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Why do people donate to streamers? I mean, I can understand watching
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Why do people donate to streamers? I mean, I can understand watching them but giving away money for playing a game? Hmm.
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>>321288782
It is proof that there is litterally too much money in the hands of retards. In my opinion these streamers are doing a service to humanity by taking the cash away from people who are too dumb to handle it and putting it in the hands of more qualified minds.
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>>321288782
Welcome to the Autism Age.

>>321289159
>there is litterally too much money in the hands of retards.
This. Though I disagree with the rest.
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>>321289159
>It is proof that there is litterally too much money in the hands of retards.

Do you not understand how this works? Money in the hands of retards is GOOD.
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>tfw you're not a cute girl who gets paid to play shit games
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>>321289159
>>321289252
ITT post-college kids who can't get a job

>>321288782
Someone provides you with content to enjoy, it's pretty natural to give them something in return so that they keep giving you entertainment.

They either get money via advertisements because you won't give them money but still watch them, or you can keep them advertisement and cancer free by donating small amounts.
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Whats funnier is when a donator sends like 500$ and asks for something simple like a selfie with their cat, or to let them play a match with them, and the streamer is like nah.. sorry... maybe later
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>>321289615
>Not wasting something means they lack that something
Kek'd sincerely. At that and your rationalisation.
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shut the fuck up retards, its my money and if i want to donate it to jim's patreon so he can make more videos and doesn't have to get a job so he can't make as much videos, thats my choice
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>>321288782
>giving money in exchange for a service they enjoy
Fundamentally it's no different from tipping a waiter.

People who give $300 dollars because a cute girl smiles at the webcam are pathetic though. The dick might be strong, but you need to have some kind of self control.
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>>321288782
why do people do anything?

we just don't know.
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>watch a small stream compared to big twitch streams
>only a few hundred viewers per stream
>same person donates an accumulated hundreds of dollars

I don't get it either.
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>>321289615
>>321290754
The fact that you're so easy to trigger shows that deep down you know you're acting like pathetic, friendless, faglords.

For these people you're nothing but a bleeding wallet. Remember that the next time you grab your credit card.
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I want to be her chair...
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>>321290757
>slap that follow butt
>referring to largest donation as biggest D
It's so blatant, but it's genius.
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>>321291092
>that g2a logo

OY VEY GOYIM
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>>321290757
Holy fucking crap. It's fucking disgusting to watch. It's like observing the lowest level of a certain thing.
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>>321290115
>500$
Biggs are you retard?
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>>321291265
At least the people on both ends on cam sites aren't kidding themselves.
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>>321291238
just about everyone has one
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>>321291396
What?
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Anyone who donates obscene amounts of money to a girl streamer either has never even had a gf, or doesn't realize 350 buys you an 8/10 escort in most major cities.

I once donated 5 to a charity stream. Didn't leave a stupid comment for them to read either.
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>>321292201
>350 buys you an 8/10 escort in most major cities
yeah but then you need to get a hotel, motel, holiday inn because i can't have this anonymous person i'm paying for sex to see my amiibo shelf
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>>321290943
REKT
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>>321292308
>yeah but then you need to get a hotel, motel, holiday inn because i can't have this anonymous person i'm paying for sex to see my amiibo shelf
>can't have this anonymous person i'm paying for sex to see my amiibo shelf
>can't have this anonymous person see my amiibo shelf

Yeah, I mean, what kind of impression would you give that hooker? You can't have that.
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The facebook generation grew up to be absolute cuckolds. They would rather watch someone else play their games, and even pay for the "privilege".
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>>321293034
We're not talking about $20 blowjobs from a black crackwhore.You pay the big bucks for an escort so you can spend an hour pretending you have a beautiful girlfriend.
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It's basically the new generation of that guy standing out on the sidewalk in a city playing a guitar.

