IV has better gameplay mechanics than V. V fucked off gameplay for spectacle and cinematic setpiece moments. IV has more enterable buildings, taller buildings, better physics, better pedestrian interactions, better gunplay, and better radio. The NPC health and object interaction (shooting guns and other items to the ground, picking up those items, no OHKO melee, how pedestrians act in response to the players actions, cops arresting NPCs, etc.) are great.
The downsides of IV are that the missions are slightly repetitive and that your buddies constantly ring you up, but both of those problems are solved in the DLC episodes.
https://youtu.be/-qUJc20yu28
https://youtu.be/-qUJc20yu28?t=17m8s
>>321644308
>IV is loved while V is hated
The Zelda Cycle is real
>>321644456
Nice nofacts, bitch nigga. Maybe come back when you have something to say.
>>321644308
4 will hold up better in the future
>>321644434
https://youtu.be/r25CklSGKWw
https://youtu.be/iTrhX9p_QNQ
>>321644520
Oh jeez, didn't mean to trigger you.
Both are shit btw
reminder that new york will always be superior,comfier over los angeles
>>321644671
Maybe if you stopped mindlessly spouting the same bullshit, you'd have something more to say than driveby shitposting.
>>321644991
But he's right though.
Both are great for different reasons.
IV has better on foot game play
V has better driving and more shit
I didn't care as much for either, especially V, due to feeling as though being more realistic and cinematic makes them more dull and less exciting than the PS2 gen games.
>>321644308
my favorite thing in IV and that V left out was that you didn't actually needed to kill people unless it was required.
Most of the time you could just incapacitate them, they would them stop being hostile and just writhe in pain on the ground for a while and then stand up and try to stumble away from you.
This was so good for roleplaying man. My Niko was a professional hitman though reluctant, so I only killed my targets, unless it was a personal mission. But usually I'd just shoot people on the arms and legs to disable them.
>>321644738
new york in games is sexy as fucki wouldn't say the same about real new york though...
>>321644308
GAMES FOR WINDOWS LIVE
Jesus, just bought the IV on steam sale and can't open my LIVE profile in the game.
Does multiplayer still alive?
>>321644308
We already have had this discussion IV is way better without mentioning how horrible gtao was handled at launch. Gtao is the only redeeming factor for V thou with the content but fuck the dumb grind now.
>>321645332
I went in May for 5 days and enjoyed it.
Lots of fun.
Most negative experience I had was that my girlfriend brought her little brothers, so we couldn't really do much until they went to bed and we could walk to a bar.
At one point, we were walking down broadway, and told them not to stop and let anyone talk to them. Turn around, and one of the kids has a gang of like, 6 fucking Sesame Street characters taking pictures with them, so I run up and grab him, and they're all trying to get like, 40 bucks from me. Told em all to get fucked for ganging up on a kid.
>>321645735
> 7 year old pc game
> alive
U wot mo8
>>321645176
>V has better driving
No.
Furthermore, just because a game had less than a spectacular reception on launch, that's no reason to post nothing in response to the literally dozens of arguments for better gameplay over V.
>>321646347
>preferring GTAIV's floaty fucking boat cars over GTAV's grounded and more precise cars
I feel like most people who play GTAIV and prefer the driving are PC players who load it up with mods, especially that one mod that fine-tunes the vehicles without most people realizing it, and don't actually remember what the raw, default vehicle handling was like.
>>321646347
Yup. Its more varied and fun. IV cars handle like boats and there's no modding and shit. Maybe it's more '''''''realistic''''''' but who cares lol
I like the soundtrack a lot more in V, especially vinewood boulevard and flylo fm, but i agree with you OP
>>321644308
They're both shit played by "TRUE GAMERS" that spend 50 dollars on energy drinks and candy with the word gamer on it.
>>321646921
Is this a joke? Gta is the most normie game of them all?
Fuck GTA
Where's my L.A. Noire 2?
>>321646347
>>321646508
>>321646573
Anyone who thinks IV's driving is more realistic has never driven a fucking car a single day in their lives.
I drove a huge Dodge work van for 2 years, and it never floated, bowed, and flopped across the road the way shit did in GTAIV.
