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How the fuck did this even come into being?


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How the fuck did this even come into being?
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Failed Shinra robot?

More likely a Shinra made smart house that kills people.
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mako magic
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>>321624784
I don't know.
What I do know is that this won't be in the remake. The remake will be full of generic shinra soldiers an shit.
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I wonder how the remake will handle all the weird shit in FFVII. I can definitely see modern SE remove the bathhouse or enemies like this.
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Maybe the designers and director wanted to have some fun.
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>>321624784
Is that a doggy house?
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A house got fucked up thanks to all the mako. What's the problem?
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>>321624784
daily reminder that the remake will have all the good characterful shit removed.
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>>321625237
>>321624940
This house is persistent enemy, I remember this shit being in FFIX too.
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It is a monster that inhabits abandoned houses in the slums, hoping some hopeless hobo will wander in for the night. It's basically a living human trap. The house is not part of it.
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>walking through the slums
>suddenly rumbling
>that fucking house behind you transfigures into some nightmarish abomination out of nowhere
>last thing you see is a you getting charged by 50 tons of building material

SE could make this into something really good, but they won't.
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>home designer : What kinda home u want
>him : Just fuck my house up
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>>321625324
Getting turned into a frog in unreal engine would be cool as fuck but it won't happen
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>>321626317
Why won't it happen?
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>>321624940
This.
The livestream did put Cloud into a wheelchair.
In my mind he never recovered and the rest of the game is just his addled brain giving up on him.
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>>321626476
Explain the house beast existing in the fucking slums then.
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>>321626476
But it's VII not VIII
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>>321626476

Woooooaaaaah.

It was all a Deathbed dream!

>Terra died and the world of ruin was her deathbed dream
>Cloud basically died and the game is his retard deathbed dream
>Squall died and the game is his dream
>Zidane died in the Tantalus crash and the game is his dream
>Tidus -
...Whatever.
>The creative control of the original FFXII director died and the game is some marketing executive's dream

Shut up and stop it.
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>>321626574
They're surrounded by nuclear reactors without environmental regulations.
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>>321626768
>his addled brain giving up on him
>slums
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>>321624784
IT JUST WORKS https://youtu.be/hTc9sLmOR0A
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>>321627012
>A villain known for creating illusions creates an illusion of the world ending
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How did Jenova break out of her cell in Shinra HQ?

How did the jail doors open (after Cloud & everyone got caught by the Turks)?
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>>321624784
man this game had such perfect graphics
I am perpetually triggered by the fact it will get a remake with stupid high resolution lifeless graphics and most certainly an overall shift in aesthetics and character towards something cheap and cringy and insubstantial
this life is torment
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>>321627652
every FF before 10 had the perfect graphics of it's kind
but that was a long time ago when squeenix was still good
how could everything go so wrong after 10?
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>>321627629
mako
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>>321624784
It is a hermit crab mako monster. Every weird enemy in this game is a mako monster. They are magic and often defy logic on some level.

It is also FFVII's mimic.
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>>321627813
>squeenix
That's not how you say Squaresoft.
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>>321624784
MOVE OVER BITCH
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>>321626740
But everything you said is right. And it makes sense, these characters died and had their Final Fantasy
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>>321627989
i fucked up, sorry anon, it's like 10:00 am here
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>>321624784
It's a Building Elemental, aka Urban Elemental
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>>321628095
At last I truly see.
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Now that I think about it I wonder how they will actually handle the rest of the game after you leave midgar.
I don't play any modern vidya but I'm pretty sure an open map will be out of the question. But the way the story progresses between locations still seems a thing of the past.
I suppose it's going to be like FFX where you go from screen to screen and eventually get an airship that can take you to certain locations.
In that sense it's bound to be a lot more streamlined as an experience.
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>>321627289
This
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>>321628095

I said stop.
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>>321628384
>I don't play any modern vidya but I'm pretty sure an open map will be out of the question.

whys that? FFXV has an open map thats connected to large cities.
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>FFIX
>they learn how to fly
PANIC
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>>321628653
It also has one playable character.
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>>321628653
>whys that? FFXV has an open map thats connected to large cities.
that's an mmo
but I get your point, I'm thinking of open map too much as open map/overworld which isn't necessarily the case with modern games
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>>321628653
Yeah but XV is one massive game

7R is going to be multiple smaller games, most likely won't even have a world map

7R is most likely going to have an FF12 styled maps, just big zones but no actual world map with the whole world connected for you to travel like XV

>>321629360
You can do more with Noctis than you can the entire FF7 party, one weapon in FFXV is as much difference as an entire character in other FFs, and you switch between 4 weapons on the fly in FFXV, all with different movesets, stats, abilities, range, level, attributes etc
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>>321629474
XV isn't an MMO, it's a massive open world game with the whole world as one map, you go seamlessly through towns to open fields to dungeons to whatever location all on one massive connected map.
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>>321629481
I don't care about FFVII.
I'm just mad.
ONE PLAYABLE CHARACTER.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY THINKING.
http://squareportal.net/2014/11/12/interview-final-fantasy-xv-type-0-hd-director-talks-about-game-development-future-ambitions/
>Actually, my idea is that we don’t care about being a RPG anymore.
THEY'RE NOT THINKING.
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>>321629618
Man, the countryside must smell like shit when those things take a dump
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>>321629623
>Actually, my idea is that we don’t care about being a RPG anymore.


He never said this, that is the interview saying that, not Tabata

Tabata has outright on multiple occasions stated XV is an Action RPG

You can again, do MORE with Noctis than you can any other FF PARTY

XV is an Action RPG with full actions in real time, combos, parries, aerial combat, weapon switching, breakining enemy body parts etc, not a menu based game where all you do is pick words from a list

You can objectively do more with Noctis than you can the entire FF7 party


"Playable character" in a turn based game is not the same fucking thing as a playable character in an Action RPG, stop acting like they are the same thing when they aren't.
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>>321629618
I see 4 health bars, why is everyone saying "one playable character"
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>>321627998
That, makes way more sense though. It's almost sensible that something like this would exist in that world in the outskirts of Midgar.
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>>321629963
You control Noctis directly while the other there you give command to from a menu

People don't get that Noctis can only do the things he can because of his position and the gameplay is built around him and his Action RPG playstyle, while the other three members are there to help him in other ways so you give them commands from a menu

People act like this is "one playable character" just because only Noctis has the Action RPG playstyle


Also they don't seem to realize that Noctis alone can do more than literally every other FF party to date, but they keep spouting this "le one player" meme because they don't understand what control actually is and that it is completely different between an Action RPG and a turn based menu game.
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>browsing ff7 concept art
>concept art for Cetra is literally a black mage
>the model was so small on my tv I could barely make it out when I was playing
>mfw I didn't know cetra=black mages for more than 15 years after completing the game
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>>321625376
I never thought about it this way, that is a pretty good explanation.
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>>321629481
I prefer playing as different character more than one character with different weapons. I find it more interesting.
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>>321629885
>He never said this, that is the interview saying that, not Tabata
Indeed. He agreed, though.

More you can do or not, it's one character. In a game that's known for representing the JRPG genre. Mainline. That's just stupid.

They literally downgraded the amount of characters since getting it right in FFXIII.
Ended up with Mary Sue and Gary Stu as the protagonists of LR and XV respectively. It's not that I dislike Lightning but seriously now.
They even planned to implement character switching between all four but scrapped that idea and gave Noctis everything and made another Kirito.

