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Is this the most bullshit videogame boss of all time?
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Is this the most bullshit videogame boss of all time?
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He is until you realize you just have to Dodge to the right and you'll avoid everything
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eh, not really. they give you a free summon for it and it's not even required. if you come back at a higher level, he's piss easy.
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The prey was slaughtered on the first attempt. git gud
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Not that the boss fight was particularly difficult, it's just that it took thirty fucking minutes because of super nova spam.
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>>321531140
Did mommy get you Bloodborne for Christmas?

Nah but he's easy to dodge and once he starts poisoning you just stay back and take 1 or 2 hits when you have the chance. It's been a while since I played it but I think he's weak to fire
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Defilement Chalice Keeper of the Old Lords.
Why does she need/have 8k+ hp?
Why the fuck is her defense so high?

Fucking Fromsoft.
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>>321531140
Holy shit kid wait until you hit some actual bosses. Bloodstarved beast first time every time git gud.

But for real carry antidote and learn to fucking dodge you pleb.
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>>321531270
The thing is fail to dodge even once and the fucker pins your character down until you die of slow poisoning.
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Never had much trouble with him before, but on my current run he killed me like six times, while I was using the Rifle Spear. Not sure what the fuck happened there.
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>>321531854
Same here, first try with str build.
7+ tries with my skill build.
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>>321531140
This is hands down the easiest boss to riposte with a gun.
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>>321531140
>not even the hardest boss in his own game
not to mention he's completely optional
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>>321532152
No that's Gascoigne
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>>321532180
I'm pretty sure like half the game is optional content
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>Shadows of Yharnam
Dropped hard. And I'm not summoning. Its literal pay2win
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>>321531140
Man, just wait until you get to the DLC or Defiled Amygdala.
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>>321531140
He looks extremely edgy
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someone posts the webm where it glitches into a corner from a torch and then get.rekt
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>>321531140
Aside from the grab attack with the dumbest windup animation, he's really not that bad
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>titan extreme trial
no matter how overgeared you are, if you get hit by a landslide due to being slow or lagged, you will die
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>>321531140

>Beat it on the first try
>PREY SLAUGHTERED
>Died literally 5 seconds later from poison

mfw. It's a solid fight. Tough but fair.
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>>321531140
SICKDARK
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>>321531571
8k hp is like 10 hits
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>>321532389
>defiled amygdala
Literally just attack its tail on its final phase and stand completely still when it leaps, it always wiffs it
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>>321532404

play the game, faggot
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>>321531270
Rules of nature Anon, gotta kill her before she can kill you.
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This boss is easy as shit when you learn that his sweep attack with his right arm is easily dodged by just dashing towards him.
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>>321531140
ludwig's holy blade and dodge to the right.
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>>321532756
>>321532404
Fuck off
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>>321532292
yeah but BSB is the 3rd boss you could meet on your playthrough. he's not like ebrietas
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>>321532352
They are one of the easier bosses in the game you massive casual.

Laurence NG+++ is some real bullshit.
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>>321531140
He's just really gimmicky with the final poison phase.
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I thought the electric guy was the hard one?

also anyone know if chalice dungeons are any good? getting this game on along with my bloodborne machine soon.
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>>321532352
Just save the fire breather for last and it's easy, use the big headstone as a barrier, stop being fucking bad
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>>321533130
Paal is also optional
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>>321533024
i had a hard time with them, but i killed bsb and amelia on my second and first time respectively.
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>pungent blood cocktail
>fire paper
>R1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1
>pungent blood cocktail
>R1 L1 L1 L1 L1 L1

Ive been able to speedrun up to killing BSB in about 10-20 minutes without visiting the hunter's dream and with only the saw spear

Basically acquire proficiency, there are much more bullshit bosses, but yes BSB is the Flamefucker of BB.
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>>321532352
You know the one with the flame sprayer can kill the other two in a matter of seconds?
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>>321533130
>also anyone know if chalice dungeons are any good?
Unless you want to get some good blood gems, not really
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Every boss teaches you something. BSB teaches you that dodging away will fuck you up, that you need to dodge into its attacks.
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>>321531140
MOM'S GONNA FREAK
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>>321532923
>>321531270
>dodge to the right

