>shill against and shit on game all year round
>Best friend got ps4 and the game for christmas
>literally up all night playing it and trying to beat bosses, the atmosphere and graphics
>its the best game Ive ever played
I feel kinda bad. If BB releaes on PC I wouldve never even cared about TW3, though. Not really my fault.
>>321565113
why did you shill and shit on it all year?
>>321565191
I meant shill against it i mean
Kylo Ren kills Chubaka and Laia
>mustards
Im glad I grew out of that years go. I genuinely cringe at PC only people. Holy fuck OP.
>>321565113
F-FUCK OFF WITH YOUR FALSE FLAGGING FUCKING SONY SHILLS
>>321565113
I'm in the same boat, sort of. I never had any real gripes against the game, I guess I was just being part of the wailing wall. I had a ps4 already and got it for chrissy. Game so far is incredible.
Also, is it just me or is the starting saw cleaver the best weapon? I bought the big hammer for my money instead of leveling up and I'm kinda eh on the thing.
>>321565364
I used to gloat about how good games looked on PC when I saw something running on a console
"damn looks so much better on pc" - me to someone enjoying playing a game
glad I grew out of it too anon
>>321565780
the axe is better at low levels but worse at high levels
>>321565780
Good decision, saw cleaver or saw spear are the best starting weapons. The hammer is shit.
>>321566074
saw spear sucks at low levels
damage is shit until you put a lot of blood shards into it
>>321565839
This.
"What's the point in caring about graphics if they get better the next gen and make the current stuff look bad anyway? You just wasted all that time caring and now you're older and the new kids get better graphics for zero effort with the new systems"
I was surprised when I was redpilled by my fucking mum.
spoiler
>>321565780
Kirkhammer is my Waifu/Weaponfu.
Don't listen to this guy >>321566074 that hammer carried me throughout the whole game. Screw Ludwig's Greatsword thing, Hammer is better.What do I do in BB when I've done almost everything?
I always hated souls but bought a ps4 because bloodborne looked interesting and i loved it.
Im still a pc fag tho
>>321566164
>have great movesets and amazing L1
>extra damage to beasts, which are all of the first bosses and enemies in the game
Not saying the axe is ok but it is only for that retarded charged attack
>>321566318
Do everything at level 21 and invade at Gascoigne's fog gate
>>321565113
>Mfw PC/Wii-U/Xbone master race
>Mfw GF surprises me with PS4 w/, Bloodborne, Witcher 3, and the Order 1886
Been having a blast with BB and the SF5 beta; Order was fun but short and she only paid $10 for it.
>>321566318
Ludwig's is pretty good for your first round.
But the game is way more challenging and fun with other weapons.
Currently doing a run with BoM/rakuyo and its way more fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RzA_Oomra8
>>321567236
>Not PC/NES/SNES/PS2/PS3/PS4 Masterrace
anon,I...
>>321566942
So screw with people or go through the game with a handicap? I guess I could also mess around with enemies or try another build. This game was a lot shorter than I expected though.
Don't read anymore if you don't want spoilers.I still don't even understand the ending or the story. From what I gathered the Moon Presence did something and started this whole hunter's dream thing. And the baby had something to do with calling Kos.Or some say Kosm.But what was with the Doll picking up the little slug at the end?
Is it Kos or Kosm?
>>321568007
You are the squid.
>>321568142
Kos
>>321568142
Some say Kosm.
>>321568387Hold up, I am the squid? How does that make sense? Is that what that injection/transfusion thing at the start was?
>>321567998
>literally 3/5 of them platforms are emulatable on PC
>unironically buying a ps2/NES/SNES
lmao
>>321568620
Only happens if you consume three umbilical cords. It gives you the insight that allows you to become a Great One.
>>321568670
>Emulating is the same as actually playing
>>321568007
You are the squid. You've done what others have failed to do, ascended to Great One status, although you're just a baby great one. Moon presence uses the hunters that go through the dream, like Old Wheelchair Man (forgot his name) to do what it wants. (That's why if you don't get the 3 umbilical cords you get put in the wheelchair; you're now being used) The Old Hunters had something to do with a curse placed, and I guess killing the Orphan Lifted it. I haven't played that DLC so I dunno.
>>321568764
>impyling theres a difference
you're playing same game, just with more flexiblility.
>>321567998
>ps3
>not ps3 + 360 for universally better multiplats
>>321568620
Refer to >>321568827
>>321567643
BoM is fun as hell. Not a fan of the Rakuyo personally, it's good but not as fun to use as the BoM, and I was kind of disappointed by it after seeing how cool Maria's moveset was by comparison.
But I can't stay away from the Holy Moonlight Sword personally. God damn I love that weapon.My main guy is like level 200 on NG+4 so I've got the stats to just swap between HMS and BoM and it's great.
I got to Ludwig on my second character, currently at BL 60, but I don't do shit for damage. Nigger is fucking me up.
>>321568670
>>321568832
I actually prefer playing on the virtual console. The gamepad integration is pretty cool and I like supporting franchises I want to see more of. Voting with the dollar and all that.
I mean, Earthbound Beginnings was basically hell freezing over, and I bought Mother 1 and 2 on virtual console because I love the series and would really like to see an official localized port of Mother 3.
And I'm not poor so, there's that.
>>321569041
what + is your weapon
what gems do you have?
