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>maining starter characters instead of bison or vega For
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>maining starter characters instead of bison or vega

For what purpose?

Shotos are meant to be introductory to the meta, not mained. Daigo is a poser.
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>>321503370
Daigo mains Evil Ryu though.

Bison's also a great starter character for learning charge motions.
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>being autistic
For what purpose?
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>>321503498
>Daigo mains Evil Ryu though.
And? Did you read the OP properly?
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>>321503531
>being mad
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a win is a win
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She goes by name "SyrianGirl" on youtube and makes political videos.
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>>321503572
I was under the assumption you labeled Ryu and Ken as the shotos that are meant to be introductory.

A large portion of the cast fall under the shoto archetype. Are you actually dismissing the effort of anyone who plays one of these characters instead of what you think is worthy?
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>not maining F.A.N.G.
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>>321503859
>A large portion of the cast fall under the shoto archetype
lmao

projectiles don't make a shoto, fag
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>>321503786
>she
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>playing Street Fighter past 1998
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>Daigo's a poser
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>>321503916
Ryu
Ken
Akuma
Evil Ryu
Oni
Sakura
Sagat
Poison
Rose
Dan

With exceptions, a large part of the cast that isn't a charge character or grappler is a shoto.
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>>321503786
Too bad she's a literal actual fascist and basically insane and Alan Jones is already cock deep in her.
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>>321504339
Out of how many characters
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>>321504391
>Too bad she's a literal actual fascist
>this
>bad
Alright leftycuck
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>>321504105
I want Garou to fuck me in the ass.
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>>321504105

Daigo is a filthy has-been. He should just retire already and take care of his kid.
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>>321504434
40+?

Also add Cody and Gouken to my list.

So that's 12 characters out about 40 total that fall under the shoto archetype. That's 1/4 of the roster.
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>>321504391
Name one bad thing about fascism without resorting to fallacies, ad hominem, or emotionalism.
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>>321503370
>Shotos are for posers
Somebody doesn't know how to deal with projectiles.
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>>321504850
don't bother, he's already confused at the idea of a minority female that sympathizes with GNATZEES. No need to give the upper middle class white boy a heart attack,
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>>321504850
It's named after an ax wrapped in a literal faggot.
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>>321504827
Maybe I failed math, but I don't think 1/4 max is a large portion
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>>321505254
25% is a significant amount you fuck nugget
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Man she's perfect.

Damn shame she's into politics.
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>>321505254
I mean, you cross out 1/4th of the roster because they're "shotos" and not meant for higher play? It may not seem like a large amount but it really is.
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>>321504850
Fascist philosophy is basically trash tier as it is highly contradictory to it's own internal logic. Even though it claims it is done in the sake of acting as a mediator between workers and capital, because it violently enforces power structures and the status quo is actually a highly reactionary movement that suppresses the working class through a totalitarian state controlled entirely by a elitist bureaucratic and business elite.

And that's just standard Fascism, lets not even get started on the absolute batshit psuedo-scientific, a-historical neo-classical Nazism of Germany.
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>>321505035
no wonder they had such great fashion sense
it all makes sense now
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>>321505713
>that suppresses the working class through a totalitarian state controlled entirely by a elitist bureaucratic and business elite.
Sounds like capitalism t b h.
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>>321504339
>Rose
>Poison
>Shotos
u wot m8
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>>321506116
*democracy
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>>321503370
There's always going to be a character with simple execution, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with maining that character. People are allowed to main whoever they want.

>>321503498
Daigo originally mained normal Ryu before Evil Ryu existed in SF4.
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>>321506131
They follow the general trend of being motion characters with a fireball, uppercut, and horizontally traveling attack for controlling space and getting around.
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Death to Assad
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>>321506116
Isn't that what all viable systems are? Shades of Oligarchy?
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>>321504827
>>321506131
>Cody
lolwut

>Gouken
His moves are Shoto moves in name only. Otherwise he is nothing like the other characters.
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>>321506278
unlikely, amerifat
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>>321506116
Fascism is a form of Capitalism, but is a "radical centrism" Fascists see themselves as a mediator between Capital and Workers, they hold themselves above both and make sure the Capitalists don't abuse the workers too much and they stop the workers from uprising because Fascists basically view the working class as retarded.

