How would you feel if these characters were added to Smash Bros. /v/?
Some of them even have good reasons for why they could be added.
>>321269713
I'd be fine with anything there except for the two donut steels from HW
>>321269879
oh and the literally who from #FE
>>321269713
>Inkling
>Ridley
>Ice Climbers
>Captain Toad
>Dixie
>Elma
>K. Rool
yes
>everyone else
no
>>321269713
I'd prefer Cranky Kong to Dixie and Wrestler to Marshall but that's nitpicking.
>>321269713
This is literally my perfect vision of what I hoped SM4SH would be. But no, we had to have all them anime characters...
>Puts Ashley
>Forgets to puts Starfy
Dafuq anon?
>>321269713
I was going to say sure, but then I saw a Devil's Third rep.
>>321269953
Add Chibi Robo, Marshall, and Hades to that list and we're good
>>321269713
Only characters here I wouldn't like to see added are Birdo, Nabbit, the FExSMT girl, and the two HW characters.
>>321270165
why not?
>>321269713
Fucking terrible
Smash 5's roster is going to suck balls
>>321270268
>judging a game that won't come out for 7+ years based on a random picture some guy made
baka senpai desu
>Literally who
>Alright
>Alright now, in a few years literally who
>Not important
>Alright
>Alright
>Mite b cool
>Not important
>Not important
>Basically a lock
>Mite b cool if they ditched dork pit
>Mite b cool
>Would be cool but undeserving
>Probably going to happen
>Not important
>Alright
>Alright
>Not important
>Literally who
>Not important
>Literally who
>Alright
>Not important
>Not important
>Mite b cool
>Mite b cool
>Mite b cool joke character
>Alright
>Will probably come back if there isn't a handheld version
>Alright
>Not important
>Alright
>>321270268
lots of these characters represent some of Nintendo's newest/most popular franchises though.
Dillon has had 2 games on the 3DS
Mallo has had 4 games
Bunny is making Nintendo tons of dosh with Badge Arcade
Nabbit and Captain Toad are two new Mario characters
Marshal/Rhythm Heaven has a new game coming soon which will be the 4th game in its series.
The only thing missing is a style savvy character.
>>321269713
I probably just want Elma in so we can get that "Wir Fliegen" and "The key we've lost" for the music in XBX stages
Happy.
>>321270804
Unless we get new Advance Wars/Custom Robo/Golden Sun games charcters from those games will never appear outside of assist trophies.
>toad
>birdo
>pushmo guy
>kowashitai
>art academy guy
>lyn
>badge bunny
>paper mario
>nabbit
>wolf
why
>>321270804
Why do people want Viewtiful Joe so much? He's a literally who and compared to other Capcom characters he's nothing
Don't even get me started on Marina, waifufags
>>321270686
>Dillon has had 2 games on the 3DS
I'm pretty sure his series is done.
>Mallo has had 4 games
Mallo has a chance for Smash 5 if he keeps up like this.
>Bunny is making Nintendo tons of dosh with Badge Arcade
We'll see if this thing stays for long, but it will likely die down sometime before Smash 5 begins development.
>Nabbit and Captain Toad are two new Mario characters
Toad should and likely will happen in Smash 5, but Nabbit could suddenly die down sometime in the near future. Again, we'll see.
>Marshal/Rhythm Heaven has a new game coming soon which will be the 4th game in its series.
It's already out. I think that a Rhythm Heaven rep is still very likely for Smash 5 though.
>A Style Savvy character
It could happen.I wouldn't mind it.
>Other M Ridley
For what purpose?
r8, h8, negoti8
>>321271395
Why no on Saki?
honestly I forgot one of the most likey newcomers.
>>321271549
can someone cut out the blue marine as a .png for me?
>>321271528
He's way too abstract of a character. I couldn't imagine Sakurai doing it.Unless someone else directs Smash 5
>>321271789
>He's way too abstract of a character.
What does this mean?
>>321269713
>no K.Rool in image
OP is a fucking faggot. why am I not surprised?
Can they even put Elma in?
I thought Snake established that they can't use guns.
>>321271894
He's right there you fucking faggot.
>>321271894
you should get your eyes checked tomodachi
>>321271934
Bayonetta uses guns
>>321271894
Point at this blind fag and laugh.
The only right choice
>>321272876
When's Sukapon?
>>321269713
the check marked ones are the only really good additions in that otherwise padded picture op
>>321271395
Nailed it, to be honest.
>>321269713
> no Isaac
Fuck you, OP
>>321273141
>Birdo is a good addition
>Dixie, Ashley, Hades, Nabbit and Captain Toad aren't
Uhh no.
>>321269713
Hopefully the NX generation provides a good amount of fresh characters so any of these (except for Inkling, Toad and Ice Climbers) don't make it into the new Smash.
Really, all these make K.Rool sound reasonable.
>>321273141
explain your reasoning plz
>>321273141
>K.Rool instead of Dixie
>Porky
>Birdo
Otherwise your list is fine.
>>321273141
>no Sceptile
>but Krool and Waddle Dee are A OK
kek
r8 h8 deb8 appreci8 be irr8
If it's blacked out I don't know them
>>321273291
I find Elma and Dixie pretty reasonnable too
>>321269713
>All these autistic Character choices of literally who's.
>Paper Mario
Wow....And people are bitching about FE characters....They literally want ANOTHER Mario character, one that's LITERALLY Mario again.
>>321273505
Dixie only if you REALLY want to force a DK character for no reason by putting a Diddie clone.
I have no idea who Elma is.
>>321269713
>no Krystal
Shit list.
Green are characters that should be in
Red are characters that should never be in Smash
Everyone else is fair game but aren't as high on the priority list as the ones listed in green
Tried to be as unbiased as possible. Would personally want characters like Hades, Bandana Dee, Paper Mario and Baito over Ice Climbers and Chibi Robo. But they just aren't as high on the priority list.
>>321273505
Wait, Elma is the girl from Xenoblade, right? She only has a chance if it sells well, but there's no way she can replace Shulk.
>>321273726
>Ivan and Henry Fleming never in smash
wat?
>>321273607
I think a good deal of people rightfully consider things like Mario Karts and Mario RPGs separate from mainline Mario shit, and nothing but mainline Mario shit has any real representation.
Besides that, Paper Mario wouldn't be a clone or anything. It wouldn't make any sense for him to be.
The question is not if, but when...