The only difference is a trustfunder would normally walk away from the street musician with actual skill and instead watch someone on twitch play memegame 2944 and donate to them $2,000.
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>>321293597
>You pay the big bucks for an escort so you can spend an hour pretending you have a beautiful girlfriend.
Take her to dinner with your parents then instead of fucking her.
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>>321289615
nice bait desu, here's your (You)'s :^DD
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>>321294295
But then they'll ask how long we've been together and how we met, then I'll have to answer "We've been together for exactly fifteen minutes now and we met on classyanalwhores.jp"
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>>321295120
My point was, you don't need to hide your power level with a hooker. Or with someone you will never see again, for that matter.
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69 cent donations that just call the streamer out on their bullshit are funny.
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>>321296931
What's the minimum you can donate? Calling out the streamer and their cucks could be fun.
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I just lurk female streamers with big boobs and never comment or donate. You retards can keep paying them for me.
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>>321298671
Isn't it better to just download some HD porn and rub one out?
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>>321289615
The content is them sitting around playing games and pretending to be popular. This is not a resource intensive-service and requires no pay or revenue to maintain.
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>>321288782
They're rich desperate retards who get tons and tons of money from their parents that they don't know what to do with em.
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At least give some money to a real camgirl and get some snapchats of her pussy now and then
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>>321299649
I like variety. Sometimes it's nice to fap to a twitch slut, other times I'll go for a real camwhore, and the rest I will just use standard porn.

Either way, no woman will ever receive money from me over the internet.
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>>321300057
I have no pics of her right now, but I'd pay some eurodollars to see Kittens again.

Or any other woman of similar physical appeal.
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>tfw follow camwhores on twitter and they are really vapid, entitled, and dumb

Hard out there for a sugar daddy
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>>321300125
You do realize you are raping them right?
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>>321302428
Bait on xmas eve is against the rules, son. Didn't you read Hiroshimoot's editorial?
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>>321302428
Good
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>>321302595
You are pleasuring yourself without their permission.
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>>321301890

there are torrents of her ya know
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>>321302930
I don't need permission to have a cheeky fap. That's what makes it cheeky.
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>>321296446
You're arguing with an autistic faggot that clearly has never touched boobs in his life LOl.
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>>321301890
I know. I'd be seeding that right now if I hadn't backed it up in my mother's computer (I don't have that many storage). I meant someone like her. She was a true blessing. That's why it fills me with dread when I see these dead inside cvcks paying in exchange for nothing.

>>321302930
I never asked a girl permission to masturbate thinking about her. The only one I notified was my then-gf and she was very pleased to hear it.

It could never be considered rape since there's no interaction whatsoever with the 'victim'.

Bait has to be subtle in order to accomplish its function. Obvious bait is wasted bait, anon. Enjoy your (you). Happy holidays.
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>>321304623
Yeah, I know. I meant to save him time whenever he decides to leave /v/irgin town and bang a professional. Though I bet most decorations in his bedroom won't help him nutting later.
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>>321306058
>tfw the only reason I haven't hired a prostitute is because I can't bear them looking down on me
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this one time i almost donated to vinny, i really wanted him to get that new capture card
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>>321306332
I donated to a youtuber once before the Patreon days because he lost his job and couldn't pay his bills. I'm not going to say who it was because it is cringe-tier looking back. At least I was able to do a nice thing, though.
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>>321288782
The answer is always cuks, whenever there is something involving women and money the answer is cuks.
As with the guys they are paying for the friend/community experience.
Both situations are pathetic as hell.
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>>321306312
They suck cock for a living, anon. Get some sense of self worth, please. It's painful to read what you just wrote and I have an Empathy of 2/10.
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>>321288782
Autismbux are never really "well-spent" in any capacity.
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>>321306578
Cuck filter is kill.
Happy holidays, anon!
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>>321306629
And if you hire an escort, that means that you have to have sex with someone who sucks cock for a living, because no one else loves you and no one else is willing to have sex with you.
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>>321306940
Non sequitur. There are a number of other reasons, just like that anon who is insecure as fuck. That doesn't mean he isn't gentle, kind, loving, funny, and all the crap that a woman wants in her offspring's father.

You could be someone who isn't looking to get involved romantically with anyone and yet wants to fuck. In that situation you either put time and some money into dating or put money and some time into banging whores.

Besides, hookers are used to fucking people who contracts hookers, so it would be absurd if they looked down on you. Do you copy?
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>>321306940
Women are fickle, anon. I've fucked plenty of women when I was younger but there were time where I just couldn't get any no matter how hard I tried. This is the benefit of escorts. I've fucked 3 escorts and I don't have the slightest bit of regret.
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BREAKING NEWS: Women are whores
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>>321307942
Dumb trumposter.
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It's a lie. There are very few people who actually do give money to streamers, but only the dumbest of the dumb. The vast majority of donations come from people the streamers know or employ and set up a show of donations, with them giving off money that will be returned and influencing the few retards who follow the herd and give away to do so.