>>321565113
I wanna say fuck you for shitposting over a game you haven't played but I don't want to be a hypocritice
>>321566214
>>321565839
>>321565364
I refuse to believe that anyone here only has or had a PC to game. I can understand only having 1 console due to the underage influx, but no one with a decent PC can be this retarded.
>>321569113
Why even talk about games you haven't played at all?
>>321568749
>>321568827Oh that actually kind of makes sense. So what was the Moon presence's actual plan? Is it just an asshole that decided to screw everyone over?As you can probably gather, I didn't read too much into anything during my playthrough.
i really wanted this game to last long but i just can't go past NG. i used to love twinking, but you can't really invade until 43 and you have to grind chalice dungeons to be able to get anything decent anyway. enemies in NG late game have enormous health pools which really pisses me off.
>>321568749
But why does it happen after killing the Moon Presence?
>>321569132
I just enjoy mods on stupid fun games like Skyrim. (Because that's the type of game Skyrim is at this point.)
>>321568387
Fake Iosefka is best girl
I've been playing bloodborne for 6 hours straight and I have a headache. Haven't been this way with videogames for years.
>>321569263
It's fun to rile people up
I love bloodborne tho
>>321569323I don't know.
>>321569306
I don't remember to well. The moon presence doesn't like the other Great Ones (or something like that) from what I remember.
>>321569101
Saif and Pimp Cane, both at +6.
Some shitty gems, nothing particularly good. My damage with both weapons is about 200-220.
>>321568142
Kos, or as some uneducated plebs say, Kosm
>>321568620Great Ones like the Moon Presence yearn for a child because they can't reproduce and turn to humans as surrogates but keep failing. Humans want to ascend and become Great Ones but are unsure if it can be done through Blood consumption or gaining Insight. The irony with that ending is that the player Hunter is technically the first to ever ascend to being a Great One instead of a Kin (like Rom and Ebrietas) but you killed your Moon Presence daddy to ascend
>>321569306
Actually, most of the Great Ones are sympathetic in spirit. In fact the only ones that could be taken as agressive are Formless Odeon and Amygdala.
The Moonlight Presence was beckoned by the Old Hunters to combat the Beast Scourge. The details are muddy of course but it seems to be helping the hunters without any gain for itself.
>>321569334
Where is the bitch even from anyway? I still don't know what's up with her other than wanting to ascend or something.
>>321569132
I only have a PC to game on cause im a neet poorfag but if I had a choice i would pick up a PS4
>>321565113
>though. Not really my fault.
>not my fault I judged a game and refused to play it due to it being on a "CONSOLE"
>>321569446
get your weapon to atleast +7, and get decent gems on them, about 13% phys+ in each slot would do
>>321569323
Have you noticed after killing/seeing certain bosses/things you gain more insight. It's probably because in combo with you gaining insight from the umbilical cords and killing a great one, like the moon presence that has such an influence over the dream and world.
>>321569559
Rom and Ebrietas are Great Ones.
>>321565113
I just realized that all those people who shit all over Bloodborne called it "Stillborne"
In hindsight...that's extremely on point, though not for the same reason.
>>321569041
I went in there around the same level with a +6 weapon and also got completely fucked until I got gud. I was stuck on him for longer than any boss in the game. I think Orphan of Kos is a more challenging fight but I was far better-prepared for him than I was for Ludwig.
If you want to beat him now instead of coming back later you just have to play really carefully. Stay just out of his reach and just bonk him on the head once whenever he whiffs an attack, then back away again. Eventually you'll get a chance for a visceral attack. You can also get a lot of hits in if you dodge through his breath attack as he's using it and run up to him. And for the love of God don't get hit by the charge.
Thankfully his second phase is a lot easier even though it's more intimidating.
I WANT TO GET PREGNANT WITH A GREAT ONE
>>321569606
I do have a couple of chunks I suppose, but was waiting to get the Rakuyo first.
>13%+ gems
I'll see if I can get some from those fags on the stairs. No way in hell I'm going back to the chalice dungeons.
>>321569671
Hmm well, that makes sense. The cords protect you from getting screwed by MP, and killing it helps you ascend I suppose. Still, BB is fucking weird.
>>321565780
Saw cleaver is literally the best weapon in the entire game. The charge attack time combined with no lock on makes easy back stabs.
>>321565452
>false flagging steam user while telling op to stop false flagging sony
This shits getting too meta
>>321569671
also, I'm pretty sure the Moon Presence is the only actual great one you kill.
>>321569715
They are not "actual/original" great ones though. Rom is a student of Birgenworth (or whatever, I don't give a fuck) but he sort of ascended to great one status. He can't really think or anything like that though. Remember (Nicolas) Cage man talking about Kos giving eyes to the "vacuous Rom?" Rom wasn't and original Great One
>>321565113
Imagine thinking anyone will believe any of this, lol
>>321569715
kin =/= great ones
goofy ayy lmaos, and ascended former humans like Rom are kin. Great Ones are the step above
>>321569837
I had an easier time getting hits while dodging into his sides. The bad part is that this doesn't position him for a visceral.
>>321569563
>Formless Odeon
>bad
He only wanted to skrew with Arianna.Who wouldnt?
>>321569323
Because you can't fight the moon presence as a baby squid.
