>For me, a familiar example would be…in Smash, Cloud recently became a playable character. And there were people that strongly criticized that, saying “Stop adding non-Nintendo characters!” This is completely ignoring the fact that I’ve added many, many Nintendo characters to Smash. It also ignores the many fans who were overjoyed at Cloud’s addition. Looking at the big picture, I am on the receiving end of countless amounts of truly trivial statements.
>It’s particularly easy to voice criticisms, and opinions are very strong. When people yell loudly, it also invites mob mentality and conformity. It’s easy for negative opinions to be amplified, while positive opinions are quieted. People don’t understand the circumstances and state of affairs behind development, and it’s not allowed for creators to make excuses. There are even people who feel emotionally battered and quit working.
>However, I think that’s okay. Different people value different things differently, and they should stay honest to that. For example, even I, as a fan (?) have my complaints with Star Wars. I honestly dislike Episode VI’s long-winded pacing and how easily the Empire Stormtroopers fall to the Ewoks. I think that the re-releases are redundant and superfluous. But, more than that, I am grateful that they showed me these various worlds, and let me enjoy them. Normally, I just don’t have the opportunity to vocalize my feelings of gratitude.
>I don’t want people who are involved in ‘creating’ things to become disheartened by criticism. Just being able to impart ‘fun’ to a lot of people is a blessing, after all.
http://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/12/24/people-are-free-to-criticize-but-dont-lose-faith/
Is he right?
>>321320540
>This is completely ignoring the fact that I’ve added many, many Nintendo characters to Smash
Which you should be doing because that's the whole point of Smash you dumb fuck.
>>321320657
Are you seriously arguing the point of Smash with the creator of Smash?
>>321320891
This is the same man who thought Smash Tour was a great idea.
So yes, I am.
>>321320540
>I’ve added many, many Nintendo characters to Smash
we didn't mean many, many FE characters samurai..
>>321320540
>This is completely ignoring the fact that I’ve added many, many Nintendo characters to Smash.
*Fire Emblem characters
>>321320540
>>321320540
>>321320540
He thinks Cloud is stronger than Brawl Meta Knight or Melee Fox at full potential, so no.
>>321320540
So basically
>I can and will do whatever pleases me
>You can think whatever you want and be as loud as you want, i will ignore your opinion when it dosent fit mine
its his game
he's allowed to do whatever the fuck he wants with it
>>321320891
Hal created Smash. Iwata had more to do with the series' success than Sakurai. He's the George Lucas of Smash Bros.
Thank you for a lame Smash Bros game Sakurai.
>>321320540
Is Sakurai the Zenpencils of games?
>>321321342
>>321321298
I know you're joking but seriously 6 characters out of a 60 character roster isn't that much.
>>321321936
They aren't, their asses are that flustered. It's great.
>>321321936
>1/10 of a roster drawing from dozens of franchises isn't that much
>>321322040
it's seriously not.
>>321320540
He seems like a cool guy, people always give him shit because of smash but he seems like a generally cool guy.
>>321320891
>>321321064
>>321321623
Go fuck yourselves morons.
>>321321936
>>321322128
Wait wtf you guys play a game with 60?
Around here the smash Bros we play has 2 fire emblem guys out of 26, and only one worth playing. The tournament scene is gigantic.
>>321320540
>people criticized Cloud
Literally what? That must have been one of the best recieved inclusions of all time. I personally saw zero legitimate complaints about Cloud.
He should have written this article about fucking Corrin.
>>321322040
That means Melee was worse because it had a higher percent of FE characters, with less franchises having playable characters
>>321322309
I remember seeing people going around being upset since Cloud only had a few games on a Nintendo system, is another third party, is not Geno, and isn't a NES-SNES Final Fantasy character.
It was both ways for the West and the East, a lot of people were happy but some people were indeed upset
http://legendsoflocalization.com/what-do-japanese-fans-think-of-cloud-in-super-smash-bros/
>>321322309
>FF7 was never on a Nintendo console
>FF7 was the end of FF on Nintendo, changing to Playstation instead
>Cloud as a character has only been in spin off games like Theatryhthm
It was probably more confusion.
>>321322381
>the game without assist trophies representing even more IPs
There are worse things to worry about in Smash than the roster at this point.
Some fantastic stages are stuck on the inferior 3DS version, the single player modes are crap, the online lacks options, tournament mode isnt good, etc.
>>321322913
>tournament mode isnt good, etc.
Allows me to play against /v/ with my mii so it's good enough for me.
