>there are people from /v/ still supporting Nintendo
I hope you enjoy your censorship.
>implying anyone bought this gamenone of the guys on the cover are Heracles (no, not Hercules, you plebs)
>>321570176he's a girl:(
>>321570176
Glory of Heracles was okay.
Movement was weird though.
>>321570543
>he
For fuck's sake, her front pic has her shirt clinging to her tits
How could you mistake that for a boy
>>321570478
Heracles is Hercules
>>321570176
>>321570926
oh boy, you don't know what you have unleashed upon yourself.
>>321570926
Get out of here, Roman scum.
>>321570926
>>321570176
>a video game company that makes games for children is censoring risqué content
>20-year-old manchildren throwing a fit over it
>>321570784
It's just /v/'s way of thinking:
>It looks like a girl so it must be a boy!
It's starting to get boring, though.
>>321571450
Why the fuck is this creature using an IV?
>>321570926
Shut the fuck up.
>>321571393
add
>a video game company that has been doing this since the 80's
>yet neckbeards scream treehouse, neo-nintendo, etc.
>>321571690
It's due to her constant need for semen
>>321570926
>Heracles is Hercules
>I have zero knowledge of mythology the post
Its ok when nintendo does it.
>>321571816
back in those days they were kids and didn't know how the content of the games was managed neither they had any way to do something about it , now they are adults and know some of the practices of the industry and in some way can do something about it.
>>321572810post more
>>321572875
Hey, i'm not defending butchered localizations, but Nintendo is aware of this. They expect from you to play their games with your kids, so your kids can become fans. That's the reason behind the family friendly image.
>>321570176
Females should be removed from video games entirely, so i'm fine with this.
>>321570176
>Nintendo censors shit
>Buh buh cancer
>Other company censors shit
>Buh buh it's the gameplay that matters, stop being entitled
It's not ok only when Nintendo does it.
>>321570176
>oh no that butt is slightly exposed
>better cover that tiny space in his skirt with an armor piece
I understand censorship but come the fuck on, that's just completely useless and unnecessary.
>>321573445
>this delusion
Do you have tunnel vision? Do you only come to /v/ for nintendo threads?
>>321573037
>>321570176
This happened because of Tomodachi Life.
You are all to blame. You could have stopped this by showing support. Instead you laughed and postes bait images.
>>321573754
I want torapethat bunny
>>321573754
>>321573037
>>321572810
Who is this bune?
>>321573854
We all did the same thing when European Union strictures demanded that the slot machines be removed from Gen 4 Pokémon games. Mocked the people complaining, that is.
This is the future we chose. And the future isCENSORED.
>>321574224
Hiroshima Nagasaki.
>>321570176
But, for those of us who aren't lonely and sad, how does this change the gameplay?
>all this hiro faggotry
degenerates, all of you.
>>321570176
>There are people who care what clothes video game characters are wearing
>>321575104
I want to rape this bunny desu
keep posting
>>321575104
>Not wanting to throw him onto a bed, tear off his clothes, flip him over onto his knees, hold him by his hair and pound his ass until you shoot your cum into him and hear his quiet moans
What are you, gay?
Hiro-chan is so moe.
>censorship thread #317 gets derailed by spamming Hiro pics
This should happen more often.
is fate stay night?
>>321572875
>I enjoyed the products and grew up with them
>Company continues to do the same thing they have been doing 30+ years
>THEY SHOULD CHANGE HOW THEY RUN THEIR BUSINESS BECAUSE I WANT THE TIDDIE
Don't blame the game companies for the problem of society in the west being against children having access to risque content. Nintendo just continues to do the same thing they have always done so they can keep angry moms off their ass.
Post more Hiro
>>321571393
>censorship can be justified
>>321575578
FUCK, now I want to see moot andSnacksdoubleteaming Hiro
>>321575874
who is this fluid druid
i don't support censorship but nintendo puts out more good games than any other platform that exists at the moment so i'll put up with it
unless they drop this or the region locking i'm only buying JP nintendo consoles though
The nose is not accurate.
>>321576270
Yes? And?
i almost dont now. The reason why I still keep up is for Monster Hunter
>>321576198
Any drawfags here?
>>321575953
>Implying it can't
Nigger everything in society is censored, society functions on censoring the shit parts of human nature and interaction.
Being able to control and keep ourselves from our inhibitions and showing of ideas and actions is the only thing that actually keeps us above animals. And all that shit is censorship.
You wouldn't be able to function without censoring yourself in any society whatsoever
I don't care if the censored thing in question is a shit basement dwelling weeaboo panty quest role playing game I wouldn't even play if I got paid for it. What thing gets censored for whichever reason is not even important.
Censorship should never occur, and never be tolerated where it occurs.
Never.
>>321576756
Have fun saying nigger in the ghetto to uphold your beliefs, if the thought comes to mind gotta say it, otherwise its censorship.
>>321572116
>L-lol you don't know mythology
>doesn't say who Heracles is
nice deflection there you fucking scum, bet you are a shitty mudslime as well
>>321576736
humans are still animals m8
>>321576736
>society functions on censoring the shit parts of human nature
Have you ever allowed yourself the thought that this is precisely the reason why society falls short? Because if you ask me, it is. In a world of perfect honesty, everyone and everything would be much better.
>>321575874
>Him
>>321574273
Thing is, gambling is slightly different to pixels of a part of a butt. Gambling can be dangerous and it's addictive. There is no evidence of any reputable source that shows seeing skin is bad or makes you a rapist or anything.