You mean walk to the left.
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>>321533130
chalice dungeons are a good way to get hard content without going NG+.
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>>321533130
i did the dungeons for a bit thought it was okay, but most people here hate it, because it is repetitive i think.
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>>321531281
>summon
I'm disregarding your opinion.
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>>321533284
damn are the bosses good at the very least?
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>>321531140
Is that the one in the church down in Old Yharnam? He glitched out of the map and killed himself for me.
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>>321532827
Gonna have to try that, thanks.
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bsb really wasn't that bad. I think 3rd try on my first run, first try on second. Had much more trouble with amelia on my first run. Rom too but that was just me being retarded trying to rush rom down asap rather than taking my time with the spiders.
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>>321533024
Laurence is easy but estus consumer, Orphan of Kos however... holy shit am I mad
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You have to shoot it when it raises it's right hand slowly and then stab it's face. The boss is only hard because if you fuck up once you will get Bill Cosby'd by the poison and it's grab.
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Post bosses people consider hard but you had no trouble on

>bloody crow of cainhurst
>rom
>bsb
>Gascoigne
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as long as old SNK fighters exist, no.
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>>321531140
That guy becomes a regular enemy in the dlc man
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>>321533449
Eh, I liked some of them. Abhorrent Beast is pretty fun, as is Pthumerian Descendant.
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are any of the weapons in the DLC area a bitch to find?
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>>321533664
>FlameLurker
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>>321533693
I'll probably go through with them then, I'm a whore for bosses.
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>>321533664
bsb and man eaters
I don't think I have ever died once to man eaters
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Gee I sure do wonder where OP is stuck right now.

To answer your question though, no fuck no.
Really the only bullshit boss in bloodborne is the headless bloodletting best, and that's really only because the arena you fight him in in the plot chalice dungeons is way too cramped
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>>321533664
Ludwig. I beat him first try and only after went on to see everyone bitching about it.
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>>321532923
>need to beat BSB before getting Ludwig
Nice one anon , I'm not on ng+
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>>321531140
We don't forget him
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>>321532352
Shadow's of Yharnam is super easy solo, though, unless you have brain problems. They were one of the bosses I beat on my first try
>>321533449
So of them are alright, but some of them are also just regular mobs with buffed up stats and slightly different movesets, or repeats from the main game in different locations
>>321533812
Rakuyo is hidden behind 2 giant sharkmen that can be a bitch to kill. Bloodletter requires you to get through most of the DLC to get. Simon's Bowblade either requires you to kill an NPC or wait until near the end of the DLC. Kos Parasite is pretty much gotten at the end of the DLC
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>>321533664
Orphan of Kos
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>>321533664
>bloody crow of cainhurst

It's really not hard but he does so much damage that the slightest fuckup is a do-over. It's really the only true artificial difficulty in BB
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>>321533812
Beast Cutter is in the starting area
Amygdalan arm is basically a suicide run to get to
Beasthunter Saif is before Ludwig
as is the Whirligig
Boom Hammer is near the BSB cave where the arm is
killing Ludwig will get the moonlight greatsword
Church Pick is right after Ludwig
Simon's Bowblade is after Maria
Rakuyo is a bitch to get
Bloodletter is gained from killing an invading hunter like 5 times
Kos Parasite for beating the DLC

the parasite, rakuyo, and bloodletter are a pain in the ass to get
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>>321533664
>bloody crow of cainhurst
Wait which one was that?
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>>321534328
the guy in the Cathedral at the end of Eileen's quest line
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the church didn't want people finding out about the Fishing Hamlet, which I can understand, but why didn't they send hunters into it to try and kill the orphan?
Was Maria just too strong for anyone to kill?
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>>321531140
>>321532352
Did some children get Bloodborne for Christmas? DSP is better than you guys.
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>>321532404
>>321532756
Go want MLP if you don't want anything spooky.
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>>321534061
He held the line, never forget.
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>>321531140
Shit, Unfair, Horrible made area before the boss,
Is a Reskin
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>>321533664
>Ludwig
>Orphan of Kos
>Martyr Logarius (have never died to him)
>Ebrietas
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I would rather fight every bloodborne boss at once than fight Royal Rat Vanguard
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>>321532352
I did them solo, and I'm shit at the game. Apply yourself you fat fuck.
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>>321531571
Keeper of the Old Lords is so easy to parry, also if you shoot her while she is powering up her sword, it stops it.


Also for anyone who might be having trouble against Defiled Amy, when she jumps, just stand still. The only winning move is not to play.
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>Have to grind for vials
>Have to pay to play online
>Can't block
>Armor is useless
>Weak ass guns used for counters
Game is shit.
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>>321536258
lol2cat
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>playing ffx as a youngling
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>>321533812
Church Cannon is at the bottom of an elevator shaft right after Ludwig's Fight
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>>321537008
If you have to grind for vials just put the game down and go play some shitty mobile game you underage child
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>>321537008
>Can't block
>Armor is useless
>Weak ass guns used for counters
Sounds like you want to play a different game.
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>>321537008

>Have to grind for vials
Or you could buy them from the merchants in the dream with left over blood?