TL;DR: donations are fake, only a few clueless gullible dumbasses give money for real.
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>>321308198
It's not a lie. My roommate is a Twitch girl and she literally makes hundreds of dollars doing absolutely nothing.

The only catch is that you need to wait a few months to touch the money. Spiteful guys can make dozens of donations and then claim suspicious activity and do a chargeback and fuck over the streamer. If you have an appropriate buffer period/dedicated betas though, it's a non-issue.

>mfw she literally pays the rent by streaming video games for 2 hours a day
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>>321308198
[citation needed]
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>>321298114
I don't think that calling people out really works if you have to pay them for the privilege. Who's going to respect your insult if you're paying them for the right to say it? It's laughable.
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>>321309787
You'd think it would be common sense that the first rule of mocking a twitch girl is NEVER give her money.
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>>321298114
>>321309787

You can set the minimum donation in twitch so it's like $3 or even higher to avoid the "Paypal takes a cut and there's no money left" shit. And some streamers like Reynard literally make a living off people "calling them out" or "le ebin troll".

People paid him hundreds of dollars in $3 insult increments to make fun of his forehead and other dumb shit while he "got mad", aka fake raged his way to the bank.
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>>321309969
reynad actually unironically gets mad when people make fun of him, it's not a joke
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>>321310160
A lot of them actually do get mad, but they're still making bank so who cares.

Paying to insult someone is cringe as fuck.
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>>321288782
>you will never have two autists caught in a donation war while you play games
all this shobab guy got was a mod spot
he doesn't get to play with him or have any special privilege, he's just a mod on a sub 10k viewer stream
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>>321310426
reynad turns off the stream due to mad every other day, and once "quit forever" (for 3 days)
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>>321310483
It's just some faggot arab with too much money and nothing to do, brah
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>>321310483
Would you play with someone because they donated to you? Do you realize how fucking WEIRD some of those top donator types are?
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>tfw no one will give you ridiculous amounts of money for playing vidya
>tfw no one will bother watching you play vidya
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>>321290757
Lol the money these people are donating could actually just be used on escorts instead

Lowest of the low indeed
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>>321288782
to make friends
I know, i'm at that stage too
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>>321306332
Don't worry anon, I already paid for it. :)
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Streamers aren't just people who play video games. They're social entities and leaders of communities. It's very important for people, especially lonely people, to feel that they are part of a team. They donate to feel a connection to the streamer and the other people who donate. This is why streamers make it a point to give donators shoutouts, talk with their subscribers, and even give names to their communities. It's tribalism. And yes, people will pay money for that.
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>>321288782
Mob mentality and brainless decision making. More common than you think.
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>>321311069
I love that fucking indian brah so much. No one makes poorfags cry and squeal like him.
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>>321302930
I'm going to masturbate to the thought of you tonight, anon. I hope you feel it. Every stroke.
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female twitch streamers and their viewers are pretty much everything wrong with the video game fanbase today
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>>321311506
Disagree.

Mobile gamers and people who actively support Anita Sarkeesian are everything wrong with video games.
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>>321311506
it's not just the females. man vs game was taking a lot of drugs and staying up for days at a time, and influencing people to do the same. it's really fucking awful. they are TOYS. we are paying ADULTS TO PLAY WITH TOYS.
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I furiously masturbate to Miramisu, but that turgid cow will never get my money.
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>>321311816
>people who actively support Anita Sarkeesian
basically the same betas (to use the term correctly) who suck up to female twitch viewers.

why, you think they actually like these women? it's really just to satisfy their fantasy of being with a grrrl gamer even though those girls don't actually enjoy games and know how to exploit pathetic men's desires for money
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>>321288782
Supporting something you like. It's optional.
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>>321290757
I'd hit, but what the fuck are those pants?
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>>321300125
>Sometimes it's nice to fap to a twitch slut
Never tried this before. Adding to bucket list.
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>>321290757
>Fundamentally it's no different from tipping a waiter.

except waiters are actually doing work and gets paid less than min wage so they need tips to survive
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>>321311942
sounds fun desu
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Do you realize how powerful streamers are today? Big publishers treat them as Vip Gamers and indie devs humiliate themselves subscribing to them or tweeting incessantly in hope they play their game.
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Because then kaceytron will read your haha funny message
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I gave WitWix a dollar so I could tell a funny joke on stream and have people compliment me on my humor

It was well worth it.