>>321576931
I'll be the first to admit I have an awful lot of trouble keeping myself from doing that.
>>321576931
But you're forcing him to say what you want him to say because of his 'beliefs' that's closer to censorship than what you suggested.
>>321576931
>have a bit of butt showing in a picture
>literally nothing will happen if it isn't censored
>go into a black ghetto neighbourhood full of gangs
>say nigger
>OMG WHY WAS I ATTACKED CENSORRSHIIIPP
One is stupid and one is a slight part of a butt.
>>321576952
Being able to govern our own thoughts and emotions put us above them, allows us to organize and push limits and goals. Humans are still animals, but censoring ourselves is a huge part of what allows ourselves to operate, even if we hate eachothers guts, and benefit our species as a whole.
Not to say that all censorship is good, but to deny the benefits denies how it has allowed our species to grow and advance. The absolute lowest of the low is bitching about censorship in entertainment mediums though, especially in entertainment mediums with alternatives.
If anything you should fear abundance of information blocking most off from reading small bits of information that isn't even censored, like how they hid Cispa in plain sight inside NASA's budget.
>>321577231
Not him, and I'm actually on your side, but you're incorrect. Japan is actually going through a major crisis of low birth rates and one of the main factors is because a bunch of their young men (and women) are sitting at home masturbating to said pixels.
>>321576736
The thing is that people who care about this tend to be withdrawn vegetables
The concept of delayed gratification is utterly lost on them.
>>321577460
>absolutely nothing will happen if it isn't censored
Obviously you don't remember all the soccer moms that got together and threw temper tantrums and boycotted and shit because there were strippers in GTA. It's basically the same shit, I have been attacked working a game store because we carried mature and AO rated games because "I PLANNED ON BRINGING MY CHILD IN HERE" tier shit.
>>321576692
pls
>>321572116
You're a dummy.
>>321577464
>censorship
>benefits
>>321577715
Yeah and those protests sure did hurt GTA's sales didn't they? Retard
>>321577715
>the soccer moms that got together and threw temper tantrums
Things that I don't care about
>I have been attacked
Things that I don't care about Vol. 2
>>321577715
Dear God, what is wrong with the world?
>>321577532
There is lots of reasons why Japanese birth-rates a low. From low space, to expensive housing, to low wages, to long work hours. People can't afford to have multiple kids. The problem is, women are expected to work just like men and are paid accordingly, which means houses are always priced as if two people are combining their income to buy it. Thus it's expensive and it can't hold multiple kids.
It's fucking stupid.
>>321577789
>Censoring harmful thoughts and ideas to a common goal is not a benefit
Nigger that's what peace treaties are, censoring themselves from being dicks to sign an agreement between societies.Are you implying Germanies efforts to censor Nazi propaganda post WWII didn't help them shift the global perception of their country away from being attributed to the Nazi's as well as quell possible uprisings following the war?
>>321578002
That's why I said "one of". There's also the fact that their old people are stubborn fucks that refuse to die and instead sit around getting older, crazier and racister without contributing to society, so their children are forced to take care of them rather than have children.
>>321578002
>source: I am a Japanese culture expert
Japanese people themselves are identifying the "vegetarian men" crisis, it's not some unfortunate economic thing that's preventing them from procreating, it's choice
>>321577532
>Japan is actually going through a major crisis of low birth rates
>a bunch of their young men (and women) are sitting at home masturbating to said pixels.
Granted that both of these are true, what studies have demonstrated a causal link between them?
>>321577464
>Being able to govern our own thoughts and emotions
What makes you think we are?
>it has allowed our species to grow and advance.
How can you sincerely claim our species has grown and advanced? How are we, from a strictly biological standpoint, better than those who lived during the stone age?
>you should fear abundance of information blocking most off from reading small bits of information
You should fear people with short attention spans.
You have poop for brains.
>>321577970
but the media did... didn't it? I believe thats why is a significant matter (not the same anon).
>>321577832
They did actually, several stores pulled their stock of San Andreas, which was made even worse when selling of the game under the M rating was made illegal due to the inclusion of the partial mission "Hot Coffee"
It cost Rockstar a fuck bunch of money because they had to reprint a fuckload of games without the mission to avoid the AO rating.
You act as if censorship doesn't make financial sense.
>>321578120
>harmful thoughts and ideas
>thoughts
>ideas
>harmful
> Implying I support it
5.3.2 master race here
The only reason I pirated is because I can't wait for a proper fanpatch
The current one has a lot of lipsync issues among other things because with the current exploits it's impossible to replaces files because the game checks the filecount.
Or some shit like that
>>321578484
Well, if trying to shut down everything you disagree with and succeeding in some cases isn't the biggest proof that's a thing, I don't know what is.
>>321578365
You can't prove a causal link in something like that, this shit ain't chemical reactions. But there's strong evidence, and the reasons that >>321578002 is listing are hardly unique to japan.
>>321578365
Google it, bruh. Also, common sense. And like I said, "one of". There are numerous factors behind it, but that's most definitely one of them.
>>321578120
>Are you implying Germanies efforts to censor Nazi propaganda post WWII didn't help them shift the global perception of their country away from being attributed to the Nazi's as well as quell possible uprisings following the war?
yep
>>321578705
>>321578789
so there is no evidence, ok
>>321578602
fug forgot my image
>>321577049
Not when the honest truth is enough to break most people and death becomes a better option.