>>321569932
by "can't think" I mean he is basically a vegetable at this point, but a vegetable with God powers.
>>321570008
Also, This^^
>>321569932
Orphan of Kos is a Great One.He cursed the hunters, and the blood, and controls the nightmare that holds the Hunter's Nightmare.
>>321565113
It's more shallow and forgiving than Dark Souls. It's a good game, but it's s step back in almost every area that's not atmosphere and visuals. Aanyone who has played both and isn't a blind fanboy recognizes this, as much of it is objectively measurable.
The world isn't as interconnected, it's more linear, stamina consumption is a joke, you're not punished nearly as much for missing an attack or mistiming a heal, you can just farm and stack your healing items, rolls have more iframes, equipment and weapon variety is sparse, armor doesn't affect your character's mobility, there's no equip load stat, some equip slots are missing, character builds all play largely the same, magic is gone, covenants aren't as good, PVP is garbage, etc.
Again good game but simply not as good as Dark Souls because it was streamlined (removing options so the player has less room for error and frustration) to reach a wider audience, according to the director himself. It's PS4 exclusive after all, and the vast majority of PS4 owners are playing casual, shallow western trash.
Just wait until you beat it and realize it has literally no replay value at all, something that wasn't a problem for DeS, DaS, or even DaS2
>>321570008
Rom is considered a Great One, though
>>321565780
All 3 starting weapons seem to be great. I used the axe on my first play and that shit is fucking fantastic. Currently using the cane and it's excellent, too, but for different reasons.
Haven't tried the Cleaver yet.
>>321570112
But not a full grown great one. He's like you, when you turn into a squid, but probably at an older state
(from what I can tell)
What else is there on ps4 besides bloodborne? Was thinkin I might get one desu
>>321565839
>"damn looks so much better on pc" - me to someone enjoying playing a game
>giving yourself away as a neocuck
>>321569132
I only game on PC because I don't see the point in buying a console when I still have hundreds of good games I haven't ever started sitting in my backlog
>>321569435
>>321569559
>>321569563So you're telling me that I fought through that entire game and all of it's irritating enemies, just to kill a nice octopus thing that was trying to help everyone and become a slug? I mean it seems like the Moon Presence didn't understand how to help and screwed everything up, but still.
>>321569563
>without any gain
nigga it downright rapes you and transforms you into the next host of the hunter dream after you kill the previous one, it wants someone as a surrogate child, THAT'S what it is getting
>>321569932
>Rom
>he
>>321570205
dark souls 2 isnt even worth a first playthrough
>>321570008
>>321570095
Great ones can be kin.
Kin can be great ones.
Kin are not automatically great ones, and great ones are not automatically kin. This is a testable, observable thing in-game.
>>321570008
They are both explicitly referred to as Great Ones.
So why is the Doll caring for the baby squid? Why does she even give a shit at that point? And how does she know the squid is the hunter?
>>321565191
Cause i wanted the rest of /v/ to think is was cool and stuff :( You guys are always talking bad about video games and i wanted to be in the in crowd.
>>321570205
I've played through the games 5 times.
That's half as many times as I played through Dark Souls and just as many times as I played through Dark Souls 2 and Demons Souls.
>>321570293
I don't know how Great One aging works, but he was in his mother's belly for a fuck ass long time so who knows.
>>321570054
>mfw seeing her on the chapel for the first time.
>>321570375
The Moon Presence had more malicious plans, I don't remember the details though
I only buy consoles when the gen is about to end.
I'll have all the exclusives at the moment and at the best price.
I won't pay a premium price and wait for exclusives to come, and at $70 each.
There's literally no reason to do so.
>>321569072
Mother and Mother 2 are available on the virtual console now? When did they start selling Japanese games on the US e-shop, because I don't see it?
>>321570205
I disagree.
>>321570375
Welcome to the Soul series. Enjoy your misery.
>>321570383
Well for all we know it's just upholding it's end of the deal. I mean sure Gehrman was tired of the dream and all but this is pretty much what he asked for. Note that the ending in which it takes you in is named 'Honoring Wishes' thus implying your character is doing this willingly (it's body language during the cutscene implies this too).
Then again as with every Souls game there is a lot that falls up to interpretation.
>>321570195
Wouldn't exactly call it linear. More than half of the game's coolest stuff isn't even required or on the primary path
>>321565113
I hate post like these, wait till after the honey moon period, I love the game and all, gotg to me, but please, atleast 400 hours before posting this shit
>>321570501
yes and your breakthroughs no doubt all played the same, that just shows you managed to put up with doing the same shit over and over again, doesn't speak much for the game itself.
>>321569323
After you eat 3 cords you have enough insight that you become a great one. When the moon presence comes down it realizes this and it cant fuck with you anymore so it decides to fight you. After it dies then you become a slug. Motives/reasons/explanations beyond that are over my head
>>321569929
I swear this board has turned into a Cold War simulator
>>321566309
Woah wait, when and where is this?
I don't think ive seen this after 4 playthroughs
>>321565839
>"damn looks so much better on pc" - me to someone enjoying playing a game
Nice to see you are a Redditor too.
>>321570375
It's a great one, humans can't understand it's thoughts or intentions.
>>321570195
Picked the bait, uh?
>>321570642
Not entirely linear by any means, just more linear than Dark Souls, the world wasn't interconnected as well or as creatively.