>>321320540
>Countless trivial statements
How is this for trivial.
I don't give a shit about the roster, how about you stop fucking up the core mechanics of the series faggot?
Of course he's right
>>321323224
>How is this for trivial.
I don't give a shit about the roster, how about you stop fucking up the core mechanics of the series faggot?
Pretty fucking trivial, since Sakurai already stated before that each Smash game is meant to play differently then the others.
So Smash 5 will play nothing like any of the other games, and Smash 4 fags will be busy complaining how its the worse in the series. Hopefully by then Smash fags will have moved on to playing better games.
>>321322308
:^)
>>321323593
>, since Sakurai already stated before that each Smash game is meant to play differently then the others.
Then he's doing something wrong.
>>321320540
>Read whole article
>A truly serious problem….! He’s such a big name, and to hear him leave this franchise that has impassioned so many fans, a person who worked on the originals with his own hands, is incredibly sad and frustrating. Personally, George Lucas’s work is the work I would really like to see.
>There’s even a documentary called The People vs. George Lucas. It’s full of criticisms towards him, and I cannot agree with it.
>I personally enjoyed Episode I a lot, but there were some that didn’t feel this way.
So Sakurai really is the George Lucas of video games?
>>321322870
I'm not even talking about Assist trophies, I mean playable franchises. Smash 4 has a character from Wario, Kid Icarus, Wii Fit, Punch Out, Pikmin, Animal Crossing, Duck Hunt, Xenoblade, and ROB. Melee only has 13 franchises, with all stages only being restricted to franchises that have a fighter.
>>321323593
>Meant to play differently
>IT'S PRETTY TRIVIAL DIFFERENTLY UNLIKE SOMETHING LIKE ALPHA 2 TO ALPHA 3 MEANS BUTCHERING ALL THE MECHANICS AND MAKING IT A FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT GAME WITH A LOW SKILL CEILING.
>>321323709
was literally just about to comment on that
the guy who's labeled as japanese george lucas talks about appreciating george lucas' auteur work and sad he's left star wars
>>321323715
The worst part is that people will actually take this poster's word for it and not actually read the article themselves.
>>321323715
Japanese people usually have shit taste on western stuff just like we usually have shit taste on japanese stuff
>>321323926
>>321323926
shit, meant to quote >>321323715
Why are Smash Bros threads always full of damage control?
>>321322309
>I think that was primarily aimed at contrarian shitters who screamed and shouted "DURRHURR CLOUD IS AN IKE CLONE" before his release.
>>321324007
Is this a joke? Most popular anime in Japan is Gundam Seed, they have shit taste all around.
90% of /v/ really missed the point of this message and thats somewhat sad and reflective on your outlook on life.
>>321324160
Damnit, didn't mean to greentext.
>>321324256
His message was it's sad that creators quit.
He didn't create Smash though. He created Kirby and he created it as a platformer for babies who couldn't handle Mario. He openly states this in a talk. That is his design philosophy, make shit for babies. He sees melee as a failure because it isn't only for babies. He needs to fuck off and go make more Kirby games.
>>321320540
>It’s easy for negative opinions to be amplified, while positive opinions are quieted.
There goes that victim complex
What a baby
>>321324256
>28 unique IPs/posters is 90% of /v/
This "/v/ is one person/entity" bullshit really needs to stop.
>>321324517
How the fuck do you see unique posters?
>>321324596
Fucking lurk moar. Use google. USE YOUR EYES.
>>321320540
Look, faggot. I've been pretty happy with what you've done, I fucking love Smash 4.
But just don't treat the Zelda side like shit, declone Ganondorf or just make a real Ganon. And maybe add a new Metroid rep that isn't from Other M. That's pretty much all I want.
>>321323926
Kojima and Miyamoto have some competition
>>321324457
It's true, though.
Try to make a negative thread on /v/, then a positive one. The negative thread will have 5000% more posters and most of them at least somewhat agreeing with you.
The positive thread will have fewer posters and most if not all of them will be arguing with you and telling you you're wrong and that the game in question is shit.
Negative opinions are simply easier to sling, you don't have to defend them or back them up with much, and people will agree with you because there's no downsides. You can also act like a complete retard, throwing out buzzwords and smiley faces, which isn't as easily done for positive opinions.
>>321320540
Is that guy retarded or just pretending to hide the fact he's being paid under the table?
>>321325080
There are actual scientific studies on this. Negative opinions are always going to be heard over positive ones.