>>321578120
Italy and Japan didn't do what Germany did and nobody gives a shit about their shenanigans during WWII.
What happened to this thread
>>321578602
>oh man, this game is so niche we can't even market it
>we're gonna make a whole different set of lipsyncing though
Nintendo is acting more like Sega with each passing day. God knows how they would be right now if it wasn't for their hardcore marketing in the past.
>>321578954
>I'm too pig-headed and entitled to look up evidence on my own or listen to reason, so I'm just going to assume you're wrong because you won't spoon-feed me the answers.
How's high school going, newfriend?
>>321570176
What game?
>>321579176
>I don't know what burden of proof is
>entitled
>"just trust me, bruh it's the truth I swear" = "reason"
>>321574796
Not at all.
That's exactly why all these MUH CENSORSHIP threads are fucking retarded. Sure, people want to make it seem like it's all about the principles and freedom of speech and shit like that but they are not fooling anyone, they are just thirsty as fuck.
>all these hardcore neckbeards throwing yet another fit over censorship
It's that time again huh. My fucking screencap folder is getting pretty stocked for that 10hour youtube compilation of all your crying.
>>321575953
>i'm butthurt that i don't get to see an ass shot
>MUH CENSORSHIP
at least be honest
>>321578384
>What makes you think we are?
The actual ability to not say what we think for one, I guess if you are possibly autistic this would be hard to understand.
>How can you sincerely claim our species has grown an advanced?
The unification of people and advancement of a global economy? The distribution of wealth and resources across the globe? Pretty sure that is pretty advanced in comparison to people from the stone age. All thanks to the advancement of culture and society, which is brought about by censoring peoples inhibitions and what they can and cannot say or do to keep the peace needed for society to flourish. Instead of grunting and caving in the skulls of people we dislike, like we used too.
(Also from a biological standpoint there is a lot different in the form and function of the human species from protohumans, such as different cranial structures allowing for more room for parts of the brain associated with critical and advanced thought processes, as well as our innards having changed due to the commonality of cooked or prepared food (which is why our Appendix is useless now))
>You should fear people with short attention spans
Congratulations, because attention spans have nothing to do with reading comprehension, which you so clearly lack.
>>321579331
>>321579345
>>321579381
>I want to be treated like a child for all my life
uh huh
>>321579330
>I can't google
>I don't know how to fact check
>trying to strawman
>/v/ only throws a fit about censorship when it involves something they wish to fap to
>>321579605
It's not on me to substantiate your claims for you.
>>321579619
Not entirely true, but the fappable stuff does get more coverage.
Also, that's what gets censored in the West more than anything else, save Germany and Straya, who cover women in burkas and swap out guns for cake and flowers.
>>321578120
There are two important things to know about Germans for me to refute that argument
1. Germans after WW1 were destitute, humiliated and Hitler promised vengeance, while people in power told them to just shut up and deal with it.
2. Revolutions and uprisings generally a thing you'd expect from Germans as they abide by the rules as long as they can, even if they hate them.
Nazi would never work in Germany today because they're anything but nationalists, are fairly wealthy and don't lust for vengeance currently.
>>321579428
>The unification of people and advancement of a global economy? The distribution of wealth and resources across the globe?
Yay, more romantic bullshit that doesn't exist in the real world.
>protohumans
Stone age people weren't protohumans, idiot.
>>321579574
We're on the internet. You can search for porn at your leisure. All kinds of shit; whatever suits your fancy.
You're not noble for trying to uphold the values of free speech when the issue isn't even about censorship, and when the issue is about a fucking ass-shot no less.
Everything about threads like these are stupid
>>321579619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkUuABNnTC0
>>321579817
>generally a thing
generally AREN'T a thing
>>321579043
Exactly, they didn't do what germany did, you know the huge monolithic empire hungry nazi party that destroyed and took over several neighboring countries and are responsible for attempted homocide? Yeah not exactly the same thing.
The japanese had an easier time recuperating from a negative global opinion due to the damages sustained and the complete deconstruction of their military
>Implying Italy still doesn't have a global opinion of being untrustworthy because of their actions in WWI and WWII
>>321579680
It's not on me to teach you how to do your research for you. Willful ignorance is your own fault. Give a man a fish, anon.
>>321579929
>implying anyone gives a shit about Italy period
>>321579929
Germans aren't just any people desu senpai
>>321579619
>/v/ crying about censorship while posting on a board with word filters
Absolutely hilarious fampai.
>>321579887
>We're on the internet. You can search for porn at your leisure. All kinds of shit; whatever suits your fancy.
This is a retarded argument but I can't find a way articulate the reason why.
>>321579887
And games being censored is good how again?
What is your reason to be here if you hate this anyway?
>>321579887
>You're not noble for trying to uphold the values of free speech
So some freedom of speech is more valuable than another? Seems hypocritical.
>>321579331
>>321579345
Is this "PLEASE Corporations, choose everything for me! Fuck my boi-pussy!" a Millennial thing?
You spend so much time defending soulless entities for free on the internet just so you can have less consumer freedom.
Or is this /v/ contrarian bullshit again.
>>321578461
San Andreas was one of the best selling games of all time you underage fuckstain, Rocksfar always sold GTA on their edginess, the Hot Coffee controversy only increased sales you fucking child
>>321580213
>crying
Who pissed in your brain?
