So, anybody play the new Heroes of Might and Magic 7?
Is it any good?
Also Heroes of Might and Magic thread.
>>321514098
>that time homm 6 replaced sylvans with the wapanese
I honestly thought they'd fuck up the designs for VII, but it actually looks k.
>>321514382
That rustled my jimmies a bit back then. Kinda felt odd to have HoMM without either Dungeon, Sylvans or Academy.
why are so many russians into HoMM3?
>>321514620
I think even back in 1999 most Russians could run it on their toasters. So I guess it could reach a large audience over there unlike other games.
>>321514620
3DO was into publishing stuff over in Russia. Had ties, I guess.
>>321514620
Good game that doesn't need a good PC. Cheeki breeki.
Necropolis 3 and 5 were awesome. 6 Absolutely destroyed Necropolis' visual theme and story. 7 doesn't seem to do any better.
Fuck those guys, fuck them for not bringing Sandro back. I want my skeletal liches. Heroes 3 undead all looked scary and dreadful, now they keep making them look goofier, prettier and replacing Bone Dragons, Black Knights and skeletal Liches with DRIDERS, SPHINXES AND PRETTY GHOSTS!
>>321514620
Because HoMM is Russia.
Quick, anons, what's the best HoMM a total newcomer can get on Steam?
Check my captcha.
>>321515076
Heroes of Might and Magic 3 HD or Heroes of Might and Magic 5
>>321514979
Ghosts look k tho. Remind me of Horrors from M&M IX.
>>321515181
>Heroes of Might and Magic 3: Shit Edition
You're better off getting normal HoMM 3.
>>321515181
>actually recommending HoMM3 HD
That feel when they will never make anything in the series better than 2 and 3. No matter how many times they try.
>>321514979
Looking at the Necros in VII they seem a lot more similar to the HoMM V Nercos.
Vampires look a bit too pretty. HoMM 3 Nosferatu type vamps were pretty cool but I guess they're keeping up with the HoMM V style of sexy vampires.
tfw no proper successor to homm3 ever
>>321515076
Don't get the steam version. If you're absolutely incapable of finding the game on your own then at least get the GoG version of HoMM 3 complete.
>>321515319
where is that guy from
>>321515319
They probably could. But that would require Ubisoft to put in some money and effort into the series which they won't since it doesn't print money like AC or Far Cry.
>>321514382
The unit design seems quite nice. Especially Dungeon looks kinda cool with the return of Medusas, Troglolytes and stuff.
>>321514979
3 and 5 had the best overall design in the series. They were both quite lovely to look at.
Only thing I still hate to this day is Dungeon being god damned Dark Elves in HoMM5.
>>321514098
It's full of bugs, poorly designed and suffers from horrible AI.
>>321514098
sorry anon its shit, maybe when its 5 or 10 € will buy
>>321515491
martin shkreil, porfessional dickface and chairman of a shit lol team
>>321516870
>>321516801
I guess that had to be expected since Ubisoft just throws the franchise at small devs with no budget and little development time.
I really don't get why they decided to treat the series so poorly even though HoMM5 and Dark Messiah did pretty well.
>>321515076
>on Steam
>>321517387
>tfw even the internet goes down world wide I can still play HoMM 3,4 and 5
>>321517624
>4
why would you do such thing to yourself?
>>321517664
I-i-it has a nice soundtrack...
>>321517624
>4
Dumb frogposter.
>>321517664
It's not as bad as it used to be. I think a lot of people have ill feelings towards it since it was so different compared to 3.
>>321517664
Because it's nowhere near half as bad 6 or 7?
>>321514098
So how are the newer games? I have played the first three games back then and I remember having a fucking blast.
Gentlemen, I love skeletons
Gentlemen, I LOVE skeletons
Which HoMM should I get, as a complete HoMM virgin, to bone as much as humanly possible (while remaining semi viable) ?
>>321518579
3 is the answer to all your questions.
>>321518529
Heroes 4 is very different from the others. It's fun if you can accept that it's not HoMM3.
Heroes 5 is very similar to HoMM3. It's good.
Heroes 6 sucks.
Haven't played Heroes 7.
>>321518579
Did you even look at the OP?
>>321518579
3 or 5. Both have cool necropolis, but 3 has spookier necro theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US9Moa3upTY
>>321518683
>It's fun if you can accept that it's not HoMM3.
I had some fun with the campaigns, but it haves a lot of flaws. Also, its 3D graphics aged like shit, while based sprites or 3 are still great today.
>>321518579
Skelebros are always welcome. Keep it calcium, my nigga.
>>321519027
Well, all of the games have lots of flaws. Heroes 3 has a terrible skill system and imbalanced spell schools, but is still easily the best in the series. Heroes 4 brings a lot of improvements and great ideas, in spite of taking a few steps backward.
>>321519027
I played the campaigns quite a bit myself. It had some pretty nice bits here and there but some design flaws still irk me to this day.
Mostly it's the faction designs though.
So, I've heard some praise for 5.
I've played 3 too much so I'm thinking about getting either 4, 5 or 6 (7 is too expensive).
Which do guys prefer?
>>321520941
5 is like 3 in many ways.
4 is very different but fun.
6 sucks.
>>321520941
5 is basically a rebooted version of H3, even the campaign plot is intentionally similar to H3 since it's H3 rebooted in a different universe.
The art style is WoW-ish though.
