Are you excited for this, /v/?
optimistic but not excited
waiting for beta
Not after the disasters known as Wasteland 2 and Pillars of Eternity.
I'll try it out but expectations are extremely low.
>>321522669
I guess it will be okay, but I haven't been following the development. When is it coming out? The KS was not that much apfter PoE's, which came out like 9 months ago.
>>321523889
>disasters known as Wasteland 2 and Pillars of Eternity
what's so bad about them? I need very detailed description
>>321524047
Nothing at all, I've played both that guy is shit posting
>>321524182
or he is just from codex
>>321523889
>trying to pass as a fact that they were disasters when they had great critical+fan reception
I hate you and everyone like you.
>>321524047
They're both glib facsimiles.
>>321522669
Games that ugly shouldn't exist
and that's before we go into 'gameplay'
>>321524771
like pretty much everything? like they suppose to be?
seriously what did you expect
>>321523060
This. I mean, turn-based combat sounds nice, and dialogues look okay, but you have to play it to like it. Besides, we already know that it can be mediocre, as devs already proved that they can make mediocre products.
>>321524906
nigga this game looks great
>>321525434
First of all, that is concept art, as generic fantasy crapola as you can get. You must like MtG.
Second, this is how the in game stuff looks like. I hope you shill 4free
>>321525913
Not him, but it looks better than P:T, and it's okay in my book. It's like you niggers don't like to read or something.But if the writing is bad nothing will save it.
Is it really possible to write a decent cohesive story when you have like 6 different writers?
>>321525913
>concept art
lol
>700x392
>generic fantasy
>>321526307
That looks so incredibly bad.
>>321525913
Not him, but I can live with that.
>>321526429
maybe you should go back to crysis or your weeb shit? why are you even here?
I don't care about the graphics, I just hope they won't ruin the game I love with female protag meme
>>321527072
It does look incredibly bad. Quite vomit inducing. Even fucking PoE, which turned out to be an absolute failure, looked better. Now go back to chocking on Fargo's cock.
>>321527178
>meme
Please just fucking end yourself.
>>321527285
why are you so fucking jaded? post some good looking games in your opinion
>>321527372
Jaded? Nigger I just said that the game looks horrible (and it does), that's it.
>>321525913
>dialog window takes 3/4 of the screen
jesus christ. make that shit as small as it needs to be.
>>321527471
it's not
your shitty opinions are not facts
>>321527646
It does, but you're too much of a drone to realize that.
>>321526307 is a horrible on so many levels it's quite outstanding.
I am truly sorry for you. May God have mercy upon your soul.
>>321527764
any reason why you hate on this game before even playing?
>>321526307
I think that's just a really ugly location.
>>321527909
Oh, I don't even want to play this. I merely pointed out that it looks like ass and for some reason that triggered you big time.
>>321527285
>>321527764
>another hyperbolic idiot who claims PoE to be a complete failure getting butthurt about Torment
Like Clockwork
>>321522669
Interested, but hardly excited. The writing always tends to turn up mediocre.
>>321527998
>triggered you
you wish
>I don't even want to play this
welcome to /v/
>>321527178
I'm not even sure what you are talking about. The game was planned with a female protag from day one, until they added a male protag stretch goal by popular demand. Of course the irony is that most people completely missed they were unlocking the male one with it, not the female.
>>321525913
>his mouth quirks into a hard smile
>his eyes grow soft and protective
Why do fantasy writers have to do this
>>321528358
Because it's descriptive writing and they can't show it to you? Have you never read a book in your life or something?
>>321525082
You would think more than a decade would be enough to have at least an improvement over the old games.
>>321528545
Why does it need to be hackneyed and trite?
>>321528358
Yeah that shit kind of bothered me too. Didn't mind it at all in P:T, but in PoE it felt out of place.
>>321528545
Or you could use your imagination? Do you really need to be.told a character is smiling or frowning throughout their dialogue?
>>321528545
Purple prose is generally considered bad writing among literate patricians.
Post those excerpts in /lit/ as evidence of acceptable writing and see how long you last.
>>321528669
>improvement
what kind of improvements? first person view and dialogue wheel?