>>321324596
Hello, newfriend, look at the bottom right of the page, now back to my post, now back at the page, now back to my post. Sadly, it isn’t new, but if you stopped posting and switched to lurking, your posts could look less shitty like mine.
>>321324985
>just make a real Ganon
Aonuma first.
>>321325080
That's on /v/ though, dipshit. Try going anywhere else and the fanboys will come out to defend ANYTHING. You practically aren't allowed to criticize shit.
>>321325184
What kind of science bitch studies that?
>>321325080
Obviously for many reasons, not least of which being that there's no point in posting if all you're going to say is "I agree".
>>321325321
Social sciences, psychology, statistical sciences, game theory, etc.
>>321320540
Is he seriously comparing smash to starwars now, fuck people weren't upset about cloud people were upset about the ballot wasting everyone's time and the other bad decisions he did for smash 4
>>321325445
>Social Sciences
>Being a legit science
>>321325198
When the fuck did they add this?
>>321320540
>I am on the receiving end of countless amounts of truly trivial statements.
I agree with him, but this is sort of a pompous thing to say.
I guess I might find myself saying something similar if I was in his position, but still it comes off as quite the backhand.
> I honestly dislike Episode VI’s long-winded pacing and how easily the Empire Stormtroopers fall to the Ewoks. I think that the re-releases are redundant and superfluous. But, more than that, I am grateful that they showed me these various worlds, and let me enjoy them. Normally, I just don’t have the opportunity to vocalize my feelings of gratitude.
>I don’t want people who are involved in ‘creating’ things to become disheartened by criticism. Just being able to impart ‘fun’ to a lot of people is a blessing, after all.
Damn this is a lot of sudden truth and honesty all at once, I'm not sure if I'm impressed now or have just been underestimating him all along. There's a common belief Japanese politesse prevents them from saying certain things, but I guess it never dawned on me that doesn't mean they all think or believe as such.
On the whole he's sort of right. There's an obsession to go on about negatives and nothing just to do so. I guess as humans we just find it cathartic to be able to go apeshit over the slightest thing when we can get away with it since we can't normally. Breeds a kind of addict behavior where you'll take any chance to get your fix. Most of the people behind such criticism could get everything they want and nothing they don't and still find something to complain about or just dismiss the overall product as "Just okay" because honestly people don't want to be satisfied, once you're satisfied well, that's it. Satiation is the end of desire, so even something perfect just becomes run-of-the-mill. So it's better for a creator to focus on the creative process than perfection.
>>321325080
What games do you be posting about?
>>321325524
>Ignore every other thing he said to criticize the one you can greentext with a face thus proving the point.
>>321325524
I never claimed otherwise my man
What will it take for Sakurai to complete the transformation?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dnSORl9_oI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxf1c3fzDOU
>>321322482
i just think there were better options than cloud. i can understand WHY cloud but i would have liked to see another final fantasy rep over him.
>>321325529
before your time, in like late 2013. early 2014 maybe.
>>321325305
Smash Bros gets shat on everywhere on the internet. The autism count skyrocketed with the rise of e-celebs and e-sports, and now they all want the game to be a competitive fighting game.
>>321325080
>You can also act like a complete retard, throwing out buzzwords and smiley faces, which isn't as easily done for positive opinions.
Well, aren't you the most full of shit person I've seen in this cesspit over 8 years.
>>321325529
a year and a half ago or something I think. That was around the time I was no longer browsing 4chan. Then cripplechan became absolute dogshit (within 3 months).
>>321325584
Any game you want.
>>321325561
He means ep3, right?
>>321325690
Whatever you say.
>>321321623
>He's the George Lucas of Smash Bros.
Pottery.
>>321325727
You're the one who's full of shit, you assblasted little nigger. :^)
>>321321936
>1/10 of the roster
>from a sub-par strategy game that only started to sell respectable numbers when the strategy part of the game was moved aside to make room for waifu pandering
>the same amount as Pokemon, a critical success that literally anyone can recognize
>more than Kirby, a huge hit
>more than Zelda, another huge hit that normies at least recognize
Not even bringing up the point that out of any possible characters for DLC we got two FE characters.
I would be fine with this much FE representation if it either did something to warrant it or more deserving series got more reps too.
>>321325989
So is Tournament play dictated by high and low ground?
>>321326349
>from a sub-par strategy game
But you're not bitter at all.
>not liking Ewoks
>>321326712
Go away Lucas, Darth Icky was a horrible name suggestion
>>321325683
>another final fantasy rep over him.
