I'm about to start pic related.
What am i in for and do you guys have any tips?
>>321643187
>ENCHANTMENT!!!
>>321643187
This game is a masterpiece.
Last I remember there were quite a few bugfix mods on the nexus.
That is it you're playing on pc.
>>321643187
Sex Morrigan, she's best waifu
>any tips?
Just remember that combat sucks but you're not meant to play this game for the combat, so just pretend it isn't happening.
>>321643516
Not a masterpiece. Not even close. Its good though. Solid 6 or 7. Few mods to change things on nexus and you'll be fine
>>321643187
Mages are broken.
>>321643187
Don't romance Morrigan on your first playthrough because she's edgy and autistic and will ruin how you're supposed to experience the game.
>>321643187
it's actually good. stay away from the sequels.
>>321643727
>6-7
A y y l m a o
>>321643886
? Tell me what it does better than any other WRPG that makes it deserve more than a 6.
play Leliana's song DLC first
>>321643705
The story and quest design sick too
>>321643187
why dont you just start the game and find out you absolute retard? these threads fucking suck
The last good Bioware game.
Mages are borked as fuck.
Elves are degenerates.
hurf durf faggtz git off mai vidyer
>>321644304
>quest design
The quests are pretty interesting if I recall correctly. Many of them have their own in-built story and cool choice you can make.
>story
Oh, you were baiting.
>>321644090
Not being a shitty action game? Having good character development? Actually being playable on console? Having a simple ui for pc and console?
A decent character creator that makes you feel like their backstory is important?
Real choice that actually effects the ending?
Maybe because it came along just before ask WRPGs became shit makes me say that but it's definitely a 9
Cone of cold for crowd control
Force field the boss and kill the minions for a better life
>>321643187
If you're the type of guy who solos everything, go Rogue - I managed to complete Nightmare difficulty without dying or F5/F9'ing, while also NAKED using a Rogue
I dunno much about Mage, but being an Arcane Warrior is very damn good.
Also, do you have the DLC? Play Leliana's Song. You get armor and a bow I think if you complete it. Actually, all DLC Campaigns give something, with the exception of A Tale From Orzammar, which just gives you a codex entry
>>321643187
>do you guys have any tips?
Morrigan disapproves (-5)
>>321643187
skip the fade mod.
>>321644487
Literally the same go here and save the world storyline every fucking game has, and don't forget the "buy this dlc" advertisement in game. It has a few special moments, but in all honesty the only slightly memorable quest is when you let yourself get captured and your teammates have to rescue you, other stuff were slightly altered ripoff a of what had already been done before, like the lands meet or whatever it was called, not to mention fights were too frequent and tedious as fuck at some points
>>321644090
Great characters. It pulls off the "take traditional fantasy tropes and put own spin" thing wonderfully. It's a new fantasy setting that isn't a soulless azn hackjob which is something we don't see anymore. When the combat is fixed/modded it has a variety of interesting, viable builds. Oh, and the story is great too, you see the results of all your decisions play out through the game and the ending changes accordingly, with huge variation particularly in the epilogue.
Anything else, cunt?
Play female elf Mage
Romance Alistair AND Lilliana
1 will dump you
Complete their sideplots
re-romance the one who dropped you
Romance Zevran right near the end
Harem ending
>>321644886
>Literally the same go here and save the world storyline every fucking game has
I guess you must have missed the parts about the old gods being unleashed and the Black City and all that. That's cool.
>fights were too frequent and tedious as fuck at some points
We were talking about the quest design and the story here.
Don't try to micromanage all 4 of your squad. Set up their tactic and only command them to do important spells.
>>321643628
This. She is best girl by far.
Last good Bioware game.
Dwarf noble is best origin.
>>321644561
>>321644561
Most of that is bullshit there was literally no character development outside of standard interactions with the character, the combat was trash, it reused , it wasn't an original game, it had the worst overall party of the entire series and ithe was incredibly railroaded the backgrounds were somewhat different, but all it did was change some dialogue, nothing drastic or too original.
>>321643516
playing it on PC, what mods should i get?