>>321523889
Here's your undeserved (you), you shit-caked pretentious retard
Kill yourself
>>321528901
Turn based gameplay akin Divinity orignal sin would be a good change. Or they could make the combat like Dragon's dogma if they're still aiming for the real time combat.
And for the stories, they could start by not having atrocious pacing and no interesting premise at the start.
>>321522669
I just hope they do setting justice, even if I don't really like the ruleset that much.
>>321529019
Ouch. Did he touch a nerve?
>>321529019
He's right though. Those two games were massive disappointments.
So we can pretty much agree that the only good RPG to come out of Kekstarter was Dragonfall, right?
>>321523889
Are you me?
>>321524401
>they had great critical+fan reception
The core backers hated it and were very critical of it. Only the /r/Games idiots jumped on the bandwagon.
>>321529057
torment will be turn based
>combat like Dragon's dogma
in a game with pre-rendered isometric backgrounds?
>>321525913
How can you live with having such objectively shit taste and opinions? Hint, hint
>>321529083
>that pickaxe hand
>>321524047
Boring unbalanced gameplay and bad writing
>>321529019
>being this triggered
You're right, his post should have had a trigger warning.
>>321529280
I didn't say it had to be an isometric game. That's another problem with the game, albeit not really a big one.
>>321529083
I kinda want that character sheet, though.
>>321529354
The amount of shitposting underage contrarians itt is the real spirit of the holidays
>>321529083
see for yourself, the npc models look preaty normal to me
>>321522669
Only if 3d environments plus much MUCH better gameplay. Story and dialogues are garanteei hope.
>>321522669
Of all Kikestarter RPGs I oddly enjoyed Wasteland 2 the most. It isn't a pretty deep experience but neither was Wasteland 1. But the writing was really spot on and saved the game for me.
If they manage to at least keep the writing at the same level as Wasteland 2 I'm pretty happy.
>>321529268
>The core backers hated it
people from codex are not core backers
>>321529727
Sure buddy, whatever you say.
>>321529354
>unbalanced gameplay
>pillars of eternity
You gotta try harder mang
>>321529432
>That's another problem with the game
I hate you so fucking much
>>321527602
>you seem preoccupied
>no YOU
10/10 dialogue. Obsidian does it again boys.
>>321524047
Don't know about Wasteland 2, but I can tell you about PoE.
Let's start with the story. At the beginning of the game you're bombarded with names, locations, characters, and that would be good if they weren't so many and weren't so uninteresting. Also it just never goes anywhere, there's a moment in the game where you're told that if you do not make haste you will eventually lose your mind or something like that. Well guess what? Nothing happens, you can spend your entire time dicking about and nothing is ever mentioned again about that. Honestly PoE's story was one of the most boring and uninteresting stories I've seen in a recent RPG. Only two characters in the game are somewhat interesting, but even they get really boring after a while.
Now the gameplay is rather odd. You get no XP from killing enemies, you only get XP from quests and bestiary entries. That just doesn't work since you'll have to fight a boatload of enemies and you can't really avoid most of them. Combat just doesn't feel rewarding at all, especially since the items you find are so boring. Most "unique" items you find are just normal items with a +2 to damage or other such lame enchantment.
The two major cities in the game just feel so dead. Seriously, you barely see any citizens walking about (most of them just stand still day and night) and the cities are mostly filled with those special snowflake backer NPCs. Honestly it feels as if they cut out normal citizens just to have those Godlike backer NPCs everywhere. Thank goodness you can kill them and nobody gives a shit.
The soundtrack is pretty generic. It's your standard cRPG "epic" mumbo jumbo that plays over and over. Could've probably used a few more tracks.
That's all I can remember for now. There are probably a ton of things I forgot to mention.
I think the Pillars of Eternity is too balanced (not enough room for variety). While Wastelands is over-engineered with the choices with not enough deep, organic or otherwise.
>>321529432
So then you just didn't want that style of game at all. Why did you play it?
>>321530062
>>321527602
Am I just a gigantic retarded moron for thinking the writing in PoE is a disaster? I don't get people who praise the shit out of it.
PoE is terrible because they balanced a single player RPG like it was an MMO and removed everything remotely fun.