>>321570468
She's a Great One, obviously, and you're her surrogate child.
>>321569715
Most things in game referred to as great ones are described so by characters in-game who didn't understand much of what was going on either. Everything above them and beyond understanding is obviously great.
Meanwhile, the game has hard mechanical classifications for enemies. Things like Rom, Ebrietas, and ayylmaos are considered Kin, and all have similar resistances (highly weak to thrust and lightning). Meanwhile, legit great ones like Moon Presence, Amygdala, and the Wet Nurse aren't labeled Kin and have equal resistance to the 3 elements and no particular weakness to thrust.
Orphan of Kos is the only oddball. It becomes Kin halfway through the fight.
>>321570623
There is literally nothing to interpret here, the story is fucking given to you on several plates throughout, this was likely asked for by Sony since they know their audience is stupid enough to buy a console with no games on it, if you can't understand it due to your stupidity that's your fault but don't go on pretending it's deep or complex, you flaming homosexual.
>>321565113
>>321565780
What sort of buffoon talks shit about something he's never even tried and knows nothing about?
>>321570052
You can deal damage quicker that way, but at the time (with very low VIT) I found it a lot less safe in the first phase. If you mistime the dodge on his left-to-right sweep attack it can catch you in multiple hits and instantly kill you, and he has that backstep claw attack that comes out very fast and can also basically OHKO you at low VIT. Plus if you somehow wind up behind him you'll just get kicked in the face.
On the other hand if you stay just out of his reach and only attack him when you know you're safe, you can slowly whittle him down without too much risk provided you don't make any major screwups. It takes longer but I find it a more consistent way to survive the fight at low level. But that's just how it worked out for me.
For the second phase you should absolutely stick to his sides like glue and keep trying to get behind him while beating on his ass, because that's by far the safest and fastest way to win.
>>321570375
Well it seems like Great Ones are also competing for surrogates, which is why Moon Presence sends you on a (cryptic) mission to silence the stillborn dead Great One Mergo (Queen Yharnam's babby, the ghostly white lady) that Micolash tried to contact and reach into the Nightmare of Mensis.
>>321570501
>at all
Well that's just plain exaggeration.
>>321570692
I could say exactly the same thing for Dark Souls 2 and Demons Souls.
>>321570054
Oh, so that's how she got pregnant.
>>321570195
This. The choice to go back to the asinine DeS healing system that just encourages you to farm for hours so you can have basically infinite healing items alone makes it a lesser game than DaS or DeS. Not to even mention the lack of variety in builds, armors, weapons, PvP, and music.
>>321570869
Well thanks for reminding me why I don't come to this board too much.
>>321570829
>She's a Great One
>You're her surrogate child
What?
The Doll is not a great one. Old Wheelchair dude modeled her after a woman he loved/wanted to git it on with.
And she just cares for you. She was made to be caring. By the dude that made her.
>>321570838
>It becomes Kin halfway through the fight.
Which means that being Kin and being a Great One aren't mutually exclusive. Ebrietas and Rom are called Great Ones by their trophy descriptions.
REQUESTING THE WEBM OF STAKE DRIVER 3 SHOT EBITRAS. ALSO STAKE DRIVER BUILD PLEASE
>>321568142
The boss is called orphan of Kos. You decide.
>>321570963
Patently false, your build was affected by your equipment and didn't play exactly the same regardless of what you wore. Every build in BB is a fast DEX build.
>>321570829
I thought that, too, but wasn't she made by Gherman and the other hunters or something?
And if that's the case, it was simply a change from 1 Great One to another, though I suppose she seems overall benevolent.
>>321570838
No, they are referred to as great ones by an out-of-universe omniscience, the trophy description.
>>321570767
>Cold War simulator
Here's a Cold War simulation game.
It's really fucking stressful and like 4 hours long.
>shill against a game
>shill for a game
Shills need to die.
>>321571056
Think about it though, out of all Great Ones she's the only one that bleeds pure white blood.Paleblood
>>321570770
>Only four times
>>321571056
>Entire game is about Great Ones seeking a surrogate child.
>Secret ending has a character looking very satisfied about obtaining a surrogate Great One.
>"The Doll is not a great one.
I disagree.
>>321571104
The game plays fast with no shield and armor, but that doesn't mean the builds are the same.
I play exclusively on PC because there's never, ever more than 2-3 games I want to buy on a single console.
Bloodborne was one of those games I wanted though, I think it's still underrated compared to the other 2015 releases. Aesthetically, it's the best looking game I've ever seen. The weird blend of Lovecraft and Gothic is too good.
>>321569929
Crying wojak isn't falseflag, is mocking
When people repeat what you said in a funny voice, do you call that a false flag?
>>321571006
But it doesn't allow you to get infinite healing items because there's a carrying limit. I still think the estus system is better though.
Also BB has the best music in the series.
>>321571152
>four hours
Not unless you trick your opponent into causing a nuclear war.
>>321570770
it's the older daughter of gascoigne
>>321571109
The Doll in the Abondoned Workshop is made by Gherman, the one in the Dream simply takes that form. Probably to give comfort to Gherman, the eternal prisoner of the Dream.
>>321571196
>>321571246
But the wheelchair dude isn't even a great one. How does he have the power to create one.