Then that would of been Lightning. Which would of probably made japan happy but pissed off everyone else.
Cloud was far safer and far more iconic since ff7 was a huge leap in the series recognition. Not to mention tie in with upcomming remake.
>>321326571
It's boring as fuck and I love strategy games.
Funny enough in the next FE they're expanding on the waifu faggotry even more because people couldn't care less about the RPG mechanic.
>>321325989
>pottery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ZW1gtCljs
>>321320540
>Is he right?
Yes.
>>321321936
It is when actual important series like DK and Metroid only get two. Even at 4 reps FE was over represented. 5 was just salt in the wound. 6 is smearing shit in the wound.
>>321325861
The Ewoks thing was about ROTJ.
The re-releases are probably just about any Lucas shenanigans to go over any part of the series with pointless additions.
>>321327157
DK and Metroid have all the characters worth adding for their series though.
>>321325680
I fuckin' hate George Lucas.
>>321327651
No man, you don't understand! We need Dark Samus because two Samuses wasn't enough!
And we need Lanky Kong and Chunky Kong, and Kiddy Kong!
It's like people fucking forget that when people say Donkey Kong is iconic, THEY MEAN ONLY FUCKING DONKEY KONG. Not the rejects Rare made.
Same with Metroid, Samus is what is iconic. Would it be nice to have another one of the hunters? Yeah, but it's not the end of the fucking world.
>>321320540
Does anyone have that picture with Sakurai saying something like "You all voted for Goku. I hate you and you're not getting anything again ever."
>>321328019
>namefag
>being retarded
Surprising...
>>321328019
>Diddy Kong is a reject
>>321328346
He technically is, since he started life as a design they wanted to use for Donkey Kong Jr.
>>321320540
>It also ignores the many fans who were overjoyed at Cloud's addition
Where were you when memes won?
>>321328019
Stick to JAV threads, Oakland. You know very little about videogames.
>>321328346
Good thing I never mentioned Diddy Kong and he's already in Smash Bros.
Really, the only thing DK could go for is more stages, even if his stage in Smash 4 is great, more diversity WOULD be nice.
You could definitely say the same for Metroid. Both IPs do have quite a bit of stages, but they're all rather similar.
>>321328679
That only turned him into Eiji Aonuma.
Oh fuck, Sakurai already fell for the popular "Ep VI is bad" meme from /tv/
>>321328631
why did you even reply to me
With as popular as these little shits have gotten I'm surprised they didn't at least add a Splatoon stage. There was even precedent in Brawl for adding a stage from a popular series (Animal Crossing) before it got an actual roster spot.
>>321328861
So when is he gonna add a sword fighter character with the Sheev Spin?
>>321328926
Because I don't think Diddy is a reject. He's simple and has a nice design. It's everything AFTER DKC2 that looks horrible.
>Free Dessert
>>321325680
>Insist on single player campaign for multiplayer game...even when the team tells you that's not feasible
I'm not sure if like or dislike this kind of thinking.
>Knights of the Old Republics 3 cancelled. No one at Lucas Arts remembers why it was cancelled
Jesus H.R.Giger Christ.
>All that Lucas insanity
I'm just speechless right now.
Also big ups to Red Fly for playing balls like pros throughout all that bullshit.
I want Sakurai to slit his own throat for ruining smash beyond melee.
>>321329717DARTHICKY
>nintenbabies want ONLY characters from games from their nintentoys in smash bros
>>321320540
I'm actually a lot more pissed about fucking clones than the characters themselves.
Fucking Lucina has no right being a godamn character when shes just literally a female Marth, Dark Pit is a fucking waste of a character and Ganondorf is just a shittier version of Cpt. Falcon.
>>321321623
The original creation started off with Sakurai wanting to make a new fighter, in which he then consulted with Iwata. They make the prototype but wanted to throw in something to make it more unique, being using Nintendo characters. They made models without Nintendo's consent, demonstrated the prototype to Nintendo, then they agreed to it, making it start its full development.
Sakurai is the creator of Smash. From the very beginning.
Does this mean Smash is gonna have a greater emphasis on third parties in the future?
If so then it sucks to be niche
>>321322309
Japan didn't really like enjoy Cloud's inclusion all that much.
Cloud was for North America
Bayonetta was for Europe
Corrin was for Japan
>>321330365
Man, the characters on the right really emphasize how Nintendo has to rely on third party for the roster from here on out. All the big names and "needed" characters are already in the game.