>>321271823
Sin and Punishment isn't very well known in the west. It was a Japan Exclusive N64 game, that didn't get a western release until 2007.
You can argue that Lucas falls under the same category, but people in the west have been begging for Mother 3. And Mother 3 was hyped up with a N64 western release, even though it was canceled.
>>321274493
>Sin and Punishment isn't very well known in the west.
so he's guaranteed to be in
>>321269713
Get ready for super autism
Takumaru- Sure, new rep from a series that has had a lot of history, off the wall retros are alright
Ridley- If they can make him work in a not stupid manner, which doesn't seem to be very likely.
Project Steam person- If the IP goes anywhere
Ashley- Better choices from the series, people only really want her in for the porn. Jimmy T. Mona, 9-Volt and Kat+Ana would be better decisions.
Dillon- Sure
Dixie- A solid relevant choice for the DK series and a solid new rep. Diddy+Dixie tag team would be more fun though
Devil's Third Person- Too new, doesn't fit in all too well, maybe if that game ends up going anywhere but not a very good choice for a rep otherwise
Linkle- Far better Zelda reps, far better Hyrule Warrior reps. People would only want her in for the porn as well
Waluigi- An ok choice, a solid rep for the spin off Mario games.
Inkling- A solid new IP that has sold well. Would have fun mechanics with squid tranformations and ink. Solid choice
Hades- He would be pretty interesting, my main gripe is that he would be the 4th rep from a series with only 3 games, would be much easier to handle that fact if Dark Pit was out of the picture
Wonder Red- I feel Bayonetta better represents Platinum games as a whole. W101 didnt sell all too well, and the unite mechanics would likely be lost in transition
Porky- Machine would definitely make his moveset unique, but they would have to make it work without it being stupid
Captain Toad- Could build an amusing moveset off of indirect non-combat, since the character himself does nothing to really fight. I feel like the charm of this rep would be lost if they couldnt capture that.
Birdo- See Waluigi
Marshall- Another good rep to represent a good running nintendo franchise. Good potential
Mallow- See Marshall. I feel like he would be the better choice though.
Lana- Better choices for LoZ reps, would make for a good moveset if nothing else
>>321273708
>>321273607
You guys are fun like chuck e cheese
>>321269847
Why the hell are Snake, IC, Wolf, Ivysaur and Squirtle there? There were in Smash. They don't need to be grouped on those other losers.
>>321269713
>obscure Japanese katana man
No.
>Ridley
Yes
>Codename Steam guy
No
>Ashley
No
>Dillon
Yes, also include Shantae and Shovel Knight
>Dixie Kong
Absolutely
>Devil's Third guy
No
>What if zelda was a girl
Fuck no
>Waluigi
Fuck yes
>Squid girl
No
>Hades
Bring him in as an announcer or commentator on KI stages
>Wonder Red
Yes
>Porky
Already a boss
>Captain Toad
Oh fuck yeah
>Birdo
No
>Rhythm Heaven guys
>no
>Pushmo
no
>Lana
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>literally who
No
>Bandana Dee
yes yes yes
>Art Academy old man
Assist trophy
>Chi Robo
Yes
>Lyn
No
>Sceptile
No
>Sin & Punishment character
Assist trophy
>brand new Xenoblade X character
Fuck no
>some random shitty pink bunny
No
>Paper Mario
Yes
>Ice Climbers
pls samuari
>King K. Rool
Why isn't he in already...
>annoying fucker from NSMB
already a stage hazard
>Wolf
Never should have been in, never should come back unless with a totally unique moveset
>>321269879
This. Keep those two away from Smash, Let alone Zelda.
>>321269713
>>321274619
???-I admittedly also have no idea who this is, no room to speak on him either
Chibi-Robo- A nice rep from a long running series which has even gotten a recent installment so relevant as well.
Lyn- Probably one of the best choices they could choose if they really wanted to shove in yet another Fire Emblem rep. She should have been playable in Brawl or on release. Now it is getting to be a bit much.
Sceptile- Not real good reason to add him other than "We have a water and a fire starter now we need a grass one!"
Saki- I dont know anything about this character or what they can do
???-
???-See above
Paper Mario- Cool, but a third Mario gets to be a bit questionable. Id love to see Mario actually use his hammer and the Mario RPGs to get a little love though.
Ice Climbers- After being cut from this installment for not being able to function on the 3ds if they manage to make them function-able they damn well better make them free.
K. Rool- As much as I love the big croc I feel like Dixie is more relevant and better to represent the series as a whole. Maybe if he becomes the villain again in the next DK game.
Nabbit- Functions better as a stage hazzard
Wolf- Should have definitely been in before Roy and Lucas as far as relevancy goes. Was fine in Brawl, would be fine in Smash 4
>>321274619
>people only really want her in for the porn
I don't think that's really fair, you could say that about any character. She has a really cool design and we could use some more magic users. They could even incorporate her little devil buddy.
>>321274978
Zelda is garbage lately and those characters would improve it.
>>321274958
>>Ridley
>Yes
Kek
>also include Shantae and Shovel Knight
Kek
>>Waluigi
>Fuck yes
Kek
>>Bandana Dee
>yes yes yes
Kek
Overall kek/10
These would be my picks, though I know some of em are already dead right now and will only be more dead by Smash 5.
As for OP, I don't really like Nabbit, Birdo, or Ashley. They seem way too minor at the moment.
>>321275006
>we could use some more magic users
Yeah.
Like Ganondorf or something.
Come on Nintendo.
>>321269713
It won't happen
the world isn't fair
>>321275006
Ashley in particular attracts a notorious group. And as much as magic would be cool, it would not really do a good job at representing the WarioWare series.
>>321275192
hello
>>321269713
Sakurai is gonna add the Devils Third guy as a troll pick.
>>321275118
>too minor
>wants Andy, Excitebiker and Ray 01
>>321274986
You skipped Waddle Dee and the Art Academy dude.
Also the characters you were unsure about were Tsubasa from #FE the SMTxFE weird crossover not crossover thing. Elma from Xenoblade Chronicles X and Baito from Nintendo Badge Arcade.
>>321269713
can we just replace Zelda with her HW incarnation instead of the OCs
>>321269713
remake Ganon
give old Ganon's moveset to Hades
>>321275254
Art Academy dude was ???. I forgot Banana Dee because of the cutoff I feel like most of what he can bring to the table is his weapon as opposed to the character himself though.
