This is the highest quality content From Software has ever produced.
k
>>321382197
that means nothing to me
>>321382197
maybe
>>321382197
>first area rehashes tons of enemies
>the new enemies aren't that interesting
>two shit bosses, one of them is a reskin
>new weapons that should've been in the base game
Nope.
>Tfw built i7 290x last summer
>Tfw dad got me ps4 for xmas
>Tfw got hot redhead gf of 1yr now
>mfw I got everything iv ever wanted
>>321382323
>>321382397
butthurt pcucks detected
>>321382197
Does the engine count as content? Because it takes forever to load and drops frames constantly.
>>321382696
>two shit bosses, one of them is a reskin
More like one is a lazy reskin (Lawrence) and the other is an even lazier reskin (Living Failures is basically Four Kings 2.0 in terms of mechanics).
>>321382696
>basic mobs thrown in to get slaughtered by new npcs
>REHASH
ludwig and orphan are two of the best bosses in the series
maria is high tier
laurence is okay
living failures is as bad as four kings
moreover, old hunters follows the exact same formula as AotA, but it's about double the length
>>321382696
>one of them is a reskin
my only complaint. Laurence should have had a unique beast design given how weird his skull looked.
>>321382197
Thats not a very big leap.
>>321383030
his second form isn't even unique
you are now realizing the walking animation was completely recycled
>>321383000
>laurence is okay
Laurence is complete and utter shit. Almost as lazy as the rehashes of Dark Souls 2.
>maria is high tier
Maria is basically "counter roll to win" if you want to cheesy and "visceral to win" if you want to be less cheesy. There are only two good things about Maria:
1. The music by Yuka Kitamura
2. The fact that she'll definitely inspire a lot of hentai of her getting raped and impregnated by beasts
>On PSN the Complete is 50
>Can get the game and DLC separately for 20 each
Whyyyyy
>>321383150
I disagree about Laurence. He's lazy but he's not poorly designed by any stretch. And as easy as it is to cheese maria, she is sheer fun: the fight.
Living failures is a fucking joke though.
>>321383000
>double the length
Nigger I just beat it in less than 2 hours. Got all the weapons, and killed all the bosses.
>>321382197
That's not Demon's Souls
>>321383030
>He's a cleric
>Therefore his form is the same as the cleric beast
Makes sense and all, but you can't really call the fight a rehash when he drops his spahgetti midway.
>>321382696
>>321383030
>>321383129
Yeah why did literally the most important character in the lore get such a lazy phone-in for a boss?
>>321383306
Yeah, and you can clear AtoA in an hour, fight all of the bosses, get all of the spells, armor and weapons.
>>321382197
This is true, but that's not a very high standard. Japan Studio is almost entirely responsible for Bloodborne's relative polish, the fact they couldn't make it flawless just confirms that From are fucking hacks who produce terrible code.
regretting that $400 purchase, huh?
Ahh, you were by my side all along
>>321383462
$320
>>321383030
>Laurence should have had a unique beast design given how weird his skull looked.
The funny thing is, some people actually defend his rehashed gameplay citing the lore, even though the lore said absolutely nothing specific about how Cleric Beasts looked and behaved.
There is no line in the lore that says that people who turn into Cleric Beasts must look like pic related. If From wasn't lazy shits, they would have designed Laurence to look completely different aside from the skull. Maybe give him wings. Maybe design him like a snake. Maybe a crab-like beast. I dunno. Something more creative than Firesage Cleric Beast.
>>321383653
I think they got rushed or something. He's the lowest quality part of the DLC.
>>321383763
Yet he has probably the best theme in the game. He's the low point of an otherwise top tier expansion.
>>321383491
Ludwig is a 9/10 fight.
It used to be a 10/10 fight for me, but I took a point off after doing a BL4 run and learning that you could dodge ALL of his sword swipes by rolling to my left (or his right).
That's just lazy of them to do that.
They could have given him attacks that protected his right side, like maybe have him punch you with his empty hand whenever you stuck to his right side.
Or maybe have him use those horse legs of his to zone you out.
>>321382197
>B-team makes cross-platform DaS2 and DLCs
>Sony ponies constantly bitch about it
>B-team makes soney exclusive DLC
>Sony ponies lavish them with praise.
>>321383428
no you cant
>>321384076
>DLC
You mean like Artorias of the Abyss?
>>321384076
>B-team makes soney exclusive DLC
lol
It was the same team as the vanilla game + SCE staff.
DSIII was and still is developed by a separate team which is a mish-mash of both A and B
Demon Souls will never be beat.
>>321384227
Okay, so why have so many people been saying the past few weeks that the BB DLC was made by B-Team?
>>321382197
I really loved the DLC, although I have to admit, I was expecting a bit more out of it. 100%'d it in like 5 to 7 hours, although was expecting at least 15 (probably because I went with my NG character).
Still, was 9/10 experience and on par if not better than Artorias DLC.
Encouraged me to make a kin build now
>>321384302
Prove it
>>321384302
because 1 or 2 enemies have good tracking
that's pretty much the only reason
>>321382197
The highest quality of shitty combat and generic boring level design?
demons souls still a best.