>>321629963
You can't control the other 3.
>>321630326
>what's Type-0
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>>321630608
Different weapons make him play with different playstyes

Using lances makes him Dragoon style

Using guns makes him gunner style

Using different kinds of swords all make him different styles

etc

It's the game design equivalent of character switching but rolled into weapon switching to give true range and diversity of playstyles for Noctis
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>>321630506
can you guys rec an rpg I can emulate for someone who gets really excited with this pic
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>>321627012
wait where's uranus?
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>>321628095
Actually got a audible laugh out of me.
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>>321630790
But if I don't like noctis then none of that matters. Meanwhile if you make each style a different character and I don't like one of them, I can just not play as him.
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>>321630692
>He agreed, though.
He was being polite, Tabta again never said that, and has again on multiple occasions stated XV is an Action RPG and that it does focus on core players

>it's one character.
Irrelevant, you can do more with Noctis and that is what matters, every weapon changes his playstyle, FF is a series based on change for the sake of change, in XV the gameplay is built around a lore and characters playstyle, and that playstyle has the full range of an entire FF party rolled into one character, it doesn't matter that it is one character because the game design allows you to change playstyles with that character, making your entire complaint meaningless, you just come off as superficial and shallow

>They literally downgraded the amount of characters since getting it right in FFXIII.
AGAIN FUCKING WRONG

Noctis can DO MORE THAN ANY OTHER FF PARTY

In FF13 you still just pick commands from a menu, you can't do anything different than another character, everyone inputs and plays the same because it's just menu commands, same as any other FF

In XV the game design for Noctis allows you to do more with one character than you can an ENTIRE FUCKING PARTY

Do you not realize that means not only is there more freedom in XV with Noctis alone but that it already outclasses the older FFs, so that your definition of "control" does not even making any sense, because control in an Action RPG is not the same thing as "control" in a turn based menu game

Character Switching was toyed with but dropped in favour of expanding and better realizing Noctis's playstyle and staying true to his character and focus, the other characters you give commands to from a menu and they have a Gambit like system from FF12 on them, you can change their commands from a menu at any time during battle by bringing up the menu to give them commands, while you go off doing the fully free Action RPG playstyle of Noctis, it is objectively the most freedom FF ever has had
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>>321625391
>>321625664
>>321627289
Holy shit, this thread is gold. My sides have dematerialized
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>>321630506
Without remembering the context, a lot of those monster designs really look like shit. Christ, I don't even remember where you fought the motorized triceratops. I know it's not the motorcycle highway boss. I would not look forward to any of these enemies coming back.
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>>321627813
>how could everything go so wrong after 10?
Are you actually implying that FFXI isn't the best looking FF game?
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>>321629474
>>whys that? FFXV has an open map thats connected to large cities.
>that's an mmo
Not only is FFXV not an mmo, both of the FF mmos that DO exist don't have open worlds
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>>321630692
And on the subject of Type-0, that has 14 characters with 3 in a party, all of whom only have ONE weapon each

Each character themselves in Type-0 is basically equivalent to one weapon itself, one specific set of animations for that weapon

In XV Noctis has manual weapon switching and one weapon in XV already can do more than an entire character in Type-0

Type-0 only has ground combo for one character and three other inputs, times that by three and total you have only 3 different combos and 9 total other commands among the three switchable characters

In XV you have Noctis with 4 weapons you manually switch between, each weapon has their own level, stats, attributes, playstyle, moveset etc

So for each you have ground combo, extended ground combo, finisher, parries, counters, then aerial combo, extended aerial combo, and you times that by 4 for all of them, and then ad on phantom sword abilities, dodge rolls, perfect guards, jumping, platforming, breaking enemy body parts, summons, magic spells, list menus that you can bring up to input even more commands from abilities, magic, items etc

So you can already do more with Noctis and his weapon switching than you can in Type-0
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>>321631356
they're all brilliant
the only one I'm not very fond of is the ghost-ship, rather generic in a bad way and not really fitting with the game
but it was still fun the first time I fought him in that underwater hallway when you go to the submarine mission and suddenly this motherfucker pops up
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>>321631454
dude we fucking get it shut the fuck up already
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>>321631240
All the other three members could only do things that Noctis can already do but better, as well as Noctis being able to do even more on top of that

Gladio could use great swords and melee and that's it, Noctis can already do that too

Prompto could use guns only, Noctis can already do that too

Ignis could use knives, long swords and magic spells and thats it, Noctis can already do that too and better

And ad on that all the weapons in the game, all the magic in the game, all the summons in the game, phantom sword abilities, all the individual weapon abilities in the game onto Noctis

From a game design perspective it is better this way, because it allows them to better realize Noctis's potential, while also giving the other members a menu for commands so that they have menu based inputs similar to in FF12
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>>321631398
every FF after 10 is fucking trash, i didn't even play 11 but a fucking MMO as a main game?
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>>321631790
>i didn't even play 11
opinion disregarded
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>>321631790
Some would argue FF11 was the best FF game of all time. But then again I don't know why I would try to argue with somebody who complains about games they haven't played.
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>>321631747
But if I don't like Noctis none of that matters. You're missing the point I've been trying to make for several posts now.

I find a variety of CHARACTERS more interesting.
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>>321631747
You didn't even respond to his concern. If he doesn't like Noctis why should he be forced to play with him? Since you're using FFXII as an example, I will too. Most people I know dumped Vaan as early as possible so they could play as someone else because they simply didn't like Vaan. Why shouldn't that be possible?
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>>321631253
>>321631454
>>321631747
>stated XV is an Action RPG
Of course he did, it's officially that.

>HE CAN DO MORE HE CAN DO MORE
SHUT THE FUCK UP, RETARD.
It doesn't matter what he can do. What matters is that you're forced to play as this fucking Kirito.and don't get to choose in an mainline game of the iconic JRPG series.
Focusing on one character in such games is not a good thing ever, no matter how much that main character can do.

Are you seriously fucking shilling right now or something? Long posts of weak excuses like they're coming from the devs themselves. I feel like you're trying really hard to sell me XV and not just arguing about it.
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>>321631895
not coming to his defense (or bashing FF11) in any capacity here but
>having to sample shit to know it tastes bad
sometimes you can tell what something is before sampling it, stop this meme of "YOU HVN'T TRIED IT YOU DUN KNOW"
ofc if you're a retard you can't really reach conclusions with limited information but not everyone is retarded
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>>321631980
You are talking about a shallow element then.

>>321632025
Except in FF12 the reason you an do that is because Vaan isn't important and all characters input the same through the menu, it is not like there here with XV, in XV the game design is built around Noctis and his powers, that is how it always was, even back in the Versus days it's always been about his weapon switching, summon, magic and warping, as part of the lore it is game over is Noctis dies because he is the one powering the magic abilities, so without Noctis the others would die too, but if you had switching that poses the problem that what happens if Noctis dies if you were say playing as Ignis, you would get a game over, that was a problem that would have already restrained the others more than they already were lesser versions of Noctis, that is why they decided to better realize Noctis's playstyle while the other members now have you input their commands from a menu, that is why they are calling XVs system AXB, Active Cross Battle, it's a cross between two playstyles, one Action RPG for Noctis and one menu commands for the other three members.

It's not as simple as you are trying to make it out to be.
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>>321625061
Do you know that?
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>>321631356
I think the triceratank was near zachs village
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>>321632249
omfg, you're still talking about gameplay this isn't what people are concerned with
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>>321632193
That's bullshit though. There are plenty of games that look fucking awful or stupid that turn out to be good. Comparing video games, a complex plethora of interlocking sensory components, to shit, a substance that we have evolved to recognize as poison, is simply foolhardy in itself.
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>>321632249
>it is not like there here with XV, in XV the game design is built around Noctis and his powers
Which is THE bad thing.
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Someone probably doodled it at the office and thought 'yes, this needs to go into the game'.
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>>321632332
indeed, it's in the destroyed gongaga reactor
anyone who maxed the game will know it well because that's where you farm the strength sources
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>>321624784
The real question is how are they going to pull off wacky monsters like this in the remake?
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>>321632117
>, it's officially that.
It is that by the very foundation.

>It doesn't matter what he can do.
Yes it does, that is literally all that matters, the game design allows you to do more with Noctis than any other FF party, therefore you have more freedom than any other FF before it.

>What matters is that you're forced to play as this fucking Kirito.
>lemary sue memeXD
Yeah nah fuck off, Noctis and Regis both have these powers, Regis dies early on in the game which is why Noctis is the last one alive with these powers

>and don't get to choose in an mainline game of the iconic JRPG series.
AGAIN HOLY FUCKING SHIT I'VE ALREADY EXPLAINED THIS SHIT TO YOU SO MANY TIMES

CONTROL IN AN ACTION RPG IS NOT THE SAME THING AS IN A FUCKING MENU BASED GAME

>Focusing on one character in such games is not a good thing ever, no matter how much that main character can do.
See above you clueless faggot

You seriously have no fucking clue what you are even trying to argue and honestly think control in a turn based menu game is in any way equivalent to a full fledged Action RPG

You objecitvley have more control in an Action RPG, therefore the game design is different, what constitutes as "control" in an Action RPG is not the same thing as what "control" in a turn based RPG is, you barely even have "control" in a turn based RPG at that, you input one command for one character then are forced off onto the next character over and over forever, that is an extreme restriction with all you are doing is picking one word from a menu and then an animation plays out

Stop, just fucking stop acting as if you know what control even is.
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>implying this doesn't exist in real life
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>>321632431
The real question is how are so many faggots lacking in imagination to such an extent that they ask dumb questions?
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>>321632249
Calling characters a shallow element in Final Fantasy is kind of dumb. Granted not every Final Fantasy is character driven, but a diverse set of characters has been one of the series strongest assets at times.