>>321330251
But Anon, they are free dessert
>I am on the receiving end of countless amounts of truly trivial statements
What is he, Anita?
Stop whining bitch.
>>321322309
I saw plenty of dumb complaints. Here's a few.
>GOD, ANOTHER ANIME SWORD USER
>IKE CLONE
>TOO MUCH THIRD PARTY
>WHY THE FUCK IS A SONY CHARACTER IN MY NINTENDO FIGHTER WAAAAmay or may not be exaggerated
>>321330575
>What is he, Anita?
Confirmed
>>321330575
>tfw he lumps legitimate criticisms like "no stage hazard toggle", "insane custom move grinding" and "no regional matchmaking" as "truly trivial statements"
>>321330560
There are a fuckload of relevant nintendo characters still not in the game.
Hahaha Sakurai is the George Lucas of video games
>>321320540
Everything single thing I hear from this fucking guy is just petty and egocentric. Why is he directing a fanservice game if he has so much ire for the fans? I'm genuinely convinced he believes he can do no wrong, and yet Smash 4 is full to the brim with shit decisions that make absolutely no sense.
Fucking Smash tour.
>le george lucas
He'll never top Kojima.
Kojima even looks like him now.
>>321320540
These are things Sakurai has yet to discuss openly:
>Why did he intentionally fuck up the physics for both Brawl and Smash 4?
>Why did he intentionally remove combos or followup hits for everything after Melee, despite the fact that even casual players like to do combos using their favorite characters?
>Why do all the gameplay changes directly relate to how the competitive players play, despite Sakurai not wanting to acknowledge they exist?
>Why did he use the "they can just watch cutscenes on youtube" excuse for why there are no characters interacting with each other in Smash 4?
>He has yet to give an honest, non schizophrenic or bipolar opinion about how better players will always beat his precious casual players regardless of match conditions or game
>Why do some characters get alt. costumes while the rest of the cast can't even get one?
And he will never say anything, because he doesn't want to sound like a jackass more than he already does. Fuck him, I hope they get someone else for the next Smash game.
>>321330952
Outside of Captain N and Nester, I'm struggling.
>>321321936
>literally a fifth of the roster are FE characters
>isn't that much
>>321331087
Well his fans don't mind
>>321320540
>even sakurai knows how bullshit the ewoks were
>>321331273
>Captain N
>>321331087
people here waste their breath criticizing
nintendo has an adamantium strength auteur culture where one guy calls all the shots, and the overarching company's driven by a handful of old men who cut their teeth who make all the business decisions as well as the creative ones
once every leap year they'll extend an olive branch, like adding a single character from a marketing ballot, but don't expect even the bare minimum of criticisms to be addressed
>>321331201
Holy shit you're right
>>321331087
I knew this the moment he unironically said the only people complaining about what he does were just children.
>>321331554
He just needs to work on his turkey gobbler.
>>321331613
But since Nintendo targets the 5 to 12 age demographic, he's not wrong.
>>321331713
If Kojima is George, who is Sakurai?
Spielberg?
>>321331273
Inklings?
>>321322206
>mad platinium drone
>>321331975
No, I haven't got even one.
>>321325683
It could be worse. They could've picked Squall or Lightning. I personally think Cloud is a weird choice but at the same time he's the poster boy of the game that made the FF games staples.
Sure Onion Knight, Warrior of Light, or even a standard Chocobo would've been more fitting with Nintendo's history but I guess they would've been harder to market or make.
>>321331278
1/10 = 1/5?
>>321328019
This post says the truth.
Those kind of characters are far from being iconic and most of them stopped being relevant a long time ago and cannot even make sense as throwback retro characters.
It's like crying about why Goombella or Malon didn't make it to Smash.
>>321329091
They can't blow all their load, anon.
They need characters to advertise the possible Smash 5.
>>321329096
Meta Knight anon. He already added him.
>>321333820
No wonder he was so deadly in Brawl
>>321330251
The only reason people want him to be the same now of all times is so they can do Ganoncides. If he didn't have that this game then people would be wanting him to have original moves like everyone has.
>>321330824
Next Nintendo event, someone will ask why almost all custom moves suck ass.
His response will be stop harassing me you shitlord.
>>321330824
Does he?
Remember that Smash is a very popular franchise, and no matter what anyone says, children are a big demographic for them.
So he and his team have to deal with the worst kinds of youtube tier comments like why hasn't he added Master Chief or Jimmy Neutron and stuff like that.