>>321384407
if you have bad taste, sure
>>321384302
Salt or shitposting?
>>321384407 like that
>>321384302
Non-ps4 owners shitposting.
Funnily enough the DS2 dlc was made by the b-team and it was fantastic.
>There are people that don't understand that DS2 had a rushed development cycle and an engine overhaul to degrade it for consoles midway through development
>There are people that don't understand that DS3 is pretty much 80% B-team and Miyazaki for the other 20%
>>321384267
>will never be beat
...In terms of shittiness? If so, yes.
The game only has two good bosses (False King Allant and Flamelurker) and one challenging area (Shrine of Storms).The game uses as much rehashed weapon movesets as Dark Souls 2. The music is shit too.
>>321384458
>There are people that don't understand that DS2 had a rushed development cycle and an engine overhaul to degrade it for consoles midway through development
I understand that, but it doesn't make the game automatically fantastic. Just sad, really. It's like DMC2, when Itsuno entered the project in its last stage of development and tried to salvage at least something out of it; same with Tanimura
>>321384458
>it was fantastic
it was mediocre
all of it
>>321384552
Didn't say it was fantastic, but it had a lot of shit cut and slapped together. Like the infamous Iron keep progression elevator.
>>321384485
>rehashed
>first game
fuck off shitter
>>321384612
Fuck off, it has a rehash boss per dlc but the rest of it is great. Some of the best fights in the series are in those dlcs. Allone, Fume, Aava, OIK and Sinh were are great.
>>321384618
ALL the pole axes have the same movesets.
ALL the greatswords have the same movesets except for the useless Storm Ruler.
ALL straight swords have the same movesets.
ALL the heavy class weapons like the Ultra Greatswords and the Great Axes have the same movesets.
Yes, REHASHED, faggot.
>>321384773
How are you this stupid.
>>321384618
I think he's talking about the fact that movesets aren't unique at all. Pretty much any weapon has the exact same moveset as any other weapon in the same weapon class.
meat cleaver, great club, bramd, great axe, crescent axe and dozer all have the same exact moveset
I mean, the moveset itself is great, but it's shared between all of those weapons.
>>321384771
I hated all of it. It as all shit. No fight is enjoyable when the base mechanics of the game are garbage.
>>321384861
>Mechanics are directly improved in nearly every way from DS1
Haha okay buddy, when will this meme end?
8/10 game. pretty good but no need to cream yourselves over it just because it's one of the very few games ps4 has.
>>321384773
Yes, CAPS, faggot.
>>321384981
>attaching iframes to a stat is an improvement
I refuse to take you seriously at all.
>>321384989
>I don't own a PS4
>Here's my rating for this PS4 exclusive
>>321384842
>gets proven wrong
>calls me stupid
"That'll s-sh-show him!"
>>321384842
>>321385015
I'm not him, but you haven't refuted his point at all. All you did was post a smug anime girl instead of a counter argument.
>>321385062
>Nearly
And the game throws so many fucking levels at you leveling ADP isnt even an issue.
>>321384773
here let me explain dark souls movesets to you in
you have the best weapon in a class of weapons, and every single other weapon is just the same thing but with a shitty special attack that takes years too come out and doesnt even do much damage.
that wasn't an issue in dark souls 2, and it wasn't an issue in demon souls. in fact, nearly every weapon is viable in dark souls 2, while 80% of the weapons in dark souls were just straight up trash, there were even weapon classes that were 100% useless like hammers and fists.
>>321384861
>I hated all of it. It as all shit. No fight is enjoyable when the base mechanics of the game are garbage.
ah, so you enjoyed backstab souls then? did you like the enemy with no tracking where you circle strafe and hit in the back, or the enemy where you circle strafe and hit in the back?
maybe you enjoy quality boss fights like sif, 4kings, bed of chaos? hmm?
oh, maybe you liked how it was nearly impossible to get hit thanks too how many iframes you have. maybe the terrible camera? ohhhhh, how about the enemies where you circle strafe, wait for them to attack, then hit them in the back
quality mechanics from a flawless game,.
>>321384773
ur retarded, nothing else to say
>>321385157
>y-you want to have iframes on your roll?
>j-just level up, stupid!
Something as glaringly horrible as adaptability can't be overlooked, just like soul memory. The pacing of the game is the slowest in the series too. And lets not forget enemies like the old knights with infinite poise and drawn out 10 second combos that can't be interrupted where all you do is sit back and watch them swing. What poor fucking design.
This is an "improvement"? Fuck off. It's worse in every way imaginable. Almost every new mechanic in that fucking game is highly questionable at best.
The big brain enemies are so fucking boring. It's such a bore going through that area.
>>321385097
Demon's Souls was the first game in the series and had fuck all for budget and time constraints. Of course stuff isn't going to be as fleshed out and key framing weapon movesets takes a lot of time with a dev team as small as that of DeS. What are you ignoring that the game at the same time introduced many new and unique things and was overall pretty polished.
wait what is going on in here, i frames are bad now?