And calling something that entertains me shallow when we are talking about an entertainment product feels like a shithead thing to do.
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>>321626574
slums are one of many places you find houses.

this one just happens to be alive.

the hellhouse is probably based on the baba yaga house though, which itself can walk and has chicken legs. it shows up in other FF's as well.
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>>321632524
Imaginative cartoony monsters kind of clash with the relatively realistic aesthetic the remake is going for, dumb fuck.
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>>321632340
This is inherently about the gameplay because the game is built around Noctis's playstyle to begin with.
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>hey boss, I just came up with a great idea
>what is it, I hope you're not drunk again
>what if we made a monster that's a house
>how would that work?
>let's give the house giant claws and feet
>brilliant, you're promoted

I like it
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>>321632367
That isn't a bad thing, that is actually a good thing because it now means we are getting a character more fleshed out than any other FF character has ever been.
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>>321632561
Except this is purely about what the character looks like, which is shallow and superficial.
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there's so much fun stuff that just won't work or feel extremely out of place in the remake with its boring realistic approach
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>>321632645
FUCKING HELL YOU JUST DONT GET IT. STOP FUCKING SHILLING.
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>>321632597
I don't know man, Cloud is still wielding a sword as large as he is and Barret has a gun for an arm. You're going to be running around with a red tiger and a robot cat that pilots a different robot. I don't think it will clash that badly.
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>>321632804
Not really.
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I genuinely think we'll just get shinra grunts in Midgar at least. Quirky monsters are probably gone.

What really terrifies me is the potential loss of the battle/boss music. If fights are now real time and don't require any kind of transition, then Let the Battles Begin and Fight On may give way to area themes. And that would suck.
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>>321632796
A character is more than just what they look like. It's their attitude, their personality, their beliefs, the weight with which they move at, their strengths and weaknesses, and yes their appearance (which is more than just their outfits but also their stance and how they hold themselves) and their fighting style.

I personally have nothing against Noctis, but his character doesn't interest me. I would still play as him now and again, but if they just gave him the teleporting sword fighting style and let me play as other characters with different styles I would enjoy it more.
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>>321632343
i can understand that, but if a saga is a JRPG then don't make a Maingame be a fucking MMO
make a spinoff for that
instead of FF11 make it FF online
problem fucking solved
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>>321632723
>So we just got an update from the guys over at Junon. Apparently the dead bodies down there have been mutating into skeletons with pirate ships for asses. Shouldn't we like...do something?
>Nah we have a bunch of 2nd Class SOLDIERS posted there. Just keep them on the Underwater bridge leading to the reactor. It's like free labor.
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>>321631453
>Not only is FFXV not an mmo, both of the FF mmos that DO exist don't have open worlds

Because they were held back by consoles. XI could have done so much more if it wasn't for that fucking PS2 version. Same with ARR, the PS3 is crippling the game something fierce. Diadem is unplayable on the console.
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>>321632998
Doubtful. Even in Kingdom Hearts the music changes from field music to battle music on the fly and that game is from 2002.
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>>321632804
Mr. Dolphin is so totally gone.
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>>321633157
>XI could have done so much more if it wasn't for that fucking PS2 version.
The ps2 version is the reason it's the most profitable FF ever.
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>>321632737
What we are seeing here folks is the rebirth of Lightning fags.

He's not more fleshed out as a character just because he has more magic powers than other characters. And even then, how is he more fleshed out than any other RPG character that can use multiple fighting styles?
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>>321633157
also
>Diadem is unplayable on the console.
based consoles holding you back from that shitty ass content
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>>321632479
>Yeah nah fuck off, Noctis and Regis both have these powers, Regis dies early on in the game which is why Noctis is the last one alive with these powers
Yeah nah fuck off, it literally doesn't fucking matter at all. Generic as fuck male character with generic black hair in generic black clothes with some special power. The "special power" just completed the image. Again, I don't particularly dislike Noctis either.

>GAMEPLAY GAMEPLAY GAMEPLAY NOCTIS ISN'T ALLOWED TO DIE BECAUSE HE'S THE CHOSEN ONE
And this is where the problem lies.
It actually can be (but shouldn't need to be in the first place, still) solved by just making Noctis stay unconscious instead of dead, not a big deal.

Type-0 had character switching. It worked. There's no reason for it not to. They could distribute the play styles between all characters which would be much better.

>>321632737
>it now means we are getting a character more fleshed out
No, it doesn't. It doesn't mean shit.
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>>321633058
But the problem is relative, since some people don't think it's a problem.
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>>321627629
Sephiroth took control of her body and chopped his/her way out of the lab. They let the heroes out so they could manipulate Cloud later on.
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>>321632804
Fuck off! There's no way they'll remove the snowboarding mini game, is there? NO, there isn't!
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>>321633058
The entire point is that it's a mainline quality game in an mmo.
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I caved in and bought the PS4 version even though i've finished it multiple times on PS1/PS3.

This led me to hooking up my PS2 and buying Dirge of Cerberus for the first time.

What the fuck is this game? Why is it such an unresponsive piece of shit? Why do I press the shoot button and Vincent just stands there snacking on bullets?
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>>321633513
I really hated it.
I wouldn't want them to remove it but I hated it.
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>>321630826
mother 2 and 3
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>>321633482
>They let the heroes out so they could manipulate Cloud later on.
This one is iffy. Sephiroth using a shapeshifted limb of Jenova is definitely true, Jenova needs every piece of her for the Reunion and Shinra keeping her body locked up is a no no. But in on the ship to Costa Del Sol Sephiroth couldn't even remember who Cloud was. If Sephiroth really did let Cloud out of prison then either it was an accident or a subconscious act. Personally I think it was an accident, something he did as he murdered the guard there.
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>>321633513
I actually think it's likely something like this will make it into the remake but only ONE thing
kind of like "token silly thing from the original as a throwback"
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>>321633513
This is one of the things I'm sure will be in the remake.
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>>321633482
>>321633661
Sephiroth opened Cloud's cell while he was controlling Jenova so he could proceed to the reunion like the rest of the clones.
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>>321633661
Are we sure Sephiroth was actually confused, though? The game's translation is never trust worthy.

Any glorious nipponeses in the house?
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>>321633914
Yes but then you have to explain why Sephiroth didn't know who Cloud was on the ship. he probably let Cloud out unintentionally while he was killing the guard.
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>>321633998
He didn't care who Cloud was. Cloud was a clone with Jenova cells and Sephiroth wanted to perform the reunion therefore freeing Cloud and allowing him to participate was natural.
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>>321632490
Yes, we must stop that man. He really is a shit.
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Is there a non-faggot way (kotr+mime and lucky seven) to defeat Ruby Weapon? I already maximized my stats, but I can barely scratch it.
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Hades spam. Ruby is susceptible to stun locking.
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Reminder that if FFXV is anything like Crisis Core it will have worse gameplay than a PS1 JRPG from 1997. That is all.
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>>321630826

ff7
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>>321634529
Reminder that it's nothing like Crisis Core.
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>>321634614
As much as I want to believe you it's from the same director.
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>>321631747
I wish you can change characters and/or play local multiplayer like a mix of Final Fantasy Type-0 and LEGO Star Wars.
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It's just a mimic pretending to be a house.
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>>321634713
It's been 8 years. Have you even seen XV's gameplay?
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GOAT enemy design
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>>321634878
I wonder how the remake will handle this.
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>>321626740
World of ruin would be Celes's deathbed dream not Terras.
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>>321632249

So what? Eiko could be the strongest party member on FF9, but it still would be Zidane jumping in the Lifa Tree to save Kuja. FFXV is just badly designed.
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>>321634927
>press x to drop icicle
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>>321634927
You should remember that it's not a direct remake. They'll just remove it or make into something more generic.
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>>321632415

>not duplicating power sources with the Screamers on Mt. Nibel
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>>321635003
I don't think it's fair to call a game badly designed when we haven't played it yet. I would like if there were more playable characters, but we can't really judge it until it comes out.
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>>321634878
Still better than a fucking block of nothing. https://youtu.be/SqWBBZKQxlQ
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>>321634284
No. They're designed just for cheesing.