>>321579929
spaghetties are backstabbing fanooks
>>321580350
Not him, but to be fair the issue isn't even really about free speach. It's about game companies viewing their consumers as children who can't handle a little skin without becoming boner-fueled rape machines. I'm not agreeing with him in any way, mind you, guy sounds like a faggot, just saying free speech is the least of our problems.
>>321579012
>the honest truth is enough to break most people
>>321579817
>Romantic bullshit
Except it isn't you retard, the world is more unified today than it ever was prior, it isn't disney tier happily ever after and I never implied it was. Wealth and resources are more readilly available globally than ever before, and the wealth of the general populace across the world is also higher than it has ever been.
>Stone age
>Not Protohumans
The stone age literally consisted of the time in which human like species started using tools AT ALL and Chronicles 3.4 million years. Stone age is exclusively protohumans, can you not into science?
>>321579619
>violence is usually left uncensored in the west
>sex is usually censored in the west
I wonder which of these things westerners would complain about more often, the thing that barely happens at all or the thing that happens all the time hmm gee I just don't know.
>>321579619
>people make threads complaining that bravely second changed an indian into a cowgirl
>dumb fuck censorship apologists jump in accusing them of only caring about tiddies even though that had nothing to do with what people were upset about
>>321580475
The same you did yours probably.
>>321579217
Glory of Heracles. It'sokay-ish.
>>321580692
But anon, both of those things happen all the time.
>>321580294
saw where the thread was going and (unfortunately) took the bait cause reading this shit is infuriating
I don't even know what this game is, but as long as the quote unquote censorship doesn't affect the core gameplay I don't care
There's a HUGE difference between governments censoring media and a game developer removing an ass shot of what I'm assuming is an underage character in what I'm assuming is a localized game
I get more turned on by censorship. Can we make this a before and after English localization thread?
>>321579943
It is on you to back up what you say. Don't make a bunch of claims and then assume people are just going to take it on good faith.
At any rate, google says you're full of shit, so most likely you're spouting facts you heard on 4chan and didn't even do the research yourself before repeating it.
http://theweek.com/articles/453219/everything-need-know-about-japans-population-crisis
The British newspaper The Observer recently caused an international stir by reporting that Japanese youth have lost interest in sex. The sensationalist conclusion was mostly based on a single statistic: a survey that found that 45 percent of women and 25 percent of men ages 16 to 24 said they were not looking to have sex. The article also cited the phrase sekkusu shinai shokogun, or "celibacy syndrome," as if it were a major trend. In reality, more Japanese singles are having sex than in past decades. In 1990, 65 percent of unmarried women and 45 percent of unmarried men had never had sex; today, the figures are 50 percent and 40 percent, respectively. "Of course Japanese have sex," Asian studies professor Jeff Kingston told Bloomberg.com. "If the number of love hotels is any barometer, it seems like many are getting plenty of it."
http://www.childresearch.net/projects/birth_rate/2015_01.html
>•The most common factors of declining birth rates are an increase in the unmarried population and a decrease in the number of children in families.
>>321579619
>LOOK EVERYONE IM POSTING LE SMUG ANIMU GIRL MAYMAY I AM DEFINITELY ONE OF YOU AND NOT A SJW REDDITOR
Fuck off.
>>321580692
Extreme violence is still routinely censored in the west. /v/ doesn't complain about it because they don't get off to it.
>>321580956
Sometimes the censored versions of things leaves more to the imagination.Which to me is more sexier.
>>321577464
Just want to say this post is the most irrational shit I've seen in a while.
>>321581019
>muh SJW bogeyman
>I get easily triggered by anime reaction images
I'm going to post another one just to piss you off.
>>321570176
I've got a Jap Wii U.
What Japanese games have been censored on it?
>>321580671
>the world is more unified today than it ever was prior
Indeed, and yet it's still a filthy pile of shambles.
>Wealth and resources are more readilly available globally than ever before
Yes, and still most people don't have enough water to wash themselves, or appropriate nourishment.
>The stone age literally consisted of the time in which human like species started using tools AT ALL and Chronicles 3.4 million years
Sure, but our species already existed in its current form during that time, did it not?
>>321581108
You get me
>>321580907
>I don't care but instead of hiding the thread I'm going to defend it because I'm a contrary fuckwit
No-one gives a shit haha.
fucking stupid little virgin boy.
>321581213
>14xxxx filename
Not even worth a (You), SJW faggot
>>321580995
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2015/04/07/editorials/battling-the-low-birthrate/
>Japan’s birthrate has sharply declined mainly as more people marry late or not at all. Despite the steep fall in the total fertility rate since the 1970s, the average number of children born to a married couple has remained fairly steady — at slightly above two. The ratio of unmarried people has sharply increased for both men and women in their late 20s to early 30s. While more than 1 million couples got married annually in the 1970s, the number hit a postwar low of 660,000 in 2013.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2014/07/economist-explains-16
>The chief reason for the dearth of births is the decline of marriage. Fewer people are opting to wed, and they are doing so later in life. At least a third of young women aim to become full-time housewives, yet they struggle to find men who can support a traditional family. In better economic times potential suitors had permanent jobs as part of the “lifetime employment” system. Now many hold down temporary or part-time work. Other women shun marriage and children because Japan’s old-fashioned corporate culture, together with a dire shortage of childcare, would force them to give up their careers. Finally, young people are bound by strict social codes. Only around 2% of babies are born outside marriage (compared with 30-50% in most of the rich world), which means that as weddings plummet, so do births. Even for those who do start families, the rising cost of child-rearing often imposes a de facto one-child policy.