>>321646508
>>321646573
>>321647349
>GTAV's grounded
Nope. Hitting a curb sends cars flying like they're cardboard.
>floaty fucking boat cars
Go get in your car and attempt to take a sharp turn at 90 mph.
>>321647461
What I meant by grounded was that making a right turn at ~15mph doesn't send your car rolling
IV is better than V
But, both games are subpar compared to LCS, VC and SA. Those games are subpar to GTA 1 and 2.
Also if you liked GTA 1 and 2, get Street Arena on steam.
>>321647567
Nah
>>321644308
GTA IV is grimdark bullshit.
I haven't played 5 but I was really disappointed there were no planes in 4.
>hurr floaty cars
I think most people grossly underestimate their actual speed when driving cars in videogames.
Especially in 3rd person view
>>321647461
I don't want to try that shit in real life Anon. Much like how I don't want to deal drugs in real life, or break into government facilities, or rob banks or shoot people in the face just because. I want to do it in video games and I want it to be fun.
>>321647567
Could be more of an edgy hipster please, I don't think quite everybody in 4chan noticed.
>>321644308
V: Better map
IV: Better story since V will never have DLC like The Lost and Damned & The Ballad of Gay Tony
>>321644308
Is there an optimization patch?
>>321647904
For what?
>>321646347
>cars drive like boats
Holy shit i agree so fucking much, GTA 4 such has alot more weight to everything, your character is slow the guns arn't OP. everyone in gta 5 is running around with fucking golden miniguns when the pvp starts.
>>321647306
No, it's a fact, retard. Literally everyone with a PS4 or XBox has GTA.
>>321648067
Show us your great driving gameplay then, anon.
>>321648051
4, It runs horribly.
>>321648157
Lol
>3D GTA
>Good gameplay
>>321648167
I fixed both GTA V and IV with some Nvidia settings, especially turning on threaded optimization it seems. I went from stuttery 30 in GTA V to 45-60.
>>321648468
Also, I did Vsync and triple buffering some, but I like 40-60 over 30.
>>321647849
V had an awful map. better than IV's, but terrible thanks to MOUNTAINS taking up roughly 45% of the fucking map.
I think GTAV was trying to be more hollywood and it is. After playing GTA V I can't go back to IV
>>321648996
God dammit this.
>happy to see we finally get country again
>excited for glorious return of deep woods and backroad exploration
>thanks to mountains everywhere, woods are only about 20 yards wide, and there's always a town or highway in plain view
Shit had me angry.
>better physics
no
>better pedestrian interactions
no
>better gunplay
no
>better radio
no
>The NPC health and object interaction are great
no
Here you go OP I hope you enjoyed my opinion remember to subscribe it really helps you know
>>321648179
Well, if V flips vehicles like they're on springs and IV is "too floaty", what's a better game?
Also
>cops touching your car in V automatically turns the tires
>>321644308
>The downsides of IV are that the missions are slightly repetitive
>slightly
Just show how biased you are, good thing Rockstar thinks IV was a letdown (which is) and will never repeat the same mistake again
V is better than IV by a ridiculous margin. You're just a bunch if contrarian faggots. The only thing IV did better was having single player story DLC.
>>321645735
Patch Games For Windows Live out motherfucker.
V managed to be better than IV even though its singleplayer was crippled in favor of developping an underwhelming multiplayer.
Goes to show how disappointing IV was.
>>321644308
>IV has more enterable buildings
I find this hard to believe. Outside of mission specific buildings, what was really enterable besides restaurants? In that way IV probably does have more accessible buildings than V's single player. But if you include all buildings, stores and player houses from V and GTAO compared to IV, V definitely has more enterable buildings.
>>321649306
i detest this
IV's driving was vastly superior to V's. IV also had TBoGT which was the most enjoyable experience since VC, even if they did ruin radio Vladivostok.