>>321645365
This man speaks truth chose dwarf noble. It is set in stone.
>>321644906
>>321644561
Anon dont bother defending Bioware here /v/ hates it so much that they could ahve released the witcher 3 and would still hate it for reasons.
>>321644367
because having a general view from people who already played the game might be helpful.
>>321645472
skip fade, textures, and character creation stuff
>>321645365
>>321645484
Dwarf Noble > City Elf > Human > Slums Dwarf > shit > Dalish Elf
>>321645559
ok cool. ANy advice on starting characters?
>>321645598
I wonder if the cut origins are still ingame and restorable..
>>321645676
You don't need any advice, dude. Just talk to every character and have fun with the choices.
>>321645430
>worst overall party in the series.
Okay, I can see you're just a shitter.
>>321644561
It being an action game has nothing to do with WRPGs or anything of the sort. The console version is in fact horrible becuase of the fact you're given 4 buttons to choose form. In a game with a dedicated pause function to plan out your attacks it defeats the purpose if you don't have many attacks to plan out. The AI is simple yes, but nothing new that gives it any warrant for being extraordinary. The backstories do not matter. As much as I wish it was true, it doesnt. It only matters in OTHER games. Like Awakening. It doesnt matter in the game its in.
>>321644906
The trope of "new guy becomes the new leader" isnt new at all. It also doesnt take a spin at it any way. The combat was fine for me without mods but if you say theyre better than go for it.
As I said before, the game is "good" its a 6 - 7. It plays everything safe. The whole game is safe. From the artstyle to the interactions between teammates to the combat. Safe can never be a masterpiece because its not striving for it. Its following a masterpieces shadow.
For the record I also hate witcher so fuck that other guy. And hate means 2-3/10
>>321645110
It was still original, he'll even if you compare it to mass effect substitute a few things here and there and it's the same thing as the reapers. The story had its moments, but for the most part it was fucking studio as fuck
And as for quest design, other than the jailbreak what's one interesting quest?
>>321643857
This. Leliana best waifu.
Don't expect a game as good as good Bg2
Yes, the combat is shit
Yes, the main story is shit
Still a good and enjoyable game
>>321645430
Confirmed for not having played the game. I could understand if you were criticising DA:O for its combat or something, but it literally excelled at character interaction more than any game I can even think of at the moment off the top of my head.
There's such things as opinions, and there are plain wrong statements.
Make sure you can make potions. It was either health or mana potions that I did it with, but one of them has really cheap ingredients but sells for an extra 100 or so. I got filthy rich and you just have to travel between two cities a few times. Naturally the payoff increases exponentially.
I finished the main game just this week.
Don't listen to the haters, just because SJWare might have gone to shit doesn't mean DAO isn't a great game.
>>321645676
yea just try to talk to everyone possible before you leave area. Might miss side quests
>>321643187
shapeshifting is legit broken and not in the good way, unless you use a mod to fix it dont bother
>there are dialogue differences for going into dungeons and such alone
>>321645430
>literally no character development outside of standard interactions with the character
Alistair ends upgoing from a virgin altar boy to king dick. Sten becomes a changed Qunari if you stick with him the whole game. Leliana and Morrigan confront their pasts and their future is mutable based on the decisions you make. Morrigan, in particular, changes quite a bit since you're the first guy in her life who sticks around for any period of time. Try again.
>>321645676
*It's good to have some Cunning regardless of class/specialization
*Willpower might as well be a dump stat - it only matters once in game, and unless you're a mage you won't ever encounter that point. BUT - it's the stat responsible for raising Stamina/Mana
*Magic increases effectiveness of potions and balms. If having 12 mag means you gain 100 hp from a small health poultice, having 14 will give you 140 etc. Check the wiki for just how much is actually gained
*have mod fixes at the ready, and get the mod that expands tactics
*if Rogue, go for backstabs. Eventually you'll be untouchable
*if you're a Mage, know that you're FUCKING INVINCIBLE...except for the first few hours of the game; take care not to fall in combat; you'll gain Injuries, which inflict penalties.