>>321581227
#fe
Even zipper panties are too much for japs.
>>321581380
>No-one gives a shit
I do.
Because you know, censorship is always wrong.
>>321580907
>I don't care
Well
You do care enough to read few first line and instead of closing the tab, get baited.
![[Hissing Intensifies].gif](https://i.imgur.com/RK5e3FL.gif "[Hissing Intensifies].gif")
Game is censored?
Well, I censored my hand reaching in to my wallet to pay them for the game.
>>321579428
>Source: My imagination
>>321579428
>The actual ability to not say what we think for one,
In an ideal world, we wouldn't require such
>>321580812
>>321581063
Can you name a few examples then? At least some of which being games /v/ actually cared about?
Contrary to popular belief, a great many games that later drove censorship threads were discussed on here prior to knowledge of their censorship being released.
>>321581651
A few examples of violence and sex? Uh...
>>321581518
good one anon
>>321581063
>Extreme violence is still routinely censored in the west.
That shouldn't happen, either. The point is that censorship is a cancer no matter what it's applied to.
>>321581651
Not recent but BoF4 and xenosaga 1.
>>321570176
>Xenoblade Chronicles X gets censored
>"DON'T BUY THIS GUYS THE GAME IS SHIT NOW"
>Buy it anyway
>The game's still good
I guess doing the opposite of what /v/ says is the best way to go about this.
>>321581441
http://www.yutaaoki.com/blog/top5-mistakes-journalists-make-about-sexless-japan
>But the truth is this: frequency of sex doesn’t correlate to the fertility rate.
>Wait, correlation doesn’t imply causation and causation can exist without correlation!
>…you may scream. Well, I think it’s easy to understand that correlation doesn’t imply causation, right? (But we still make this mistake because it can be confusing.)
>But when it comes to the fact that the absence of correlation doesn’t imply the absence of causation, it’s much harder to explain. I should be aware of this because most of this article is related to this.
>Let’s think about sexlessness and fertility rates. I said that there’s virtually no correlation between the frequency of sex and the birth rate. However, this doesn’t mean that there’s not causation: there obviously is! You have to have sex in order to make a baby. In other words, sex causes babies, albeit not always.
>You can also think that if the frequency of sex is 0, the fertility rate will also be 0 (assuming of course there’s no sperm donation).
>But the data show that there’s no correlation. What does it mean?
>When correlations are absent despite the existence of causation, it possibly means that there are other external factors that neutralise the results, which is exactly the case in this instance: birth control. In this case, it is highly likely that the high sex frequency doesn’t produce more children because people use condoms and possibly abortion when that fails. (Theoretically, you can also think of other factors like epidemics.)
>>321570176
When people complained about censorship, at first I thought it was serious in thinking that important aspects of the game were removed.
But now I see its just people complaining about butts and boobs. After that I decided to stop caring about censored content and just enjoy the game for it's gameplay and story.
>>321581446
Like I said no-one.
>>321581245
No it didn't, the species we are currently believed only has fossils dating at most 200,000 years back, and the tail end of that being the extinction of the former oldest human like species some 60 thousand years ago.
Even according to fossils found in that 200 thousand year gap are very different in comparison to us, humans alive today are biologically different even in comparison to humans a couple thousand years ago, as humans have constantly been evolving in favor of cognitive ability as we have been more successful as a social species than an isolated one (which is a main reason our ancestors actually beat out other more physically advanced proto humans).
Basically anyone who told you we haven't changed at all from our ancestor species is a fucking retard who basically uses "They looked similar" to say we are the same, hell the reason we dont need tonsils or our appendix is a recent evolution that our ancestors didn't have. We are only REALLY biologically similar with humans that existed ~5-10 thousand years back, and that's similarity not being the same, but we are still the same species yes.
>>321581884
>Not recent
That's my problem with that argument though.
I can probably list a half dozen games from this year alone that censored sexual content, but I can't think of a single one that censored violent content from the same period of time.
I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm just saying that the majority of complaints being about the censorship of sexual content is perfectly valid because sexual content is censored more often than violent content.
>>321582337
You obviously weren't here during the South Park and Hotline Miami II debacles where entire chunks of the game were removed in certain countries, if not entire games due to censorship. To date there is no legal way to play Hotline Miami II in Straya and /v/ was pissed.
>>321582337
And then you get quest lines rewritten and parts of plotline cut out in Blade and Soul. Do you seriously think butts and tits is where they're gonna stop? It's not a slippery slope fallacy, it has already happened and will keep occurring.
>>321582707
I still can't believe that South Park bent backwards for censo-
>Episodes 200 & 201
Oh yeah...
>>321582598
I think we can both admit that I'm worth much more than the likes of you.
>>321579012
Maybe because people have been coddled so long that they are so easily broken is the real issue
>>321582619
> majority of complaints being about the censorship of sexual content is perfectly valid because sexual content is censored more often than violent content
How does it happening more often makes it valid?
>>321582337
>not caring about butts
Butts have been appreciated UNIVERSALLY throughout history. They are SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN to be OBJECTIVELY attractive. They invoke a variety of thoughts and emotions, underscoring their ARTISTIC MERIT.