>>321385447
how is having less i frames an issue what the fuck? are you seriously complaining that you actually have to try and time your rolls too dodge attacks? what the hell is wrong with you
>>321385348
>sif is a bad fight
>iframes are bad
>enemies with heavy tracking that spin like they're on a vehicle display wheel are a good thing
>backstabs are bad meme
>"l-let me just cherry pick the worst, most unfinshed fight in the game! that will show em'"
>>321385606
>your ability to roll should be tied to a stat
what the hell is wrong with you?
>>321385561
dont waste ur breathe on that obvious shitter
>>321385561
I'm not him and I really like Demon's Souls but the weapon movesets are completely reused.
The game doesn't even have unique weapons, it really just has weapon classes.
Nothing he's said is really wrong or incorrect.
>>321384180
yea u can
>>321385667
sif is a bad fight. you run under his legs and he cant hit you, he is a joke of a fight and his design is retarded
yes, enemies that actually cover their backs is a good thing. this is a video game, the gameplay should be fun, not some braindead ai swinging at nothing and having no tracking. that take all challenge out of a game and effectivly makes every fight the same thing unless you track some awful gimmick onto it, like bed of chaos or ceaseless "i have the worst hitboxes in any video game ever made" discharge
i didnt say anything about backstab you idiot
your ability to roll isnt tied to a stat you dumbass, and if you want to get technical, your roll was tied to a stat in dark souls as well, its called equip burden. now quit crying like a bitch, you little shit.
>>321386147
leveling up to magically gain iframes is substantially different than hitting a weight breakpoint to alter your roll speed and iframes completely
one is a good idea that works and the other is fucking terrible
>>321385447
not even old knights
the fucking phantoms have incredibly cheap mechanics tied to them
rolling out of stuns, cancelling animations etc
>>321386262
you level up to get a stat that improves your roll
its the same exact thing.
>>321386378
it's not at all and I'm not going to continue to argue with something this fucking stupid
>>321386262
>citing a stat in DS1 that was horrifically overpowered
>Weight, stamina and i-frames
They addressed how bullshit it was in DS1, stop crying that it was adjusted so you didn't need to just level 2 stats.
>>321386418
>I'm losing so I'll call him stupid!!!!
New Folklore when?
I honestly believe that game can match Digimon, Monster Rancher and SMT in terms of the wole monster collecting genre. Now add Souls' story telling and whala.
all this salt
Its amazing
>>321386418
you level up to get a stat that improves your iframes. its the same exact thing
>>321382197
Yup.
Pcucks can't handle it. Their anoos is torn
>>321382197
FromSoftware has created two good games.
Metal Wolf Chaos, and 3D Dot Game Heroes.
Everything else is irrelevant.
>>321382197
Did it fix the horrible clunky control or casual pandering combat?
i like all the souls games
i replay demons and dark souls 2 the most though
the gold is too shiny you need some sun galsses on
>>321382764
>>Tfw built i7 290x last summer
Nice thought you were gonna get cucked for a second there bro
>>321384076
You know damn well that if bloodborne was a multiplat, it would get nothing but praise around here.
>>321382696
>two shit bosses, one of them is a reskin
>the game themes is beast
>surprises theres a lot of beast monster
>>321384076
Miyazaki developed toh breh. Same s-team of Sony Japan and from software that made Demons souls and bloodborne pre-expansion
U cucked brah?
>>321382764
Broooo hot readhead pinup model gf for a little over a year now too fuck yeah
Just got a ps4 from her also, except I got a gtx 960 4gb in the pc
Fuckin chillin life though we'll enjoy it together
I agree. Miyazaki-san rewards those who are loyal, since the Demons Souls days.
>>321386546
It just doesn't stop. So beautiful.
>>321387134
try to put a beautifull looking bloodborne image and everybody just starts to throw free salt
The keking is unstopable
>>321386147
>Enemies that actually cover their back
Certain enemies like ironclads did this properly where they would fall back and slam you if you tried to backstab them.
Turning enemy attacks into magnets for your arsehole is never a good fucking solution, just like the horrific enemy placement which Scholar still didn't fix.
>>321387993
look man, at the end of the day, neither game did tracking well. dark souls has pretty much no tracking to the point where every enemy is effectively defeated the same way, excluding the few that had a gimmick to not allow that, while dark souls 2 had too much. but if you had to choose between no tracking and too much tracking, too much tracking is better, because at least the game doesnt turn enemies into the same encounter
>just like the horrific enemy placement which Scholar still didn't fix
if your complaining about tons of enemies stacked on top of each other, this isnt a dark souls specific complain, every souls game has enemies piled on top of enemies. thats not bad enemy placement.
>>321383150
Lady Maria's theme isn't even any good maybe except the first 5 seconds or so.
its not even pcucks who are salty ITT . its dark fags hating on demons. your new games are watered down normie shit. debate me . im here all night
I still prefer Dark Souls 1.
>Playstation cucks who pay for online pretending to feel superior
>>321385348
>there were even weapon classes that were 100% useless like hammers
But I'm using a Morning Star right now and it's perfectly fine?
>>321389031
>pcucks entering BB threads still trying to convince us theyre not assravaged
>>321389202
It's Xboners false flagging because they have nogames.
>Halo
>Queers of War
No good ones, anyway.
