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Why do people act like MGSV was the only MGS game with a painfully
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Did you forget about this little title?
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Not only was MGS 4's story considerably worse than MGS V's, it didn't help it was shoved down your throat for the entirety of that game.
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>>321515048
samefag
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>>321515103
>He doesn't know how to check IP count
>3 / 1 / 3 / 2

Newfag :^)
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>>321515103
All anons are samefags.
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>>321514735
Mgs4 was more an mgs game that PW or TPP ever were.
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MGS4 was a complete game with a beginning, middle and end.
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The MGS Cycle means the game released before the current one is automatically the best one.
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>>321515149
>implying op didn't change his IP
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lOL I'M A GIRL BUT I'M STILL THE BESTEST SOLDIER TO EVER LIVE AND THE MOST PERFECT PERSON TO EVER LIVE AND EVERYBODY IN THE SERIES LIVES FOR MY PACIFIST BULLSHIT "IDEALS"

DON'T HIT ON ME YOU SILLY BOYS : 3
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>>321515103
He doesnt even pretend to be another person
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MGS4 may have been complete, but it was terrible on every level. If you could buy Act IV by itself it'd be worth it.
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>>321514735
yeah because absolutely no one ever called mgs4 a bad game
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>In a few years I'll be able to emulate it
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>>321515436
Dude, you can emulate the entirety of it on youtube already
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They're both terrible in their own ways. Just because MGSV was disappointing doesn't mean MGS4 was good in hindsight.
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>>321514735
MGSV brought Volgin back from the dead after 21 years with even LESS of a good reason than MGS4 did with bringing Big Boss back. At least that made some sort of sense.
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MGS4 is absolute shit too, but unlike V, it has 2 redeeming qualities that secure it's place in the canon:

-It tells a piece of shit story, but it's a complete one (TOO complete).

-Revengeance, the one true MGS5, is a sequel that really doesn't work without 4 so I guess it's ok to pretend 4 canon. It's a necessary evil.
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>>321514735
It was fucking bad, but it was something.
There were twists, turns, you were taken down a (bad) story path in which there was genuine effort put in to giving certain characters arcs (bad as they may be), and having them fulfill certain roles.
V was a fucking weird void of nothing. Leaving gameplay aside there was just absolutely nothing to comment on.
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>>321515480
In silky smooth 480p
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People need to fuck off with their Zelda cycle and accept that MGS4 is a bad game.

Nonsense plot
Way too much exposition.
Broken gameplay thanks to TPS controls being built upon MGS3, trivialises stealth completely.
Shit bosses, only one step above PW and V.
Absolutely horrendous pacing.

People who like MGS4 are people who like games for their production values and fanservice. One could argue that MGS4 is a meta-commentary on the shallow nature of fanservice, giving people what they want and how one shouldn't dwell on the past. But there is no legitimate proof of that.
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>>321514735
4 was finished V was not
4 was exclusive so people troll
4 had it's problems but at least tied everything up nicely even if nanomachines deus ex machina felt bad

NOPE I didn't forget how good 4 was compared to V

4 isn't the strongest MGS in story but it's far from the worst
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>>321514735
I'd rather have MGS4's corny ridiculous bullshit than have ALMOST NOTHING at all, which is what MGSV gave me.

The games entire 'story' was played out in trailer previews before the game was released.
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>>321515901
>Zelda cycle

What does this mean? There hasn't been a good Zelda game in 13 years
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>>321515973

>no story

So you'd like MGSV if it had hour long cutscenes that explained something that would ultimately mean jack shit by the time the next cutscene rolled around?

PP was flawed and rushed, but it's a much better game on every level that MGS4 was
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zelda cycle
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>>321516042
Exactly.
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I can't even finish PW

It's so dull, gameplay is so limited, missions are so repetitive, story is lame, bosses suck
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>>321514735
MGS4 had a really touching ending so there's that.
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>>321516252

>Meryl marries shitpants after the most cringeworthy gun fight
>retired porn star snake sucks a gun dick while crying
>big boss cause who gives a shit
>crippled nigger murder because why
>credits
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>>321516424
dumb animeposter
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>>321514735
MGS4 was still good. The main problem it had was long scenes where not much is actually happen. When stuff did happen it was great.
I liked MGSV too even if it's a flawed gem :^]
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>>321516151
No one wants MGSV's story to be retarted like MGS4 anon. NO ONE is saying that. What we want is for Venom to maybe not stand/sit like a fucking mute for 90% of the time the the additional salt on the wounds is when he does have his moments, its 100% great,GOAT, fucking A+. "I won't scatter your sorrow to the heartless sea" and have a complete story with actual character arcs. Thats not including the problems with the gameplay.
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>>321516941

Not sure why he doesn't talk more, but I've always seen MGSV as the fan's story.

Every person IS Venom, because they've become him after years of training (the past games), and having Big Boss hand you the reigns to your own personal Outer Heaven was his (Kojima)'s gift to the players.
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>>321517154
To me having this concept is a bad thing, its just not done well at all in MGSV, because most players were expecting to play as BB and thought they were BB and were disappointed when they weren't BB at the end but a no name medic.
Honestly if the game had started with the story about the medic first that then became Venom in Chapter 2 then it would be easier to identify with the MC and have that feeling of being a part of the story. If I'm making any sense that is.
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>>321517586

I doubt even Chapter 3 could have helped the way people felt about the reveal, but without it we'll never know
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>>321517154
yeah but you know what

Its not entertaining. I don't care about deep meaning or anything, it was just not entertaining in any sort of way to watch these 3 minute cutscenes in every 5 hour where everyone is constantly angry and grunts.

Why even, why would anyone think this is a good way to tell story.
Oh and the casette scenes are 95% exposition dumps as well, the codec was the same as well but at least it was delivered by colorful and entertaining characters.
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