Just as he said; the worst kind of comments are the easiest ones to reach out to him.
>>321320540
He's right. Smashest thing Sakurai said during the entire Smash4 development.
>MFW western devs are scared shit to do anything because of criticism.
That said, Corrin was still a shit inclusion. but hey, the dev staff wanted a character of their choosing as well.
>>321325524
case in point.
>>321324451
>He needs to fuck off and go make more Kirby games.
Considering he made Kirby into a baby with that anime, he can fuck right back off to Smash, Fire Emblem or Kid Icarus.
>>321320540
just declone ganondorf and toon link already
>>321324451
>>321335365
He stopped working on Kirby because he didn't want to be doomed to making Kirby sequels for all eternity
>>321320540
>For example, even I, as a fan (?) have my complaints with Star WarsLUKE SKYWALKER FORCES HIS HAND
>>321335778
ffs sakurai another swordsman? fuck off
>>321335778
>Not Darth Vader
Everyanon in this thread deserves a muff, familiar
>>321335778
Great, another Marth clone.
>>321335502
And look what happened. Kirby gets flanderized into a baby, but Smash gets a good director. Smash slowly becomes shit but Kirby gets a good director who gives nods and references.
Lose-lose situation.
>>321324985
I kind of have this feeling that Zelda franchise is fucked in Smash forever except for Sheik.
Zelda's shitty moveset is probably set in stone because it's been the same since Melee except for her new down B which is only useful when edgeguarding sometimes.
Ganon is probably never going to be a possibility because Ganondorf's final smash is him turning into Ganon
Ganondorf himself is in the same boat Zelda is in
Link and Toon Link are probably going to remain "spam projectiles first, use the master sword later".
On top of that, there really isn't a whole lot of characters to add because all of the main ones are reused every game and already in Smash. The only suitable characters I can think of are Impa, and MAYBE Midna or Skull Kid.
>>321336385
>isn't a whole lot of characters to add because all of the main ones are reused every game and already in SmashKOLO LIMPA
>>321335778
What would his final smash be
>>321336546
Critical Hit clone.
>>321336546
He lets go of all emotion and becomes one with the force
>>321336385
Tingle
>>321336546
crashing the millennium falcon into the arena
>>321336701
With no survivors?
>>321326571
Being bitter doesn't make him wrong. If his bitterness causes him to make shitty arguments then those arguments should be that much easier to dismantle. If in his bitterness his arguments are still sound then the bitterness is a non-issue. Simply calling him bitter is not an automatic I Win button.
>>321336491
>>321336678
I guess. I don't know how popular Tingle is in Nipland.
>>321337005
He got 2 spin off games Anon
>>321331736
I dunno if you want to start shit or not, but kids don't play Smash for extended periods of times. Smash is a series for teens and adults. 12 year old kids would rather play Calladoody or some other shit, not Smash because they find it too difficult.
Sakurai is a cunt.
>>321336253Poyo
>>321320891
Death of the Author bitch.
Just because they made something doesn't mean they know best.
>>321325243
Fuck off, retard.
>>321326952
A good chunk of these shots don't really align
Of course he would defend George Lucas.
>>321320540
>"And there were people that strongly criticized that, saying “Stop adding non-Nintendo characters!” This is completely ignoring the fact that I’ve added many, many Nintendo characters to Smash."
There's no way he doesn't realize how roundabout this logic is. He just doesn't give a fuck.
>>321342028
Is it wrong that I love it when devs say "fuck it I'm doing what I want to do"?
>inb4 samurai apologist
>>321342272
It's only a problem when there's a monopoly involved.
If Capcom did something retarded with SFV and then said that, people would just shrug and move to Arcsys or at least a different Capcom title.
But if the creator of Smash shits the bed, where do you go? Melee's getting old, PM's dead, and there's literally no other choice. Samurai has a responsibility that he's neglecting at the cost of the consumers. Smash has a monopoly on the competitive platform fighter genre, and every misstep he takes has ramifications that will last until the next Smash in half a decade.
>Mario, Sonic, Mega Man, and Cloud are all playable characters in a single game
>people are still going to try and persuade others that Sm4sh's roster is the worst of the series
Sakurai isn't the brightest star in the galaxy, but are we seriously complaining about this?
There's a whole list of things (one so long you might be able to stretch it between Seattle and San Fancisco) the guy can do better with Sm4sh, but of all things to complain about, the roster?
Ten years ago, we all would've been shitting our pants with excitement.