>>321649306
this happens when one of your tires is shot out too
even if it's one of the rear ones
>>321649646
There are some appartments in IV that you can enter but there's literally nothing to do there
>>321644308
>GTAV
>beautiful, large open world
>classic rock radio station, better all around radio
>Has fucking Trevor
>can fly planes
>more varied world; city, desert towns, country meth labs, etc
>explorable ocean
>more interesting protagonists and side characters
The only thing that GTA IV has on GTA V is DLC, as GTA IV actually HAS DLC whereas GTA V doesn't have a single bit of DLC.
>>321644308
Are you really this fucking autistic? Were you raped repeatedly when you were a child until you had development issues?
>>321644308
If you actually think the radio is better in 4 than 5 you are out of your God damn mind.
>>321649382
>>321649434
>>321649524
Pfff >>321649306
>>321650072
>Only thing
Physics. GTA IV could entertain me for hours just pushing people down stairs and standing on their face.
>>321650249
will you keep showing the 360 version or what?
Just played some IV last night after finally beating V's story mode.
I still enjoy the shit out of IV, but the camera on foot always snaps back to directly behind Niko, and just generally feels like it's fighting you compared to the free look of V.
Braking at high speeds even on dry streets sends you into an uncontrollable skid, like you're driving on ice.
>git gud
No, it is more realistic, but it's too much.
>>321649306
Wow, git gud. Cops are easy to deflect if you know what you're doing, and you can easily correct your direction.
Flippy cars are a direct gameplay choice and it's to prevent the tedium of accidently wrecking your car in the middle of nowhere AND to keep modded cars viable. It would be maddening if I just dropped 100k on a car only to lose it shortly after by tumbling off a cliff
>>321650527
>No, it is more realistic, but it's too much.
It's not realistic at all, they completely disregard the way modern cars' breaks work
>>321647349
I would say IRL driving is closer to V. The only problem is that the brakes are way more effective than any currently existing car. You can be going 90mph in a super car and stop within 10ft of hitting the brakes, it's ridiculous.
IV had more TECHNOLOGY, that I'm assuming was dropped for performance issues in V (or just because they realised only like 2% of players would even notice), but the game bored the arse off me. And I'm a big mafia fan in general; just anything mafia media related I lap up like a pig, but I couldn't give a fuck about Niko or Roman or Kate or Malory or Packie or... I can't even remember the other characters. There was a rasta of some sort? A fat black woman?
GTA V had less TECHNOLOGY but the game was overall more fun for me. GTA can't be realistic, and that's the direction GTA IV was leaning towards. GTA V has a storyline that could almost be realistic, but then plays it ridiculously, which is what GTA: SA did.
I think overall I prefer GTA V. But I think I just slightly prefer the ballad of gay tony over V.
>>321650527
>Braking at high speeds even on dry streets sends you into an uncontrollable skid
>he can't invert his car to compensate
>>321650650
>It would be maddening if I just dropped 100k on a car only to lose it shortly after by tumbling off a cliff
Maybe that's because the campaign doesn't have the decency to implement the insurance system from online
>>321651353
>that whole post
>muh realism
What a shallow argument.
GTA IV is better than V overall, but it pales in comparison to Vice City.
>>321648468
I already hover around 50-60 with frequent drops into the 40s on gta4
Thanks anyways, I was just hoping for a stability patch or something
I fucking love /v/. A game can be the worst thing in the world until the sequel comes out and then the last game (that was previously trashed) is fantastic again.
Everyone hated GTA IV when it came out. And now it's not just good in comparison to V, it's objectively great.
Fuck you guys.
>>321653740
>can't list problems with IV
OK. Save the melodrama for playwrites?
>>321653740
>/v/ is one entity with a collective and unanimous opinion
No, fuck you. /v/ always hated it for the things it did wrong, but the amazing TECHNOLOGY moments are something that everyone has always said IV did right.
V is not better then IV, but IV definitely has better things that V has
>>321644308
>IV being better than anything.
I think it is a good game if you want to do like 50 missions where you drive for 10 minutes and then kill a guy.
>>321654506
The knob on top of that mine looks like the knob that holds the spare tyre of my car down.
V is objectively superior to IV
>muh driving
IV fags are basically just like Vice City "DA MUSIC BRAH" fags at this point.