4 is very different for which it got a lot of hate but it's actually my favourite precisely due to how much it tried to innovate (even if it didn't resonate well with most of the communtiy that wanted more of the same). Also GOD TIER soundtrack.
6 is pretty but meh, the campaigns are decent enough though the Necropolis one went LITERALLY full on Twilight complete with not-Bella as the protagonist, but the mini-expansion with Sandro and the expansion campaign with Vein make up for it.
7 had a REALLY SHITTY launch with a fuckton of bugs so it got shat on entirely but they actually patched pretty much everything by now and will be releasing free campaigns set in H4 universe complete with unique H4 mechanics and music in those campaigns so they're cool in my book. I mean at least they fucking fixed it instead of abandoning it and are giving new campaigns for free to make up for it.
Art style is a cross between H6 and H3 and mechanically it's very similar to H3 and H5.
I'd say wait until H7 gets cheaper and the new campaigns come out and in the meantime get 4 and 5.
Also don't forget Heroes Chronicles if you haven't played that, they're single player only standalone H3 expansions with story campaigns that tie in directly to H4.
>>321522531
>set in H4 universe complete with unique H4 mechanics and music in those campaigns so they're cool in my book.
Wait, really?
This sounds fucking awesome desu.
>>321522794
Yeah, they're going to be based on 2 campaigns that were supposed to be in H4 and even had entire writing/script for them done but were never implemented since 3DO wanted to rush the release and decided to cut corners with those campaigns. They are taking those scripts and finally putting them to life in form of campaigns in H7.
https://mmh7.ubi.com/en/blog/post/view/the-lost-tales-of-axeoth
>>321522794
>>321523001
Also these two links for more info and interview with original scriptwriter
https://mmh7.ubi.com/en/blog/post/view/lost-tales-q-a-with-terry-ray
https://mmh7.ubi.com/en/blog/post/view/the-lost-tales-of-axeoth-unity-available-february-2016
http://www.celestialheavens.com/forum/22/15725
>Another thing we've discussed in the comments of the H7 blog is that the current factions will be modded to be closer to their H4 counterparts. So yes, Necropolis will have Demons instead of spiders. I know the thought of "Infernopolis" still generates strong feelings across the boards, but to me that's an integral part of Heroes IV
>>321522531
7 was not shit on by the fan community just because of its bugs. The core game systems are simply inferior recreations of past games and there are other fundamental issues e.g. terrible AI, badly designed skillwheel, no sim turns, crappy and unusable map editor etc. No amount of bug patches will resolve this (indeed, Limbic openly stated they refuse to fix some of the flaws because they can't see the issue).
>>321523502
>The core game systems are simply inferior recreations of past games
"IF IT'S NOT A 1:1 COPY OF H3 THEN IT'S SHIT, FUCK INNOVATION, I JUST WANT 1:1 COPY OF H3, OR YOU KNOW WHAT, EVEN IF YOU MADE THAT I'LL JUST PLAY H3 ANYWAY FUCK YOU"
Go to bed.
>>321523502
>terrible AI
I can agree that it was terrible but they improvd it greatly for the most part, could still be better though.
>badly designed skillwheel
Improvement over H5 which was already fine, I don't see a problem.
>no sim turns
Now you're just blatantly lying proving you never played it.
>unusable map editor
Ditto, one of the easier to use iterations of the map editor.
>>321523581
This response is moronic.
>>321523886
Merely pointing out the mentality of everyone bitching about every single Heroes game after H3.
No innovation can be made when very vocal autists just literally want more of H3.
Go play your fucking HotA made by Ruskie since you're most likely a Ruskie too, thus the target audience.
Main problem with HoMM is the map AI. It knows where you can move during your turn and stays out of range. Consequently you have to learn to trick it or just use town portal or dimension door or fly, which makes the game really boring.
>>321514098
It's literally been completely outsourced to china save for technical part which was made by german undergraduates and plot which was writter by french
>>321523828
None of these things are up for debate, beyond the skillwheel to some small extent, if for some reason you have a bizarre preference for the overabundance of impenetrable character classes and magic schools, Heroes 6 cookie cutter builds and an utterly botched implementation of random skills.
On the other points, drop by Heroes Community right now and post what you've just written. Tell them sim turns are in and that the map editor works fine, I guarantee you'll be laughed out of the fucking room.
>>321517664
I don't understand how people can still actually believe that 4 anywhere near as bad or worse than 6 or 7.
Yes the map AI is literally non existent in 4 but its just as bad in 6 and 7.
Yes the Necro and Inferno are mashed into one faction in 4, but in 6 and 7 half the factions are either butchered or missing altogether.
Yes 4 had barely any maps but neither 6 nor 7 are any better in this aspect.
4 had the best battle AI out of all the Heroes games.
4 had arguably the best soundtrack out of all the heroes games.
4 had amazing campaign map design and the campaigns themselves were soem of the msot enjoyable in the franchise because it avoided the awful AI.
4 would have been a fucking masterpiece if 3DO weren't such cancerous leech jews and let NWC finish the game.
People need to bury their decade and a half old grudge boner and see 4 for what it actually was - a terrible successor to 3 but a far better game than the pieces of shit that are HoMM 6 and 7.
>>321524052
But this is retarded logic. If all people wanted was a Heroes 3 clone, Heroes 7 would have been a success.
V is shit, and it's not anything like III. goddamn shit taste you people got