>>321582707
Censorship has been around in other countries for a fucking long time. We understand it by now.
UK, Japan, and the US were the 3 territories that never were hit too hard with censorship, unless the government demanded it. When it happens here, of fucking course it's going to be disliked.
>>321582850
That was Comedy Central. Matt and Trey both hated it.
>>321582616
>200,000 years back
And that does not count as stone age?
>(which is a main reason our ancestors actually beat out other more physically advanced proto humans)
Sure, but how were those ancestors from back then significantly different from us?
>we dont need tonsils or our appendix
Not convinced.
>>321582337
>But now I see its just people complaining about butts and boobs.
You should oppose censorship even if it censors something you absolutely do not care about
>>321575874
Japanese Administrator (male)
>>321583009
My thoughts exactly. Begone, soft society.
I thought Glory of Heracles was pretty good. It's not incredibly deep but it's fun in that simplistic Dragon Quest sort of way.
>>321583108
Dude I care about butts, I'mBrazilianso it's woven into my DNA, I just don't think covering it up is enough to stop me from buying a gameNow reducing butt size on the other hand is another story
Ok, who's the hentai artist that drew this?
His style it's just too familiar for him to not have done porn.
>>321583054
I'm not referring to the argument, I'm referring to the state of affairs.
It is perfectly reasonable that there are more complaints about the censorship of sexual content because sexual content is censored more often than other forms of content.
Full stop. That is my entire argument.
>>321582865
Okay, Hotline Miami 2 is a good example. Calling upon a single example doesn't exactly refute my point, but still.
>>321583648
>I just don't think covering it up is enough to stop me from buying a game
That's not the point, I don't even know what this game is and I protest actions of this kind. I mean,
>muh cultural differences
FUCK that culture. If it's demolished by the slightly exposed behind of a drawn teenage girl, then that culture can't be much of an accomplishment.
>>321583225
They are significantly different, different skull shape, different cranial cavity shape, different bone structure, different amount of spinal columns, different ribcage and hip shapes, etc.
You could literally not fit a brain in your average persons skull into a skull dating even 4 thousand years back, we eat completely differently which alters our entire body chemistry, we have organs that are no longer used or needed, etc.
We are the same species line, but we are not the same as our ancestor. All of the things I have listed are significant differences that have impacted our growth as a species, especially changes in our cranial shapes which have allowed for growth and expansion of different regions of our brains over time.
>>321576736
>What I thought I'd do was I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes
>>321579012
>>321583009
>>321583602
>The truth would break most people.
>But oh no, not me! I'm too strong.
Your personal narrative is boring. Shit story, shitty Gary Stu self-insert.
>>321584624
>>The truth would break most people.
>>But oh no, not me! I'm too strong.
Story of my life.
>Your personal narrative is boring.
At least it's not annoying and uncalled for like yours.
>>321583841
He doesn't, actually. His name is Yoshio Sugiura.
>>321585006
>MFW the most common things to find when an artist or animator dies is porn of their characters
I am not even joking, it happened with more than a few of older WB animators
A-Are people really getting this upset because they decided to covers someones ass with some armor? I mean i could understand if the thing they censored caused the game to be completely different from the original and basically cause the game to be worse because of it. Or completely reworking a character because you could potentially offend somebody. But complaining about the character getting a different set of clothes is really fucking stupid to complain about. Like, what do the clothes even do in the game? Did the censorship ruin the idea of the character or what they stand for? Also dont get me wrong here, tiny details like that arent really worth the work to censor. But then again people have gone full retard over less. For example the color of a god damn cup. People complaining about the censorship of small details need to stop. How about devoting this time and energy complaining about something censored that ruins an entire game or something. Jesus.
>Inb4 people start deflecting by saying, omg how could you defend censorship. Or even worse, play off my statements with strong language an insults like we are in high school again, instead of responding to me like actual people
>>321570176
I know I'm drawing a huge target on my back with this post, but I just want to share my thoughts on the matter.
I've been playing video games for 20 years. For those 20 years that I've been playing games, two things have always been priorities for me in them: the gameplay and the music. Any game I played that was censored in any way usually did not touch the gameplay or music, so I still liked all of them.
Does that mean that I'm perfectly fine with censorship? Well, not really. The fact is that I just don't care enough to boycott games over it because in almost every scenario where censorship is involved in games, it doesn't impact the two things I care about above all else. If, for whatever reason, the gameplay or music is changed in some way, then that's when I choose to care.
This is how I view this matter, and yes, I'm aware that it makes me sound selfish. However, I won't change how I have been making my decisions for the past 20 years no matter what. Not to mention that I'd sooner quit playing games altogether than be forced to learn an entirely different language just to play them.
If this post comes off as bait or copypasta, it's not. These are my actual feelings on the topic and the last post I'll make in these threads because they always make me depressed.
>>321584460
Okay, okay, I get it.
But I still don't think an avoidance of speaking your mind and being honest about your desires is an evolutionary benefit.
Censorship is only bad when it changes or modifies the story in any way
i'm still not ok with it, but it's not much of a matter if it only covers some pantsus or piece of flesh and not the plot
>>321585251
>I mean i could understand if the thing they censored caused the game to be completely different from the original and basically cause the game to be worse because of it.
Stop lying, you'd ridicule people for getting pissed at it regardless.
>But complaining about the character getting a different set of clothes is really fucking stupid to complain about.