>Have to pay to play online
Bullshit I'll admit, sony dropped the ball hard on PSN

>Can't block
That's the point of the game, it's about being on the offensive rather than the defensive

>Armor is useless
So like every souls game aside from 1-2 sets?

>Weak ass guns used for counters
I don't see the issue? Guns can become really strong if you use bone marrow ash and the right bloodgems. making them OP would just force people to cheese every boss they encountered
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>>321537008
>he thought it was a baby tier hack and slash game
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>>321537008
Go back to dark souls
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Are there really people who complain about blood starved beast? Father Gascoigne was harder than that. Hell Djura was a more difficult fight than that.
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>>321537582

BSB threw me off the first time just because of the grab it does but yeah it's not hard at all
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>>321537963
If you follow the most basic of strategies for souls bosses you shouldn't be standing in front of it anyways. Just simply knowing that was enough to keep me from getting destroyed. The poison threw me off but I was able to get it to my quick items fast enough.
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>>321533370
this here
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>bloodstarved beast
>hard

THROW BLOOD COCKTAIL IN CORNER OF ROOM
R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1
THROW IT AGAIN
R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1
THROW IT AGAIN
R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1
ONE MORE TIME
R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1R1
DEAD
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>>321538869
I'm utterly amazed at the amount of people who don't know that a BLOODSTARVED beast wouldn't react to a BLOOD COCKTAIL

Fucking retards
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>>321538869
God. Of course that would work.
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>>321531140
Not even the hardest boss of the game. Hell not even the hardest boss of the early game.
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I bet you haven't even met Crowsteel yet.
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>>321533664
Ornstein and Smough. Beat them on my first try blind NG. every single play through after, even once I had used the internet to learn all the ins and outs of the game, and knew enough of the mechanics to optimize builds it takes me like ten tries.

It must have been a combination luck and aligned stars, plus the thrill of fighting them my first time blind meant I was on the edge of my seat and top of my game.

But I still don't know how I pulled it off really.
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>watching a friend play through BB
>he completely aces shit that took you several tries while barely paying attention
>he then proceeds to get stuck for hours on a part you blazed through on your first try
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Any boss in souls that you have to fight while constrained by the environment. From soft's player hitboxes extend outside of the walls and buildings and shit. So fucking unfair. In before get good
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>>321540447
Large bosses in constrained rooms where the camera completely borks out when you get closer to the walls are annoying, I tend to lock off in fights like that just to remedy the camera issue somewhat
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>>321537110
That fight was bullshit but the bigger bullshit was that the rest of the game was piss easy after her
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>>321539848
Was talking about this with a buddy, there is no 'hardest' boss in Bloodborne. It's different for how people play the game, I never had trouble with Gascgoine or BSB but for some people it's damn near impossible. Hardest boss for me was Ludwig. Must've tried 30 times. Any pre-DLC bosses after Rom were all EZ PZ for me. Just depends on the person.
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>>321541245
It's pretty much the truth. I think I got Laurence on my third try without even really thinking about it, then I go on /v/ and see a bunch of posts and OPs screaming about how fucking difficult he is.
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>>321539848
>friend is blazing through the game like he's on ez mode
>start feeling inferior
>then he gets stuck on rom
>fucking rom
>he can't beat the boss that only has 3 attacks
I couldn't stop myself from laughing when he told me
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>watch someone stream the DLC
>they summon 3 co-op partners for literally every boss, including living failures

What's even the point? Even the Orphan was like "this is some bullshit guys".
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>>321541749

To be fair, Rom can be a bitch if you fuck up even slightly or get a tab bit too greedy.

Even watching people do speedruns or permadeath runs Rom seems to be the most consistent run killer out of all the bosses in the main game.
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>>321531140
BSB is easy as shit even in chalice dungeons
rom is always a bitch though
>lol let me trash around and do 60% dmg while my spiders fuk ur cunt
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The only boss which gave me frustration was BSB. Had to summon for'em because I did not have the patience to grind antidotes. Other than that it was quite smooth. SoY was tricky but beatable if you have a strategy.
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It's a pretty easy boss but it is just a big departure from other bosses in the souls series so people seem to think it is difficult.

He has a lot more health and is a lot faster than most bosses in souls games, so you cannot afford to play defensibly. Dodge to the right of his attacks and you can avoid almost all of them really easily. Be sure to be constantly attacking.
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>>321534017
Let me guess lvl 150?
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>>321532352
Shadows of Yharnam are pretty hard but there is a trick to beating them really ez.