The writing is terrible and you can hear Obsidian jerking themselves off over how amazing and interesting they think their not-D&D setting is.
>>321530114
finally someone with an opinion, thanks
>>321530341
Because there's a lot of it and it's by Obsidian so it's gotta be good!
>>321529536
I haven't met a single person who really enjoyed those games. I do not like it when people just refuse to acknowledge my honest opinions by calling them "shitposting"
>>321530341
>mfw that Elf character and the "twist" towards the end of the game
Something so hilariously stupid that only Obsidian could've come up with.
>>321530341
>writing in PoE is a disaster
but why?
>>321529727
I don't trust you enough. Care to give proof to your claim,skeleton?
>>321528545
>they can't show it to you in a visual medium
>>321530706
I found it to be really boring. They tried way too hard to be new, interesting and exciting, but it just comes off as "hey look how totally not-dnd we are! aren't we original?".
Also am I the only one who couldn't stand all those idiotic names in the game?
>>321530693
thanks god we have som good developers like bethesda and bioware to save us from those retarded obsidiots
I mean, who wants elf character with a twist when you can ride the bull
>>321530114
>Nothing happens, you can spend your entire time dicking about and nothing is ever mentioned again about that.
They tried this with FO1 and it got patched out. Nobody likes timed quests.
>>321530938
then what should they do instead?
>>321531079hurr durr the god's aren't real! Except they quite literally are! I know what to do, I'll make it known throughout the world that they aren't real, even though they are. That'll surely be for the good of all!
Yeah, nah, fuck off.
>>321524305
5:0
>>321531196
Be DnD, which is what made Torment such a great game.
I really enjoyed Wasteland 2. Granted, it was pretty flawed.
>>321531341
>Torment
>great game
>>321531236
Are you retarded or are you just pretending?
The gods in PoE are man-made which makes them fake gods.
>>321531079
DA:I is a better written game than PoE.
>>321531236
there were artificial, definitely real but not real at the same time
are you a christian?
>>321529354
If anything they're far too fucking balanced.
>>321531449
>>321531513
Here come the obsidiots to defend this shitty writing.
>>321531684
we're just pointing out that you don't even know what you're talking about
>>321531513
>definitely real but not real at the same time
They seemed pretty real, especially since you LITERALLY talk to them at some point.
>>321530706
As I said, could be that I'm just a giant pleb but IMO the game nerver tries to sell or hook you to it's story and world. It's like everyone in that world is like "yeah so we got this crazy shit going on but... whatever". Dunno I can't really point at specific scenarios because I dropped the game really early at it's release but I just wasn't really entertained.
>>321530831
>>321528358
>devs have unlimited money
Good job, retards!
>>321532018
Sounds like you were never interested in it to begin with, senpai.
I'm happy we live in the kind of age where some developers can actually make content that isn't AAA and still achieve the same or nearly the same amount of a title back in the 90s.
I was missing RPGs like that coming out since Neverwinter Nights 2.
I know there were other games but they weren't that interesting or a shitty NEW take on something that was not flawed (microtransactions for epic loot, SKILLWHEELS, consoleports, ARpg of a CRpg etc.). I think too many dev people think they have to be like marketed shit like biowarescum rpgs and need to give the player a "new" perspective to grab more money which in my perspective is bullshit, but understandable.
I'm happy there is some kind of retro-wave happening for the last 2-3 years that give actual nerds what they want, instead of muh graphics, muh sjw pro tag, muh meme references etc. which focused on catering to the big bang theory hipster "nerds" / cake is a lie audience.
TL,dr: I'm mildly hyped for the genre itself, don't care what installment is developed.
>>321531962
yes but not real in the traditional sense, they were created by ancient race because gif releted
>>321531236
It didn't matter that they were artificial, but in order for the Engwithans' plan to work that had to remain a secret. Elf cunt temporarily fucked that up, but she died a pretty crappy death, and you can fuck her up even worse near the ending. She definitely had it coming.
>>321532102
donate more to their kickpatreon then
can't have those drawings linger unfinished
>>321532269
Gotta admit, real time with pause always kinda turns me off but before PoE's release I was a gigantic Obsididrone and I was sure that it wouldn't bother me because I also enjoyed Kotor 2 for it's great story.
