So how is this game actually? I didn't really pay attention a few weeks ago when it was getting memed on for microtransactions. Is it shit?
it used to suck but now it has crates
I've really enjoyed streaming it with 5 friends. I don't see myself solo queuing it ever.
>>321188230
do you like executing niggers with dual 50. cals with fancy reload animations and metal playing in the background?
I got a precious shotgun skin and sold it, so now my Christmas sale is pretty much free, so it's alright, I guess.
>>321188230
Used to suck but now it's mediocre
It's alright.
The updates are really slow. Which sucks not just because of content taking months to come, but also because of balancing taking months to be done.
>>321188230
it's like a new and polished version of first year KF1
great but lacking content
>>321188230
it's not shit, it's quite fun actually,
BUT: it is STILL in Early Access. As in, it is lacking some content, such as Perks and maps.
Is Sharpshooter in yet?
>>321188767
Tripwire shill gtfo
Got about 100 hours from it.
Pretty bored of it now, not even looking forward to the update either.
shit balance
slow updates
more of the same
its ok, but whatever
Fantastic gameplay
Amazing gunplay and meleeplay
Challenging difficulty levels
Requires teamwork
Lacks content
Slow updates
Balance is shit
>>321188852
He's not wrong. It's a fine game and it currently has more content than KF1 did at release. But TW is showing that KF1's success was a fluke, not Red Orchestra's rocky launch. I find it hard to support justifying supporting Tripwire any more even if I like the game.
>>321188952
>Balance is shit
How so?
Its an early access title with micro transactions, thats all you need to know to stay the fuck away and wait for release before buying this shit.
What is the best class to level up? The strongest one? And level up quickly? I like Berserker but doing it at level 0... well I need to get carried as I die a lot.
I did firebug in KF1 so I don't wanna do that again. I've been thinking Gunslinger?
>>321188991
On the hardest difficulty, all but three of the perks are useless and about half are actually a detriment to the team, and Firebug is the only actually good perk at that difficulty.
All the ammo capacity is balanced for solo play for some reason, so pretty much every class runs empty half way through the wave.
>>321189116
Which ones are shit? I really liked Support in KF1, have they borked it?
>>321189116
Not only that, but "Kill big dudes" The perk isn't even in the game yet, which is the most important perk and what half of the original game is balanced off of.
>>321189243
Enjoy your no ammo and no damage.
>>321189243
>I really liked Support in KF1, have they borked it?
I have some bad news for you.
its decent now
they are slow as fuck at updating though
whoever is in charge of balancing is fucking retarded
they keep trying to make ammo scarce, I want to shoot stuff not run around the map looking for ammo because tripwire balanced the ammo for fucking singleplayer hard
>>321189243
Yeah. Low ammo, AA12 is way too expensive, welding is mostly pointless.
>>321189243
Welding doors is useless now, since Zeds basically teleport towards you when you look away, oh, and set health to the doors.
>>321188990
Which means nothing since kf1 was just a mod and kf2 is a full blown developed game with almost no content after a year. By wave 5 you're rich as shit with nothing to but since you bought tier 4 weapons in wave 3
It's shallow as fuck compared to kf1. I recommend kf1 if you haven't played that, or if you have any other games on your list wait till the incompetent devs make full release
>>321189354
Don't forget 10 weight, so you can't use the AA12 and ANY other good weapon unless you're level 20 support.
Weight is the most fucked thing in this game and no one seems to discuss it. RPG is useless at ten weight and with the tactical shotgun's weight and cost, I don't think I've ever seen a single person using it. Not to mention Gunslinger weapons being insanely OP thanks to how low their weight is. There's not a single class that shouldn't buy the .500 revolvers.
>>321189354
>way too expensive
This is where you loose all credibility. You get rich as shit easily on any difficulty before wave 5. Nice try...
>adding microtransactions before the game is even officially released
soiled it desu
>>321189669
No, the most fucked up thing in the game is how the weapons are put into "tiers" meaning that there's an expected progression. Each weapon should have a niche within it's perk, and not be completely outclassed by the weapons that come after it.