>yfw everyone that bought the PC/PS4 version can just steamroll the game with no encounters, triple speed and infinite health/limit break.
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Suddenly, shit like this makes a lot more sense.
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>>321624784
Didnt this have lore behind it aswell or is that just my headcanon?
>monster that uses toyhouse like a hermit-crab
>lures children in to eat them

Im convinced with most models and animations though that a lot of them were just things they created while trying to figure out 3D-modeling and particles, since this was the first 3D FF. They the just reused them by randomly shoving them into the game, the game was silly enough at times to allow for it.
I mean theres a snake that throws Atom-bombs at you and I think even a guy in a teapot
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>>321631576
>they're all brilliant
shut the fuck up
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>>321635237

But it still is a bad idea to have a mainline game with only one playable character. It worked for LR because people had 2 games to get used to her.
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>>321635412
>I mean theres a snake that throws Atom-bombs at you
I still wonder why Beta is called Beta. There is no Alpha anywhere.
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>>321635597
Putting it that way makes sense. But still, we can't judge how well designed it is as a game until we see it standing on it's own two feet.
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>>321635721
The Snek that sephiroth killed had Alpha.
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>>321625061
Kill yourself faggot
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>>321634832
Yes, and what I've seen hasn't really impressed considering the time they should have spent working on the game.
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>>321636009
Beside the point. It still doesn't play like CC.
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It seems a lot of enemies were just thrown in , the game had a lot of goofy moments.
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>>321635461
Kill u r self my man.
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>>321626574
Low budget housing courtesy of Shinra
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>>321628095
>Toriyama dies and gets to force us to endure his terrible waifu
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>>321626740
>Tidus
lol
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>>321630506
I'm more curious about the Triceratank and the zombie pirate ship. Where the fuck would something like that come from any why would anyone build it?
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>>321636095
I pray that you're right.
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>>321635328

Well, at least I defeated Emerald Weapon with a low tier team, just using 4x cut, mime, and elixirs.
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>>321636342
Mako monster
Ghosts are real
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>>321625061
I'm sceptical of the Remake aswell but don't underestimate square in that regard
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>>321636342
All me.
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>>321634284
>>321634341
grab that item that puts slow on your enemy and spam that, it drops somewhere north from little ball goblins like the ones you first fight with aerith
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>>321636342
Hojo proposed a plan to force Aeris to have sex with Red XIII so he could breed mutant children to experiment on. They also built a giant fuckoff cannon for no reason and attached it to a city. Twice. Don't underestimate the insanity of Shinra.
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>>321636342
Let's just blame it all on Hojo. Why not? He tried to get a lion to fuck a girl.

And he works for Shinra, who is run by insane people. One of the head people is a furry who roleplays as a robot who rides another robot. Their solution to killing 6 people is to blow up 1/6th of their city.
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>>321634284
He's weak to stop needles. Spam those, drain all his MP with magic hammer and he's seriously gimped.
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https://youtu.be/fp89C15T5kM
Playing FFVII for the first time on my PSP recently was comfy as shit. Recommend me some other comfy FF, I need to catch up.
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>>321636643
About that. AVALANCE is comprised of Barrett, Tifa, Wedge, Biggs, Jessie, and Cloud. Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie were killed in the skirmish for the bomb before Tifa and Cloud even got there. And the remaining 3 escaped before the plate dropped. Which means dropping the Sector 7 plate killed 0 AVALANCHE members.

>Let's drop 1/6th of our entire city to kill 6 people then get the taxpayers to pay for it
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>>321636850
>1/6th

I meant 1/8th
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>>321636850

They did that so they could blame it on Avalanche as well.
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>>321636847
FF10

better grab lots of popcorn, it has more cutscenes than MGS4
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>>321636850
I never even realized that. They literally could have just disarmed the bomb and sent their entire force against the remaining members who were trapped on the pillar.
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>>321637021
How about the older ones?
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>>321637076
just avoid 2 and you're fine
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>>321637076
FF6 is very similar to FF7 in a lot of ways. So similar that fans of the two games have a tendency to bitch at each other non-stop. But it is a nice game. One of my favorites. FFV is less serious than either 6 or 7 but god damn that job system is nice. And every character has their own unique sprite for each job. And there are a lot of jobs. So that's also a good pick.
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VOCAL CORD PARASITES
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>>321637138
I hate how easy it is to blunder into an ass-raping in 2.

>Leave first town
>Going anywhere BUT the proper path leads to an immediate ass raping by high level monsters
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>>321636850
With my childlike imagination I actually saw the dead bodies of the members of avalanche stuck into that pile of molten scrap metal that barrett stands in front of and yells after the sector crashes down.
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>>321636975
That's the thing though, the general populace would've already hated AVALANCHE for blowing up 2 reactors. Which AVALANCHE actually did do. Shinra just destroyed thousands of lives because they don't give a fuck. As far as they care they're going to find the Promised Land sometime soon anyway. Fuck Midgar and everyone in it.
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>>321637138
>>321637179
Thanks. FFVI will be the next one then.
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>>321637343
But wasn't the point of finding the Promised Land to make mad dosh off of it? I can't actually remember.
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>>321637320
Just keep hitting yourself until you level up and you should be fine.
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>>321637394
I will say that one difference between 6 and 7 is that 6 is less "focused" than 7. 7 is primarily focused on Cloud. The POV will change over to other characters as their arcs demand but things will shift back to Cloud inevitably. With 6 though, although technically speaking Terra would be considered the main character, the game is more about the entire cast in general. It doesn't zero in on one character too much, although some characters do get more attention than others. You could argue that Terra is the main character then again you could also argue that Celes is the main character.
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>>321637434

They also wanted to build a new Midgar inside of it.
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>>321637434
That actually was the point. Shinra is so comically insane about money. They literally provide electricity off of the souls of the dead. They fought a war with Wutai, then turned their country into a tourist attraction. Hell any place that doesn't have a Shinra reactor is a shithole.

So actually that was the intent. "Neo-Midgar" was what they were going to call it.
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>>321635363
>you will never fuck Vulkin
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>>321637541
>6 is less "focused" than 7
This sounds great, actually.
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>>321637076
6 is considered the best of the original Nintendo era ones, with 4 also generally getting a lot of love (4 seems to be what Bravely Default draws the most inspiration from). Do either those two first, or do FF1 to appreciate how the series evolved, and then think about 5 and 3 after those. Most of them have DS/3DS remakes now too if you would prefer some 3D models in your life.

2 is the only objectively bad one. Like, 1 is simple and the most basic RPG you can get, but it's fine to see how it all started. 2 just has more problems than positives.
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>>321637728
I respect the effort of 2 though. I can see what they wanted to do, they wanted to try out more realistic approaches to leveling up and world design. For instance you only level up what you actually use, if you use regular attacks then your strength goes up. If you use magic then you intelligence goes up in addition to your proficiency with that particular spell. You moved conversations forward by memorizing key words or showing a specific item you found. I mean they did fuck up but I can appreciate that they tried.
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>>321627998
It looks like a chimp with fuckhuge long arms
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>>321626740
calm down man, it's just a theory
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>>321637916
A GAYM THEORY
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>>321637573
>>321637619
But why? Money literally has no meaning that they don't give it. They rule the entire fucking world.
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>>321637716
Well if you are really going to do 6 then I will give one tip since I actually missed this on my first run. Spoiler in case you want to do it completely blind.

When escaping the floating island wait for Shadow
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>>321637728
>>321637893
2 is just Elder Scrolls: Final Fantasy
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>>321637912
Ruby Weapon's rebellious bastard son
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>>321630506
Looking forward to seeing the swimsuit babe in hd
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>>321637952
Because they're insane. Like seriously they are comically insane. Do you not realize that these fuckers found a corpse in a tomb, deduced that it was a Cetra (which Dr. Gast was fucking wrong about), and decided to inject it into themselves to give themselves superpowers? Vincent loved Lucrecia. I mean he LOVED her. He would've done anything for her. Lucrecia instead fucked Hojo, allowed him to impregnate her, so that Hojo could inject the unborn fetus with alien DNA and create a superbaby. That baby being Sephiroth. And then when Vincent confronted Hojo about it, he experimented on HIM and turned him into an immortal vampire thing. Shinra gives zero fucks. None.
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>>321637985
Is it something like "go back underwater and pick up that huge materia you left there if you want your endgame, idiot" or something more significant?
Could you give a vague explanation without spoilers?
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>>321624784
Anon you'd be surprised, you'd e surprised anon
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>>321638223
Wait at the very end and let the counter drop until the faggot catches up, otherwise he's gone for good
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>>321638223
As vague as possible there's a part of the game where a character will want to make a heroic sacrifice. Since the normal line of thought is "well characters in JRPGs don't die anyway so I'll just press on." Don't press on. Get to where you gotta go and just wait.
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>>321638349
>>321638378
Thanks, will keep that in mind.
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>>321638192

I still don't understand why they didn't find out Jenova wasn't a Cetra. Did Ifalna just never tell them like she did Gast?
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>>321637893
>I mean they did fuck up but I can appreciate that they tried.
This has been Final Fantasy's entire thing since the very first sequel.
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>>321632804
I still don't know how they are going to keep this in.
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>Shinra makes a house monster that looks just like 7th heaven
>when AVALANCHE is out blowing up shit or whatever get monster to destroy 7th heaven, shinra team cleans up and monster takes its place
>AVALANCHE walk in and get eaten
Why didn't they do this?
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>>321638474
They did, by the time of FF7 they're calling Aeris the Last Ancient. Even Hojo would have seen that their DNA doesn't match up in the slightest and Jenova is just some monster
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>>321638474
That part I can't understand. The only way I can make it make sense in my head is that Gast was in Icicle Town while Hojo was in Nibel. While Hojo was busy fucking Lucrecia, Gast was interviewing Infalna where Infalna told him about Jenova, and WEAPON, and the planet. Hojo unknowingly turns his unborn child into a human/alien hybrid then flies up north to kill Gast. He watches the tape afterwards and realize that Infalna is the only Cetra and Jenova is a shapeshifting alien. So Infalna is kept in Shinra HQ while he monitors Sephiroth because...he's a fucking weirdo.
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How are they going to do Supernova? Will they still have it destroying real life planets?

