kicked out was great too.
>>321655752
While I certainly agree with you, I think there should be a understanding of time, resources, and other limitations that the developers worked around.
Not trying to defend anything that Oblivion has done wrong in this regard, but even today I don't think we are at the point in time to really get a fulfilling world that you (and I) want from these games without third party support.
>>321655787
It's a bitch and a fucking half, but yeah.
>>321656239
The painting was the icing on the cake. You don't get that shit in games today, damn shame.
>>321656239
>that Painting
I still keep the ring that the blackwood agent used as a trophy.
Oblivion's main problem is its level scaling. That can be fixed by actually playing correctly and having the most efficient level ups, a mod, or simply turning the difficulty slider down a couple of notches.
It really is that simple.
>>321655805
i said in development faggot, i mentioned mods on the same damn post. Everything Bethesda does not do is something a modder will have to wrench into their shitty engine and making setting up a game harder and more demanding.
none of them add what's missing though. To make IC truly believable you would have to add an entire ring to the wheel of the city full of slum-looking housing and street vendors, for example, instead of the retarded shacks in the waterfront that make no goddamn sense. The lake would have to have several dozen ships coming and going, and the lake should be visibly crowded from everywhere it's visible. The roads and Inns should be constantly crowded with resting caravans that transit all over the empire every few days.
Skingrad has less farms than my goddamn backyard. The entire patch of the map that goes from the town to the edge of Elsweyr should be rolling hills covered in vineyards and wheat fields. What the fuck does Bruma even subsists on?
>>321654156
Then link to it you fuckwit.
>>321656860
tesgeneral.com
>>321656823
ha ha, video games arent real life dude chill
>>321656823
>What the fuck does Bruma even subsists on?
Snowcones.
>>321656981
why not? i want more, not less
>>321656765
It really is overexaggerated. It's poorly designed sure, but to dismiss the entire game because of it?
There was a mod that gave becoming guild leader some weight to it, and balancing. To become arch mage for example you had to have a high enough int and had mastered at least 3 magic skills.
To become guild master for ther fighters guild you had to master light or heavy armor and either blade or blunt before you could accept the final quest of each guild line.
It also added some new items to each guild, I think the thieves guild got respawning loot in certain houses and you could recruit followers at guild halls.
That mod made the game really fun, even with just Vanilla I would recommend.
>>321657607
You mean Guild Advancement?
I love that mod. Such a hidden gem.
>>321657652
Yeah that was it. Makes me want to fire up for another play through.
>>321644649
A game with a solid core, great quests, and a ton of "what were they thinking?" design decisions.
You need to play it with mods. It's not really worth the effort otherwise anymore.
>>321646609
Reminder that this kind of ironic shitposting is the same that you will literally find in YouTube comments and on reddit because its use on here has been turned into a culture and you retards encouraged it. Kill yourself.
>>321650401
>just lol
Go back to reddit
>>321654717
>there's only about 2 gates that are mandatory
But good job ignoring that part of the post and typing like a redditor teenager. Kill yourself.
>>321650401
You know you can immediately disregard someone's opinion when they say Skyrim is good and that Oblivion is worse than Arena.
>>321644649
Just stop leveling after like 10 to 15 levels unless you plan on perfectly min/maxing your character. The quests are fun and it has the best DLC of the whole series.