>>321338132
>>321344632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBvRzwXxzSQ
Third Party characters were an absolute mistake. All of them. Non-Nintendo characters don't belong at all but hey gotta pander to those Japanese right?
>>as a fan (?) have my complaints with Star Wars.
DARTH VADER CONFIRMED FOR SMASH 5
Smashfags are the ultimate autists, prove me wrong.
>>321330251
Something like Dark Pit probably only took an hour to make after Pit.
Shit like Ganon is just a shame though.
Fuck melee for halfassing him.
>>321344267
>Ten years ago, we all would've been shitting our pants with excitement.
The fanbase poisoned itself against Sakurai, and now can't meet any kind of change without sperging out.
>>321345068
>Non-Nintendo characters don't belong at all but hey gotta pander to those Japanese right?
Both Cloud and Bayonetta were meant to attract western audiences
>>321334603
Then why the fuck put a walking fucking ad out of all choices.
I refuse to believe the entire dev team woke up one day and thought "OH BOY I TOTALLY WANT THIS DRAGONKIN I'VE JUST MET INSTEAD OF OTHER CHARACTERS I'VE LOVED FOR YEARS LIKE A CHOCOBO, SNAKE, RAYMAN OR THE LEFT PADDLE OF PONG" and skipped giggling to their cubicles giggling like a lovestruck teenager, to met their pals on misery and tell "GUYS, I'VE GOT THE BEST IDEA EVER", "DUDE ME TOO" "ME THREE"
There's no fucking humane reason for this sorry excuse of shoehorning a character other than product placement
>>321345068
Third party reps were the best addition. As long as an iconic character or franchise has history with Nintendo consoles they should have a rep.
The third party characters are all great.
Better than many first party additions.
Whiny babbies need to eat a dick.
>>321345680
>Then why the fuck put a walking fucking ad out of all choices.
Because Fire Emblem If is very popular in Japan and Korrin/Kamui > Aqua/Azura in popularity.
>>321344267
Seriously. The older Smash gets, the younger and more baby like its fanbase gets
>Melee has two Fire Emblems
>"I don't know who these characters are but cool!"
>Brawl takes one out, puts in a new one
>"Aw, I liked MUH BOY ROY, but Ike is cool too!"
>Smash 4 has the three prior, plus adds one new, adds one barely there clone, and one DLC who isn't even out yet
>"UGH ALL THESE FUCKING FIRE EMBLEM SWORD ANIMES RUIN THE REST OF THIS FUCKING FIFTY-EIGHT CHARACTER ROSTER"
That's the really sad part. Even if you hate Fire Emblem utterly, that's FIFTY-TWO other characters available to play as. Fifty-fucking-two. How many other games can even say rosters that big? The roster really is the last thing anyone should ever complain about for Smash.
>>321321064
It is when you have friends.
Darth Icky in Smash when
>>321346263
>/v/
>Having friends
>>321345997
It really isn't popular in Japan. The franchise nearly died when FE12 wasn't localized because it cut the game's sales in half. Even if it was popular, it'd make less sense to advertise it when it would sell decently without an ad than a franchise that could use the promotion. It makes no sense no matter how you look at it.
>>321346590
Is Sakurai a poet?
>>321322482
>a few games on a Nintendo system
Like what? Theatrhythm? That new one coming out?
>>321346685
>After internal analysis, we decided that if we’re going to make DLC, we would choose a character from a soon-to-be-released new game. After consulting many times with Nintendo and looking at the upcoming release schedule, Fire Emblem Fates was in just the right spot. It’s already been released in Japan, but is yet to be released overseas, making it a prime candidate in terms of timing. I personally felt that having too many Fire Emblem characters was a problem, but after talking it over with the development staff and discussing logistics, I felt certain that I could make them a fun character.
>>321320540
Can nintendo buy the rights for Sony Allstars or whatever were headed in that direction might as well do it now
>>321321441
Yes. Deal with it fag. The third party characters are awesome. You're pissed that a small part of 60 slot roster isn't first party.
Like he said, trivial.