Sephiroth can cast it multiple times too. How would they explain that?
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>>321638697
>>321627289
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>>321638583
Honey Bee Inn in general is kind of fucked in the head
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>>321638378
>>321638349
>>321637985

I played FF6 for the first time over the course of last month and I fell for this. I was sure Shadow would either survive and appear in the World of Ruin alongside the other cast members, OR his sacrifice was meant to happen.

The timer was what fucked me. I was used to sections like the Opera house where letting the timer run out meant game over. I bolted the fuck out of that collapsing island.

When I realized I had the chance to save Shadow I was already halfway into the World of Ruin.
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I'm loving my new little playthrough of FF7. So many memories coming back again. I did get about halfway through the game in a previous one a few years ago But I haven't fully completed it since the first 2 times I did it when it released. I also replayed MGS a couple of years back. That first playstation era of games and even stuff like zelda OOT and golden eye around the same time was a real special era for games that todays stuff doesn't or isn't able to compete with. Everything is too broken up now, too much gouging and shit going on. The accountants are ruining things.
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>>321634529
but FF7 remakes combat looks like type-zero.
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>>321638930

I feel you, man. I try not to let it get to me because I don't like blaming the modern-game-design boogeyman (as I still enjoy a lot of modern titles) but there's no denying it's different now.

Lots of people complain that this is a pretty dry year for vidya but I'm okay with that. Playing or replaying the classics is where it's at.
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>>321638192
Lucrecia had weird taste in men
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>>321639003
no it doesn't
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>>321638930
I think it's more videogames are a global thing now. Back in 97 videogames were much more niche. So you made games for a specific audience who you knew was going to buy it. Calling people retards. A preteen hitting on a mentally unstable crossdresser. Using a dolphin to infiltrate a government airstrip? A liondog masquerading as a soldier? Getting mugged by duckmen in the slums. You could do shit like that because JRPG audiences like those kinds of silly things. But now you have to think about everyone. A hero with super spikey hair and a fucked up psyche might not appeal to people who are more down to earth and can't suspend their disbelief that far. And there's more of them then there are JRPG fans. So you have to kind of ground your game more so that they may be more attracted to it.

Now I'm just using FF7 as an example. FF7 is a legendary, generation defining game regardless of whether you like it or not. But there's a reason you don't see games like it anymore. For the same reason you don't see games like Ratchet and Clank anymore either.
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>>321629132
Fun fact. This house is actually held up by four cats, who are assaulting you with a house of doom. Go ahead, look that shit up.
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Guys I know a lot of you are excited for FFVIIr, and I understand why. We've been asking for it for years.

But with AAA games being geared for profit lately (retarded fresh out of school code moneys laid on the cheap, complicated or non standard ideas being axed, ease of development prioritized over innovation, etc) and the content Square has put out lately (Lightning),I am more than willing to say this:

You are 100% delusional if you think FFVIIr will be good/won't have 75% of the stuff that was awesome in the original cut out. That's all there is to it. So please reign in your optimism, refuse to pre order, and maybe even pirate the fucker to see if its actually any good before you rush out and give positive wallet votes. Thanks.
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>>321639132
Lucrecia was all about SCIENCE!

Love or other soppy shit like that didnt enter into it.
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>>321639178
They are both real-time ATB combat.I don't think it will be another combat so much.
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>>321634529

>that pic

*unzips dick*
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>>321638756
What was the Honey Bee Inn anyway? Some kind of whore house? Why were there buff weightlifters working there? I don't understand.
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>>321634878

>1 million years in blender
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>>321639569
>Some kind of whore house?
Yes.
>Why were there bodybuilders there?
Men can be whores too.
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>>321639327
I'm actually against the idea of spending so much resources on a remake.
I know that Square does completely different stuff now but I'm fine with it, from time to time, as long as it stays original.
>>321639520
Type-0 is pure action, you just assign skills and one item for quick use. VIIR has some menu for that.
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>>321639569
Honey Bee services all genders of any sexual preference. Hopefully that answers your question.
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>>321639569
It was just a place of general degeneracy and debauchery.
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>>321639381
She'd probably fuck post-experiment Vincent just to see what the babies would be like

>tfw no cute HELLMASKER daughter
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>>321639520
Kind of confused as to why summon is an option that early.
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>>321636342
Mechadinos, new weapons project.
I mean come on, this is the fucking head of Weapons Development, you just know half the budget went on cocaine.
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>>321639780
Probably just a placeholder
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>>321639760
Vincent's Limit Breaks are one of the things that Im looking forward to the most in the Remake.
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>>321639760
>you will never have a crazy scientist girlfriend who will let you casually impregnate her
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>>321639825
I hope they actually let you control him this time.
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>>321639780
Just a placeholder. That entire Battle Scene is just something for the Trailer.

For starters, Cloud and Barrat never battled Shinra troops together after bombing the first or second reactors. 1st one had Cloud fight them on his own and then escape onto the train where AVALANCE was waiting, 2nd one had Cloud fall into the slums.
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>giant megalopolis larger than any other city in the world
>small, insignificant podunk town
>chocobo ranch
>naval harbour with a giant gun
>that connects only to a holiday resort town

How did Midgar survive. How did any of this work. How did the world function in any capacity.
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>>321639780
Lightning summon as a preorder bonus
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>>321639878
Even if they dont it will be awesome to see him going nuts as Chaos next to you whilst you fight.
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>>321639916
>How did Midgar survive

It didnt.

Its growth was entirely down to Shin-ra and their exploitaiton of Mako. It experienced crazy quick growth that was in no way sustainable and then died out as quickly as it built up
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>>321639916
A better question is how did Midgar START? Where the fuck did all those raw materials come from?
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>>321639916
I am not disagreeing with you entirely, but Ancient Rome/Italy and New York City/New York are pretty good examples as to how a power house economy can sustain a bunch of shit that shouldn't exist outside said city. They are also good examples as to how a huge metropolis can be a giant fucking drain on a bunch of shit outside said city, depending on the time era.

A better question is where the fuck is all the ariable farmland?
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>>321639118

Yeah I didn't mean to shit on everything new either. Some stuff that came after as technology moved on has been awesome. Stuff like a few of the older mmo's have given me experiences I will never forget too, even if some of the newest ones do seem to be beating the dead horse. Some of the modern 3D RPG's and openworld games are great too. TES and fallout, witcher, stalker, that kind of stuff.

But yeah. The audiences are much bigger now and while there was a lot of shit even back then, there's the same percentage now, which equals 10 times the amount of shit to wade through. And a hell of a lot more marketing for it.
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>>321624784
they'll just make it more realistic.
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>>321640081
Maybe it started out as a shithole which grew (hence the slums) then they found out about Mako energy and decided just to build on top of that. As for resources, idk probably took some from Corel or something.
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>>321624905
the lore deepens
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>>321624784
Shinra spy house. FFVII is very cartoony, it's not too far fetched.
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>>321638021
underrated post
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>>321639916
By literally sucking the life out of its surrounding area. Both physically and metaphorically.

The area surrounding Midgar is a barren, diseased wasetland that only Midgar Zoloms could enhabit. It also sucked in people from the surrounding areas who were looking for some kind of work.