>>321275236
I mean minor as in they're minor characters in their own franchises. Those characters you listed are all protagonists in their games, at least.
I mean, I know they're dead, I just think they would be fun. Excitebiker would make a lot of sense as the "out of the left field retro character" choice, like Duck Hunt was.
THEYD ALL BE SHIT!
>>321275327
That's garbage. Why does Hades need to get fucked in the process?
If you need to dump the existing Ganondorf moveset on anyone, the agreed upon repository is Black Shadow.
>>321271395
I agree with all of this cept I would swap Dillon and Porky. Who the fuck is that anime staff chick above that bunny guy.
>>321275217
I know, but still. That's not really fair to the people that like the character that aren't apart of that group. Also I would say she'd represent Wario Ware just fine. She's probably one of the first characters people think about when they think about that series because her design is really iconic. Nintendo also seems to have a fondness for her seeing as how She's an assist trophy, Mii Fighter and a costume in Mario Maker.
>>321269942
Tsubasa? She is cute! CUTE!
>>321269713
>Motherfuckin Ridley
>Inkling
>Wonder Red
>K. Rool
>Dixie
I'd seriously be fuckinghappiest I've ever been regarding Smash. That's why it won't ever happen.
>>321275604
Tsubasa. I imagine if she was a character her gimmick would be a partnership with Mirage Caeda
>>321275798
I had to look up what game she was from. Eh I'll pass on her too.
Does /v/ actually want Ridley or at least wouldn't mind him in? I get people are tired of the discussion so it makes a lot of distaste over the subject, but people who want him in are just tired of the ordeal in general too. I'm a bit surprised to see so many being indifferent or outright happy at the thought of Ridley being in ever.
I dunno, just always seems like you still can't mention him without it setting someone off.
>>321271395
Who's thatliteral whonext to Saki?
>>321276058
I think the majority of people would be at least okay with his addition, if not pleased. I think the ones that are constantly attacking him just do it because they want to see sparks fly and Ridleyfags are an easy group to rile up.
>>321275043
Not even. Hyrule Warriors was interesting, but there's a time and a place for everything. Let KT do their waifushit in their own series and keep Zelda as it is.
>>321276141
>easy to rile up
We really are. It's why I just usually avoid the subject anymore.
>Ashley
Geez, she's already a AT, has a Mii outfit, has a 3DS theme and has a SMM costume while everybody else from the WarioWare cast gets zilch. Heck, Wario doesn't even have a 3DS theme of his own.
Give the spotlight to someone else, she's already got enough attention as it is. Jimmy T, Mona, anyone else.
>there are people ITT that don't recognize #FE or XCX characters
What the fuck? There are like 5 games on Wii U and you don't even know them?
Are all smashfags like this? How can you go on /v/ and not see them every day?
>>321276187
>keep Zelda as it is
This is literally the LAST thing Zelda needs.
>>321276058
I think it'd go over well to be honest. I find a lot of the haters of the character are just trying to piss people off more so then win a debate , etc . At this point it's whatever now , 15 years and same old type of selection when it comes to a roster.
>>321276219
Mona is more likely than anyone else.
>>321269713
Nintendo is hopefully working on a musou game with all these characters.
>>321276227
So true. At the very least how haven't some of you seen pictures of Elma or Lin posted as thread openers. XCX is fuckin great as far as Wii U goes.
>>321276264
Lemme guess, you want Zelda to follow HW and focus purely on action instead of exploration and secrets. I knew with all the praise HW got that we were going to get some people who want to drive Zelda in that direction. Tri Force Heroes is another example of why Zelda U needs to be released, shitty spin-offs being made in a few months to tide Zelda fans over will gradually sully the series. Even moreso if Zelda U turns out to be a giant flop.
>>321276264
Zelda's fine as long as they stay away from Tinkshit.
I honestly wouldn't mind more characters in Smash, even clones.
>>321276227
I recognize XCX but come on, #FE hasn't even come out yet. Not to mention the characters in it don't seem very unique in appearance.
>>321276219
The Volt family got a stage
>>321276486
I'm pissed that the last game to have hidden side weapons that weren't required to beat the game was Link to the Past with the magic wand and invisible cape. Maybe Links Awakening with the Boomerang. Everything since has been here's your gear, go do thing, finish game. Fuck.
>>321276623
??????????????????????
>>321276623
After all the KOWASHITAI threads with Tsubasa in the OP you can't not recognize her.
Hell, you just have to have watched the E3 Direct to know her.
>>321269713
It's funny, I don't particularly want any of these characters, but literally every single one would have been a better inclusion than Corrin.
Maybe not the Jew Rabbit but he comes fucking close.
They should make a B-list smash bros game with these guys in it.
>>321276823
So, Smash For?
>>321276765
You really think the guy from Devils Third would have been better?
Never thought about having Elma for Smash. She could be pretty fun, I'd much rather have her than the blank slate in X.
>>321276909
There are a lot of problems with this joke. Try something better next time.
>Definitely in, if Smash 5 happens
Inkling
Ice Climbers
>High probability, depending on if their series is popular around the time Smash 5 comes out
Dixie Kong
Linkle
Wolf
Elma or Lynn from X
>High probability if Sakurai wants more old characters
Mike Jones (Star Tropics)
Takamaru
Balloon Fight(er, guy?)
Mach Rider
Everything else is a pipe dream/pure speculation. Waluigi would make sense if he had any actual appearances outside of sports and party games. Unless the W101 gets a sequel on the NX, Wonder Red has no chance. Mother is not getting another rep, since it's not getting another game and isn't popular/relevant enough. Kid Icarus MIGHT get another character if it's still relevant by then.
Then there's shit like Sceptile, who missed its chance of getting in, the dude from Codename STEAM, or the dude from Devil's Third. Shit ain't happening.
>>321276984
I wasn't joking.
Actually, I was being generous.
>>321276486
Nope.
I want a game like the NES Zelda games that actually offers some challenge for once, leaves exploring to you instead of taking you on a guided tour of the world, isn't largely about easy puzzles and is less about items, and doesn't have much of a focus on some boring linear narrative complete with an overly long intro and shitloads of cutscenes.
>>321277043
Don't you mean genuine?
>>321276717
(Not the same anon.)
DESU I see more regular Fire Emblem threads here than that crossover game.
XCX has been hype for months since Japan got it and has had major threads every day here. I had no idea who the fuck that chick was till some Anon a few mins ago just told me and I've kept up with all the E3 and Direct stuff.