I have friends.
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How to be successful at life:
>Be a handsome individual

That's literally it. People nowadays give everything to cute people for whichever reason, the same applies to toddlers.

And their parents who gave them that beauty get nothing out of it.
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I gave $5 dollarydoos to ster_
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The one and only donation I made was 10$ to this girl who plays nothing but Halo and streams with her kinect. She was wanted a Mac copy of Zoo tycoon so I paid for it.
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>>321314416
that's why there was a bunch of stupid drama involving his drug use and he stopped streaming and kept complaining that he wasn't able to take drugs anymore :^)
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>>321290754
>Haveing to pay some nobody to be your friend and provide otherwise free entertainment

Wow your life must be terrible
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>>321315330

>not being handsome

Step it up.
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>>321302110
Can you list some names, I want to see it as well?
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>>321314106
It's easy, m8. Just pick one showing the most boobs and have a cheeky fap while she sucks at games.
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only stream i would ever donate even a single penny to is Game Done Quick. It's for charity and those fucking nerds are actually doing shit that requires some skill, not just some fucktard sitting around playing whatever between talking about their worthless fucking life
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>>321315689
I'm not going to let you hunt me down buddy. Go on Chaturbate, pick the "alt" ones that have tattoos and shit, then go to their Twitter (they've all got a fucking account, it isn't hard) and read their hot opinions.
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>>321315571
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>>321291092
What the fuck is wrong with her leg, why the fuck did she sit on it like that?
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>>321290757
>Fundamentally it's no different from tipping a waiter.

ie: something that doesn't happen outside of America because only Americans are that insane
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>>321315740
This is still the most austistic thing that /v/ consistently regurgitates

fucking no one watches streams for gameplay. They watch it for the streamer who is often providing some sort of humorous commentary.
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>>321315713
I don't even have a Twitch account, so I wouldn't know where to start. That's a task for another day, though.
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>>321314405
Fuck waiters. My gf is a server and makes at least 300$ a night in tips. And if you seriously think their job is hard fuck off. The cooks slave away 12 hours a day without breaks making barely 100 a day.

Seriously, we live in a handout society. Any time I hear a server complain about their job I die a little inside.
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If only I was a neet faggot. Have all the equipment but no time.
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>>321316015
>humorous commentary.
incessant screaming and rape jokes aren't funny
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>>321316163
what kind of bullshit restaurant does your girlfriend work at that doesn't split the tips between the waiters and the cooks?
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>>321302930
>this b8

Topest kekle I've had in some time
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>>321316152
Nigga you don't need no twitch account. Just go here and pick whichever one looks sluttiest:
http://topstreamers.com/ladies
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>>321316273
>rape jokes aren't funny
I'd like for you to go back to Tumblr
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>>321316163
>TFW so ugly I'm easy to remember
>They'll know if I didn't tip and will spit on my food

Thank you society
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>>321316380
>go back to gaia!!
they're still not funny. they're funny to 12 year olds who get a rush from hearing someone talk about something sexual.
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>>321288782
i dont watch tv, movies, anime, and soprts anymore. Streamers are my main entertainment so why shouldnt they get some bonus money on the side for providing me entertainment? let me guess, you're a NEET and just pirates anything anyway. you expect things to be free.
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>>321316579
They still won't fuck you Nu-Male
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>>321316619
>soprts
Support life ain't easy
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>>321316285
Servers split tips with bus boys, not cooks. The only places cooks make a decent wage are at high class restaurants. Some cooks receive tips directly in fact. But anywhere else in America they're shafted hard. I worked at Golden corral for 2 years in the kitchen working every position, working long days, working holidays with no overtime; I was treated like shit while the servers collected hundreds of dollars a night.

Working like a nigger gives you a lot of perspective.
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>>321316380
streamfag detected
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>>321316163
>The cooks slave away 12 hours a day without breaks making barely 100 a day.
Dude's got a point.
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Because in this age hurting someones feelings is considered worse than murder.
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>>321316163
>work in a factory
>pulling them 12 hour shifts in December at min wage
>if I can even keep a job down
>server moans when I don't tip
>or adds the tip onto the bill automatically
why do people just assume everyone has enough money to give it away to others? If you need those extra few coins so bad just add it onto the menu price
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>>321316710
God damn man, feel sorry for ya.
Have you found better job opportunities?
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>>321316669
but they'll fuck you for screaming like a retard and talking about raping an unconscious woman in a video game :)
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>>321316873
>server moans when I don't tip
how would you tell?