I guess it was pretty amazing in comparison to the embarrassment that was DaSII
>>321389357
They could have made pretty much anything and it would've looked great next to the abortion that is DaSII. It'll definitely go down in history as the DMC2 of the franchise.
>>321382197
'no'
Let's be serious here, DeS and DaS are the better games.
>>321389539
They're not.
>>321389717
Great arguments.
I bet you never played a King's Field game in your life.
>>321389878
That's irrelevant.
>>321389997
Not really, no. Souls games are basically King's Field in 3rd person.
I'd like to hear your arguments on why Bloodborne is the best thing From Soft ever did though.
>>321390189
So your entire argument for DaS and DeS being better than Bloodborne is that it has the same type of setting as Froms older games?
>>321390263
No, he's saying that you aren't familiar with a very similar series of games, so you can't which are the best from games.
>>321390263
No. Where did I say that?
I wasn't the one that made the claim that Bloodborne is the best thing they ever did though.
>>321390361
I highly doubt anyone would consider Kings Field to be of higher quality and any of the Souls games.
>>321390361
>>321390382
Good thing these posts (>>321389539 >>321389717) don't say anything about any Soulsborne game being the best From game.
>>321382197
>content
Mustard here
Is there any kind of *unzips katana* in this game?
I am borrowing a PS4, and am considering making an 100% RULES OF NATURE edge build
>>321390604
>Is there any kind of *unzips katana* in this game?
Big time. Old Hunter's Bone + Chikage is literally *teleports behind you* tier.
What were they thinking when they made this weapon? Even better, what were they thinking when they patched the game but did not nerf it in any way?
>beating Ludwig, Ebrietas, Amelia in seconds with the L2
>>321390604
Not only can you unzip your katana, you can slice your wrists with it and cover the blade in your own blood to power it up.
And theres an item that lets you *teleports behind you*.
I'm not joking.
>>321390604
Chikage/Rakuyo, Evelyn in the offhand. You'll need the Cainhurst helm and the Bone Ash Set. Congratulations, you're now a bloodborne.
>>321390765
And you can do the Shake Off Cape emote for maximum "pssh, nothing personnel... kid".
>>321390464
>thread stating Bloodborne is the highest quality From game
>hurr durr no one said that
Stop pretending to be retarded. I was replying to the OP.
>>321390690
I fucking love whirligig. Sometimes cheesing shit bosses is the most fun you can have. Good luck using this against Orphan of Kosm.
I still like Demons better, but I am really enjoying this game. After DaS 2 I was a little burnt out on these, but i'm on my way to getting the BB plat and loving it. Already beat the defiled chalice and everything. Good job From
>>321390870
Are you really going to bait on Christmas? Is your life that sad?
>>321382197
So it's a 6/10?
>>321391035
Old Hunters is easily 7.5 material.
This A and B team stuff is really confusing , wasnt Miyazaki leading the team on this
>>321391013
How am I baiting? Like I said, stop pretending to be retarded, most people stop doing that when they're over the age of 12.
Best fight FROM has ever created tier
>Orphan of Kos
Great and memorable tier
>Ludwid. The holy blade
Meh tier
>Lady Maria of the Astral Clocktower
Disappointing as fuck tier
>Laurence, the first Vicar
Litteral meme tier
>Living Failures
>>321391167
>It's Yuro peak time
Sorry, I forgot Muslims get bored on Christmas.
>>321391205
imo
Maria > Orphan > Ludwig >>>> Laurence
i don't even count Living Failures
>>321391290
>Maria best
She's 2nd phase Micolash tier at best.
>slash until almost out of stamina, stunlocking the shit out of her
>dodge with last bit
>dodge a few more times while waiting for stamina to regain
>rinse and repeat
The fight is trivialized if you stick right to her.
>>321391119
If I remember my random vidya news correctly, The Old Hunters was primarily done by the B-team (Dark Souls 2) with only some influence from the A-team/Miyazaki, who were primarily working on Dark Souls 3.
Which, if that's the case and I'm not remembering completely wrong, does show that the DaS2 team has been improving. The DaS2 DLC was already better than the base game, and The Old Hunters is extremely good overall.
>>321389878
>King's Field
While your cheap trick might work on someone who never played in them, but as a person who played in most KF and STA i can say that they are nowhere near the level of DeS or Bloodborne nor in terms of quality of setting nor in terms of gameplay aside from variety of magic maybe.
>>321391382
well, Maria was pretty tough for me, but the fight was fun as hell. better than Ludwigs boring 2nd phase where i literally just stood there and wailed on him until he died.
>>321391119
It's just retarded memes.
Tanimura is a great director who made STA back in days. The one and only one responsible for DS2 being an utter failure is Shibuya and Bamco rushing From towards release. Tanimura has shown his competence as level designer in DS2 DLCs.
>>321383000
Orphan was bad.
>>321382197
DaS baby
>>321391394
That's my point. DaS and DeS were a natural evolution from King's Field. Bloodborne while good, is a step back in some ways and a rehash in others.
>>321391564
Your opinion is bad.
>>321389539
I love DeS and DaS as much as the next guy, but that's just wrong.
Both of those games were rushed and unfinished in parts.
>>321391612
>best combat in the series
>step back
Ayy to the fucking LMAO
>>321391564
>Orphan was bad.