*you'll know a companion is temporary if his portrait has no color; strip them of their equipment immediately in order to sell them for gold/sovereigns
>>321645790
>as for quest design, other than the jailbreak what's one interesting quest?
The urn of sacred ashes quest, for one?
>>321645925
Nope. I still think Morrigan is a better love interest, despite the funny things you can do to Leliana like make her abandon her religion or get super duper religious.
It's just that if you try romancing Morrigan she gets all edgy and hates everything you do that helps people, almost to the point of hating everything you do that isn't objectively evil, and if you get her love too highshe refuses to have sex with you anymore and any higher than that and she'll get pregnant with your child then abandon you.
>>321643187
Genuinely one of the best games in it's genre.
Dual Wield Rogue. Human. Assassin/Ranger. Get the Shale DLC, she's a 10/10 companion.
Bang Morrigan.
Play on Nightmare. Unless you're a faggot.
Get used to never landing fucking hits.
Hope you can cheese the final boss.
Otherwise, get ready to enjoy the last good Bioware game.
>>321643187
Cone of Cold all day erry day
>>321646238
>mfw I sacrificed the mother and Alistair went apeshit at the camp
>>321646268
Morrigan isn't edgy so much as she just thinks it's a waste of time to help people, and that it doesn't make any sense to live your life as the pawn of others.
>>321646273
>Genuinely one of the best games in it's genre.
False.
>>321646420
Okay, so give me 5 other western RPG's that are better.
>>321646398
>have really religious Leliana
>defiled the urn
It was kind of heartbreaking, but I really wanted to unlock every class.
>>321646519
Shit like that is why I like the game so much. If you defile the urn with Leliana and Wynne in your party you could potentially have to kill them both. Shit the first time I Played the game I killed Wynne in the tower because I wanted to help the Templars and didn't know she was recruitable.
>>321646519
Fun fact, if you save before you defile the urn you can reload that save and still have the class
>>321643187
Unlocking the Reaver is a waste. It's a shitty specialisation that forces half your party to leave you.
Also don't be afraid to savescum in this game. It was made for it.
>>321646417
>Morrigan isn't edgy
She doesn't like when you try to negotiate non-violently, even if you aren't taking anybody's shit.
But she does like when you kill people you don't have to. She's fucking sadistic and has no social skills.
You can influence her slightly to stop that, but she's still a bit of a cunt.
>>321646474
Wizardry 6, 7, 8 treated as one 400 hours long game.
Ultima 6
Baldur's Gate 2(it does everything DA:O did but better)
Fallout 2
Might and Magic VI
Rogues are the most fun.
>>321646639
I bet you killed Zevran.
Enjoy the last good bioware game
>>321646648
Yeah, I didn't know they carried over at the time.
But I'm also big on living with consequences in games. I keep quests in a failed state in VtmB when I play, too. Unless it's something stupid like "you left this area before finishing this so you failed." Then I reload.
>>321646672
>Wizardy and Ultima
Outdated.
And i'm not him, I'm just giving my own opinion.
>>321646672
I prefer Dragon Age to all of those except for Fallout 2. Just because another game did something first doesn't mean it does it best
Skip the fade
>>321644472
>The last good Bioware game
Nah, ME2 was their last good one. It's overrated as fuck, but still damn good.
>>321643187
Crushing Prison is the best spell ingame, followed by Force Field
>>321646739
Nah he was pretty clearly recruitable. Also he's a qt for a female play through. His personal history is pretty grim when you get through to him. Good character.
>>321643187
>any tips?
When you're done, don't play DA2.
>>321646739
I get shocked when people tell me they didn't kill him.
Then I realize they probably had gay sex with him.
>>321646653
You can talk them down if you have enough reputation with them. Or just don't bring them with you.
>>321646890
What part does this skip? The origin story or the router questline?
>>321643187
Play on hardest difficulty the game is easy as fuck combat wise.
>>321646893
Suicide Mission alone makes the game worth it IMO.
>>321647002
I didn't kill him because I wanted to interrogate him
After all you still have the option to kill him after you do.