>>321189694
Seriously shut the fuck up with your KF1 knowledge, it doesn't mean shit here. You are not rich at wave 5 on KF2 HoE and playing 10 waves in KF2 is a waste of time.
needs a combo system
>hurrdurr i am big monster i shrug off 3 rpg rockets and dont flinch. cum here lets hug
how about adding some kind of weak spot thats really hard to hit, and only a certain class has the right tool to hit it depending on where/what it is? because bullet sponge enemies are fucking gay boring
>>321189835
That's how KF1 was, though. MM1 was a straight upgrade to the M79, all of the Commando weapons were straight upgrades.
Before adding five hundred weapon packs, side grades were the exception with the double barrel shotgun and the EBR (that no one used)/Crossbow.
>>321188991
Perks are badly designed and useless. There is always a 1 perk that is 5x times better than his counterpart. Just look at commando/medic perks and compare them
>3% more dmg :^)
>30% higher chance to stumble :^)
>X to do Y
You don't feel rewarded for picking perk to suit your playstyle.
>>321189243
>commando
feels okay but he needs more "humphh" to his weapons and bigger ammo capacity because on hoe you will run out of ammo in the half wave. Also ak and bullpup sucks balls.
>support
is also underpowered, his shotguns are really weak, they dont feel strong at all and welding doors is useless
>demo
he needs that fucking m32 and m79 should be tier 1 not this shitty flare pistol, also pic related
>>321189694
Clearly you haven't played anything above Hard.
>>321190078
>and the EBR (that no one used)
Too many people have opinions on things they know nothing about.
>>321190078
What about the LAR?
>>321190094
>Also ak and bullpup sucks balls.
What? Bullpup is good, but I agreed that AK sucks balls due to its amazing ammo capacity.
>when it was getting memed on for microtransactions
People get one reskin drop a week, and the economy bottomed out after a free weekend. Microtransactions ended up being a non-issue. The big issue is that it gets an update every 3 months. The game still plays great, it just suffered from a lack of content.
>>321190078
>not realizing that pre late-2010 EBR was the most OP shit in the entire fucking game.
Hell, the first "crazy" mod, the WTF mod that did many changes to the weapons that were in the game at that time, the EBR was the only one that wasn't changed.
It was THAT POWERFUL. Fuck you for being that stupid.
>>321190469
>first week of microtransactions
>get a USB case whatever the fuck drop
>sell it for 10 (ten) euros
>the same thing is now going for 10 cents
kek
good thing I learned jew-fu in CS:GO
![360fx360f[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/gbEIPCB.png "360fx360f[1].png")
Hello darkness my old friend
You've ruined another game again
>>321190979
>Play on Suicidal and HoE
>Watch shitter with the most fancy mask died first
It was pretty hilarious.
>>321188851
Good aim with the revolver is sharpie light.
Hell, even a no rank slinger stumbles scrakes with each headshot on normal.
>NEW FREE CONTENT PACK!!!!!
>OH AND THE GAME IS ALSO EARLY ACCESS SO YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN :^)
>>321190078
>MM1 was a straight upgrade to the M79
>m79 was a starting weapon at rank 6 and didn't need to be reloaded, allowing you to switch out and pop one off while doing whatever
>m1 had a poor ammo pool for its capacity and slow reload so mainly fit the niche as a panic weapon for hordes and fleshpounds
>the magazine capacity for either of the drum mags tommy guns had the highest sustained non-reload damage, perfect as a panic weapon or magdumping big zeds on hard or lower
>the choice between scar and fal is purely on preference with scar having a clearer sight and fal having a slightly higher fire rate and longer scope but slightly higher price
Nigga.
support damage buff when?
I hate that the hoe meta consists of demo, firebug, berserker, medic, and gunslinger.
>>321193315
Fuck that. Commando ammo pool buff when?
Fucking grenade pistol disposal and replacement with the m-fucking-79 WHEN
Have they fixed the maps workshop yet?
>>321193536
At least it was better that old 5 Zerkers 1 Medic strat.
>>321193536
Firebug is good now?
It was the worst class in KF1
Gunslinger is great, I love it.
>>321188230
The game is a huge step up from the original.
Gun play feels pretty solid, melee is super fun in this one IMO, the enemies are a a lot harder to fight against.