>>321277043
Is English your first language?
I get what you're trying to say about Smash 4 being full of shitty characters, but the joke is such a stretch, and it's not even cleverly worded.
And now you're trying to be witty, but let's face it, the game's roster is clearly not Nintendo's B-team, and you didn't address anything I said in my post. None of those characters are in Smash 4 anyways, so your unfortunately bad joke just falls flat.
Please consider the environment and your wording next time, it will help a lot to make some popular and funny wordplay.
>>321277116
That's exactly what I want from Zelda U. Puzzles are fine, but Skyward Sword is my least favorite Zelda title for that reason alone.
>>321277201
No, generous. Smash For may as well be a shovelware title. I don't even have 20 hours in it since last year when I bought it.
>>321277232
Once again, I wasn't joking. Smash For is at best, a B-list game.
>>321269713
>Takamaru
Definitely yes, his game is really good and I want a revival of it so bad, he's the only EAD alumni of '86 not to go anywhere- to be quite honest that's a shame since his game plays way better than original KI or original Metroid.
>Ridley
I don't personally want him and I think the size complaints are entirely valid. That being said I think he's really the only other Metroid rep you could put in so if Sak can do it right I'd approve.
>Henry
Didn't play his game, might at some point. I'd love the aesthetic he'd bring to the table but a big thing about that is that it bombed hard. if it can drum up a sequel somehow I can see him getting representation
>Ashley
Literally only popular because of goth fetishists and lolicons. Warioware does not need another representative and if it were anyone else- Jimmy T or Mona, not her.
>Dillon
Cool design but I think he's kind of fated to be a side character. Plus his whole thing is rolling so I dunno how you'd make him different from Sonic, who's already pretty homogenized.
>Dixie
Not an exciting pick, but she deserves it. She'd be an interesting semi-clone of Diddy, and that's all she really needs to be.
>Devil's Third
Know nothing, would be cool, but no
>Linkle
NOPE
>Waluigi
NOPE
>Inkling
Entirely yes, the moveset possibilitie are vast. A really obvious pick
>Hades
I'd personally love him but I feel like a lot would be lost in translation because he wasn't humorous in the original Japanese. His design is a little bit too intricate too maybe but eh it'd be a new gen.
>Wonder Red
GREAT moveset potential, fun flare, I really want it. I think his chances entirely bank on the possibility of if W101 ever gets a sequel, like Codename STEAM.
>Porky
Cool potential but I think Mother has a comfy amount
>Captain Toad
Not a thrilling choice but I see really interesting mechanics with him if they stay true to his mechanic of not being able to jump. A good way to get a toad character into the game too.
つづく。。。
>>321277317
I was talking about the roster, specifically stating that these lesser known characters should get their own game.
You should learn a thing or two about communication before posting here on 4chan. It would do a lot to enrich your time spent here.
>>321277317
Then you're a legit faggot and should off yourself.
Tell me what's an A-List game by your standards?
>>321277317
Whatever shitter
>>321276717
I saw the directs and her design just did not stick out to me in any significant way, not enough to recognize her and associate her with that game at least.
Maybe it's just because nothing about it appeals to me but I don't think that means I know nothing about Nintendo.
>>321277425
I'm sorry it pains you that people don't like Smash For and don't regard it as GOTY. And I'm sorry if you were trying to make a joke about those characters being worthy of a lower budget Smash title and I didn't catch on to it. Maybe you should learn about communication, or learn how to make better jokes.
>>321277475
>I don't have an argument!
>>321277447
Something that's fun and gives me reason to play it gradually over a set period of time. Even a C-list title can keep my attention if I like the content enough. Smash For, with all of its 'jam-packed' content, couldn't keep my interest and the upcoming DLC still doesn't interest me. I'm sorry if I don't see your precious game in the same light as you do. Telling people to kill themselves over not liking a game is childish, but then again, look where I'm at.
>>321269713
cool YES no okay okay no no no okay yes yes yes yes cool no cool cool no no NO no yes no no okay okay yes no okay yes no whyishenotback
Don't respond to him
>>321277341
continued!
>Birdo
she's not that relevant?
>Marshall
I want a RH character but I like the idea of the Choru Kids more, that could be rhythm related.
>Mallo
I think he'd be a cool addition and I kind of want a sumo fighter because it'd be funny, but I think he's in the same camp as Dillon.
>Lana
Nope
>KOWASHITAI
nah
>Bandanna Dee
I'm not denying he could be interesting, but it feels kind of flat.
>art academy guy
know nothing, no opinion.
>Chibi Robo
God I'd want him in, but like so many others I like his games don't bring in the sales- so that's a big detriment. His moveset potential is great
>Lynn
The Ashley of FE. Everyone was introduced to her through brawl and now they want her for waifu reasons. No.
>Sceptile
Grass starters are my favorite but I don't really see Sceptile being relevant by the time Smash 5 comes out. To be honest I'd want Ivysaur more
>Saki
God yes, yes fucking please. It's not gonna happen though
>Elma
Don't know anything about her but she'd be interesting I'd bet
>Baito
No idea how this character would work but fuck it, it'd be funny. Put him in.
>Paper Mario
A great representation of Mario's RPG adventures in addition to having a fighter being made of paper- so unlike game and watch he can bend and fold and stuff for his animations. I approve.
>Ice Climbers
Bring our babies home (bring Snake and the pokemon trainer pokemon too)
>K. Rool
If he's relevant by the time whenever Retro does another DK game, I'm all for it
>Nabbit
Unless he gets a more prominent role, I wouldn't say he's likely
>Wolf
Yeah sure, he's an interesting character to bring back. Should've been brought back instead of Roy considering how much Marth is in this game currently.
Those be me opinions. Yell at em all you want
>>321277814
It doesn't pain me at all, actually. It just seems really bizarre that you would post something so unconstructive to a post of mine. I would also like to add that repeating what I have said back at me does not make you clever or funny, but with the severe lack of communicative ability you have displayed in past posts, I am increasingly unsurprised. I will say this as clearly as possible: It wasn't a joke. I was simply commenting that the characters who aren't well known enough to get into the main game should have their own B-level game. A game full of B-level Nintendo stars, instead of Mario, Link, and so forth. I hope you understand now, although I will not be surprised (but rather disappointed) if you still are struggling to comprehend my post.