God forbid we do things for stupid reasons. Imagine the horror of a life that's not devoted to doing smart and meaningful things from birth till death.
>People complaining about the censorship of small details need to stop.
I don't see why.
>How about devoting this time and energy complaining about something censored that ruins an entire game or something. Jesus.
How about we don't let things even devolve that far? We can do this by going full retard with even the slightest censorship, so people get used to the idea that censorship is evil before it even occurs in a pivotal manner.
tl;dr Censorship is to be opposed as often as possible, even if i affects only mundane nullities.
>>321584836
>Think a thought
>I agree with it, so it must be true
Time to go watch shitty anime and pretend I'm special.
>wanting to see a little bit of an ass so much you'll raise your blood pressure if you don't get it.
Pathetic.
>>321585638
>Censorship is only bad when
Nope, always.
>it's not much of a matter
You cannot settle arguments this way, because if you further that logic, the entirety of existence is not much of a matter.
>>321586018
>shitty anime
Hey, it was pretty good.
>>321585328
It isn't "evolutionary" in the common context, it is a social evolution. Controlling what you say and when you say it, or who you say it too is entirely beneficial to social interactions. A lot of proto human species were not social, and in fact a lot of them didn't have any form of written language or any drawings or depictions or anything in the first place.
Social interaction has been key in the advancement and continuation of our species, avoiding certain speech and action is a very important part of social interaction, and not just for not being offensive. Avoiding being outspoken has helped many a revolutionary, avoiding being honest has helped many keep peace or avoid unrest/hysteria.
To say censorship is only evil denies how much censorship actually takes place.You cannot legitimately tell me there is never a point in time where censoring your own opinion or idea had not been beneficial to you or others.
A good example is during the red scare, a lot of people had to censor themselves to protect themselves from implication. This helped them continue their lives normally until they could more safely share their opinion, and help the idea that they carried survive.
Censorship can be bad or good, it only depends how it is used and the reasons behind it.
>>321586043
If the creator intended for me to see that bit of an ass, who are you to say I don't have the right to?
>>321586593
what a surprise, the filthy commies who kept hidden are now the ones pushing to censor our games
>>321586593
>Controlling what you say and when you say it, or who you say it too is entirely beneficial to social interactions
Bullshit.
>>321586043
>censorship is okay
Pathetic.
Delete your 4chan account.
>>321586043
>Removing such a little bit of an ass in the first place
Equally pathetic. Are all americans huge rapists that they can't afford to risk seeing some skin?
>>321579574
>>321579331
kek like clockwork.
Throwing a pissy fit about an ass shot, boob sliders, bikinis or whatever dumb shit you cry about does not really make you mature or a savvy consumer.
Like I said, if I were a thirsty ass faggot I too would like to attack a legitimate cause to my whining.
>>321586829
>thirsty ass faggot
Are you a nigger?
>>321586829
it's funny because nip porn is literally censored with mosaics and will probably never not be because of this exact resoning
>>321586593
>A good example is during the red scare, a lot of people had to censor themselves to protect themselves from implication.
If they hadn't, there would've never been a red scare to begin with, all Marxist movements would have collapsed, and the world would be a better, more righteous place now. Case in point.
>>321574224
your lord and savior
>>321586593
>reds
>>321586896
I'm not, I just like the expression.
>>321586776
Are you honestly trying to say that manipulating how people think of you or treat you is not beneficial? Have you never held a job anon?
>>321570176
It's weird seeing the silly censorship from the 90s coming back in full circle.
>>321587016
Opinions besides, would you rather speak up and be crushed, or live on and foster the ideas to make sure it survives? Which is more beneficial anon?
>>321586829
Actually I don't even care about most of these weeb games.
I do care about censorship, however. And, while some localization changes are understandable, some are idiotic and are nothing but an utter lack of respect for the original designers' and artists' vision.
>>321587524
>live on and foster the ideas to make sure it survives?
>marxists censor themselves so they can live on to censor our shit today
like pottery
>>321587278
>Are you honestly trying to say that manipulating how people think of you or treat you is not beneficial?
Yes.
It is much more beneficial if people treat you the way you deserve to be treated. That way, when you're treated badly, you have an incentive to fix your goddamn shit. If you can manipulate your way around the negative consequences of your poor character, you'll be an even bigger asshole in the future. It's basic game theory. Someone who plays lots of vidya should actually figure this out instinctively; People who use aimbots have shit aim. Because they have shit aim, they use aimbots. What a vicious cycle. Fair play brings the biggest benefit.
And it's also much more beneficial if people have honest opinions of you, because each of us is just one small lonely powerless little human mind and cannot be trusted with judging their own actions.
>>321587524
>would you rather speak up and be crushed
I'd do that because it's the less hypocritical way. All I live for is that moment when people realize they should have listened to my good advice.
>>321579887
/thread
>>321570176
This game was very good.
>>321587859
>Hivemind vs. Lucifer
>>321587770
Videogames are not art though, as long as gameplay is not changed then people who actually play and like videogames hardly give a shit.
>>321570478
They're the same thing bruh
>>321587975
Well you're a regular everyday Protoman aren't you faggot?
>>321587859
But there in lies the fault anon. Being honest will not garner positive results every time, and assuredly it could garner permanent negative results in the future.
I would provide the example that questioning a persons faith more commonly results in strengthening it as they see it a test of their conviction. The same can be applied to other scenarios.