Overall with it being early access, slow updates, and this weird as hell microtransaction deal
6/10 solo 8/10 with bros.
Its honestly a friend game.
>no spas-12 frag round as demo starter instead of that shitt pistol that can't kill a single clot point blank
>>321194824
>the enemies are a a lot harder to fight against
You mean, scrakes are now worse than fleshpounds because they don't get their head blown off the moment they appear and are always angry all the time.
>>321194893
I feel like Grenade pistol doesn't work correctly at close range. Seems like it does more damage with the shrapnel spread.
>>321194986
>scrakes are worse than fleshpounds
Fuck off with your stale memes
>>321195915
You can kite 5 fleshpounds with a little finesse.
5 mad scrakes will fuck your ass.
>>321196071
And 5 mad fleshpounds won't do the same? You're forgetting that all ZEDs permanently rage when there are only 6 left within the wave.
>>321195000
There's a delay. First the projectiles impact and do a minor amount of damage, then they explode. All the demolitions weapons have this at close range likely to deter the near-explosion-immune Demo from just shooting at his feet, and to mirror how real life explosive projectiles work.
>>321196243
It's hypothetical, dickweed. If you get to round end with big fucks still alive you deserve all you get.
Fleshpounds you can break LOS and whittle down part by part. Scrakes will keep after you until they are firmly lodged right up your dignity the moment you tickle them.
>>321196256
I guess that explained it. I know it's the case for bigger Demo guns but didn't it applied to Pistol too.
S.W.A.T. CLASS WHEN
>>321190094
>Support useless
If that's so how come the current HoE meta involves teams of Support
>>321196670cancelledhope you weren't looking forward to the katana having a matching perk either
>>321190094
The thing is, commando is based entirely around killing trash quickly and from a distance. L85 and scar are both great at that. the shit starting AR and AK both not so much. The other problem being that fire bug and gunslinger can both deal with trash and big shit. Sucks because commando is fun as fuck.
>>321196718
Except it doesn't because HoE money is reduced and scaling up to the AA12 takes too long after the nerf. HoE meta is Zerks and Dicks corner camping.
>>321196775
SWAT was canceled?
Really?
Damn.
>>321196976
It wasn't, the other guy is rusing ya
>>321196976
Nah, please look forward to itin 2017.
Is the AA12 affected by Tactical Reload? I'm not really noticing a speed or animation difference.
>>321196670
I want the SWAT class just so I can roleplay as a soldier heading in to clear out a city/area of zeds
i know im autistic
>>321193315
>support
>needing a buff
What a plonker
So what classes could be left? Sharpshooter for the rifles, and it looks like there's a category for Electric Weapons at the trader.
>>321196428
You're forgetting that medic, zerk, and gunslinger can all outrun enraged scrakes on the highest level with their movement speed buff. You can practically kite the mother fuckers to death with your 9mm if you're patient enough.
Supports (while a shit class now) doesn't even break a sweat killing scrakes since he can double barrel their heads off. Demo can also bludgeon them to death with his RPGs if he's good enough. Firebug can keep them at bay with Microwave gun alt but requires maneuvering to kill. The only one who is absolutely fucked is Commando unless he has ungodly accuracy to land all his shots on the head.
There is NO class that can outrun a fully enraged FP and they don't stop raging until they hit you. And you kind of set yourself up to get fucked if you let the wave go on with 8 scrakes at the end of the wave.
>>321198093
>There is NO class that can outrun a fully enraged FP
Support.
>>321198037
Sharp, Martial Artist, SWAT
So since everyone is saying Support is useless these days, did they actually nerf them at some point or did it just fall behind other classes? Because I recall on release the meta being pretty much 1-2 medic + rest support.
Sure part of what may have made it good back then could have been the stacking itself which negated any ammo issues.
>>321198350
Halved damage and ammo capacity
>>321198093
I liked the rage mechanic for FPs in KF1 better where their rage meter would go down if they swung at you, even if they miss. So you could bait swings out and dodge them to keep them from going full raging bull mode.
>>321198279
What could SWAT even do? There's already Support, Demo, Gunslinger, Commando, and Sharpshooter for what guns they might use.