>>321644308
Nice thread, just got GTA V on steam, i had already beat it on PS3 tho so it's a nice new playtrough with 60fps
Could you guys reccommend me the best mods? Like, not that silly shit like grappling hook or iron man mods, preferably overhaul mods.
Already got the RAiDER'S BLOOD, VIOLENCE & RAGDOLL OVERHAUL mod, it's pretty good so far
I like 5 more than 4 simply because I live in New York and I'm tired of seeing it in video games. The only fun part of 4 for me was visiting my block and noticing that Rockstar actually took the time out to model the building I lived in almost exactly how it is in real life
>>321654789
IV indeed has better details actually. GTA V feels pretty generic.
>>321647349
Did you ever try taking that Dodge van through Times Square at 150 mph?
No, I didn't think so.
Cars' suspensions aren't just magical metal rods that keep a car from flipping, they have real physics.
>>321650363
That happens on the PC version also.
>>321654506
>>321654667
>>321654789
>implying this thread isn't full of criticisms for V as well as complements about IV
>>321655318
https://youtu.be/x1i3aNkaWrQ
>>321644308
You forgot far superior driving
I literally can't wait for GTA VI at this point, and the main reason for that is to see /v/ sucks on V's dick
>>321654789
>wanting quality mechanics on a mechanic you spend around 40% of the game using
if I wanted arcade driving on my thief game I'd be playing Saints Row
IV had one of my all-time favorite stories in a video game. The writing in V was just insufferably edgy.
>>321656195
Do you even understand what edgy means, kid? because even calling V a meme game would make more sense than calling it edgy.
>>321655783
He would've gotten ticketed for going above 25 mph :^)
Unless you're live really far from mass transit or on your way to a booty call, there's really almost no reason to drive a personal vehicle anymore in NYC. This 25 mph speed limit is beyond ridiculous, but I guess they wanna jew people more because the state is deep in debt and they wanna give an excuse of 'safety'.
>>321650650
>It would be maddening if I just dropped 100k on a car only to lose it shortly after by tumbling off a cliff
That happens in campaign. Even leaving your car parked on a street does that.
>>321656195
>IV had one of my all-time favorite stories in a video game.
Congratulations on either not playing many games or having shit taste.
SA>V>VC>IV>the rest
>>321647461
jesus christ this isn't modded gta is it?
desu GTA V was probably the most disappointing game I've ever played. After watching that first trailer I got super hyped, and figured I was going to be playing GTA IV with better graphics, customization, and the cheats of San Andreas, but instead I got a watered down hollow game with shitty physics and functionality that punishes fun.
gta5 has better city and unsolved mystery. it wins
IV had some god tier TECHNOLOGY
UNO DOS TRES QUATRO
GTA IV was Rockstars most half assed main series GTA game
GTA V is SO much more polished its ridiculous
how anyone can even stand to play IV considering how badly it runs on both PC and consoles is beyond me
not to mention Rockstar literally made the game worse with updates
meanwhile V runs like a dream
>>321657068
Haven't the files been picked through? It's obvious that this is just big foot all over again.
>>321657682
the people who searched the files missed bigfoot, and it was discovered for real this year in GTA5
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/gta-5-has-a-hidden-playable-bigfoot-character/1100-6430885/
>>321657916
I meant bigfoot in san andreas, nigga.
>>321657916
>This update is not available on Xbox 360 and PS3 due to technical issues preventing further content from begin added.
>>321658103
i know, my point is they missed the files in GTA5 when searching. as I just said it was just found recently
>>321644520
>gta sa comes out
FUCK GTA SA, GTA3 WAS BETTER
>gta 4 comes out
FUCK GTA 4, GTA SA WAS BETTER
>gta 5 comes out
FUCK GTA 5, GTA 4 WAS BETTER
Fucking hell
>>321657068
Both games suffer from the "perfect game sequel syndrome".
San andreas was so perfect that everything that comes after, no matter how good, will always be seen as inferior, specially when both IV and V were less ambitious than san andreas, even considering the tech leap.
When will we get a new GTA that's Vice City and Blood Dragon mixed and molded on GTA5's framework/engine?
>>321656510
He is correct. Trevor is ultra edgy. The whole thing about Michael being a modern American male cuck whose daughter is a pornstar slut was also cringeworthy.