I leave tip as I leave
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>>321316910
Uh... they do.

PewDiePie and Sodapoppin scream and yell and they're both rich and can probably shag any girl they want.
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>>321316981
Some servers bring your change and wait for you to tip before leaving to attend other customers. If they don't see you counting voins they walk away infuriated.
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>>321315862
so you can see her bare foot
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>>321316503
You literally have nothing to worry about. Servers are just bitchy pussies. Never feel the need to tip if the service was shit, or at all. Trust me, some other fuck will come along and make it up to them. Servers play the sympathy card when they aren't making a lot of money directly to their tables and the tables tip them fat.
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>>321316981
mostly delivery guys I guess, people like to sigh when they feel like they've been shafted. I used to drop a bit of pocket change if I liked the food at a place. I stopped doing that at chain places when I found out the management likes to pocket a share and the chef likely gets none though.
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>>321317191
This has literally never happened to me and I live in California, the most entitled state in the United States
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>>321317074
>and they're both rich
great, so they can buy a woman. no woman wants them because they scream and make rape jokes, you idiot.
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>>321317309
Screaming and rape jokes are what made them rich retard

Go cry about it on your blog
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>>321317292
Hmm, am foreign so don't know the situation over there, do they just expect the tip to be left at the table?
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>>321316898
I sell trees now. Been doing it for a year and it pays the bills, especially since I don't smoke.

If I do get a job again it will be something easy where I never have to work like a Mexican again.

I appreciate the sincerity.
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Theyre in fact all part of an illegal drug and whore ring, and launder their money while they have some of their "streamers" semi whore herself out on the net on the day, while being pounded at night

Dont mess with them, trust me
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>If i donate some money he'll be my friend :)
>HI X here's some cash now please say thank you and make me feel like I'm part of something while i cry myself to sleep every night
It reminds me of that fat mexican kid ''talking'' to pewdiepie about his chores in the youtube comments
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>>321288782
They want a slice of fame by having their name up on a board or some shit

aka pathetic people throwing money at pathetic attention whores
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>>321316873
Hey FUCKER, if you can't afford a tip, you're TOO POOR TO GO TO A RESTAURANT.

Buy some fucking rice and beans and cook your own food, it costs like $2 you stupid ignorant fuck.
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>>321317416
That's what I do
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>>321317238
I stopped tipping when I found out that seevers and bartenders make minimum wage if they don't get tipped on their lower wages.
So if a bartender works at $4 an hour and doesn't make what he would have got on the regular Munimum wage (lets say $8) the company has to pay him what he would have made working at $8 an hour.
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>some people actually ask for a tip
>they don't realize this is effectively begging on the job, while you're getting an actual paycheck
do they have no pride?
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>>321290757
has she no shame
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>>321317605
lmao fuck pride

I will gladly whore out my dignity for extra cash

pride is literally the most useless thing to have in the entire world
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>>321317416
They expect you to worship the ground they walk on and thank them for taking up such a "demanding" job. Anything less and they'll talk shit about you to the other servers.
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>>321317394
just sitting around screaming and making rape jokes made them rich? i thought it was all the little kids they milk for money, you handsome devil you, want to come to my birthday party?
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>>321317606
Does she need it? Think about it, you've been fed lies. She is cute enough that she'll easily snag a beta husband before her looks fade, and she'll be supported the rest of her life.

She could do literally ANYTHING right now during her prime and it's not going to change the fact that a beta will be there for her on the other side.

Don't worry about her. Worry about betas.
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>>321317418
Am Mexican and I understand completely. Family's going to have a hard time keeping my college paid and am contemplating working part-time. Good luck to the both of us huh.
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>>321288782
Because they feel the need to pay for some vicarious friendship.