>>321571374
L-lewd
>>321568620
>Hold up, I am the squid? How does that make sense? Is that what that injection/transfusion thing at the start was?
Basically you got out of the curse of Kos, the curse is that hunters will become beasts and be hunted themselves, making it a vicious cycle.
You basically got out of the whole hunting cycle business shenanigans and transcend the hunt to become a Great One, just like them
>>321569132
PC gaming is great.
>playing Transformers: WFC co-op campaign with friends
>game randomly crashes
>restart it
>die in same general area
>game crashes again
This happened 5 times.
>Just started the game today
>Managed to beat Gascoigne after a shitton of tries
>Cleric Beast was one try ezpz
Saw Cleaver is gr8
Yharnam Hunter set is swag
Game is pretty great. Having trouble adjusting since I'm pretty ingrained into DkS strats but it feels good when I get into the groove of it
Anything I should know for later?
>>321571374
The one at the Workshop taps its finger as if alive.
>>321571249
Your mobility is largely the same regardless of what you're using as a weapon or what you're wearing, that is a step backward in complexity and limits the number of different builds and play styles you can use. I understand that the game plays more quickly, that's not the problem. The problem is that the game only lets you play that way, your armor does jack.
>>321570468Isn't she made to love the hunter? It would seem reasonable to assume she'd still care for him even as a slug.
>>321570623
I'm used to misery in video games, anon. I just didn't understand the game because I was too busy having fun fighting things.
>>321570804
That seems like a good way to avoid explaining details, but I guess that's a thing with all these Ctulthu-esque creatures.
>>321571440
He didn't create the Doll in the Dream.
>>321571492
The curse of Kos is blood-addling, not the beast plague.
>>321571230
Had too much Splatoon to play, but I'm getting back into it now that the DLC added such fun weapons.
>>321571368
Oh I see, I never finished that questline since all you get out of it are messenger hats.
>remember getting my ass kicked up down and sideways by Vicar at a friend's house
>try it with a Saw Spear, 1 shot it
This thing has no right being this good
>>321570891
Underage fags on /v/, and salty poorfags.
So a lot of the board.
>>321571524
Buy vials with your echo while they are dirt cheap
>>321571528
Related beings are clearly connected to each other across dreams. Maria and the Workshop Doll are both connected to the Dream Doll somehow, but I wouldn't say that precludes her being a Great One or says anything special about them.
>>321571503
PS4 gaming is great.
>Not playing Transformers: WFC because it's not on PS4 and PS4 isn't BC with PS3 games because Sony are Jews
>Don't play Transformers: WFC co-op with friends
This happens every time.
>>321571342
I wasn't that clever the first 2 times I played it.
>>321571440
Moon Presence gave life to his doll in exchange of eternal servitude in the dream. Why does the doll keep on going after Moon Presence is defeated?No Doll, you are the Great One
>>321566074
>Don't you believe in fairies?
>>321571524If Gascoigne gave you trouble, Vicar Amelia will make your blood boil.
>Aliens are literally just NOT CTHULU TOTALLY ORIGINAL
Why are Devs such fucking Hacks who have never actually read any Weird Fiction outside of H.P. Hackcraft?
>>321565780
Almost every weapon can be made into the best was depending on how you optimizatize. Cleaver is good for a book with even strength and skill distribution, but I can deal huge damage, much more so than my cleaver, with the Holy sword of Moonlight on my Arc/str build and the Reiterpallasch and cane may be orgasmic if you focus on skill.
Is there a game that creates as much butthurt for PC people as bloodborne?
>>321571864
Vicar Amelia is easy af with the current patch
you can stunlock her with viscerals with a fire buffed cleaver
>>321570770
It's Gascoigne's daughter.
>Find that window near the shortcut in Central Yarnham and agree to find the girl's mother
>Get the brooch from that ledge in Gascoigne's boss arena and bring it to her
>Tell her about Oedon Chapel
>She gets killed on the way there.
>Later kill the pig in the tunnel before Gascoigne's boss arena to find her ribbon
>After the Blood Moon, go back to the window and her sister will ask if you've seen her
>Give her the ribbon and leave
>She realizes her sister is dead and kills herself by jumping off the ledge by the window
Miyazaki is really mean to NPCs.
>Be BB
>Fail to win ANY awards
>>321571561
Except your mobility is not the same because some weapons have heavy attacks and some have light attacks.
You are only complaining that the main difference is fat guys in armor vs light guys in armor. What you fail to realize is that this is a completely different game, and the variety comes from the extremely unique trick weapons. The diversity in trick weapons allows for multiple playthroughs. Not the armor or clothing.
>>321571524
You either make a bloodtinge or arcane build or you don't put points in it.
Stats softcap at 25 and hardcaps at 50, decide if you like str or dex weapons more and you can have a balanced build by splitting it 50/25 unless you wanna go high lvl and do 50/50.
Now get out of this thread before too much gets spoiled for you
>I'll avenge you Eileen
>NPCs in souls games are a joke after all
>>321572074
ds1 was in the same boat
>The Doll is a great one that loves you, hoping that you become her child
Incest doujins when?
>>321571742
So MP was capable of creating a Great One, in this case, the Doll? If that's the case, why would any Great One need a surrogate if more can be created like this?
>>321571969
They nerfed her?