>>321658598
If gta5 would have had better gunplay (guns that head kick to them and didn't take 5 shots to kill someone with a fucking deagle), plus a wider variety of guns, it would have been great.
They also turned into the fun police, like removing the ability to open the back of the titan, there is no good reason why they did this.
>>321644520
This literally happen with every game in this place
>>321658598
No such thing. I can fuck around in IV more than SA because of the more intense physics and driving depth.
http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/Handling.cfg/GTAIV
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LbJSZn71hjHUlUbULeX9qqTHVD7v6-oLfH0z6GDJo7k
>>321659041
>tfw first playing GTA IV, on PC, even with ENB
>that SUV tilt
>>321647349
Yeah okay
how often do you turn precisely going over 50 miles per hour? You do slow down before turns right? How often do you brake and go 75 to 0 in 4 seconds?
>>321656938
>>321647461
>tfw thought that was modded gta for the first 5 times that i saw it
>>321644308
IV played like shit though. Everything felt clunky as fuck.
There's no point in comparing these two though, San Andreas was better than both.
>>321662069
SA has such obsolete mechanics: no free aim while driving, low quality mouse sensitivity/response, awful driving depth, no physics, etc.
>>321644308
IV had superior atmosphere, the city felt heavy, almost claustrophobic.
Also superior motorcycle physics that don't depend on rails
>>321662650
>IV had superior atmosphere, the city felt heavy, almost claustrophobic.
this right here, the atmosphere in IV was really really fucking good. It was literally what hooked me till the end of the game
I think V is an overall improvement, and I think most people feel this way.
The only thing I could argue about was that they changed the driving to be more arcadey, but that made some missions way more managable so I really don't feel that bothered by that either.
But you were whining how shit GTA IV is when it's first released.
>>321644582
It annoys me when people call limitations or missing things "bugs" but it's true that GTA IV had more of those little details.
For some reason I still enjoyed V more. I found the world and characters more interesting. I enjoyed the multiple protagonists even if it's a bit annoying that their resources aren't shared gameplay-wise. The missions in V are also more varied. I'll take that over being able to enter a car without turning the engine on.
If you don't think V was better in every way besides storylines then you're retarded
The only thing I miss from GTAIV was the vigilante missions you could do by stealing a police car.
>>321654487
>TECHNOLOGY moments
Exaggerating the physics and ragdolls isn't fucking technology.
>>321663163
There are way more annoyances with V than that, like cars disappearing, no cops patrolling, cops disappearing, the automated wheel turn from being hit by cops, depth of car modding but no insurance replacement, etc.
>>321647849
>V: Better map
But 60% of the map is empty
>>321644434
https://www.gta5-mods.com/misc/rebalanced-authority
a fix for most of those problems.
>>321663860
Do the same thing in the V webm with IV and you'll get the same results.
>>321647324
that wasn't made by rockstar, but only published. The company behind it went bankrupt.
They were planning on making a detective type of game set in china or india, I can't remember which. That might've been cool.
>>321664037
>needing a third party fix for problems that should not be present, anyway
>>321664057
No. V is the only GTA in which peds die from 1 shoot in the leg.
>>321664290
Give me a fucking Detective Dee game already.
>>321663746
Yeah the car tuning thing is annoying, especially since Franklin can do it for free but not the others.
I haven't been to annoyed by cars disappearing on PC at max settings though.
I don't really understand the no cars patrolling thing, why does it matter exactly? People still call the cops if you start rampaging.
I don't really understand why people prefer GTA IV's story
is it more gritty and serious? yeah
but it also lacks focus
you run around doing a bunch of shit meeting a bunch of characters and in the end none of it matters
its very episodic feeling but in a sloppy way
all the self contained stories seem to go on too long
Dimitri just kind of shows up towards the end after you've already been through all kinds of shit and says okay I'm the big bad guy now
theres no progression or build up for most of the game and at the end you're just left thinking "what did I even do any of this for"
Niko himself seems to lack focus up until the end of the game
the whole setup of him even coming to America seems a little too basic and suspect to me
I really just think Rockstar wanted to make a more gritty Scorsese-esque crime story but they didn't actually think about it that hard or plan it out very much
they just kind of rambled off dramatic themes and waxed poetic so that the style was there but a solid coherent narrative was not
>>321664057
Nope.