Anyways I need to go, my very attractive wife is calling me, and it takes me a while to move through my very large house. Hope you have a nice Christmas Eve.
>>321278067
Just for typing this all out:
(You)
>>321269713
Captain Toad, Bandanna Dee, K Rool, Ridley, Paper Mario Ashley, Waluigi, Linkle, Dixie Kong, Viridi and Takamaru will be the favorite for smash 5. We will obviously get a new pokemon a FE charactere from next gen. I will like smash 5 new character better than smash 4.
>>321277814
>>321277814
You didn't name any game you consider A-list. Good job, shitposter.
Oh and, no one calls it Smash For.
Hey mods, just an FYI because I know you're browsing this thread, if you ban people and put a big red "USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST" next to their names, it does a better job than stealth banning.
You can even use it on me if you're feeling sassy.
>>321269713
the ones with gray lines would probably work better as ATs
>>321278856
>Paper Mario
>Inkling
>Marshal
>Dixie
>Would work better as AT
>Waluigi
>Playable
My dude... What is your problem?
>>321279134
Pretty much exactly what I was going to say about it.
There.
>>321279134
theres enough mario characters
boring
what would he bring to the table that sonic doesnt
would rather have someone else as a dk rep, doesnt have to be k rool
>>321279951
>theres enough mario characters
But you want Waluigi
>boring
How?
>what would he bring to the table that sonic doesn't
I really don't understand how you're drawing similarities between a Rhythm Heaven character and Sonic
>would rather have someone else as a dk rep
fair enough
>>321280213
oh i thought marshall was the armadillo guy
anyway theres already mario, yellow, and dr mario
>>321280418
But you want Waluigi.
>>321280737
Ignore him
Memeluigi fanboys are just dumb memespouters
>>321269713
75% of the current characters don't fit let alone this list.
This is such a fucked up execution of a game.
>>321283086
how do you mean?
>>321283201
Think about the amount of characters in the game as it stands. How many of them belong in a fighting game?
I mean Princess, Jigglypuff (any Pokemon), Ness, Villager, WII-FIT Trainer, Pacman don't fit with-in the archtype of the game. Not to mention the whole Nintendo character universe are not that inspiring, most of all Mario.
I think I may have grown out of Nintendo.
>>321283747
Are you retarded? The whole concept of smash is putting characters that aren't from fighting games in a fighting game.
I would rather the bunny be a themed shopkeeper of the trophy store stuff. There's plenty of ways to add characters in non playable roles which they don't do because of Sakurai's random blob menus
>>321283842
and the point of smash Bros is a money making scheme from Nintendo. Let's put all of the characters we own in one game, a game that is easy and cheap to produce, and the real-tards will buy it.
Regardless it is an individualistic point of view anyway your dork, I think my way, you obviously think a different way (which is a right of yours), how am I retarded?
>>321284489
>game that is easy and cheap to produce
Sakurai works day and night with no breaks every time he works on Smash. Man only slept 3 hours a day when he made Melee. You can't say this shit is easy.
>>321284489
>smash Bros is a money making scheme
What game isn't a money making scheme?
>>321284863
sakurai pls
>>321271395
no baito no buyo
>>321284946
>What game isn't a money making scheme?
The concept of Nintendo putting all of their patented characters is more of a scheme then most based on principal more so. Come on. I didn't say that no other game apart from Smash Bros is did I.
>>321284863
>Sakurai works day and night with no breaks every time he works on Smash. Man only slept 3 hours a day when he made Melee. You can't say this shit is easy.
I have no idea who and how long they worked on the game (and do you really). While I respect and stand in awe of every single thing a Dev does, doesn't mean I respect or accept the outcome.
>>321285458
>While I respect and stand in awe of every single thing a Dev does, doesn't mean I respect or accept the outcome.
dAMN IT WROTE THAT WRONG. The second respect should not be there.
>>321285458
>The concept of Nintendo putting all of their patented characters is more
Why? What's the difference? People buy what the like. How is it any different from any other game?
And if you don't even know who's making the game you really are in no position to judge it tbqhwu
>>321285578
There is a difference to me. Personally I think that the whole Nintendo character universe is stale and old. How long do we have to put up with Mario. I have no problem with people buying what they like and that is all good, I just don't understand it. But I also think that it is Nintendo pushing these games and characters down our throats. Did you buy or have anything to do with the Sony game, PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale. It had the same arch-type style characters in a very similar game, yet everyone fawns over Smash. Was it the game? Was it the characters, that said.
Is Mario or Kirby that good of a characters. The last Mario game I fully enjoyed was Super Mario World (SNES) everything after was just a fat plumber, (decent game regardless).
Regardless, it seems I am in a minority of one.
>>321286508
If anything Nintendo is offering the most unique worlds and characters in gaming today...
>>321286508
>Did you buy or have anything to do with the Sony game, PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale. It had the same arch-type style characters in a very similar game, yet everyone fawns over Smash. Was it the game? Was it the characters, that said.
I think you answered your own question. The Nintendo crossover is a huge part of Smash but the fan base wouldn't be as crazy as it is today if it wasn't for the gameplay. You don't exactly see people losing their minds over Nintendo Land.
>>321271395
>Ridley
>Ashley
Other than that you hit the nail on the head
>>321286685
I didn't say it wasn't unique. Nintendo have been and will be apart of the leading edge of console gaming for a little while yet every concept they design and implement is boring and uninspiring, to me (one way or another).
>>321287078
I know i answered my own question there, it was meant to be a statement rather then a question (my drunken fault), still I should've of said that I hold All stars in the same tier as Smash. It is throwing all eggs in one basket hoping for something good. I loved some of the characters in Smash, but after that game their characters seem a little bit less awesome to me. The whole premise seems a bit blah.
Why a fighting/combat game. Why not a full on 3-D platform or simple RPG game? Somethng that makes a whole lot more amount of sense. If nintendo made a Kingdom Hearts like type of game I would play the shit out of that game, but Smash is boring as.
>>321272703
I think it's because Snake uses REAL guns.
Bayonetta has magic guns. Samus/fox/falco all have Lazer guns
>>321287698
>Somethng that makes a whole lot more amount of sense.
How do those make more sense than "characters from videogame universes cross over to fight"
>>321287698
Smash does make sense though. It's the reason why we have characters like Ryu, Mega Man and Bayonetta and they all feel like they do in their own games. A lot of the characters in Smash come from 2D action games or just games about fighting in general. You can say it doesn't match the characters but a 3D platformer still wouldn't fit Captain Falcon or Link. And an RPG would fit even less.