>>321647026
Don't skip the fade for your 1st playthrough. It's not that long.
>>321643187
This is an actually good game.
Play as an edgy blood mage.
>>321645762
OK letso do this, who is good
>>321647046
HAhahaha I can't wait for the poor lad to get to Kokari wilds and get complete fucked by darkspawn
>>321646859
>Just because another game did something first doesn't mean it does it best
In Wizardry 7 there were independent parties on the map.
They could get into the place some extremely important quest items were located and simply loot them before you(if you were slowfaggot). You've had to buy or steal the item or just beat the party(potentially gaining lots of tough enemies) to get it back from time to time.
How many times it happened to you in Dragon Age huh?
>>321647096
Fade is so fucking boring that I regret listening to this piece of advice.
>>321647082
I just kill him later on when he can turn on you.
>>321646739
At the first meeting I recruited him, but he was too faggy and I already had Leiliana,Alistair and Wynne as my default party so I never talked to him. Then I killed him after he and his shitty old friend attacked me.
>>321647175
I thought the fade was great.
But holy shit do it early in. The enemies scale pretty poorly with you towards the end and make the whole thing a hassle.
Reminder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83IUBpvvicc
>>321646268
http://www.nexusmods.com/dragonage/mods/1120/?
Even if you don't plan to romance her it's probably still worth getting.
>>321647082
>spare and keep him around
>don't bother to talk to him
>loot his armor earlier for leliana
>he tries to kill me again, naked
Whoa at least put on some armor first dude
>>321647240
> Killing Based Zev
HGoly shit
>>321647254
I did it later on. Maybe that was why. It was so fucking boring.
Mod leliana to have her original appearance.
>kill flemmeth at lvl 9
>be super happy because the dragon fight was fuck as fuck
>in the game you fight only 3 dragons
This game just needed more dragon fights and it would be perfect.
>>321647334
greasy beaner got what he deserved
>>321647026
The Fade is a maze area that pops up abruptly during a tense moment in one of the main quests. While the concept is interesting, the level just drags on too long.
You could do it if you're a completionist but if you just want to have a good time, use the mod. It doesn't skip all of it actually. Instead, it provides an alternative, much shorter version that is just as effective at telling the story.
>>321643187
>Mages are broken by default, but rogues are the most fun
>Leliana best girl, but Morrigan is good too
>get the Character Respecialization mod and fix Morrigan's shitty spells
>Sten a bro
>Try to make friends with all your mates and end the game with all your companions alive
>Remember that Bioware only went downhill from here
>Play 2 and Inquisition later to join everyone else in the chants of disappointment and rage
>>321647374
Mod morrigan to have the qt short hair and hoodie
>>321647261
is that Qunari male or female?
>>321646962
he's a qt for a male play through too :^)
>>321647167
Well never because they're completely different games obviously. But for quests I think Origins is pretty good. The Anvil of the Void choice is pretty rough as is choosing the Werewolves or the Elves.
![azjeqkvouk7ydakg35ra[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/NhU4s2A.png "azjeqkvouk7ydakg35ra[1].png")
>>321647578
>assigning binary genders in the DA universe
Disgusting.
>>321643187
Skip that shit and go straight for the other ones
>>321646036
I beat the game. But of course if I have to love it right? It's been a few years but I literally can not remember anything interesting about the characters, and I have a good memory. Other than being able to harden Liliana and Alistair I don't remember any development.
>>321647606
Bitch is psycho so off with her head. DA:O is great because only the blight matters so the game allows you to be a complete asshole to everything else
>>321647823
Then you and I remember different games. Either that or you didn't really interact with them. Even Sten had good character development and he had the least out of everyone.
>>321647823
It really varies. Some characters are really stale if you do actions they agree with. Sometimes going against a characters wishes is when they really shine.
>>321647606
>as is choosing the Werewolves or the Elves
I like the game but that decision point was kinda stupid. The natural flow of the story encourages either siding with the elves or finding the neutral solution, but siding with the werewolves is just forced and edgy like a couple of the other obviously "evil" decisions.