Kill the katana one first, then attack the other two in equal amounts so that they always have close to the same health. Then when they're down to about 1 third each, kill one and quickly kill the other so you don't get snake'd.
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>>321537413
>Bitting the bait
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>>321531140
Go fight Laurence
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>>321542570
>not just hit and running
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>>321536946
>she
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>>321542638
>SoY was tricky but beatable if you have a strategy.
The shadows are piss easy up until only one is left and he starts summoning giant sneks. The fact that they can hit you through the rock in phase 2 is bullshit though.
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>>321532152
Nigga did you even fight maria
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>>321542909
NG+ Actually.
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>>321531140
>Is this the most bullshit videogame boss of all time?

No, BSB is totally optional. If you're having that much trouble then come back later.

Bloodborne doesn't have any bullshit bosses that are mandatory. Rom is easy when you learn how to multitask. Everything else is varying stages of get good.

Hardest bosses relative to when you fight them are BSB, Logarius, Laurence, and the Defiled bosses. And even then none of them are UNFAIR, they're just difficult.
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>>321531140
There are no bosses in NG outside of chalices that are bullshit or even very difficult.
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>>321531140
Dodge left and use fire paper + BBPellets.
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>>321533434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ESHXxInoAs&user=rob1969in
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Is this the most bullshit video game boss of all?
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>Ludwig's gimmick is that he does absurdly huge damage with all attacks AND he can combo you on the ground for way more than 1K damage, and you need to dodge his lunge attack perfectly or it will 1-shot you
>The genius of his second phase is that the first phase trains you to dodge early and react quickly, and the second phase has him delaying attacks on purpose to fuck you with his sword

>Bloodstarved's gimmick is that it poisons you for free
>You can fuck it with fire

>Maria's gimmick is that she changes her range three times and most of her attacks are absurdly quick

>Orphan's gimmick is that it's random as fuck and has changing ranges and has a projectile and AOE attacks
>He's basically a pumped up and fucked up version of a hunter

These designs are okay, but they could have toned it down with the damage and one-shots in the DLC. I got stunlocked for well above 1.5k damage by the big head patients that literally just slapped my body gently and did all that fucking damage. Miyazaki needs to sit down with a programmer and learn how to balance the damage output on enemies, since this isn't exclusively a Bloodborne thing. Most Souls games have enemies that can slap you with their bare hands and do boss-tier damage on you for no real reason.
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>>321543416
I countered that by being very aggressive. Using the axe's R2 to cause knockdown.
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Stage 1
Dodge under boss' right arm (your left) and hit in back

Stage 2
Same as 1 but casually walk behind boss while it wildly flails in front of itself before hitting in back

If the boss goes unresponsive for a couple seconds it's about to grab you. Wear Gascoigne set for poison resist. Never back down to heal because the boss can lunge forward quickly, always dodge before using an item

2ez BSB is the only boss I can consistently ace without getting hit
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>>321531140

he was bullshit, but I just got myself summoned by people to fight him over and over so that I could grind some levels and learn his pattern and then it was easy enough.

Vicar Amelia on the otherhand really was bullshit, despite all of my attempts I still had to pussy out and summon to beat her. I feel ashamed.
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>>321533130
Paal is literally just stand under him, dodge telegraphed AOEs, hit him until he's stunned, then you continuously stun him until he dies.
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Best souls boss coming through

>tfw youre the only person on the planet capable of killing kalameet on sl1 while fatrolling

pleb on, plebs
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>>321532629
>no matter how geared you are.
get good nigger
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>>321533130
>>321545069

Paarl gave me a lot of trouble the first time I fought him because I kept trying to play it too safe. Then one run I just said fuck it and ran in swinging without even caring and downed him first try.
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>Most bullshit boss of all time
Ahem.
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>>321544957

lol? i beat her sl1 pretty easily
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close
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>>321531140
IDK young me thought that Panzer Dragoon: Orta's final boss was the ultimate bullshit and I never beat it, and now somehow I can't even get back to the cuck in my 20's, so I'll assume I was right.