5 gours later, and I have finally finished the full roster.
R8 & H8
>>321288769
It's shit
>>321288769
The only one that looks out of place is the code name steam guy.
>>321289281
it's true. there aren't any HQ 3D renders of him, so its the best I can do.
I will accept replacing him with another acceptable character though.
>>321288769
Where to start
>Birdo
>Waluigi
>Nabbit
>Doc
>Dixie
>Bandanna Dee
>Lana
>Linkle
>Saki
>Keeping the FE clones
>Tsubasa
>Porky
>the STEAM guy
>Keeping Dark Pit
>Art Academy Guy
>Baito
>the Devil's Third guy
Come the fuck on. You get plus for no ridley or Daisy but still, it's pretty shit.
>>321289691
There's really no reason to get rid of Dark Pit, Doc or the FE clones
>>321289691
why're you imposing restrictions on yourself by getting rid of the FE characters and Dark Pit?
Also Ridley is there.
>>321289871
>>321289905
They have no resason not to be alt skins and/or custom moves
>>321269713
>Ashley
I'd be absolutely okay with more porn of her
>Inkling
Easily a hit or miss
>Porky/Pokey
He'd be cool
>Bandana Dee
He's okay I guess
>Baito
That would be funny, but he just became a thing recently
>Ice Climbers
They would be nice.
>Wolf
Sure
Everyone else is trash or a literal who
>>321289967
there is no reason for them not to be either? We could put Alph and the Koopalings on the roster just because and it wouldn't affect anything.
So once again, why are you imposing imaginary restrictions on yourself?
>>321290083
Why not put yellow Mario, blue Mario, green Mario, American Mario etc in their own slots as well?
>>321289967
In the case of Dark Pit and Lucina, they have differing personalities than their base. Seeing Dark Pit doing Pit's "VICTORY" would be weird.
And for Doctor Mario, Sakurai made him a clone to appease fans of him in Melee. Being a slower and more hard hitting Mario, can't really solve that with customs.
>>321269713
>Elma is not in Smash instead we get Corrin
how, it was a no brainer
>>321290171
why not?
>>321290331
Cos it would be like you.retarded
>>321290171
>>321290331
The thing is Smash fan believe in these arbitrary "slots" as if they're something physical or a rule that must be abided to, when easily you can just make up whatever you feel like.
Break free of the slots.
>>321290420
not that anon, but even if slots aren't a thing making Lucina, Dark Pit and Dr. Mario took probably more time than making an entirely new character we could have gotten instead if they didn't spend their time programming shitty clones instead.
Though Dr. Mario is more acceptable than the other two
>>321290721
>Though Dr. Mario is more acceptable than the other two
How so?
>>321290802
He at least has a different special and is different from Mario in his strength and speed.
>>321290953
But that means he has more work put into him than the other two. Making him more of a liability.
>>321290020
>I'd be absolutely okay with more porn of her
Literally, half of the reason people want her in is for fan artists to go berserk on doing exclusive child porn of her whilethe other half wants a magic user and half of that half barely even gives a shit about WarioWare as a whole and wouldn't mind the series dying if it meant her and only her being the sole remnant left from it. Any female character that gets the chance to join the Smash cast automatically gets Rule 34 and Ashley wouldn't be any exception. And considering she's a little girl...
Yeah, I don't think there's any need to say more. It's basically impossible for her to escape from the reality of pedophiles wanting to stroke their dick to her sight. I already know she has fan art of such to a certain extent, but her inclusion on Smash would significantly increase her child porn fodder and that one kind of fan art where she's literally just standing there looking cute and mean.
>>321291657
So what?
>>321269713
>How would you feel if these characters were added to Smash Bros. /v/?
But Ice Climbers and Wolf are already added in smash bros?
>>321291790
I've always been a fan of the phrase "to each their own" although I obviously don't approve pedophilia, but I'm just not so sure if Nintendo wants one of their characters to become target of child porn and every time someone just wants to search for anything Ashley related, they find themselves head on with child porn of her. That doesn't sound all that nice for them, does it? Then again, their three main Nintendo girls already have a enormous pile of porn, but at least they're adult women age wise.
>>321269713
>taking the time to make this shit
>>321291657
You can't escape it. However it goes both ways. People wanting Ashley in Smash for the porn want her for the wrong reason. And people who don't want her in Smash to spite the people who want the porn don't want her for the wrong reason.
Personally she's my favorite character from WarioWare followed by 9-Volt. I've always loved Magic, so shit like sorcerers, wizards and witches are right up my alley. And I also really like her design.
>>321289691
You don't want Waluigi who is a character that more personality that almost all the wanted characters and the characters already in the games and you fucking want the blandest characters ever.
>>321269713
they are all meme characters
>>321270804
>making ness/lucas and fox/falco one slot
They both play completely different from their base character.
>Tak
Eh why not?
>Rodney
Never ever
>Codename Steam guy
No. Even mentioning him as a trophy would be the furthest he'd get
>Ashley
why not but probably won't make it
>Dillon
would be neat
>Dixie
sure
>Who the fuck is that?
Who the fuck is that?
>Girl Linkle
probably not but if she's fun, eh
>WAH
Why not at this point?
>Squid Kid
Hell yes
>Hades
bretty cool
>Wonder Bread
eh
>Porky pig
nah
>Captain Ted
a play style about not jumping, could be hilarious
>Tumblr yoshi
Never ever
>No
>No
>Lanal
nah but whatevs
>Kohwashitai
no but I would not be surprised she makes it
>Banana Dee
eh why not?
>Da Vinci
what?
>Chibi Rob
sure
>Lyn
Why wasn't she in by now?
>Sceptile
neat but indifferent
>Saki
Eh alright
>Elma
new shulk/10
>Jew Bunny
you know, I didn't even consider him but if he has money based attacks, I'd laugh my fucking ass off
>Paper Mario
don't make him a clone and get rid of Dr. Mario and I'm sold
>IC
shouldn't have been cut because of 3DS so why not?
>K Rool
sure if they decide to include him
>Thief rabbit
I like Jew bunny better
>Welf
shouldn't have been cut either
>>321269847
Because people were wanting them back. Lucas, Mewtwo and Roy were also in that picture as well.
>>321296669
Oops, this was meant for >>321274886
I'd be fine with it, except for Ridley and K.Rool.