>>321346906
>Theatyhthm
>Chain of Memories
>reCoded
>Final Fantasy Explorers (it's already out in Japan)
Granted they were never major roles
>Despite the fact that Japan voted FF7 as their second favorite FF of all
>Despite voting Cloud as their favorite FF male character (twice)
>Were suppose to believe that Cloud was added to appeal to Americans
>The same Americans who are sick and tired of 7 for overexposure and constant bad spinoffs
>The same Americans who have far shown to have preference toward 6 and 9 instead (the latter even being the highest ranked FF title review wise)
>Cloud appeals to the West
What a joke
>People who have watched Star Wars before know what the “Force” is. They know the familiar glow of a lightsaber, or what the Jedi Order is. They know the differences between the Trade Federation, the Republic, the Empire, and the Rebels, they know the destinies of Anakin’s son and daughter, and about the Dark Side of the Force. The film is undoubtedly constructed with the assumption that the audience is familiar with all of these details about the world and story of Star Wars. This isn’t done to alienate the first-time viewer, but because it is impossible to explain all of the minute details of every component in one film.
>An overall trait of the Star Wars series is that they tend to reach the end quickly. They minimize detailed depictions and explanations, and they cut from one scene to the next very fast. Although because of that, there are some criticisms that say the films feel rushed, and don’t explain the settings very well. But I disagree– it’s because they cut out the overly detailed exchanges that they can stuff as many great scenes into the film as possible, which lets us enjoy the dense progression of the story. If they wanted to, they could make it like Twelve Angry Men where they spend one film solely on the arguments of a council, but that’s not the path the this movie should take. On this level, it’s similar to the Gundam series. It’s a bit difficult to understand just from the main story. By getting more explanation and details from other places, you finally get a full understanding.
>Sakurai: On the other hand, I’m not expecting exceptional fight choreography from a human drama type film. I just don’t like seeing the style of criticism where you start with the maximum number of points and slowly take off points for whatever reasons. Although it’s just a personal opinion, of course.
http://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/12/23/sakuraifastpace/
>>321322040
Current Smash Bros roster:
>Fire Emblem: Marth, Ike, Robin, Lucina, Roy, Corrin
>Mario: Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Yoshi, Dr. Mario, Bowser Jr., Rosalina
>Pokemon: Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Lucario, Charizard, Greninja, Mewtwo
>Zelda: Link, Zelda, Sheik, Ganondorf, Toon Link
Let's start cutting down on Mario, Pokemon, and Zelda characters.
>>321331278
Holy shit anon what is 6x5
The People vs Masahiro Sakurai when?
>>321333052
why would anyone who likes the greatest video game developer of all time be mad? platinum is getting crazy love. if anything, we're over joyed to a state of pure euphoria and not the kind that tips fedoras.
>>321347372
>the west is sick of FF7
>the west prefers FF6 and FF9 to FF7
wew lad
>>321347372
>>The same Americans who are sick and tired of 7 for overexposure and constant bad spinoffs
>>The same Americans who have far shown to have preference toward 6 and 9 instead (the latter even being the highest ranked FF title review wise)
Never seen anybody project his own views onto a whole region this hard.
>>321347372
I think that's just you, mate.
I can see Sakurai's criticisms of Star Wars Episode VI becoming meme material in the near future
>>321333820
>>321350276
How so?
>>321331278
>literally
>>321320540
>added many, many Intelligent System characters to Smash
FTFY
>>321351890
If that was the case than he would have added Andy, Paper Mario, Pushmo cat, and maybe Henry Fleming
>I honestly dislike how easily the Empire Stormtroopers fall to the Ewoks
100% agree
>>321348547
Seriously, what a clown
That's how most of /v/ thinks
People always get pissed when Nintendo gives any attention to a franchise that isn't Zelda/Mario/Pokemon.
>>321353889
And people get pissed when they do give them attention.
People are perpetually mad.
Sakurai's biggest problem is that he looks to the 'unspoken audience' as a way of validating his design decisions in the face of criticism. Rather than actually saying 'It's my game, I can do what I want with it' he prefers to instead claim he's giving a voice to people that normally don't have one.
I literally don't understand why he hates valid criticism so much and why he doesn't seem to understand how important film criticism can be. It is THE MOST important aspect of understanding any piece of work because through criticism arises discussion and through discussion comes deeper insights.
A lot of Smash 4's criticism can be seen as pretty shit I agree, however he also tends to avoid the issue that a lot of characters in the game are absolutely horrendous to play as in either a party setting or a competitive one. Not just that though, but Smash 4 more than any other game suffers from a lot of content bloat and lacking features. A bunch of useless modes that are poorly designed, poor online support etc.
I actually don't know many people who are more excited for first party reps than third party reps.
I wonder how hard he'd have to scrape the bottom of the barrel in terms of Nintendo character by Smash 9 or 10.
>>321322206
>posting two shitty hacks no one likes
>>321331273
>Toad