Hell, just look at places like Rio De Janeiro or Sao Paolo to see what happens when the only place people within 500 miles can even hope to get a job is in the city.
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>>321625061
This is why realism is bad.
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Comfy songs from FFVII?
https://youtu.be/1wWLaSp-n6k
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>>321630506
Can't wait to see Touch Me in HD.
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>>321640306
>FUCK YOU DAD ILL BE A MOTORCYCLE IF I WANT
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>>321638930
I know what you mean. I do still like modern games and play a lot of them. But often it's a struggle to finish games because I just don't have as much fun. Yet I can go back to ff7, which I did a week ago, or other games from 15-20 years ago and play through them non stop. I don't know if it's just nostalgia or if games really were better back then. I agree with >>321639118 and kind of enjoy dry spells (although this year had witcher, mgs, and bloodborne) because it gives me time to go back and play ps1, n64, and gamecube games. I should really just chill and not buy as many games that I never end up playing much of. Steam sales make it too easy though
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>>321633287
This guy gets it. FFXV will be shit.
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>>321637912
______________________HE
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>>321640412
>>321636847
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>>321638192
>>321639132
She wanted the Ph.-D.
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>>321640789
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As someone who enjoyed Crisis Core despite its retarded subplot: Is Dirge of Cerberus worth playing?
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>>321640574
I like to put it this way:

Video games now are to video games pre-360/PS3 as Jin-Roh is to really well done modern CG animation. That is to say, they lack "soul." I think it has to do with the continued growth of most major game devs. When you have hundreds of people working on a game, it's like beuracracy in action. The soul of the game becomes disjointed through apathy, disagreement, and mutual desire to make money with employment.
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>>321641174
I found DoC to be really fun despite fully acknowledging its gameplay to be pretty shit.

The plot is silly but not bad. If you are still hankering for something FF7 related then go for it.
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>>321627998
I wanna see that in the remake. Will probably look metal as fuck.
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>no Honeybee Inn because it's a brothel
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>>321639520
Where is the ATB in Type zero? i dont see something like that
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>>321631453
Neither XI or XIV have open worlds. Everything is zoned. XIV 1.0 had a much more open design but it was scrapped for the redo.
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If Cetra looked like black mages, are tonberrys their vengeful ghosts?
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>>321641605
Disregard, I'm retarded.
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>>321631790
You wouldn't have made it past valkurm dunes anyway you casual filth
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>>321634713
You know there's a demo, right? People have played it. It's nothing like Crisis Core. It's a shitty Dragon's Dogma clone.
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>>321641259
I can get behind that. With hitting true mainstream, the mentality behind games seems to have shifted
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>>321642167
Yeah. Although I didn't mention I think another part of it is that we're just running out of cool permutations for vidja. Or the idea well is running out. Or however you want to phrase it. Nothing new under the sun and what not.
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>>321641174
Emulate it, and make sure it's the NA version you're playing. The Jap and Pal versions have severe gameplay problems that the NA version fixed
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>>321642695
That's probably why the indie surge rose up a few years ago. Looking at old games like meat boy, limbo, bastion, and limbo. Those games and more all had that soul feel, like they were created by people sick of the corporate feel of games. Unfortunately the popularity of it and steam opening their flood gates made room for a lot of garbage out there. I'm barely willing to try new indie stuff just because how much shit is out there
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>>321641908
Well it's certainly progress.
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Posting best track of the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMvHTlWyxH0
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>>321643164
And its Crisis Core version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWRAEnayg3c
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>>321643071
Indies gotta make a buck too, Anon. Admittedly there's always been a slew of indieshit, but it was appropriately freeware before the dawn of mobile gaming and Steam Greenlight. Cave Story is also the ultimate testiment to what love and dedication can do where money cannot.
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>>321643302
wow this is like tor lundvall embracing the digital age and deciding to remake the FFVII soundtack on a 5$ budget
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>>321626476
>Livestream
>All mako energy is actually just pewdiepie and camwhores
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>>321643302
I hated that this version didn't have the xylophone part or whatever instrument it is. I kept waiting for it but it never came.
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>>321639965
Why are they shilling lightning
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>>321644082
Well the Lifestream is the aggregate of all life and memory so when they die yes they do become a part of the planet. Maybe materia will be produced from their souls and some guy can use his life energy to become really good at making annoying Youtube videos.
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>>321644081
That remade version is pretty good though, not as great as the original but good in its own way

your comment would apply more to this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaxeb-qt2lU
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I hope they don't fuck up the J-E-N-O-V-A song. By far my favorite song in the game.
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>/v/ would make turn based rpg in 2thousandfuckingfifteen

And you wonder why everyone always rejects all your ideas.

You are like living and walking bankruptcy elementals.
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>>321644706
>your comment would apply more to this shit
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaxeb-qt2lU [Embed]
mmm but this doesn't sound anything like tor lundvall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URHyr7ARD44
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>>321636850
Overpopulation was a problem anyways.
This way you cut the population AND you also create new jobs through the rebuilding project.
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>>321645131
>turn based rpgs are outdated
>yet Persona 5 is one of the most highly anticipated games right now
Every time.
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>>321645131
Where the fuck did you come from

make your own bait thread, nobody is having this discussion here right now
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>>321645258
Franky I didn't even know who the hell Tor Lundvall is, I just thought you were trying to say "this sounds like shit" in a very pseudo-intellectual way

I can kinda hear the parallels now though, interesting
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>>321645297
Overpopulation? If you don't live in Midgar or Junon then your town consists of like 13 people.
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>FFVII gets remade with all the silly stuff taken out
>Reinforces the idea of Cloud being emo among people too casual to play the original
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>>321645304
And personas never make even 1/10th of what Call of Duty and etc reel in.
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>>321624784
Its a Were-house nigger. Don't you get puns?
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>>321646176
>Cloud in Dissidia and Kingdom Hearts 1
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>>321626317
>High quality mini spell
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>>321630835
Your dad destroyed Uranus.
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>>321630835
You can't expect ALL planets to be lined up...
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>>321624784
>House slams into you
>only 8 damage
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>>321646176
DoC had stealth missions with Cait Sith. CC had Zack dancing with a Cactaur and fighting scuba divers in his swimming trunks with a parasol. SE hasn't completely lost their sense of humor when it comes to FFVII.
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>>321639520

>ATTACK
>Attack with equipped weapon

Really?
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>>321646248
Employing people who think like you is why Square-Enix went to shit.
Reaching for the CoD audience is literally what they said with FFXIII
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Isn't it just a bunch of Death Walls having a Bukkake with whoever walks inside?
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>>321631356
>>321636342
You have to remember, the Lifestream is also creating monsters and shit to kill people.
Plus, Hojo is probably creating some of these from spare parts and nearby monsters. Cost effectiveness and whatnot.
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>>321627012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TABVw2iB7a0
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>>321630506
I see no problem with frog, squirel, whatever that ghost with the big mouth is, swimsuit babe that lives in the artic, Fluttershy, basketball, penguin, kite monster, nor triceratops tank.
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>>321646712
Its formica you can go right through that
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>all realistic and serious Barret
>fighting with a boxing glove

I really hope they don't fuck it up weapon switching on the remake.
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>>321639780

Just wanna emphasize that the original FFVII demos had Aeris and the Leviathan summon all the way back at the bombing mission.
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>>321625103
this
as someone whos been lurking these threads for almost a week tryin to figure out what this game is like as i have never played it, all i hear about the stuff like this just makes me feel like it should be axed
no one needs or wants transmysogynist bullshit and retarded creature designs but you guys seem intent on keeping such random and pointless side quests and poor designs. i mean look at op pic that is retarded
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>>321624784

Literally just started the game for the first time and got up to him. I beat him but died to random enemies after because I didn't think normal enemies would do that much damage that fast.

Is there any missable shit or things I should know?
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The social situation has changed, all.