Guess it's just like they did with DaS and DaSII.
Why does everyone has a problem with Cleric Beast, Blood Starved Beast and Vicar Amelia?
Flamesprayer basically kills them easy
>>321572151
Is this porn...?
>>321571923
the fuck are you even on about mate?
the great ones are said to be sympathetic and even semi-benevolent, it's humanity that causes the horrors by trying to mix their reality and ours and beckon forth the moon presence. they're also not aliens. they're from the cosmos, but the cosmos means a higher plane in this sense. for example, they say 'The Choir stumbled upon an epiphany, very suddenly and quite by accident. Here we stand, feet planted in the earth. but might the cosmos be very near us, only just above our heads?' which implies that they're terrestrial and not from space.
it's got better lore than most weird fiction writers, including those who have and have not contributed to what literary folks consider the cthulhu mythos.
>>321571503
Maybe you're plain retarded? Out of the hundreds of games I've played on my PC, I've had to troubleshoot about 5 of them.
>>321572248
>people have issues with Cleric beast and BSB
Vicar Amelia I can understand but jeez.
>>321572283It is, but I dont have the actual graphical images
>>321572248
I'm just starting out and I found them fineGascoigne and the shadows of yharnam pushed my shit inSomebody told me I was underlevelled for shadows but I think it was just being bad
>>321572079
>Except your mobility is not the same because some weapons have heavy attacks and some have light attacks.
Every other game has that too, in addition to what BB is missing.
You still walk/run and roll around at the same speed, your mobility is no different your weapon just has different attacks, like every weapon in every other game. The different attacks your weapons had combined with the variations in mobility based on other equipment added more depth and customization to the game, it allowed you access to more varied playstyles and builds.
Again, it's a good game I just wish fanboys would stop pretending it's the best in the series because it's a step backward in so many ways. It's less punishing, it's shorter, the PVP is bad, your builds and play styles are very limited. I just can't understand why anyone would say this is better than Dark Souls unless they're part of that "wider audience" the game was watered-down for and they wanted an easier DmC-like action game without as many RPG elements.
>>321571561
Can you honestly say playing with the kirkhammer is similar to the blade of mercy?
I don't even understand your comparisons with armor. DaS2 didn't even have different weights between fat and non-fat.
>>321571967
It basically turned the Souls fanbase into a split group of haves and have-nots.
If you don't want to buy a console for a series then you're not a real fan of that series to be honest.
>>321565113
Nice turn of heart. I can see how people can automatically think people are overrating exclusives just because they are exclusives but Bloodborne was really just a great high quality title.
Glad you're enjoying it friend.
>>321572226
>So MP was capable of creating a Great One, in this case, the Doll? If that's the case, why would any Great One need a surrogate if more can be created like this?
I'm grasping at straws anon, don't believe everything I say. But in my own head canon, I like to think of the Doll as a physical manifestation of a Great One within the Hunter's Dream, which explains why the dream is sustained after you defeat MP and also whythe Doll has eyes on the inside of her skull if you clip through her head
>>321569715
Rom was a human before.
Ebritas is what comes out of Rom's cocoon.That's what the "dead Rom" in the alter of despair is, a shed skin
>>321571961
How to Moonlight Sword build? What gems?
>>321572493
I've had to troubleshoot a lot.
>Play Civ 5 and it works fine
>Play it a few months later and it won't read the mouse for some reason
>Go to forums and find out that it's apparently normal
>Try different fixes for about an hour until it works.
What confuses me most is why it randomly quit working.
>>321572071
>You directly and indirectly cause the death of all of Gascoigne's family, except his wife
I just wanted to help the little girl.
>>321572637
>Can you honestly say playing with the kirkhammer is similar to the blade of mercy?
Again, your mobility is still largely the same. You play like a fast DEX build, the only variation is the weapon your using and it's different attacks. Dark Souls had that and allowed you to vary how mobile your character was, so you had both the variation in weapon and its attacks and how your character moved in general. There was more depth.
>>321572593
Nobody is saying it's better than Dark Souls, faggot. Hence my first reply.
It's way better than Dark Souls 2, and that's what everyone wanted.
The bosses are fun and the chalice dungeons offer challenge to those who want it. It's something new and refreshing, and it worked really well.
It's also just as long as Demons Souls and extremely punishing with chalice dungeons, so I don't get why you need to say that shit.
>>321572816
Or maybe the Doll is controlled or took form by Oedon, waiting for you and chosen you to possibly be the mother of his childrne
>>321572816
Oh, I know anon. I'm arguing with you for the sake of understanding what the fuck is going on. I still have to get 2 other endings I think.
>the Doll has eyes on the inside of her skull if you clip through her head
Haven't tried this.
>you will NEVER experience Bloodborne for the first time again like these lucky fucks getting the game for Christmas
>you will never open yanthram gates for the first time and hear that deathly creak
JUST.
>>321572923
>>321572493
Just looking at my installed games it occurs to me I've had some kind of issue with like 80% of them, some minor some major. Mostly fixable although I had to give up on saints row 2 and just tolerate it being a piece of shit.
>>321572921
50 str/25 skl/ 25 arc is pretty solid
and here senpai
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/best-blood-gems-setups.html
It hasn't been updated to include the godly buffed str scaling gems though, so I think that ideally you want a +60 str scaling gem in there if you want to min-max
Good luck farming
>>321573396
>you will NEVER experience Bloodborne for the first time again
I mean you pretty much will in April.