You probably don't know who's your father cuck.
>>321391205
>Ludwig
Awesome, incredibly well-designed boss across the board. Second phase is a little bit less inspired (and easier) than the first, though it's still a great "oh shit" moment.
>Living Failures
Pretty shit, probably the worst non-Chalice boss in Bloodborne after Celestial Emissary.
>Maria
Incredibly fucking cool moveset and a ton of fun to fight straight-up, but suffers from being quite squishy and far too easy to stunlock and parry. I think if they bumped her HP up, tightened up her parry timing slightly, and made her escape stunlocks easily like the Bloody Crow or Gehrman, she would be a top-tier boss.
>Orphan of Kos
Fucking incredible, intimidating, fun to fight, unpredictable, and challenging without feeling unfair. Definitely one of the best boss fights in the series.
>Laurence
I don't buy into the whole "muh Cleric Beast reskin" thing because in practice the fight plays very differently, but he does feel quite generic overall. His second phase is more unique but also has an incredibly limited move pool. I think he's a pretty decent boss overall and generally wouldn't bat an eye at him, but as the super sekrit optional boss of the DLC I would've expected something more.
>>321391382
Aesthetically, the fight is extremely pleasing. I find myself dancing around her in phase 3 because I just want to keep admiring her animations, the visual effects, the sound of the fire and the slashes, her grunts, the song.
>>321391119
Yes he was. Its also the best piece of content they've released since Demons Souls. Easily 10/10.
While you might get one piece of armor and one weapon at an area in other Souls games, Old Hunters DLC tosses 4 weapons and 2 armor sets at you immediately. There are also two bosses in the first area.
These weapons, armor and bosses all have a degree of exploration required if you want them, and are thus rewarding too, and the areas in the DLC diverge and open up to challenge zones and NPC hunters.
>The music
The best part of the DLC and I'd say the best in the whole series.
>Some boss fights are 2 boss fights in one/ have two parts
Continuing on why the music is the best in the series, as fights go on the bosses transform, and the music changes with the battle phase. Like Father Gascoigne on the base game, but on crack because there's even mid-battle cutscenes.
>The Lumenflower Garden on top of the Research Hall
The most beautiful area in Souls games ever. You can get a glimpse of where you'll end up next if you look at the shore and the orange light in the distance.
>Areas are interconnected.
Those with keen eyes can spot areas from the next areas. You can see Hemwick Charnal Lane from Cainhurst. You can see Nightmare Yharnam from the Fishing Hamlet, etc.
My point is that they really did put a lot of care and love to this game.
>Most recent patch allows you to purchase Blood Rocks (equivalent of Slabs) in the game
This easily puts it at the top of all Souls games for me.
>>321391612
>rehash
We're talking about Fromsoft, moron. They were rehashing and reusing stuff since the first KF and if you ever actually played in them you would know it, but this doesn't seem to be the case.
>>321391726
>best combat
If you're one of those CURAZYYY fags, maybe. It has better controls though, I'll give you that.
>>321391649
DaS definitely has better level design even if it's rushed in some parts. It just feels the world was always there and not specifically designed for enemy encounters. It also has more build and equipment variety, which is an essential thing in any RPG worth of praise.
>>321391612
>>321392051
I get the feeling you've never actually played Bloodborne.
>>321389286
>Bloodborne
>...
More than PS4 anyway.
>>321392096
Are you just now figuring that out?
>>321391940
Bloodborne had phenomenal art direction , it fell on the way side cause everyone kept complaining about exclusivity and framerate
>>321391617
>>321391731
What do you retards see in him?
His design is incredibly boring, his hitboxes are wonky throughout the fight, the first phase is just parry fishing (which is annoying as fuck since the way he bends his body during the fight, you wind up missing half the time), his projectiles will explode on the terrain and still hit you even if you dodged them, half his attacks pancake you, and the second phase is him flying off the screen with no indication of where he is and then landing on you or bombing you with projectiles.
>>321391962
Did I say otherwise? Are you going to say they were all rehashed in the same way? Because that's not the case at all.
>>321392096
>>321392169
Nice argument friends. You should probably not post all if you don't have anything of worth to say.
>>321392182
So you dislike him because you're shit at the game? Just say that instead of pretending that your opinion is fact when everyone else disagrees with you.
>>321392213
You haven't supplied a single argument this entire time, retard.
>>321392270
lol >>321392051
Like anyone has supplied any why Bloodborne is the best FromSoft game. You Bloodborne fags are worse the Nintendo fags.
>>321392051
What cuhrayzee has to do ANYTHING with bloodborne you inbred retard?
Did you ever played in the goddamn game? Looks like not.
>>321392269
I died to him less than I did to Ludwig.
He just isn't fun at all. Fighting Ludwig was always rewarding. Fighting Orphan was just tedious and exacerbating.
>>321392357
He hasn't played it. His entire opinion on BB is from watching videos.
>>321391926
While I don't disagree with your point of view, it doesn't change how underwhelming the fight itself is. It's just like facing one of the hunter NPCs with a lot more health. Heck, I died more to Beast Cutter hunters than Maria.