You know what to expect.
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>>321640113
>>321639916
Remember, there are other cities and towns that we didn't see in FF7, standalone.
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>>321647356
can you just shoot yourself in the head please
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>>321647381
just play the game without any outside help or influence, you can worry about missable things on your next playthroughs
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>>321624905
>Upset your housefu by constantly getting home late from work
>Housefu thinks you're cheating on her
>Locks you inside and gases you to death so you'll be inside her forever
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>>321645304
And it is going to sell less than fucking Lightning Returns
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>>321647381
A useful tactic is to put everyone in the back row and buy grenades. Most damage received will halve and anyone without a gun or magic can throw grenades that do good damage at the start. Most random enemies in Midgar only do physical damage and shouldn't be a problem but they can overwhelm you if you're not careful.
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>>321627012
At least it will be shorter in the remake due to no Pluto.
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>>321648106
I smiled
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Will this scene make it into the remake?
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>>321648187
We can hope
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>>321647914
Who cares, we will still be able to play it
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>>321646712
>cloud takes more damage than aeris
how do you fuck up so bad so early
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>>321647236
I can't decide if this was funny or awful
probably a mixture of both
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>>321627012
It's strange Gaia happens to have the exact same planets in its solar system as Earth
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>>321648604
Its a big universe anon a lot can happen, see how it doesn't have Uranus?
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>Square leaves the full Wall Market sequence in the remake, complete with Cloud dressing in drag and getting pounded in the butt
>SJW outcry, Square never does anything funny again
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>>321637021
>tfw there'll never be another FF with comfy levels like 10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGoSAJeVwg8
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I like this thread.
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>>321648270
Who made this comic?
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>>321630506
>guys, we need the most metal enemy
>dinosaurs...
>cars...
>V8 DINOSAURS
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>yfw you see the dino tank in the remake
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>>321624784
How the fuck did this even come into being?
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>>321648862
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2SHDFt8pSc
comfiest shit ever
I had this on repeat when I grinded my shaohao rep on WoW
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>>321649142
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
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>Mako energy is the foundation of all magic
>Magic in FF7 ranges from the standard mundane stuff to full matter alteration
>Mako reactors expose monsters to raw mako energy, which causes them to mutant into fucked up abominations

It's not THAT much of a stretch to think that a Triceratops could have monster truck tires for feet.
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>>321649182
this music still gets my dick hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-15xE5U9BCQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZLV7g1ILvI
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>>321649142
What purpose does this even serve?
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>>321649142
>all this unecessary shit
Whose concept is that
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>>321635363
how adorable
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WHAT THE FUCK ARE THOSE THINGS
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>>321628095
Oh fuck off
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>Materia Keeper
>doesn't keep any materia

They'll fix that, right?
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>>321648523

Aeris is probably on the back row.
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>>321650045
He has materia he just doesn't keep it on him
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>>321650227
It's still misleading, by your logic it should be "Materia Banker" or something
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>>321650045
He's guarding the materia in the mines.
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>>321638756
>tfw you'll never fuck all those sluts, going omnislash on them with your dick
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>>321641646
Tonberries are their dogs you dongus
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>>321633114
>doing the Battle Square
>this fucker comes out as the last fight
>all materia broken.png
>you get thrown out of the battle by Goannai
>0 points earned
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>>321650732
Just press right thumbstick, m8 :^)
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I mean crisis core had a lot of the silly enemies from ff7
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>>321651034
and it looks out of place
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>>321651034
Shitposters wont acknowledge this, anon. Its inconvinient to them.
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>>321650395
Bee keepers don't literally carry the bees with them m8
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>>321630506
I think most of those enemies will be in the remake, many of them were in crisis core.
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>>321624784
Isn't it just a Shinra robot disguised as a house because Shinra makes lots of ridiculous-looking robots for some reason? The Armstrong from Crystal Chronicles was an actual monster with a really messed-up backstory, though.
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The real question is why Hojo, who I presume has a doctorate in at least one kind of science, thought he could breed Red XIII and Aeris.
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>>321651218
Materia isn't bees
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>>321650045
The counter attack material literally falls out of where he was once you kill him.
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>>321650125
IT'S A MOVING HOUSE!
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>>321651159
no more out of place than it did before
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Clearly it's a killer robot disguised as a slum house. They know the terrorists are hiding in the slums, so it's hard to sent in giant hunter-killer robots without alerting their prey. So what better way of dealing with Avalanche than having contractors build some low cost housing for the poor, which also ups their PR, but in reality they sent in another team to build a death robot inside of the cheap, tenement shell?

Sure it'd probably kill any poor people that tried to go inside, but they don't actually care about that.
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>>321651383
>study biology, earn a doctorate
>find some weird creature
>inject its cells into people
>shower them in glowing shit right out of the earth
>it makes superhumans and monsters
>disregard education because nothing makes sense anymore
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>>321624784

it's there to punish you for the shitty map puzzle you can't see because of the view
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>>321651487
>hasn't seen a materia hive
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>>321647356
Yeah, but a "game" you can beat in less than 5 minutes or a game where you press a button to "show condolences" isn't retarded.
Right?!
Just shut the fuck up and go back to your clash of clans, you dipshit!
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>>321627629
>>321633482
You guys are idiots, Sephiroths real body was at the Northern Crater throughout the WHOLE GAME, the Sephiroth we see until then is actually Jenova shapeshift as Sephiroth. Theres a reason why we dont see Jenova whole till the very end, and why he keeps mysteriously vanishing until we meet the real Sephiroth. Hell its even pointed out in the game that Jenova is a fucking shapeshifter.
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>>321651740
Or maybe:
>inject its cells into people
>shower them in glowing shit right out of the earth
>it makes superhumans and monsters
>can now enact all of his bestiality fetishes and people will believe that they have any chance at all to work even though he knows they don't
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>>321648106

Man, fuck you!
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>>321651968
how were those anons disagreeing with this
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>>321651034
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>>321648106
I don't get it
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>>321652368
Super Nova
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>>321651383
Gotta prove or disprove the theory, anon
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>>321651507
I fucking loved that Materia.

>Counter Attack + 2-Hit in a Weapon
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>>321652496
But what about the pluto?
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>>321652368
Mickey shot his dog.
It got rabies and had to be put down.
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>>321652314
>playing Crisis Core
>having a pretty okay time
>added story is actually mostly pretty good outside of Genesis, who got fucking owned in the Danger Roo- I mean Shinra Test Lab, which was nice
>do lots of side content
>still have no idea how to fuse materia and make useful things without consulting a goddamn spreadsheet and fuck that noise, but still have some decent ones by random experimentation
>reach a mission with these fucking robots that shoot stun rockets that inflict Stop and do 30% to 40% health per hit
>die 50 times
>never touch game again
Damn shame.
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Just killed ruby weapon with dazers, megaelixirs, 4x-cut and mime. There is nothing else for me to do.
Also, it is the first time I finished the game after starting it more than 5 times. The last time I played I stopped right before the Weapon attack on Midgar cause my cockatiel bro that was always with me while I played had flew away and i never found it.
It was a fun ride. Now I can complain about the remake with no remorse.
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>>321652606

Don't mess up counter-attack with counter, and to an extent, magic counter.
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>not wanting a deadly house
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>>321652806
The game ends in the northern crater
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>>321652606
>Counter attack/4x Cut/Cover all mastered on Barret in the back row with the missing score equipped
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>>321634284
Spam Dazers you subhuman. After each application you whack him like your life depends on it (it does). Then, when he starts moving again, apply Dazers again.

Obviously, a way to have a fuckton of dazers is to w-item materia duplicate them.
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>>321652621
Because a dipshit "scientist" from NY didn't want pluto to be a planet anymore and now it isn't, while in 1997 it was.
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>>321647381
when you're in something called the train graveyard, steal from this one rare enemy. He always shows up by himself. He has a staff for Aeris that is better than anything you can get for a very long time.

also there will be a moment for you to steal a really good sword for Cloud but that'd be spoilers to tell you how
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>>321624784
fully grown mimic
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>>321653028

Already did it.
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>>321653309
fair do's

now speedrun it, aim for under 9 hours
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>>321653251
>Caring about a weapon for Aeris
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>>321653158

It's me here >>321652806
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>>321653406
Kill emerald now.
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So what the fuck is the deal with Tifa? Did she just play along with Cloud's mindfuckery? She seems like a pretty shitty friend.
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>>321653383
all characters are basically the same in FFVII. You can turn Aeris into a brawler and Barret into a magic user and you'll still curbstomp the game
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GUYS!
Aerith Dies
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>>321630409
...probably because they didn't look like Black Mages is the final game...
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>>321653518

Killed before Ruby Weapon without underwater materia. It took 10 minutes.
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>>321653587
She knows her place and never questions men.
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>>321631356
>fun enemies you will see maybe 5 times throughout a game play are stupid
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>>321647236
HAMBAGAH!
HAMBAGAH!
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>>321647356
>he thinks the cross-dressing part is a side quest
>probably thinks the non-numbered KH games are spin-offs too

please eat a bullet
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>>321653587
She played along as she didnt know how to help him and was worried that telling him the truth would cause his very fragile mind to break.

She coerced him into joing AVALANCHE so that she could keen and eye on him and look after him.
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>>321650930
>=(
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>>321637912
well those type of handle bars are called Ape Hangers.
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Okay, so which FFVII girl WASN'T a slut?
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>>321654064
Tifa is so good.
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>>321654425
None.
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>>321652806
I do this too. I have gotten to disc 2 about 5 times, three twice, and the last time I played I got to Sephiroth and just never played that file again cause I was about to move.
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>>321652689
Neither did I do any side-missions or any smart materia-fusing and I beat the game a week ago

The final boss literally took me 20 minutes to beat though
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>>321654425
Jessie
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>>321654425
Jessie. She was 2pure4life
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>>321654542
what retard drew this, those are galbadia soldiers, not shinra
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>>321654064
Her memory was fucked up as well from when she was almost killed by Sephiroth
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So, about golden chocobos.