It's the same shit with GameGrumps, people watch it because they have no friend to play video games or laugh about stupid shit with, so they want to experience it through other people.
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>>321317892
and if you watch GameGrumps with your friends?

what then
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>>321317605
pride?these parasites have no pride.
There's this one guy on twitch who pretended to be disabled but got caught.
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>>321317940
Then you and your friends are kind of gay desu senpai
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>>321317940
Pre or Post JonTron
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>>321290757
Christ these people are pathetic
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>>321317686
are you a nigger?or just dirt poor
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>>321289615
>Gets paid by the Twitch
>LETS JUST THROW MORE MONEY AT THEM.
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>>321317874
I worked with some bad ass first gen Mexicans. They're funny, work hard and know how to make the time pass quicker. This 2nd Gen I worked with was going to school and working, both full time, so it's totally possible. He wanted to help his parents and pay them back for paying for his school.

My parents were drug addicts so I had to make my own way.
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>>321293758
>street musicians
>skilled
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>>321317418
>kind of like working like a mexican
>none of the mexican-tier jobs give a fair wage, might as well get paid to sit in an office and do fuck all for 8 hours a day or ring up some customers at some shitty store
feels pretty terrible man
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>>321318386
You've never met one worth tossing copper at.
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>>321317538
I'm gonna treat myself to a $10 takeout every few weeks and there's nothing you can do about it jamal.
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>>321306940
wtf you talking about fucking retard?
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>>321319678
Oh sorry, too personal for you? It's the truth, and she knows it. Getting paid for sex is meaningless, she can still form real relationships with other people. What about you?
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>>321319563
Man I saw some grotty looking tramp in a bus stop rocking the cello before, not enough money in the world for the quality that fuck was playing.
and then I've seen two students murdering "Mr. Brightside" with an out of tune acoustic. Busking licenses should come with a strict test.
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>>321290757
ok how do i convince my gf to let me whore her out like this? she doesn't play vidya but fuck it she can just watch netflix and i'll be playing the game in the stream window
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>>321315862
>not sitting like that everytime

i thought everyone did that....
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>>321320549
Found the sissy
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I'm confused about it as well. There are people giving thousands of dollars to some camwhore on twitch that never gets nude or even shows tits and they barely even get any aknoledgement in return.

I mean if they had that money to waste on cam4 or somthing, they could have a personal private camwhore that would almost sucking their cock from all the attention they will give.
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This thread make me go on twitch and for the first time ever, and within 30 seconds (Im not exagerating, it was probably like 8-9 seconds) someone donated 1000$ and music starts blaring at full volume and the girls go afk ans start crying
I wish I was born femakle just to take advantage of this free shit
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>>321321906
I worded that post wrong, i dont mean that was the first donation ive seen, I mean that it was the first time I went on twitch
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>>321321906
Why even be born a female when all you need is to just barely pass as one. They never show their cunts so if you are just a femboy you could pass as a woman enough to rip off losers.
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>>321322087
I could probably pass as a girl if I put some effort into it, but the voice would be a dead giveaway. Its a pretty deep essex-London accent
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>>321321723
they probably do

most of those rich donators are like saudi guys who probably pay instagram models to fly out to dubai

You have to understand that 1k is literally nothing to them. They just do it so that the poorfolk will act like they are their gods.
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>>321322241
The realization that top donors are just rich and bored, not desperate, is what really takes the fun away from Twitch.
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Don't really care, these whores will be jobless in a few years because their resume will be blank.
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>>321322370
See >>321317796

Don't pretend like she needs a job.
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>>321318089
i'm living pretty well

I'm an accountant

But id dance naked in the street and tell everyone I suck cocks for a living if it meant someone gave me a job that paid 30k a month

the only people who care about pride are either people who don't have a job and think other people should be as poor as them or people who are billionaires and money isnt a problem to them in the first place
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>>321322197
there are tons of videos by and for trannies on youtube on how to train your voice. i always pretend to be grill in mmos so i did that when i started raiding

i feel like a real piece of shit too because all the dude want to fug and i feel like i'm leading them on because i dont want to break their poor little beta hearts by telling them to stop awkwardly hitting on me

barring that, voice modulating software has been getting better in recent years
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>>321322804
Bullshit, show me a tranny who actually sounds like a girl.
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The only streamers I watch regularly is some black guy playing old games and a slighly overweight woman. They never ask for donations and have really good taste in games.
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>>321322439
Wait till she starts aging
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>>321288782
When it's for charity (and they prove all proceeds go to said charity) then I don't care.
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>>321324027
Don't underestimate the modern young lady, and more importantly don't underestimate betas.

She:
>knows her looks will fade
>will snag a beta before they do

He:
>would probably still marry her even if she got ugly AND had kids
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