Though really it's all subjective, I won't say you're wrong and I'm right, just that I feel differently.
>>321392352
Oh, your argument was just shit you parroted from other DaSfags on /v/,
>>321382197
I WHOLE HARDELY FUCKING AGREE,OP!
DLC was so damn good i dont even give a flying fuck about hit souls 3 anymore even if miyazaki is directing.
I honestly dont think anything in dark souls 3 can top bloodborne 100% gomplete goty addition.
Everytime i see a bloodborne threa it gives me the strogest urge to turn my ps4 on and start hunting some fucking beast.
My fav dlc track is laurence.
I love how its different and a remix of the cleric beast battle in yarnham.
BLOODBORNE is so damn good that i dont even want another one cause the game is so perfect i dont want its perfection ruined by some half-assed rushed sequel or some shitty cash grab using bloodbornes name.
BLOODBONRE AND SPLATOON ARE MY 2015 GOTYS AND JAPAN IS FINALLY TAKING BACK GAMING TO WHERE IT BELONGS
>>321392357
The combat is clearly faster paced than the other games. Looks like you are the retard that can't take criticism about his favorite game.
>>321392421
Sure thing. Everyone that criticizes Bloodborne hasn't played it.
>>321384614
He meant the DaS 2 DLC not the main game.
/v/ getting overly mad about video games again.
Here I thought I was getting in a nice BB thread.
Then agai the OP's post is what it is, so I should've known better
>>321392517
>Sure thing. Everyone that criticizes Bloodborne hasn't played it.
No, just you.
>>321392491
>no arguments
>ahah he parroted everything!!! he's wrong!!1
How about you stop posting?
>>321392517
>combat is marginally faster than previous games
>HURR ITS CUHRAZY AND ONLY CUHRAZYFAGS LIKE IT
you're a retard mate
>>321392387
Yes, running straight at Ludwig's second form and mashing R1 until he's staggered, getting a visceral, and finishing him in a few more hits is very rewarding.
>>321392182
>His design is incredibly boring
I can give you that one, although personally I think part of his appeal is that he's a fairly unassuming alien zombie thing that manages to be extremely intimidating anyway.
>His hitboxes are wonky throughout the fight
Except they're not, at all. His weapon is all over the place but that's the point, and its hitbox is quite precise. The only minor hitbox issue he has is that his little pink AoEs have slightly larger hitboxes than their actual visual cue would imply.
>The first phase is just parry fishing (which is annoying as fuck since the way he bends his body during the fight, you wind up missing half the time)
If you choose to fight in a boring, annoying way it makes the fight boring and annoying. Shocker.
>His projectiles will explode on the terrain and still hit you even if you dodged them
Because you're dodging them wrong. The whole point of them is that if you just try to sidestep them like a normal projectile they'll still hit you. Dodge diagonally towards him when he throws them.
>Half his attacks pancake you
Stop getting hit by those attacks?
>And the second phase is him flying off the screen with no indication of where he is and then landing on you or bombing you with projectiles
He flies in a predictable arc just like every other boss with a jump attack, try actually learning his patterns. The only annoying thing is that sometimes he does the "jump and spray projectiles" move so often that it's hard to get a hit in.
>>321392182
>His design is incredibly boring
>not loving those Junji Ito references
Maximus Pleb
>his hitboxes are wonky throughout the fight, the first phase is just parry fishing (which is annoying as fuck since the way he bends his body during the fight, you wind up missing half the time), his projectiles will explode on the terrain and still hit you even if you dodged them, half his attacks pancake you, and the second phase is him flying off the screen with no indication of where he is and then landing on you or bombing you with projectiles.
I really dislike using reddit memes, but seriously, git gud.
>>321383653
I agree with this and at the same time disagree.
Some other anon called Vicar amelia a wolf in another blood thread yesterday and i honeslty think of her as a female version of a cleric beast.
She has horns similar to the cleric beast on smaller kind of like a female and male deer.
>>321392604
He'll keep posting retarded shit as long as you keep taking the bait.
>>321392593
How about you form your own opinions instead of parroting /v/.
Oh, and you should also play Bloodborne before critiquing it.
>>321390690
>tfw getting face smashed in by fast opponents that won't stay still long enough to abuse L2
>>321383763
Just cause something doesn't reach your impossible standards doesn't make it rushed or a bad idea you,entitled millenial, wannabe, faggot!
If laurence was such a shitty reskinned boss then so many damn people wouldnt have been in these threads crying about how difficult he was back when the DLC first dropped.
I coop with so many fags just to watch them die from the shit over and over, so apparently he came out just fine.
>>321392569
Epic.
>>321392604
Who are you quoting? I didn't say that at all.
>>321392673
>these arguments are used by many people so they are wrong lol!
This is you, the retard.
Just keep circlejerking about your perfect game, because you clearly can't take any criticism.
>>321392665
I'd never thought of it like this before.
>>321392665
Thats how I think of it as well. As for Laurence I wouldnt even mind if hes design was similar to the Cleric Beast due to a shared heritage but make him a bit bigger and more deformed indicating that he is the grandaddy of this type of beast.
I'm going to marry Doll-chan!