>>321573396
At least we got to play it with zero knowledge of the Ayys or how the game would actually work.
Definitely worth my 2 month hiatus from /v/ before release just to play truly blind.
>>321573464
>implying DS3 is gonna be anything close to BB
I dunno man, I want to believe but DS is getting pretty stale at this point. BB actually felt fresh and interesting.
>>321572283
No, but this is.
>inb4feather pubes
>>321572493
>>321573420
Don't know what to tell you, the amount of issues I've had while playing vidya on both consoles and PC are minor. I even did some weird language shit to my pc to be able to play Kamidori and some VNs.
>>321565113
FUCKIN PC GETTING XCOM 2 AND DRAGONS DOGMA SOON! WHYYYYY DO THEY ALWAYS WINNNNN!
I KNOW WHAT I'LL DO! I'LL PRETEND I CAN AFFORD A PC ON 4CHAN.ORG/V/ AND TALK ABOUT A GAME FROM 9 MONTHS AGO
>>321573651
>Not a nigress
Eileen is canon nigglet.
Miyazaki said so himself
Anybody got a lvl 60 and want to help me kill the Pthumerian descendant in the Great Chalice?
I need someone to distract him because I'm all arcane and no vitality.
>>321573651
What's wrong with her nipple?
>>321565780
In a way yes.
The cleaver has a serated bonus that's really effective against beast type enemies which are about 70% of the game
>>321573757
>Shit nobody cares about.
Sad.
Go away and stop depressing us please.
>>321572593
Have you considered that some people just like the main story/first playthrough more, which is the primary thing they care about?
Also, "it's shorter" is not a valid criticism of quality.
>>321573451
Thanks anon!
>25 arc
I seriously thought it required a full blown Arcane build.
>>321573294
>Nobody is saying it's better than Dark Souls, faggot
I hope you're kidding, that's all we heard for months after its release. Anyone with actual, legitimate criticism was met with "lol u dunt haz ps4 XD!" or "Quality over quantity!" when Dark Souls had both.
>t's also just as long as Demons Souls and extremely punishing with chalice dungeons, so I don't get why you need to say that shit.
The game in general is less punishing than Dark Souls, one part of the game accessed much later doesn't make that untrue. I'd expect it to be longer than the first game in the series and not be shorter than the previous two entries, how is that not a step backward?
The problems with Dark Souls 2 were more to do with enemy placement, general layout and pacing, which were generally not problems in BB.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1mOajfuIli1
>>321573087
Not him, but an individual trick weapon in Bloodborne changes your playstyle far more than most weapons in Dark Souls do. Aside from having multiple forms and more attacks per weapon, there are also weapons with unique mechanics unlike anything in Souls, like the BoM's special dodge damage bonuses, the Beast Claws' beasthood buildup (and interplay with the Beast's Embrace), the Kos Parasite in general, basically every Powder Keg and Vileblood weapon in some aspect, etc. Then there's the addition of a bunch of offhand weapons with entirely different purposes and roles in the gameplay, hunter tools, etc.
The variety argument does hold some weight in the sense that specific playstyles have fewer options compared to others, but claiming BB simply has less depth because it doesn't cater to specific playstyles that Dark Souls did is a gross oversimplification of the game mechanics.
I actually don't like BB more than DaSDaS > BB > DeS > DaS2but far too much criticism of BB boils down to "it doesn't have [thing that was in DaS]" without accounting for the fact that they're different games.
>>321572921
You probably either go 50/25/25 with nourishing gems, or 25/12-25/50 with tempering flat arcane gems.
The result probably won't be too far apart, but the former will be better general use and in normal sword form, while the latter deals much more of its damage as arcane and is stronger for the tricked form.
>>321573636
This.
>no dash
>only roll like a retard
>Boletaria 4.0
>no victorian setting with an almost barroque gothic arquitecture
>no Lovecraft twistw
>not a love letter to a Castlevania fan who has no hope after Konami shit on their own bed
>no atmosphere you had only felt in Silent Hill
>...
>Fuck Konami
>>321573757
DELETE THIS
>>321570891
90% of underage losers on this board
so a lot
>>321573850
>lvl 60
Right there with you, anon, what do you-
>Great Chalice
Oh. Good luck I guess.
>>321574365
FUCK
>>321573975
>Have you considered that some people just like the main story/first playthrough more
The game just has a little less depth and allows the player fewer options when making their character. Not caring about that is fine, but it doesn't make it untrue. I might not care that the Xcom reboot on 360/PS3 was dumbed-down and had plenty of fun with it anyway but that didn't change the fact that it was mechanically more shallow than the games it was rebooting.
>Also, "it's shorter" is not a valid criticism of quality.
I disagree, but that was simply one minor point of many so I don't argue it further. My major gripes are with the lack of diversity in builds and play styles and the slight watering-down of some mechanics.
>>321574197
Makes sense. I guess I was still kinda obsessed with making efficient builds like I did in DeS and DaS, but BB seems to be ok with getting to level 120 or so.
>>321574309
I don't even know if I'd want another BB yet, I just think the best thing Miyazaki can do is keep taking spins on that formula and see the interesting places the series can go.