>>321664716
>I don't really understand the no cars patrolling thing, why does it matter exactly? People still call the cops if you start rampaging.
Because cops are triggered psychically in some instances, if not most. It reduces from the ambiance of the supposedly amazing city, as do many of the other negatives that stack with it. Mods can fix it? OK.. that doesn't improve the experience of all the play that happened before the PC version nor that's still happening on even next gen consoles.
Some of those "other things" include automatic wheel turning, as mentioned, a limit on car speeds even though they're advertised as faster, fucking literal auto-aim on all consoles.. even in multiplayer, etc.
>>321664057
>>321665259
>>321665360
what graphics mod are you using?
>>321663860
And RDR did it better than both of them
Mark my words, GTAV is not going to be Rockstar's definitive GTA for this gen, just like SA>GTAIIISan Andres 2 is coming
>>321665259
>running away after getting shot right in the foot with a large calibur handgun at close range
>this is more realistic according to IVfags
>>321665630
Are you pretending to be stupid?
>>321664441
You need a third party fix to play GTA IV on pc too
>>321665776
Nevermind, I misread your post.
>>321665865
Don't worry anon, moot made the delete button for a reason.
>>321665448
Just ENB
http://www.gta4-mods.com/misc/simple-enb-for-natural-and-realistic-lighting-f20765
Here's my enbseries. Pretty sure I tweaked it, albeit not getting to editing the cab yellows. Seems fine though.
http://pastebin.com/YamJfTFQ
>>321665635
>not booking it after getting literally shot
It was probably just a graze.
>>321665360
>he takes cover as well
>>321666246
You've got to wait 2 minutes or more till you can get delete it so I'd rather be a man and put up with the shame.
>>321666378
It's just until your post CD ends.
>>321665360
Why is the guy running into the car?
>>321644434
>Driving down highway in GTAV
>Suddenly a car going the opposite direction swerves into the median and blocks my path
>No left turn there
>No reason for it to be turning
>No reason for it to be stopped
Who thought it was a good fucking idea to spawn vehicles in for the purpose of blocking your path?
>>321666329
ENB is a trigger word for me because in the early days before IV, SA was the game I'd usually mod and ENB to that game was making the sky the brightest thing ever and the road as shiny as a mirror.
Most of the ENB's in GTA IV do the same thing. Over-saturate and brightness to the max
>>321666553
Cockstar.
>>321666378
I can admire that. Most people just shitpost themselves into a corner. Good on you.
>>321666329
>It was probably just a graze.
yeah sure
but the thing I think you guys aren't realizing is that if you shot a random person on the street no matter where you shot them they'd probably collapse almost immediately simply for the fact that they have likely never experienced such sudden and unexpected pain of that magnitude in their entire lives
it would just overload their brain
4 was so bad i wasn't interested in trying 5
max payne 3 also helped in the decision of not trying 5 because it was also terrible
rockstar are has beens
>>321665228
5 was a let down too. You do missions for vaugeoorly defined groups and get caught with the FBI, and then there's 20 hours of filler as all of the characters bitch at each other then decide to do the thing they should have done in the first place right at the end, ending with pushing a shitty non villian off a cliff with a mediocre explosion to top it off. There's no feeling of progression either because stats don't significantly impact the gameplay and the game throws tons of guns at you in the first couple of hours.
>>321666480
Maybe he blinked, anon. That other car covered some distance.
>>321666837
Some projections there.
The NPC behavior has a lot more as shown in the further webms though. They're all the same guy. He had come back for more.
>>321667098
SA stat system is about the best. The driving progression is annoying now that it has been done, so it's not as if V having stats is better than IV.
V could've been the best game in existence, but it turned out to be a huge empty world with no substance, and a series of cutscenes to simulate progression.
>>321644308
V is better in absolutely every single aspect imaginable, gotta be delusional to think otherwise
>>321669174
*except the story
Whoops you forgot something in your post.
No worries