>>321392624
>git gud
I beat him, retard. That didn't make him any more fun to fight.
>>321392620
>If you choose to fight in a boring, annoying way it makes the fight boring and annoying. Shocker.
Yes, because trying to dodge his ridiculous sweeping attacks and stunlock combos on NG+ would be much less annoying.
>Dodge diagonally towards him when he throws them.
You'll still get hit if you're not downhill from him.
>Stop getting hit by those attacks?
There's not really any excuse for him having multiple stunlock combos that can kill you at full health.
>He flies in a predictable arc just like every other boss with a jump attack, try actually learning his patterns.
It's predictable in that he's going to land on your head. It's not a jump attack. He flies totally off the screen and has no indicator like Ludwig's blood drip. It's stupid.
>>321392614
Sounds like you fought him NG while overleveled and using some babby-weapon.
>>321393118
Lady Maria is mine !
>>321392867
>difficulty is the only way to measure whether or not a boss is good
Then I guess Blue Smelter Demon is a masterpiece of a boss, since most of the people I cooped with could barely defeat him.
>>321393369
I fought him in NG at level 40-something with +6 BoM. Hardly overleveled compared to some of the shitters I've seen running through the DLC. Admittedly I had some decent gems, but nothing nearing top level best-in-socket gems.
>>321382197
>Bloodborne is GOTYAY
>it's okay but not that good
>y-you just haven't played it!
When will this meme end?
>>321393369
Not him, but his second phase is incredibly easy.
Much easier than his first phase.
You can literally roll to your left to avoid ALL of his sword swipes. I learned this when I recently did a BL4 run against him.
And he has two AoEs. One where he plunges his sword into the ground and the other where he does a Fate/Stay Night Excalibur attack. Both are easily avoidable and telegraphed years in advance.
>>321382197
>I'm a huge faggot who thinks From only makes Souls games
And this is why nobody likes Sonyggers.
>>321393870
It's not like they've done anything good with their other IPs lately.
>>321393013
>>321393101
Yeah im pretty sure thats why her design is so similar. when you compare the cleric beast and amelia.
I guess nto many people notice, but VICAR AMELIAS theme song is the CLERIC BEAST theme song.
Vicar amelia ha sno track titled after her name on the ost,but the ost has 2 (now3) versions of the cleric beast theme song.
Vicar Amelia is a CLERIC BEAST!
I totally just blew some of you guys minds
Im surprised not many people pick up on that.
GOD DAMMIT THIS THREAD MAKES ME WISH I WAS AT HOME PLAYING SOME BLOODBORNE!
I almost want to go back home eaarly just to play,but this is family time and im not going to ditch spending time with my family over a game,but its very tempting.
This dlc was so good it made me go back and platinum Bloodborne last week.
The game felt so underwhelming when it first came out and i didnt even care to do chalice dungeons, but dlc breathed life it to a withering corpse.
I really dont think dark souls 3 can top this game unless they pull the same dlc stunt as bloodborne,but they need to give fans a full game from the start and stop holding back shit cause of sonys bullshit .
That bullshit practically killed Bloodborne till the dlc dropped.
Im honestly curious as to weather or not this was Sonys idea or Froms idea to sell us the complete game for 20$ bucks.
The dlc fits too perfectly into the story to not have been cut content and not to mention the beast mode from spoke of during bloodborne development before it was released.
Im was pissed when i thought about it this way,but dlc was so damn good i ignored it and dont regret spending the cash at all,but that bullshit if they cut a chink of the game just to sell to us.
>>321393870
Nothing else they've ever made has reached the level of quality as the Souls games. I don't care how nostalgic you are.
>>321394081
>I totally just blew some of you guys minds
Nah, this has been a pretty well known fact about the two bosses since around release in /bbg/.
>>321394209
I know i said most people dont realise it.
>>321393870
Keep falseflagging and next time dont post annalise of all people
>>321382197
it is.
>>321394481
>comparing my queen to that goblin
I'm going to invade your anus.
>>321383000
4 Kings are good though
>>321385348
>dissing Sif and 4 Kings
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>>321384076
It is hands down the best content from has made to date. Not even debatable.
>>321395803
Compared to Bed of Chaos, maybe.
>>321393369
Is it so hard to believe that someone had such an easy time of it.
>>321396039
People who can't figure out boss movesets in Soulsborne games often assume that nobody is capable of figuring out how to beat bosses effectively. It's a coping mechanism.
>>321395646
NO THANKS FAGGOT!
I dont care about her name nor do i care about her opinion on things she knows nothing about.
>>321396313
Hate Anita all you want, she's a right cunt, but Annalise did nothing wrong.
>>321383150
>she'll definitely inspire a lot of hentai of her getting raped and impregnated by beasts
If fucking only. Bloodborne porn is so sparse and most of it is shit.
>>321382764
You re still sad dont you ?
>>321382197
memes aside
it is painful to play when you go from silky smooth 60fps souls on PC to 30fps bloodborne on ps4. got it for christmas and everything, its fine. but my eyes really begin to hurt after a an hour so i havent progressed far. just wish it was 60 so that i could really enjoy it more than once a day
>>321398101
Nah feels nice. Like tomorrow could be even better just because it's a new day :)
>>321398208
>memes aside
>posts 60fps meme
Lerl
>>321390464
that's a pretty smart and orderly way of including backlings in your post
stealing that idea
>>321382197
true op
>>321398208
Nice blog post friend
Quick, what is the easy mode in DS2 weapon and stat wise?