The only way to get one "quickly" is to defeat Ruby Weapon and hand the item it drops to Kalm Traveler, right? Otherwise I have to do this breeding shit and race them.
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>>321654425
Tifa was the only pure one. Aerith was a whore and Cloud got some bodybuilder action.
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>>321654425
jessie :'(
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>>321654642
Should fight Minerva. Now that's a fucking boss fight.

Also, that Emerald Weapon cameo spooked me a little.
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>>321654742
no they aren't. those are Shinra troops.
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>>321654903
>Should fight Minerva. Now that's a fucking boss fight.
>Can literally be beaten by throwing money at her for 3 minutes

https://youtu.be/GuiyMdmc52Y?t=246
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>>321633114

Thanks mr skeltal
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>>321655037
She's a woman, what did you expect.
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>>321655196
heh
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>>321654742
Come on son
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>>321654752
No it wasnt.
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>>321654863

Yes. But its not so hard to breed them. Farming to fight Ruby should take more time than breeding a golden chocobo, as you would need to master 2 double cut materia, since you would only have mime on your master command materia, which is a reward from beating emerald weapon.
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You find that enemy exclusively in Midgard slums. Now look at the house, colorful, 'comfy', which is exactly the opposite of what you see in Midgard.
Those houses are the 'ghosts' of what Midgard used to be before it became a grey, industrialized city which is why they never fight you in the zone where Aeris' house is.
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>>321655628
its easy now that everyone know how to breed them correctly and there are tons of online Guides telling how to do it. back in the day when all you knew was to breed a green and blue then breed them to get a black then breed a black with a good regular one that shit took forever.
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>>321655628
Okay, thanks.

As for Battle Square - is there a faster way of making GP aside from the Wonder Catcher? Super Dunk is hard as balls.
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>>321655826
Aeris' house was pretty comfy lookin.
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>>321656174
>which is why they never fight you in the zone where Aeris' house is
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>>321647356

>complaining about transmysogyny
>uses retard as an insult

1/10 obvious bait.
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>>321654863
breeding is actually really easy because people figured out the rng. there should be guides but basically you never have to race, just feed a certain number of greens after a soft reset and you control what pops out.
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>>321656084
buy the permenant pass and constantly enter and exit the area (not the sky tram thing) until you see a dude hanging out by the like house outside the entrance. you can buy GP from him for Gil. its at like a 100 to 10 ratio and I think he stops at 1000 gil.
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>>321656367
You mean the station? I got the perma pass.
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>>321656436
no the gold saucer entrance. just constantly enter and exit the moogle head entrance thing until the guy appears.
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>>321656569
Ah, I get it. Thanks.
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How did everone make enough money for the Greens?
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>>321656084

Get a chocobo, feed it the most expensive green from the chocobo sage and do some racing. You get to choose the reward item or GP.
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>>321631356
>plain girl in a swimsuit
>stupid design
wut
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>>321656436
enter and exit the entrance (circled in blue) and eventually you will see a guy next to the house (circled in yellow)
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>>321656619

Selling mastered All materia for 1,4 millions.
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>>321633513
>a game within a game
>for free
>in current year
Expect the Gold Sauce minigames to be paid DLC bro.
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>>321641503
orange bar is ATB bar
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So who's voice was it that cloud keep hearing?
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>>321657229
His own. Weren't you paying attention?
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>>321657229
Zack's.
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>>321657229
>who's voice was it that cloud keep
Genova.
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>>321633513
The only minigame that will make it is the motorcycle one.
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>>321656750
Nice. I'd never know there's a possibility like this otherwise.
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>Every disk change will be a DLC.
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>>321657160

>get to Gold Saucer
>all minigames are the exact ones from the ps1, including the graphics

Would you hate it or love it?
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>>321657686
I had a blast with those minigames back in the day so I wouldn't mind them looking like 20 years~ ago.
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>>321624940
Not make magic but M E M E M A G I C
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>>321624784
Mako Energy.
Materia.
Technology.

Shit happens.
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This game will bomb harder than the first mission.
you faggots better not keep those high expectations.
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Aeris or Aerith
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>>321658389
Some minigames were a pain in the ass.

>the one where you dress up as a Shinra soldier and take part in a military parade in Junon

I always fucked it up.
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>>321656750
It's important to note that he will never appear on disk 1.
It's only after gold saucer reopens on disk 2 that he will appear.
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>>321658846
Aeris. Aerith sounds like your saying Aeris with a lisp.
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>>321659014
It's whoreslut, not Aeris.
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>>321659014

Calling her Aerith is like calling the series Fainaru Fantajī. It's only "correct" if you have the ridiculous accent of a true Asian person.
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>>321655826
thx for blowing my mind with your great reply fuck
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>>321658884
everyone fucked it up, it's a shit minigame
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>>321655826
Houses can't be ghosts you retard.
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>>321663027
They can. Who are you to decide if a house can't be a ghost?
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>>321638583

they would have to outsource Bioware for that part
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>>321663694
Listen buddy, I am the authority on both houses and ghosts and I'm telling you that ghost houses are metaphysically impossible.
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>>321658846
Aerith.
If you're going to go with Aeris then you should use Sefiros too.
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>>321646712

Must be one of those american cardboard houses
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>>321624784

I LITERALLY FOUGHT THESE FUCKING THINGS FOR THREE HOURS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CLIMB THAT FUCKING PIPE GODFUCKING DAMNIT
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>>321663969
You're not fooling me, ghost house.
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>>321663694
He's a misospiti.
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>>321664124
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I just want to see the remake's Shiva.
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The worst part of FFVII's remake to my feeling is that it will have a proper translation.

The horrible translation (specially the spanish one) is half of what made the game fun for me, can't imagine Barrett without it,
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>>321665514
strong empowered womyn
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>>321664064
Sephiroth = a word

Aerith = not a word
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>renames Aeris to Aerith
>Doesn't rename Barret to Bullet
>Doesn't rename Cloud to Claude
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>>321661504
Ackchullee its the other way around
Japan pronounces erisu cause they cant th
Her official name is Aerith and your nostalgia will never change that
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>>321666497
they fixed 'this guy are sick' in the steam and PS4 versions and it made me a little sad
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>>321667572
>Japan pronounces erisu cause they cant th
hence it should be called Aeris
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>>321668068
>>321667572
Your guys are wrong, is cleary "Alice"
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>>321648187
it will be like this
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>>321639297

>The "secrets" section of Final Fantasy IX Ultimania explains that the legs at the bottom of the Armstrong are cat's legs and that there are four cats holding it up, for a total of sixteen cat's legs.

Shit nigga, thats cute as fuck.
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>>321668068
Should it be Sefiros too?
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>>321666663
>blue hair
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>>321668345

No, it should be セフィロス
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>>321668238
Strong cats.
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It's Aerith.

How can you be so retarded to think otherwise?
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>>321663027
What if they are Ghost Houses not, House Ghosts?
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>>321657229
Minerva
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>>321664064
Why? Sephiroth is an already established word in english.
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>>321653830

That's exactly what I thought of first as well. Glad to see at least one other person here is over the age of 14.
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>>321670149
The word is actuallly sephirot

And dont pretend you knew the word before ffvii
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>>321658884
>you received Grenade
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>>321669430
more like no-ASSerith amirite?
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>>321630506
>using morph on that fucking skel-ship a million times for the underwater materia

Beating the weapons has some ridiculous requirements.
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>>321624784
Internet of things gone out of control.
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>Fegit never took all the toysoldiers to the collapsed section, tissues to the honeybee inn and never said hi to Aerisu's mom and then never visited Aerisu's flowers in the church to get access to the white materia that you can take to the lake where Aerisu was buried where you can break the replica masamune and then throw the materia into the lake in order to re-
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>>321671302
Just use barret and Cait Sith.
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>>321671256
Her butt is just fine.
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>>321624784
>Visual representation of the [FF7 house]
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>>321632490
How can you not post an explanation for that image? It's a paedophile dressed as a school to lure children in for those not in the know.
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>>321671256
Maybe you're just blind.
She definitely has ass.
At least more than another FF girl.
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>>321672039
>Butth
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>>321672275
Mantining.
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>>321670797
of course i didn't. but plenty of other games and books have used it before. Why should my narrow frame of reference be used to establish the translation of a word?
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