Watch Fritz Lang's Metropolis, Freder is basically the perfect Fascist, Metropolis was Hitlers favourite movie and he apparently likened himself to Freder.
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>>321506404
He's as good as finished anyway
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>>321503370
>>321504689
He just got 2nd place in Capcom cup, with Kazunoko in first
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Are you mad that people beat you with characters with solid fundamentals? Maybe you should stop being shit at the game.
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>>321506462
In what sense, faggot? Russia already has "green men" operating for him against ISIS.
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>>321506265
Any character could be a shoto if your definition is that loose. Rose doesn't have an uppercut, just a command air grab, and both her and Poison play more like rekka characters than shotos. By that logic Birdie in SF5 is a shoto.
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>>321506304
Actually Gouken is literally the teacher of "shotokan", whom Ken and Ryu learn the martial art from. He is quite literally THE shoto even if he plays differently.
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>>321506671
>rushia stronk

lel
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>>321506671
Russia is willing to drop him for another man. They're willing to drop the whole Syria thing for more control on Eastern Ukraine and an assurance from the West that Ukraine will not join NATO.
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>>321503370
>Maining flippy faggots

Just as bad.
Why aren't you playing Guile/Nash like your fellow countrymen? Do you hate freedom or something?
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>>321506894
>literally the only reason the US is in submission
>not strong
lel?
>>321506896
Ukraine is still Russian clay
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>>321507060
I'm Australian you nigger faggpt
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this kills the russian
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>>321506674
Poison is more like Iori Yagami
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>>321506875
Nah dude don't be moving the goalposts. We were just talking about gameplay, story is completely irrelevant. Otherwise the other characters listed definitely don't count because they aren't trained in shotokan.
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>>321507147
This kills the nordicuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-446WcLejJ8

Goodnight norway, sweden and finland
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>>321507065
иди нaхyй, пидopaшкa
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>>321507060
>Guile/Nash
>characters who actually flip
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>>321503370
Because a shoto like Ryu or Ken are perfect for teaching the fundamentals. I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand?

>Daigo is a poser

lol k.

What about infiltration? Is his Akuma trash too?

Fucking kill yourself cunt.
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>>321503370
Those lips were made for sucking. Holy shit
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>>321506131
Do you know what a shoto character is?
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>>321507574
>What about infiltration? Is his Akuma trash too?
Yes
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>>321507683
I-is that you DarkSydeSalt?
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>>321507683
YEAH THESE SHOTO PLAYERS TOTALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING

https://youtu.be/5vQZY_9qSg4?t=1m26s
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>>321507629
yeah, sucking at video games
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Infiltration vs PR Balrog

https://youtu.be/9lid5_mbbuw?t=1m20s
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>>321507204
But they all fall under the shoto archetype, regardless of how differently they play. Even Ken and Ryu play vastly different from each other. You don't just go "well he doesn't have a tornado kick that goes horizontal, he's not a shoto".

And you have common sense to know where this line stops for the other characters too.

Juri has fireballs and she has a kick that goes horizontal, why isn't she a shoto? Because the act of storing fireballs and lack of a shoryuken (or any uppercut/dp input type move) differentiates her from that type.

How come Rose is considered a shoto if she lacks a shoryuken? While she does lack the uppercut itself the input is still there in the form of an anti air grab.
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>>321503370
Shhh don't bad mouth the easy mode characters, fightan games get mad when you do that. You're supposed to fight the same character 50% of the time.
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>>321507574
>perfect for teaching fundamentals
Also perfect for stunting the maturation of players when they get too comfortable. Give the average shoto player a non-shoto character (especially gief) and they freeze up, get scared, and run back to base.

We also can't pretend this isn't a 'bad habit' package, given strong zone game, 3 frame true reversals, and easy cross-ups. Shoto's have most of the game's tools available, giving them easy access to control in any matchup. It's no wonder most people never want to move on.

Imo the healthiest approach is to start with characters that have an explicit weakness, then toy with the opposite when the weakness seems 'unfair' or frustrating.
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I dont main shit
I just played people and said "Chuns buttons feel nice" so I stick with her
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