>>321399252
sorceror
>>321399449
Didn't they nerf sorceries and miracles useless?
>>321398453
Youre not me
>>321398453
>>321382764
DUDE GTFO AND FUCK OFF!
No one cares about your shitty ass life.
This is a bloodborne thread
Nothing worse than a neckbeard coming on /v/ to bra to other neckbeards like hes better when hes still just a neckbeard.
Girlfriend or not
It was no Artorias but I enjoyed it.
The new weapons are fantastic, especially Simons Bowblade.
The enemy placement in the first area is awful, DS2 levels of shit.
Every boss fight was good besides from the Failures but they're more of an appetizer for Maria anyway. Adding the Beast and Kin modes is great, I have a feeling they were supposed to be in the main game but were delayed. The game honestly felt lacking without them.
Ludwig and Maria made this more than worth buying, but I think I still prefer Artorias and Manus.
>>321402515
>not loving the mad hunters running around screaming while fucking up the obviously abused beastmen
I've just beaten all 5 bosses on the DLC. Is there suppose to be some story closure of this content? What am I suppose to do?
>>321402787
I liked the atmosphere of the area but as soon as you go through the cave and that "gotcha" bullet trap thing goes off everything goes to shit in my opinion.
Like, just hordes of enemies close together, most of them have projectiles, those ticks being a big clusterfuck down in the blood river. It just didn't feel as good as most of the other areas in that regards to me.
Battling the hunters is fun though, and I like that the beastmen are afraid of you, although its awkward that they run right up to you and then back off.
>>321403019
So your only real complaint is with the blood river? I can see that and the assholes on the bridge as a legitimate complaint, but I had no problem with anything else in the level. Even the giant squidface assholes are easy enough to run past, then backstab to death.
>>321403201
Yeah you know I guess you're right. That and the bullet traps. I felt like the only way to learn about that trap was to die to it once.
The church giant squid guys are kinda BS but they're a fun fight so I have no complaints there. But you're right the whole area is pretty easy to run through if you need to, besides the hunters being able to shoot you.
In fact I just had to do that and cheese Simon to get his bowblade right after Amelia.
The hardest fight in the old hunters isThe two sea giants in the well without a shaman bone blade
>>321389539
Shut up.
>everyone thinks the boom hamer is shit
>mfw two 32.6% blunt attack gems and a heavy abyssal
>>321391564
stop this
>>321403743
It is shit
>>321403563
>parry
>are you skill or quality? visceral
>are you strength, bloodtinge, or arcane? charge r2
Wow, that was hard.
>>321403743
Honestly there isn't a single weapon that isn't fun in BB IMO.
But if you genuinely want to compare them to each other especially in a pvp environment then the boomhammer is not really good.
>>321382197
>tfw we'll never have a game where you play as QT Doll
>>321382197
Now that I've actually had the chance to play Bloodborne, I would say that its a better game than Demon Souls and Dark Souls II.
I don't get the complaint about lack of weapons and armour - most of the weapons and armour in DS were useless anyway. And the Bloodborne weapons are each quite unique.
>>321382197
This is the highest quality content CI Games has ever produced.
>>321402515
>pretending Artorias of the Abyss was good
It was a straight fucking line.
>>321391564
Absolute fucking shit taste. I bet you liked Artorias.
>>321404350
>>321404523
The fuck are you guys talking about. AotA was goat just like the Old Hunters.
>laurance was a rehash waaaaaah!
are you guys being serious? did you not realise what From were doing or have you never actually fought him?
The first half of the fight is to try and lure you into a false sense of security "oh this is gonna be easy he only has some splash damage"
The second half of the fight was a surprise to anyone, were none of you feeling the "wtf" moment when he starts charging at you with lava and fire all over the shop?
I think the "rehash" was a conceptual design choice and not laziness, he's optional and easily miss-able if you don't look up how to fight him anyway.
The DLC was great and much needed for the overall experience imo.
>>321383462
Not one bit.
>>321404012
There's just not a whole lot of good variety early on. In Dark Souls, you had straight swords, polearms, spears, great swords, short swords, bows, and so on right out of the gate. Yes, they got eclipsed later on with better versions or weapon types, but there's just more to it.
In Bloodborne, that variety just doesn't exist, and all the really neat weapons are mostly relegated to the end game. Trick weapons are a great idea and I think the trade off is ultimately worth it, but there's just not as many options early on.
And yeah, I'm fine with armor as it is in Bloodborne. It was always fashion souls anyway, so might as well do away with the need to upgrade them and the like.
>>321382197
>Covenants give no incentive to rank up after getting the Rune
>Boring forgettable NPCs
>Bloodtinge
>Less replayability than either Dark Souls
Bloodborne is a good game but don't ignore its flaws.
>>321407347
These are all valid criticisms and I agree but it's still GOTY
That doesn't look like Tenchu to me.
>tfw pc gamer