I just remember being unable to avoid his attacks when he did a certain thing, like nothing at all allowed me to not get hit.
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>>321531140
>Bullshit
>Just a semi challenging parry boss
>Not even a threat in any way shape or form once you realize you can walk to the left and never get touched by anything

Please kill yourself. Its as easy as that you can dodge/walk to the left and he has nothing he will always miss.
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>>321545597

Paarl and camerabeast are see-saw bosses, they're tough as shit when they're on top and you're defending, but once you start dominating they just fall into a constant cycle of running away and getting stunned
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>look up BB boss fights
>some faggot's three-shotting all bosses with 99 in all stats
>no challenge, no effort, literally just spamming bullets for the parries and then R1 spamming for the staggers and viscerals
>people in the comments are genuinely praising him for his skill
Is this the dumbest community of any souls game?
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>>321546190

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiDbB_J5V4Y
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>>321531140
I just started Bloodborne and Cleric Beast killed me twice before I realized I'm an idiot and that I can stagger it. For some reason I didn't think I could so I was just dancing away from it and hitting it once like every few seconds and doing fuckall damage. Almost won that way too.

Point is, this game is fun so far and I'm retarded so it should provide me some extra hours of enjoyment.
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I should really get around to beating this game and playing the DLC.

I only ended up playing for an hour on release because the setting put me off.
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>>321545984
>its only easy when you figure out the flaw in its AI and abuse hitboxes
So we DaS2 now?
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>>321546364
amelia is such a qt
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>>321539848
>>321541749
What people have trouble with in Fromsoft games really seems to vary like a motherfucker. In DaS I watched a friend effortlessly walk through shit I had horrible trouble with, then get stuck on Quelaag, who I considered to be an absolutely effortless boss (just take off all your armor and fucking run).
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>>321546364
You can tell how much the panic intensifies in the last 40 seconds.
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>>321546569
>Abuse
Its not my fault Miyazaki is too fucking idiotic to make sure his boss has a counter for walking in a simple fucking direction. Also its pretty easy before the only risk is possibly getting thrown in phase 3 since its still the same parry timings.

Its like saying you're abusing Paarls AA when you knock him down and then repeatedly knock him down when he tries to get back up.

Sorry kid a poorly designed game is just poorly designed. Although i think BB is designed well overall in these two cases i mentioned its not the players fault. These also aren't even hard to notice strategies. Its like saying you're abusing Micolash's AI in phase 2 by shooting him out of CoB well comboing him when ur stamina comes back and repeating.

All the DLC bosses are well designed without having these gapping holes in their fucking design. Then you have bosses like Celestial Emissary and Hemwick Witches where you'd have to have a fucking heart attack just to have a possible chance to lose.

Plus you can dodge to the right as well you can basically dodge around BSB all day and he can't do anything. I hardly see how that is abusing a "flaw" in its AI friend. Its AI is just fucking terrible in general and only a slight threat if you fight it straight in front of its face.
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Am I missing out not playing online for BB?
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>>321533370
yeah this is best tactic
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>>321547659
No. All you stand to gain from playing online is rage when some chuckle fuck with a bad connection decides he'd like to inconvenience you.
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I want to fuck this so fucking badly.
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>>321547659
PVP isn't nearly as good as past souls games, not really missing much unfortunately.
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>>321548535
PvP has always been shit. Some faggots just decided to make it legit in Das 1
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Use fire paper on it when you can. Or any fire based damaged. Only lock on to it when you are about to strike or don't know where it is. Also, stun it as much as possible.

Not as hard as some of the other bosses, but you can skip this if it really is that annoying. (It's optional)
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>>321531140

All these people talking about dodging, I thought this boss was to teach you about that revengeance ability to get your stuff back.

I found him hard to fight when I was paying attention to his moves, but when I just got hit by his weak ass attacks and used revengeance to get my health back he was easy. Poison phase you just got to watch your health more and use vials.
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>>321532352
Almost beat them my first try. Just completely forgot about the snake summons and their reach.

Get good fag.
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>>321547659
It is quite fun to co-op the game with a friend, though it involves doing bosses twice.
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>>321545442
>killing kalameet
that's the easy part of the fight
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>>321531571
>not just using Whirligig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVOMdStNQRo
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He's such an easy boss, but yes he's absolute bullshit. I don't say this out of frustration. just purely on the fact alone that he clips into any and all walls almost entirely making him impossible to hit at some point and the poison damage he delivers is absurd. The game is usually fair in the rules it sets but this is the most video gamey boss there is in the game.
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>>321531140
You cannot rip that flayed leathery hide and wear it as a leathery cape and then once dried feel the smoothness of the inside section of the cape.
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>>321546190
It's not given. It's earned by playing the game. You can get to this point in literally any rpg game. I don't see what the problem is.
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>>321551350
You can something that's not as good as what you mentioned in the DLC it's part of Brador's set
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Almost. This one was a bitch
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