>>321198093
Games never play out perfectly.
Considering the amount of players who are utter shit you are far more likely to turn around and see 3 enraged scrakes just finishing up your friends and turning towards you than 2 fleshpounds doing the same. And at least if you survive the FPs making contact you can run off and kite.
Being the meat in a scrake sandwich is never survivable, no matter how good your are. You'll never see three of them running at you from the other side of a field, it'll always be one pops up right around the corner after killing the one idiot who ran off but did just enought damage to piss it off -even if you think you can run, another appears, just as mad, in the direction you are running.
>>321198564
Riot shield, heavy weapons capability
Does anyone know how the drop system actually works? I've gotten 2 drops in the dozens of games I've played since the update hit, one was from an offline game and the other was from spectating.
I just wanna kill zeds and make shekels, is that so much to ask for?
>>321197623
>pick a police specialist so you can play a soldier
Heres a funny webm for everyone.
>>321198921
I had a moment where I uppercutted a Siren during slomo with the Pulverizer and her rag doll just soared skyward like fifty feet.
>>321198813
one drop a week
>>321188230
the maps are still shit
>>321198921
>crosshair
>tac shotgun
>Ana
You're right, this is hilarious
>>321189106
they all take the same ttime really.
>>321199118
Really? That just seems like a horrible way to implement the system, how does that make people want to play more than a signle match a week?
Tripwire once again displays their lack of anything resembling thought concerning KF2
whoever thought that teleporting sirens was a good idea should be castrated
>>321199054
Kind of like this?
>>321198608
That goes for every game with pubbies. But as far as scrakes go, they are nowhere near as lethal as FPs and are easier to deal with. Especially with a group of friends who know what they're doing.
>>321198608
nigger the scrake rages no matter what you do
ive left the fucker alone during a solo match, killing other zeds as zerker, then out of the fucking blue he charges.
same goes for fp, they exist solely to bumrush and split the group
>>321199398
...to actually play the fucking game and have fun shooting zeds?
>>321188230
If you liked KF1, you'll like this. Just know it's the same game but better graphics.
>>321199398
>how does that make people want to play more than a signle match a week?
How did they convince anyone to play the game before drops?
>>321199445
Yep, except with an actual impact.
>>321199610
All Zeds autorage when there's only a few left. If you weren't solo, maybe someone pissed it off.
>>321196920
commando is suppose to be a support class that gives out bonus to the team.
>fanfare
>mfw time slows down and I just fill a zed with knives I mean bullets
Dead as fuck.
All servers are empty.
More people play KF1 than KF2.
Just.
Fuck.
My.
Game.
Up.
Family.
>>321198921
>>321199445
Wait what map is that?
>>321199445
>Not using the other iron sights
>>321199907
>lying on the internet
http://steamcharts.com/search/?q=killing+floor
>>321199907
Lies from a memelord? Who would've thought.
http://store.steampowered.com/stats
Dont see Killing Floor 1 anywhere there
>>321199995
>>321200073
Fuck you
>>321200138
Why are you so upset?
>>321200138
I'M YOUR PROM DATE YOU UGLY SACK OF SHIT
>>321200336
Because you exposed me.
>>321200374
>>321200336
FUCK YOUUUUAAAAAGHHL
[Wubeth intensifies]
>>321199940
Looks like a port of the boat one from kf1, I don't remember what it's called.
>>321199617
>>321199634
I played before the drops pretty regularly, and still have been since the update as well, since it's a fun game.
What I don't understand is why they would bring in a drop system that works once a week. Where is the appeal? Who wants something like that?
Regular players will keep playing regardless, and get a USB key or a headband once a week, which will annoy them even more. I don't see any people without the game buying it for a once a week drop either. Literally pointless and a waste of time
>>321200632
I dont think having fun is a waste of time
EYY BIG BELGIAN
>>321189527
Course you'll be swimming in cash if you play normal/hard with lvl 25 perks.
Cash gain is dramatically reduced in Suicidal/HoE
snoozefest
Killing Floor games always had retarded difficulty scaling that kills all fun in favor of some retarded "hardcore factor"
Making zeds faster sounds fun, but not everything else.