>>321647680
Man I wish they wouldn't push that stuff so hard. I love Origins and Inquisition, and even Platinumed DA2, so these games are huge for me. But Jesus the community is overwhelmingly bad and cringey with their 'shipping' and 'headcanon'. One of the worst communities for some of the best games of the modern gens.
>>321647868
Yeah, but you could get Golems if you side with her which would crush the fuck out of the Darkspawn. So can you really justify turning that resource down?
>>321647943
Werewolves were literally in the right, though.
>>321646183
Morrigan stays the same edgy as fuck character, and I know for sure I maxed her shit out and did her personal quest. Sten I didn't bother much with but hardening a character into the same edgy pos is not good development, fuck in baldur's gate you get a character that change their entire alignment from evil to neutral if you engage her right, and while she doesn't undergo a drastic change in personality it's still somewhat realistic compared to the canned development of characters that can't ever change 'cause their voiced
>>321647261
What the fuck is wrong with your characters voice? It's literally phoned in.
>>321647943
Years ago I thought about changing it too, but the random evil out of nowhere choices were what made this game great. It felt so ridiculous and over the top in a game that was otherwise treated seriously that it just felt fantastic. And I was so bummed when DA2 came out that they had a dialogue wheel instead of straight dialogue like the prequel.
>>321647943
That's funny because I choose the Werewolves almost every time. The whole point is stopping the blight and I would rather have fucking Werewolves than elves helping me.
>>321645786
You're giving the game a truescale review though anon. You need to give it a gaming journalism score, which would make it a 9.5/10, as anything below a 7 is barely playable subhuman garbage.
>>321647943
werewolves were in the right, elfscum
>>321648060
IIRC everyone is like "uhh, what? Are you SURE you want to do this?" especially when there's a "make everyone happy" solution available instead of slaughtering all the people you just spent a chapter helping.
>>321647943
anything to piss off knife ears is ok in my book
>>321648156
Funny because elves are actually more useful in the final fight than werewolves.
>>321648118
>Morrigan stays the same edgy as fuck character
Uh, no she doesn't, at least if you romance her. But I think she still changes if you help kill Flemmeth.
>Sten I didn't bother much with
Well Sten does get development if you bother doing his quest and connecting with him.
Did you even bother playing the game and interacting with the characters at all?
reminder that Sten and Morrigan are the best combination for the prison rescue quest
>Morrigan will try whore herself out to the guards
>Sten will just kill them
>>321646739
I already didn't like the faggot after he hit on me.betraying mewas his last chance, even if he was my only elf bro.
>>321643187
Don't forget to recruit Sten.
>>321646238
>The urn of sacred ashes quest, for one?
Dude that quest concept is repeated in game, let alone outside. That's my biggest complaint, a great majority of the game is either really black or white like sacrifice a person to gain a small buff, or choose between two assholes, like the dwarf quest, though even that one, one guy is better than the other ones, but either way it's presented as go through dungeon, at the end make a decision, and didn't kick the puppy, Morrigan disapproves. Some quests have slightly more interesting decisions but it's all still the same lazy presentation, Also Your character has like no realistic growth. Compared to xenoblade where you don't start off being like the person everyone turns to like you're some god
>>321648492
>prison rescue quest
That shit was the tits
>>321648118
characters changing doesn't mean changing about everything in a way you want them to.
characters changing means characters not being exactly as they used to be. it's more realistic to have both characters that can change a lot and characters that only change a bit than being able to rewrite everyone to your liking.
minor change is still change.
>>321645365
>>321645598
Gud taste, did you know dwarf noble has an official unvoiced prequel you can download.
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/A_Tale_of_Orzammar
>>321648156
>>321648307
>>321648361
Well I guess Bioware knew some of their audience would be irredeemable edgelords, so good for them :^)
>>321648147
Yeah, over-the-top is what it is, and a little jarring, but at least they give you the option I guess. I was hoping it would be a little more subtle like some of the other decision points in the game where there's justification for either choice rather than ^^^^^^
>you can't romance best girl Wynne
Literally the only thing about the game I don't like.