Aimbotting is a bad example, a good example would be baiting, manipulating an outcome while hiding your true intention, which is something pivotal in a lot of competitive games.
If you are blunt and honest 24/7 it will only hurt you, not help you. There are those that would judge you completely on the smallest facet of who you are or what you stand for, yet praise and support you otherwise.
People having honest opinions are important, and being honest is important as well. But wearing it on your sleeves when you shake hands for the first time is one of the worst decisions you can make.
It would be like listing what you jack off too to people you just met, I would rather not have the content of my character judged by any one thing, but rather have people confident in the content of my character before introducing things that would compromise that image.
I like videogames for example, but it isn't a big part of who I am, and I wouldn't want someone making the judgement of me or my character based on it, which people are wont to do.
>>321571039
Get fucked in the ass Greece.
>>321589328
Come on, you know Greece is just going to take that literally
>>321589694
I thought Greece liked thighs?
>>321587770
Gonna let you in on a secret. When a game is censored, it almost always has to be ok'd by the original developer. They are fully aware of what goes on.
Majority of them do not care.
Also, in the case of Xenoblade X, who do you think made those new assets? It wasn't 8-4 or NoA. 8-4 doesn't even have a FRACTION of power of localization decisions.
>>321586180
>Censorship covers an ass
>oh no! the game is ruined!, the plot makes no sense!, i can't play it and have fun with it! it's illogical!
i don't like Censorship too anon, but come on, if it doesn't affect the story you can still have fun with the game
>>321590530
>playing Bravely Default
>Vampire class is not longer consisting solely of belts
game's fucking ruined.
How am I supposed to accept the story continuing if my vampire waifus aren't wearing solely belts?
>>321590264
>>321590264
With nintendo, they blindly trust noa/e. So when noa says no one in america likes bikinis on females noj shrugs and says okay how much will you need to redraw all the bikinis? 20k, okay here.NoA only needs 5k and just pockets the rest.
>>321590776and what is >she wearing instead of belts
>>321591342
That's not how it works at all. The assets are always made by the original studio. Funfact: Xseed had to cancel a game they fully translated because Vanillaware was busy and couldn't program it for them.
Why does america shoop game covers to be less risque but more violent?
>>321591636
Yes it is. When NoJ wants to bring a game over to USA, they make NoA do an audit saying everything that will need. From translation teams to asset changes. Then they give them the price of how much it will be. NoJ doesn't ever question weather if anything is necessary or unnecessary because they blindly trust them. NoA then gets the devs to do their asset changes, artists to change art, cram a bunch of memes into their translations because that's what the kids like, not market/barely market their games, and pockets the rest of their funding for Christmas bonuses.
i hate the censorship cause its so fucking lazy they didn't even remove the breast silder just fucking disabled it and the replacement clothes i don't how you can look at it and be like yeah that looks good nice job guys
It's pretty funny how rampant DS game censorship was. They really were going crazy censoring everything they could. Sometimes outright raping game content. But this was maybe a few years before social media became big.
>>321589987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1h0pjVwGDI
>>321592254
I'm really fucking glad you didn't pull the "They take forever and make lots of changes because they get paid more" card. Because that really IS NOT HOW IT WORKS.
If that was the case, games would take years to come out. Not at most six fucking months. RPGs taking a few months to localize is not new by any means. Even Square takes months to do it if it's not Final Fantasy.
It's a goddamn miracle that Dragon Quest VII's original translation was made in less than a year, but they said it themselves that they illegally worked on the translation to get it done.
>>321592254
The only exception to this rule was when Kamiya told them to fuck off when they tried to dick with bayonetta.
>>321592957
Localization doesn't take much time if all you're doing is translating(changing text to different language, maintaining meaning, making sure puns and jokes are still "funny" in said language). Most games come out simultaneously in 3+ languages now. It takes a half of dozen fans to translate a full 60+ hour game only about 1 year. That's on their free time and with less people than what an official translate team would have and having to have to hack the game and code their own shit.
>>321592964
Just shows these censors have no real power if only the game creators demand it. I wish more devs were like Kamiya and Takaki
>>321593898
Sadly japan is full of don't go against the grain. While america is, scream and shout until you get your way.
>>321593893
Then you need to record voice acting. And then you need to make sure all the text and audio you added don't break the game. That's a big one.
>>321593898
Kamiya tells everyone to fuck off, especially censorship whiners.
>>321594204
The point is, he doesn't tolerate censorship of his own games. He is autistic about everything else to be of much help
>>321594474
How could you possibly know this? Do you work at Platinum games?
>>321594142
>Then you need to record voice acting.
Debatable.
>And then you need to make sure all the text and audio you added don't break the game.
Like I said, it took less than 6 dudes to fully translate and make a workable fan patch for type 0 in about a 1.5 years.
If a company actually pays a team it would take less than half that time. If a company is smart they have that team do it while it's still in development. Which is what a lot of European devs do.
This kind of people is the kind of people who would turn down pussy just because the girl is a little chubby even when you weight 300 lbs.
>>321594884
You could bring up Project M and actual Smash Bros. games too. Fanworks should never reflect what actual professionals do. Most fan translations also take years. And even at that, some, like Mother 3 are by professional translators.
>>321595336
>Fanworks should never reflect what actual professionals do.
If an amateur can do something in some amount of time, a professional should be able to do more of that thing in less time with a better end result.
>>321595881Professionals are usually working on more than one game at a time, anon.