>>321200784
I meant the drop system is a waste of time, not the game itself. Tripwire could have just added proper workshop support and let people download whatever skins they wanted. People would be much happier with that and Tripwire could have spent more time on something else, like another perk.
>>321190256
LAR is still amazing and usually used as a cheap off perk weapon or for Sharpshooters with EBR.
LAR is ridiculously good.
>>321193113
If I recall, both HS and M79 have a delay to shoot if you switch out of them too quick. That got me killed a few times.
>>321201380
Yeah, you would think they'd want more drops a week so that players have more crates floating around to tempt them to open them.
>>321201668
That's what I thought, not to mention it's more motivation to play, more matches more drops.
KF2 could really use the player boost
>>321189875
>Scrakes are always knocked down by the first undetonated rocked they eat with their face
>Fleshpounds have an innate weakness to explosive damage
>Everything has a weakness, it's called a head.
What are you on about?
>>321201996
fleshbounds do not have weakness
>>321202074
http://wiki.tripwireinteractive.com/index.php?title=Fleshpound_(Killing_Floor_2)
They nerfed most of the classes recently so I haven't gone back.
I need at least one overpowered perk that I can use to help carry random pub teams to victory. As it stands, most of the teams I played with would die on the first 2 waves that had Fleshpounds.
>>321198093
>There is NO class that can outrun a fully enraged FP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWsK4FQcNso
>this entire thread
you guys really dont play with your friends?
>>321202385
>I need at least one overpowered perk that I can use to help carry random pub teams to victory.
Gunslinger
>>321188230
People are salty they paid full price for an unfinished games and the lazy devs are taking forever with updates
This could have been prevented by not giving the lazy devs any money
>>321202302
the funny thing is that even with 1.5 multiplier rpg cannot make a dent to FP
>>321202582
>lazy
isnt the tripwire dev team really small for its studio, although yes, things should be moving quicker, they are working on it.
>>321202706
That's where C4 comes in.
Also Fleshpounds were meant to be taken on with a team, it should be done quick and painless, otherwise everything goes to shit.
And even if it's solo, what are you doing playing demo in solo?
Though I agree that demo nees M32 back so he can start dealing some big burst on FP/Bosses, right now he's underpowered as hell.
>>321202463
I play with the general.
Made some good friends there even though I'm probably one of the most shit players there.
>>321202449
>keyword "Outrun"
I never said you couldn't dodge the FP, anon.
>>321203238
>Demo class is useless due to self damage and single shot weapons that barely allow for another useful secondary because :^))) weight
>Weight highly limits weapon mixing
>While pistols are good, the gunslinger class is fucking useless since other classes can kill trash zeds better, and it's a detriment to the team on higher difficulties/waves.
>FP and Scrake cautionary scream are too similar
>Some of the weapon mag checks are retarded (Firebug will pump the caulk trigger, nothing comes out)
>Music sucks ass except for a couple songs
>Farmhouse map is dogshit, barely enough room to make trains or kite
>No classes yet that are proficient in killing big guys
>No thank you button
>Less voice communications options in general
>Crate system before there's even enough content
>Zed time like every minute and a half
>Only new zeds are trash variants of the most basic enemy and Hans
>Hans is retardedly tanky, and when he reaches his final form he still has a large health pool (while constantly running after you) meaning you don't get many chances to shoot him if you're the last guy alive
>Blood painting on the textures looks stupid when all the blood gets stopped by a seam in the ground
>Welding is fucking useless with door health and teleporting zeds
>>321188230
It's weird that you can't see if support or demo have extra ammo or granade share perk choosen. You must check every demo and supp to see it (or they can tell you). They should have icon or something like this so you can actually see that you can get something from them. Maybe like ammo? Green glowing backpack or something like this.
Or you can and I am retarded.
>>321205273
yeah anon they actually did add this in the last patch. It's a red icon next to their name
you're not retarded though
>>321205520
I bet it's because I don't play online and I keep grinding solo so I can have all perks 10s and start playing hard online. Thanks for information dear sir/madam.
>>321188230
It's AMAZING.
Has 0 content though, if they balance zeds and add content of the quality that is now, it will be my favourite 2016 game, probably.