>>321647823
How about getting Oghren to admit he was a shitty husband and that maybe he should cut back on the drinking if he wants to try and get his wife back.
But /v/, was Loghain right?
>>321647968
The concept of "headcanon" is retarded. Its just being delusional about things, with a shit ton of mental gymnastics used to justify it.
>>321648598
The mystery of the dragon cult, the fact that there was an OPTIONAL and terrifying boss fight, the dragonlings you could fight there, the puzzle area you had to go through at the end.
It was all just so well done. How could you not enjoy it?
>>321648886
Yes. To the chopping block you goAlistair!
>>321648750
>:^)
>>321648309
That neutral option was far too easy to accomplish imo.
>>321648886
Yes
The fucking Landsmeet vote dialogue not matching with the actual outcome...
>>321648886
I didn't hate him for retreating. It's the fact he sends fucking assasins after the last two people who can kill the archdemon in Ferelden.
>>321648364
I did romance her, and she still is egdy, I sure as fuck remembering her disapproving of me not defiling the urn and not sacrificing the slave for the minor power boost.
>>321649013
What do you mean? Everyone but one guy always sides with me. Although I do all the sidequests to get the nobles to hate Loghain.
>>321649097
When you properly interact with Morrigan, she becomes less edgy/pragmatic. It's very subtle but it's there.
>>321649013
What in Inquisition? You don't think Bioware would actually put in the effort to accomdate those choices. Too difficult for them, I gave elves a fucking state basically. Nope still slaves.
>>321647943
But the werewolves were in the right. The elves had no reason to treat them like shit.
>>321649230
Inquisition never shows any of the extreme racism that elves are supposed to face in like every city so the choice of what to do with the elves seemed pretty shoehorned in.
>>321648182
It seems like neo/v/ cant handle a true scale rating anymore. To think anything below a 7 is barely playable is so wrong its disgusting. I really didnt understand the hate I got calling it a 6-7. Thats legit better than average. Its considered Good / great by a real scale. But nope. If it isnt a "masterpiece" then im 100% wrong and apparently im a cunt for not "playing" the game
>>321649042
Well, that and heis trying to usurp the throne and is conspiring with the guy who killed your family
>>321649135
I didn't do enough quests to win the vote without the princess' support, but with the right dialogue choices all but the final noble would side with me, but I would still lose the vote.
>>321647937
Sten was boring, and my party redundant. He was a trope character with the same tired redeemed warrior, he even has a quest to recover his sword. I.don't remember much about him, but I do know I wasn't impressed. I preferred the ginger dwarf. Him, and the cleric chick were the only ones I genuinely liked
>>321649403
Only if you picked gay ass human noble
>>321643510
>>321649372
>Its considered Good / great by a real scale.
Definitely not. Mediocre-decently good
>>321649432
I think the suggestion was a joke anon, Sten is widely seen as the most boring companion.
>>321649432
Sten was great. You learned that everything he did was literally just "muh sword" and the way he acted was to show how deep his loss cut into his pride. And once you help him he shows loyalty and gratitude and it's all so refreshing coming from him.
>>321649519
>Sandal, what the hell happened here?
>ENCHANTMENT
>>321649097
Did you have Alistair or Leliana with you?
Sometimes she disapproves just because you did what they wanted. If you just have her, Ohgren, and the mabari hound she generally doesn't give a shit what you do unless it's out of the way.
wow holly shit this thread got huge real fast.
>>321649372
>initial post rates it a 6-7
>backpedaling to "s-seven isn't that bad guise"
This game is a solid 8 at least. If you want a 6 go play D:OS.
>>321649423
Okay that's bullshit.
>can't name your dog as champion in the Loghain fight
Friendly reminder you NEED to fixmod this game otherwise quite a few things are broken, from relationships to how later scenarios play out.
>>321649825
Holy shit I never thought of trying that. That would've been amazing.
>>321649529
???
Whats wrong with you?
5 Being average means ANYTHING above 5 is better than what average means. The definition of mediocre is instantly below average. This is legit just the English language at this point.