>>321532589
I want to protect Elf cunt smile
Do people unironically like Bethesda's writing?
Why do they keep hiring that spic to write their games?
>>321527285
I want RPGcodex to leave
>>321533056
I'd say Fallout 4 is the first beth game that's had decent writing. Dunno if it's the same writers.
>>321532102
You don't need unlimited money to not use pointless purple prose in the middle of a dialogue
>>321530341
>I don't get people who praise the shit out of it.
You've never met fan boys before?
>>321533056
I unironically like the writing in Morrowind.
Don't know why they replaced that writer guy for a 10 year old with ADHD tho.
>>321533337
>written by Emil Pagliarulo
It is.I haven't played Fallout 4 yet so I can't judge that.
>>321533518
It's not just fan boys. It's also people who never played an old isometric RPG and just want to belong to the party.
>tfw you are the only person on /v/ excited for the game because of Clarke's Third Law
>>321533759
here we fucking go, seriously just fuck off to codex you nostalgia filled grognard
>>321533903
wat
>>321533779
I read the PnP. The world is interesting. I dunno if they'll be able to pull it off on PC though.
>>321533759
I seriously doubt neo-v cares about this. It's probably just the drones.
I regret backing this after hearing they hired the guy who wrote the name of the Wind garbage.
>>321534083
I tried to read the first book and dropped it midway. I fucking hate Gary Stu shit.
>>321534083
>tfw some guy is currently shitting up the fant/sci-fi general on /lit/ because people dared to tell him this his precious NotW garbage is just that: garbage
>tfw this thread is shat up by people who hate PoE and cannot handle a single solitary person daring to have one single positive opinion or outlook towards the game
Numenera is a fucking dogshit setting and it breaks my heart that all this talent is being wasted on it. I'm also pissed that they're cashing in on the Torment name.
>tfw no Dark Sun or Eberron CRPG ever
>>321534426
>all this talent
Like for example.
>>321534508
not you
>>321534426
There are plenty of generic games for generic settings already though.
>>321533605
Morrowind had like five or six different writers contributing about equally.
>>321534662
I know you're baiting, but Dark Sun and Eberron are as far from generic as possible.
Dark Sun is post-apocalyptic Sumerian city-states where magic is damaging and psychic mantis gladiators are common character options. Eberron is magitek 1920s Europe with dinosaur-riding halflings and Mongol elves.
>>321534987
>post-apocalyptic
>far from generic
>>321534987
Sounds like boring ORIGINAL SETTING DONUT STEAL shit, senpai. It's trying way too hard.
Is obsidian the most overrated dev ever?what do you think guys?
>>321535117
Post-apocalyptic fantasy isn't exactly common, anon. It's all dudes with donkey jawbones and gypsy elves riding giant spiders.
>>321535127
>generic shit sucks!
>unique shit sucks!
Go watch a documentary if you hate fantasy so much.
>>321535334
They have never created a great game. People praise them because they're better than Bethesda, though that's not saying much
>>321534781
So why did they dump them all for a single talentless beaner?
>>321536093
Maybe you think the setting in Morrowind is cool but there really is no possible way you could think that the writing is good.
>>321536732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JweTAhyR4o0
>>321522669
>Are you excited for this, /v/?
nah, it looks like a 90s game.
>>321530114
Not to mention the lack of variety and FUN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLIq4ceXZAw
I was excited a few years ago, anyway
>>321524305
Even codex liked wasteland 2.
>>321536093
One left because of a disagreement we still don't know much about. One got a better job elsewhere. Third is a mix of the above two. Fourth only bailed after Oblivion. Fifth and sixth still work for Bethesda. Todd too, he also did some writing duty in MW.
>>321537334
>TUN making videos again
huh
>>321537728
how horryfying
>>321523889
They're definitely not masterpieces, but I wouldn't consider them outright disasters.
Feels like the new WRPGs are doing the same thing JRPGs are, in that instead of trying to better imitate pnp RPGs they're just trying to imitate older WRPGs and focusing on kewl settings