It's obvious he has a passion for old european settings though. Bloodborne did feel like the most true 3D adaption of SOTN.
I even based my character off Alucard.
>>321574076
Those people saying it's better than Dark Souls are just gold face memers.
A lot of people will say that the story is far better, including myself, but overall Dark Souls 1 will still be favorite.
Quality =/= Quantity
>>321574664
That jaw though...
>>321566074
Where is this? Is this in upper cathedral ward? I don't know any other places with this kind of monster and doors... or maybe it's that living 4chins place from the DLC..
>>321573818
Source?
>>321573872
Nothing. Just an inside-out condom on it.
>>321574309
>Boletaria 4.0
But that's great, anon. Boletaria is probably my favorite area in all of the games.
>>321574004
I'm not totally sure but it seems HMS scale 3/4 str and 1/4 arcane dmg in transformed, full str untransformed and beams are full arcane. Go above 50 arc if you want to play with a converted arcane weapon/ayy lmao mode and use hunter tools heavily because they keep scaling above the hardcap.
>>321574784
Character creators are hard anon, I tried.
>>321574134
>Not him, but an individual trick weapon in Bloodborne changes your playstyle far more than most weapons in Dark Souls do
There are more variables in DaS than just your weapon, that's the point. In BB, it doesn't matter what weapon you use, your character moves and rolls largely the same. You can't be a slow-plodding tank with ridiculous poise, you're stuck with your fast DEX build no matter what. I disagree, builds in DaS were more varied than anything you can do in BB. Again, BB is a solid game, jut not as deep as DaS and was a step back in many area.
>but far too much criticism of BB boils down to "it doesn't have [thing that was in DaS]" without accounting for the fact that they're different games.
Absolutely not an excuse. Dark Souls 2 is as different a game as Bloodborne is from DaS, so why shouldn't it get a pass for it's flaws too? The problem is not that BB is missing things from DaS, it's that those things being gone causes the game to be less complex with fewer variables for the player to mess around with. Nothing came in to replace that missing depth in a lot of places, it's just not there anymore.
>>321574918
Making your character look okay is the single hardest thing in Souls.
I can git gud at boss fights, but I will never git gud at character creation.
This game is shit, I played it for a while but returned almost immediately. Souls franchise is dead, it's rehash after rehash, this is the 4th game already and it's basically just the same
>same longsword movements
>same greatsword movements
>dogs, dogs, dogs everywhere the same as ever
only thing they changed: you now get a dedicated heal instawin button that takes 1/4 of the time chugging estus did
the sony shills are shilling hard today for their only game, it's pretty pathetic to be honest
>>321575468
I'm a PC user and I love this game.
>>321574829
>Source
My ass
I trol u
>>321575363
I wish Souls games had a character creator on the league of Dragon's Dogma.
>>321575468 (you)
>>321574918
Here's mine.
Post smashing hunters.
>>321575468
>
2 longswords in the entire game m8, and they have very different two-handed versions
>
2 greatswords in the game, both completely different from each other
>
shoot once, wait for a wake up hit - done.
I know playing video games is difficult, but at least watch videos of the game before you shitpost
>>321575756
>Bring to an end the horror
Appropriate.
>>321575468
sounds like you're just burned out on souls games.
>>321575664
they really should drop sliders for something else.
>>321575853
What's the easiest way to transfer the pictures from my PS4? Please tell me it's not only via USB.
>>321576240
Upload to twitter.
>>321576240
You could post them in a comunity wall and then save them... I think.
USB...
>>321576408
Oh well. I'll see if there's a dropbox application or something similar, if not, tough shit I guess.
>>321576776
Just make Twitter for dumping pics.
Cyberpunk Souls when?
>Enhancement nanomachines instead of souls
>Derelict hueg space station/settlement setting
>Teleportation pods instead of bonfires
>Parry with your enhanced cyborg limb instead of the BB guns
>>321575853
I really like the Black Church jacket/scarf.
>>321576240
Basically either via USB or uploading them to Facebook or Twitter or some shit. Yeah, it's annoying.
>>321576835
Hmmm yeah I guess. Gonna use that cock.li account I made.
>>321574830
>
>Not playing as Beltmont with a cane.
Just use a threaded cane and imagine you are playing a 3D remake of Simon's Quest
>>321566074
Where the hell in the game is this? I can't think of an area with openable doors of that style and also church giants.
The areas with church giants are the church and the research hall, and neither have that kind of door or walls.
Bloodborne has objectively superior level design and platforming than DS1
>>321577705
Isn't that the gooey dudes at the lecture hall?
>>321577820
No, he's got the hood and the pendant of the church giants. Specifically the ones with just a sword.
>>321574825
>>321577705
Research Hall I think
>>321571056
>if you hit the Doll you find her blood is pale
>make contact gesture has her acting pleased
GRANT US EYES
>>321571967
The game of Lists
>>321572731
>If you don't want to buy a console for a series then you're not a real fan of that series to be honest.
Well, taking into consideration that literally half of Souls games up to this point are Sony exclusive, real Souls fans must've had at least a PS3 or PS4
I can't imagine myself playing DaS1, then going through the shit that was DaS2 and calling myself a fan. My tastes would be exceptionally shit
>>321570869
Do you have autism?
>>321565971
>axe
>bad at any level
Do you even spin faggot?