>>321649653
? I'm not backpedeling. My rating of a 6-7 is still the same. 8 implies amazing. This game is not amazing. As I said before, its safe. Its a safe WRPG that does nothing amazing but because its safe it cant do bad either. Its above average, hence why its not a 5. But its not anything I'd put on my hall of fame so its not an 8. Its a 6-7. That is a real rating. If it was bad, itd be a 2-3.
Just learn the real ratings and you wouldnt be so angry and understand the situation.
>>321643187
The best way to describe it in my opinion is that it's likeable.
>>321649939
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpIkavGX5iY
>>321649942
9-10 implies amazing, 8 implies very good.
>>321649939
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpIkavGX5iY
>>321644648
>Virulent Living Bomb on tank
>Aggro everything
>Forcefield
>Crushing Prison
Literally breaks the game.
>>321650065
9 is outstanding, 10 is masterpiece.
8 is amazing, 7 is great, 6 is good, 5 is average, 4 is below average, 3 is mediocre, 2 is bad, 1 is awful.
This isnt hard.
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>>321649519
>>321649939
I think if you do it, Loghain calls you out on mocking him and you have to choose again. I could be wrong though.
Loghain makes a nice "well, shit" reaction if you put him against Shale.
>>321649606
Either way point remains that she didn't really change much because dialogue
>>321650057
>>321650084
>doubing my dog's loyalty
You better not talk shit about my dog, Eamon.
You bitch ass nigga.
>>321650057
How can people not love this game?
>>321649942
I haven't seen a single test at school or university where reaching 50% was anything but barely passing the test. A game with 7x% score might still be a lot of fun for people who like the genre, despite being a mediocre game otherwhise.
>>321650279
I dont know why you wouldnt fight him yourself but that sounds funny got a video?
>>321650192
No, 10 is legendary epic triumph, 9 is masterpiece, 8 is superb, 7 is good, 6 is OK, 5< is shit
wanna keep going?
>>321650428
I think if you search youtube loghain champion and companion's make you get what you want.
and I mostly fought him myself, but da:o is one of my favorite games (no judging) I've replayed it like 8-10 times. at some point I wanted experiment
>>321650481
>>321650192
9 is masterpiece. 10 is your personal 10/10.
A 10 for one person could be an eight or a nine for another person.
>>321650110
You can break the game just by moving. The hybrid turn-based/realtime combat system they use don't allow for any actions during movement. This means that as long as a character is moving, no melee attacks can hit them, neither can they execute any actions.
>turning lolcats mage and honorable Justice spirit into an angsty edgelord
Thanks, BioWare.
>>321651006
>no melee attacks can hit them
That's wrong, once an attack begins it will connect regardless of distance. Of course, you can still kite those ogres around because everyone has the same movement speed, but in small spaces it's not possible.
>>321651135
How do you turn a literal spirit of justice into an edgelord
>>321650481
Wheres the average? Wheres the middle? If you negate the middle then by your list you're going by a 1-5 rating. So your average will still be the number 3. You're just scewed in the head with all these new age ratings. Its fine.
>>321650372
Holy shit, I think I just realized why "gaming journalism" doesn't want to rate anything below a 7.
Most of these sites and reviews are based in the US, and in a majority of US schools, 69% is the lowest possible percentage to get a D, anything below that is failing.
Thus 70%-100% (7-10) is the acceptable range for ratings if it isn't absolute dogshit (failing).
>>321651519
>Wheres the average? Wheres the middle?
Well considering no game aims for 1-5, much less actually ends up there (unless we're talking about shovelware), we're looking at 6-10 for games worth playing. So a game like DA:O would be an 8 thanks to high production values, good writing and decent gameplay when everything is fixed up, relative to say BG:2 which would be a 9, possibly 10. 6 is barely worth playing.
>>321644561
>action
>bad
Spotted the cuck. Real time > turn base.
>>321651609
Yeah, I figured it out long ago. I remember gaming magazines in my country would routinely score stuff 4-6, a 7 was a "wow, you should definitely check this out, it's good".
>>321643727
I really liked it, but this is a more reasonable rating.