Not that I have something against them, but because of the fucking autists who wants them in so bad that I became disgusted with the idea.
And the reason is simple: Nobody actually gives that much of a shit about K.Rool and Ridley, not even the people who wants them in. It's all about a fucking gimmick of feeling like you're so unique and different for wanting the underdog in, the character that nobody wants in.
Because sure, Ridley is a cool villain, I really like him a lot as a Metroid nemesis and K.Rool, while I don't particularly like him, well each time he's been a villain, Rare innovated on his concept and it's good. It really isn't about the characters, really, it's about the fucking gimmicks surrounding the literal obsession for wanting them in.
The same as Krystal, nobody can bullshit me that it isn't some kind of furfaggotry obsession that so many people want her in when she's quite litterally the least interesting Starfox character.
>>321269713
>Dixie
>ICs
>Wolf
>Birdo
>Inkling
Maybe 4 or 5 of these characters have an actual chance. The rest are bottom of the barrel choices.
>Still believing Ridley can get in
Give it up, you're delusional.
Smash is dead after this. Sakurai burned out just about all the interesting character choices he had on this one.
>>321298039
>Interesting character choices
Nigger all of OP's choices could be intwresting you're just not creative enough apparently.
Smhtbqh
>>321298474
Nah they're all dumb. Some are even almost non-characters. Bandana Dee? Captain Toad? Fucking Rhythm Heaven, Jew Bunny, little fat sumo thing? Why would you ever want to play as generic enemies, NPCs or characters that look like they were drawn up 5 minutes before their game released?
>>321269713
>putting in Lyn but not Isaac who would have much more than just a sword to bring to the table
It's shit.
>>321269953
FUCK YOU I HOPE YOU FUCKING DIE
>>321270676
>Ashley
>not important
Your mom is not important faggot
>>321271395
Perfect
>>321269713
>Takamaru
Awesome
>Ridley
Awesome (but only classic Ridley, no MOM shit)
>idk
>Ashley
would rather Mona or Captain Syrup
>Dillon
no opinion
>Dixie
Awesome
>idk
>Linkle
Assist Trophy tier, better more important Zelda characters
>Waluigi
debatable
>Inkling
Awesome
>Hades
replace Dark Pit and Awesome
>Wonder Red
Awesome
>Porky
Awesome
>Captain Toad
no, enough Mario characters
>Birdo
as a Yoshi alt maybe, otherwise AT tier
>Marshal
meh, AT tier
>idk
>Lana
AT tier
>idk
>Waddle Dee
nah
>idk
>Chibi Robo
AT tier
>Lyn
Awesome replace Lucina
>Sceptile
idk, I like Sceptile, but might be too many Pokemon, cut Jigglypuff then yes
>Saki
Awesome
>idk
>idk
>Paper Mario
Awesome replace Dr. Mario
>Ice Climber(s)
Awesome
>King K. Rool
Awesome
>Nabbit
AT tier
>Wolf
Awesome
>>321270804
>Peace Walker Snake
MGS1/Sons of Liberty Snake or bust
>>321302797
now just add
Isaac
Mike Jones
Skull Kid
(Pig) Ganon
Hector
Captain Syrup
Simon Belmont
Banjo and Kazooie
and it would be great
>nobody has suggested Vaati as a new Delda rep yet
>>321269713
>no chrom
dropped
>>321271395
7/10, good list but
>no Saki
>puts in ANOTHER Mario/Pokemon character
>>321302997
>Issac
Golden Sun is a dead franchise and will never see the light of day again so NEVER EVER
Paper Mario would be great, as part of the Paper Mario universe instead of just Mario.
I think him and Fawful would be great reps for Mario spin-offs, not to mention Fawful would another much-needed villain. Both have a lot of creative potential.
Ridley just because I'm dying for another Metroid rep. I'd settle for a non-clone Dark Samus too.
I want Ice Climbers back, and Wolf, but only if they give him original specials and a new FS.
I think Inkling is a sure thing for Smash 5
I think Chibi Robo would also be a nice addition. His new game gives him more to work with in terms of moveset.
Not that this all matters. The next Smash will focus more on big hitting 3rd parties and more Fire Emblem characters...
>>321269713
Lets play, Red Light, Green Light
>>321303806
Ice Climbers
>>321304374
what a terrible result
>>321304445
The Golden Sun series has nothing on the classic NES games, try again
>>321304374
>Shitty robo
>Literally who, the pokemon
>Kingcuckrool
HAHAHAHA
>"Project" S.T.E.A.M "Guy"
>everyone saying no, nope, literally who?
>it was actually a good game
>>321269713
>Takamura
Cool
>Waluigi
Finally
>Pusho dude
A little obscure, but there are already obscure character so why not
>Guy from Sin & Punishment
Sure, he seems cool from his assist trophy
>Ridley
Overdue
>Inkling
Honestly surprised this hasn't already happened and he/she/it wasn't the shill character
>Cia
Fuck no
>Shitskin animu
I assume she's from Xenoblade X, so sure
>Guy from Codename STEAM
Wasn't really a rousing success, but he seems like he could have cool steampunk gunner moveset
>Hades
Sure
>animu
Who?
>Baito
I dunno if I would call a freemium wallpaper gambling game popular enough. /v/ likes it enough I guess
>Ashley
Sure. I would love to see more Magic-wielder like Robin.
>Wonder Red
Absolutely
>Bandana Dee
As long as he primarily uses his spear
>Paper Mario
As long as he isn't a clone of Mario
>Aramadillo Cowboy
Eh, why not. I never played his game, though. As long as he isn't too much of a Sonic Clone
>Porky
Maybe make the Mech a bit smaller so he isn't boss-character size
>Dude from Art Academy
Hello no
>Ice Climbers
Never mained them but they would be a welcome return. There didn't even need to be a 3DS version at all.
>Dixie Kong
Don't know how she wouldn't be a Diddy Clone, so maybe not
>Captain Toad
That would actually be kind of interesting. His backpack would probably make him a fast faller yet he would be the size of a light character
>Chibi-Robo
Well his movest pretty much has to be whip-based
>K.Rool
Not opposed to him but not crazy about him
>Devil's Third edgelord
Piss off
>Birdo
Haha
>Lyn
Okay now you can really fuck off
>Nabbit
No
>Linkle
Absolutely. Zelda needs some new blood in Smash and I think her whole crossbow gimmick is pretty neat
>Rhythm Heaven minions
Sure, a music-based character would be cool and maybe they could be a 3-in-1 so long as they are balanced
>Sceptile
Axe Lucario and I'll allow it
>Wold
Again, not opposed but not crazy about him either
Overall, pretty decent list.
>>321304543
yeh except 3 games in its series compared to 1
also
>classic NES game
please... no one would know what that game was if Ice Climbers werent added into Smash
>>321304276
Whoops
Forgot pic
>literally who
>oh God please yes
>nope
>literally who
>literally who
>fuck DKC
>literally who
>maybe some day
>would be annoying
>kinda surprised this didn't get in
>literally who
>NEVER EVER
>"too big"
>fuck getting another Mario character
>fuck getting another Mario character
>literally who
>literally who
>only for the porn
>literally who
>yes please
>literally who
>NEVER EVER
>yes, but only because I'm a waifu-fag
>literally who
>meh, no thanks
>literally who
>literally who
>fuck getting another Mario character
>meh, they were okay, never my mains
>FUCK DKC
>literally who
>yes, please
>>321269713
Does the guy from Art Academy even have a name? I've never seen anyone talk about him before
Fixed
>>321305115
Vincent
>>321304989
You're a good man.
>>321305165
Thanks pham
>>321302997
I want Hector or Ephraim too, but that's just not going to happen.
>>321305347
They would fuck them up with a shitty VA or something desu best to just leave them be and accept FE's constantly rotating casts and focus shift to newer games
>>321304989
Oh and no to linkle and sceptl
yes to marshal and wolf
>>321269713
>He'd be neat and he could also be the "retro" rep for 5mash like Little Mac was to Sm4sh
>eh
>Don't think there'd be enough to work with for a moveset
>mite b cool
>I've never actually played Dillon's Rolling Western so I can't speak
>I could probably see some moves involving her hair
>kek
>Crossbows may be neat, but we already have two Links as is.
>>>another mario character
>Yes please
>It's been a while since I've played KIU so I can't really imagine what his moveset would be, but hey if Sakurai can make it happen more power to him
>YES PLEASE
>Eh
>How would it work?
>>>>>>>birdo
>I could see something neat where he gets an additional power up to their attacks if they time the button presses with the music playing in the background, but that would be more fitting as a stage mechanic rather than a character mechanic
>Who?
>Eh, better than Linkle I guess
>Can't say I'd be super opposed to it
>Can't imagine a moveset
>Bizarre choice, but after WFT anything is possible. Would probably be more likely to pop up as a trophy instead.
>Sure
>neat
>>>>another Pokemon
>YES PLEASE
>Would be down for it
>Can't see it happening. Expect a trophy at most, maybe an assist trophy like Isabelle if he's lucky
>If we really need another Mario character that badly, this would be the best choice
>if 5mash doesn't go portable again or they manage to make the haldheld powerful enough to run them, they're a shoe-in
>eh
>I think 2 spacies are already enough, but if they make his FS not Landmaster again I'd be willing to let it slide
Sceptile got into Pokken, he literally has the highest chance of all Pokemon making it into Smash proper now.
>>321305658
Forgot Nabbit but that already answers my question as to how I feel about him
Who would you even add as a new Mario character if not Nabbit or Capt. Toad? Rosalina and even Bowser Jr (who's been here since fucking 2002) were "pushing it" for some people.
>>321269713
Who is to the right and left of Bandana Dee?
>>321306369
Tsubasa (#FE) and Vincent (Art Academy)
>>321306369
#FE main girl
Art Academy guy (tbqh if WFT can make it in there's no reason why he cant and also have a great moveset)
>>321269713
>KOWASHITAI
I'd rather have Flynn. I haven't even played SMT:IV, but I know he'd be better than ANOTHER FUCKING SHITTY FIRE EMBLEM REP
>>321304905
Guess Golden Sun is in the same boat then :^)
>>321269713
Even though I don't know some of these I'd be fine with all of them, they all look interesting and literally is better than another hundred Fire Emblem reps.
>>321306060
Just don't add anything, Brawl got rid of Doc and didn't add any new Mario reps.
>>321271395
Pretty much what'd I have
>>321307013
yet everyone brings it up when talking about smash, when there hasnt been a golden sun rep in smash yet...
funny
>>321307197
>Brawl
Diddy, Wario
Mario is always going to get more reps. It's M A R I O. The fucking name Smash BROS. is in reference to Mario, it's always going to get more characters whether you like it or not.
>>321269713
>Smash roster still has 0 lolis and 9 shotas
That was a big selling point for Ashley and Inklings.
I really really fucking want Ashley and a Rhythm Heaven rep. That's all I'm asking for.
Porky would be pretty neat tho.
>>321306060
Paper Mario
>inb4 another "Mario"
yeah I know what ever, Paper Mario reps a new spin-off series, offers a new moveset, has multiple titles in his series, and is a MC in his series.
>>321307368
It's half of a loli, since it's another dual gendered character like Robin, Villager, etc. Then again
>Inkling could be just the girl one because no one liked the boys design anyways
>Sakurai adds just the boy because he has the gay
>>321276717
I'm surprised more people here don't recognize her after /v/ produced enough salt to cure every single piece of meat in the world from SMTxFE's reveal.
>>321307337
Wario is deffinetly a Mario character, but I think Diddy escapes that since he was introduced in the DKC series and not a Mario game, regardless if he has been a guest character in Mario games
>>321307235
Doesn't really mean anything when KKR, Wolf, Bandana Dee, Krystal and Indie chars were always brought up lol, Isaac doesn't have a chance of getting into smash if GS doesn't get another game in-between now and when smash 5 is announced, just saying
OP here,
This is the newest iteration of the roster. I removed Henry Fleming (Code Name STEAM guy) and but in Barbara the Bat because she has a lot more games with better sales than CNS.
I also added Starfy and Excitebiker since an anon earlier requested them and I had two spaces left to make a neat little roster set-up thing.
Thoughts? I'm open to switching things up, or if you have any requests for tiles, 'll make them and post them for you.
>>321306060
The number of reps is irrelevant to me
What really matters is whether an individual is truly all-star material or not and doesn't feel like he/she is just there
Anywho I feel Paper Mario does that, he really became a star of his own, with a huge fan following and consistency in the media
>>321309138
>barbara
lol got removed as an AT, she's no better than Isaac right now my man
>>321309138
Now that's a good roster