They clearly put a lot of care into the game, which makes its sequels look even worse.
>>321652013
>DA:O
>high production value
>good writing
OP here, the game finished downloading and now i'm creating the character, guess i'm going with Human Mage.
>>321651323
Good spirits can get corrupted, Justice explained this in Awakening.
Anders wanted justice for his fellow mages and Justice wanted to help him, being a spirit of justice and all. Then for some fucking reason he decided to merge with Anders, maybe the reason was mentioned at some point but I don't remember.
Then Anders's bitterness corrupted Justice over time and turned him into Vengeance, in turn currupting Anders as well.
Technically it makes sense in the DA world but it's bullshit and ruins two characters I liked a lot.
If you want the easiest playthrough then go human mage and take the blood mage specialization
>>321652013
Nobody aims for average. It doesnt mean because someone doesnt look its direction it doesnt mean tis not there. Things have an average, humans, jobs, lives, media. Everything. Ignoring it or not noticing it because your school says not to is not the thing. You dont follow US school ratings because of that reason. Its an awful metric which breeds awful mindsets which is being proven so instantly its disturbing.
BE A DWARF
STEAL ALL THE WIMMAN AND ELFS
MAKE THEM LUST FOR YOUR DWARVEN C0CK
>>321652860
It's called a bellcurve, the average isn't magically 50% just because the scale is 1-10. The majority of games you want to shell out money for and spend 50+ hours on will fall in the 6-10 range, with 6-7 being the lower end, 8 being the middle and 9-10 being the top end. 1-5 just describes various degrees of failure.
>>321653259
>It's called a bellcurve, the average isn't magically 50% just because the scale is 1-10
I wonder why most of /v/ doesn't understand that
>>321643727
>Solid 6 or 7
Pfffhahahahahaha!
So far so good, apparently i have a bear now.
>>321655625
Trust the bear, he will lead you to your destiny.
So, worst area
The Fade
Deep Roads
Mountainside Caverns
Reaver is the one specialization I never bothered with in Origins, it looks like shit gameplay wise. Champion and Templar, always
>>321656591
Reaver is the best Warrior specialization, it requires actual forethought to use, and it's really damned good besides.
>>321656591
Reaver is the strongest Warrior class
I remember soloing Nightmare with an AW
shit's funonce you stop geting instakilled by Overwhelm
>>321657696
>>321657426
Berserker is way better than Reaver at the only thing that matters, damage. Both lose out to Duelist/Assassin though
>>321656591
>>321657426
>>321657696
Reaver with the darkspawn potion from that keep dlc makes you a monster
>>321652118
It's not turn based though. It's a boring cross between the two.
>>321648492
>Not the Dwarf and the Ogre
>There are people that skip the Fade
>There are people that think that the Fade is worse thanOrzammar
>>321643628
>losing Morrigan's love points every time you make a decision.
Bitch be gone. She can stay in the camp area and get fucked inbetween missions.
>>321658347
>Not Oghren and Zevran
At least they're the funniest, Dwarves and Elves team up
>>321658415
>weeaboo thinking his dumb opinion matters
>>321658480
>>321646672
>Might and Magic VI
mah redguard
>>321658617
when'd she get raped
>>321658563
The fade wasn't that bad senpai
>>321658535
>>321658347
>>321648492
>the 3rd best manipulator of your group after the bard and the assasin is your dog
>>321643727
seconding, it's poor mans Baldurs Gate
>>321646273
>Genuinely one of the best games in it's genre
>Top Tier
Dual Wielding
>Mid Tier
Two-Handers, Weapon and Shield
>Low Tier
Archery
>>321659426
every CRPG that isn't Baldur's Gate is a poor mans Baldur's Gate
>>321660758
What about Fallout 1/2?
>>321643187
Use mods so you aren't forced to use a thief to lock-pick doors and chests, warrior class it's nerfed compared to any other class, and use mods in general to improve a bit the quality of the characters to make them look like how they are supposed to be in trailers and shit, also there are other mods to improve loot and to let you romance everyone from your party without the risk of others getting mad.
>>321660828
poor man's BG
