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Between the consoles themselves (not including software) which was the bigger failure?
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>>321146564
Sega Saturn and dreamcast.
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>>321146564
Well Nintendo isnt quitting the console business yet.
Sony is moving away from handhelds.

The fact that a system with no third party support and a system with no support from its own company sold at all is surprising.
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>>321146867
I think they're both just selling from the success of their predecessors, the vita in particular.
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>>321146867
Its ironic that the vita is picking up even more steam after sony completely dropped it. It has more high quality titles coming to it in 2016 than the 3DS and Wii U combined.
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>>321147616
Hey its one of those guys.
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>vita sold more
>but Sony dropped support and won't make another hand-held
>wii u sold worse than dogshit and has no 3rd party support
>parent company still supports it and remains in the home console race, then there's the NX to consider
What Sony needs is its own overpriced plastic crap.
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>>321147616
Not like it matter anymore.
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>>321147806
Well it's good news for the people that bought one.
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>>321147616
>high quality titles
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>>321147616
Hi "I love my vita" boy
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Vita is still getting third party support, so I figure the WiiU would be more of a failure in that regards.
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The vita should have been marketed ore heavily to weebs and Shu should have made sure the Western games weren't sloppy dogshit. Imagine a normie's disappointment playing Borderlands 2 for the first time.
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I like my Vita but I always knew it was destined to fail.
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>>321147976
>>321148119
Yes, yes, the memes are quite epic tonight aren't they brethren? Are you ladies enjoying your latest Nintendo branded Fisher price toy?
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The Vita. They marketed it wrong and even then, it was pants on head retarded when you don't have any BC with the PSP.
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>>321148357
>it was pants on head retarded when you don't have any BC with the PSP.

It does? Digitally, at least.
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>>321147672
>What Sony needs is its own overpriced plastic crap.
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>>321146564

Wiiu. Vita was never a failure and still isn't. Wiiu is just a nintendobox.
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>>321148591
How the fuck can you look at the Vita and not call it a failure?
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>>321148470
Eh, some games for the PSP doesn't have a digital release. A shame, I would have actually bought some of the games that I pirated if only they were made available.

And the one region lock account per memory card.
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>>321148521
That's not Sony, skylanders are on the wii u as well.
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>went to gamestop to buy some old DS games for christmas
>some arab kid with his big brother ask where the Vita games are
>"just here, sadly" as he points to a tiny shelf with like ten games

Couldnt make this shit up. It was like some /v/ punchline unfolding in real life.
What did Sony do to piss off retailers that much?
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>>321146564
WiiU. Only 3 games on there worth getting the system for.


>>321148784
You've seen the sales on PSN for the system, right? No point in stocking up for physical.
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The wiiU despite its lackluster sales moved 1million+ units of Splatoon, that's why Nintendo has continued to give it games however it doesn't which party it gets games from, the wiiU doesn't have many games in general where as the Vita has more games, more support and more variety across genres. I own a wiiU and the vita and I have easily sunk more time into my vita than any other current console I own.

I can understand perfectly well why is wasn't a commercial success but it doesn't bother me, the thing has games, a semi decent line of first party and tons of Playstation exclusives as well as it's own exclusives that continue to trickle down one by one, the most recent being Gundam Extreme Force Vs.
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>>321148784
>tfw I made this gif when I was still in highschool
Goddamn my life is moving fast
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>>321149318
Don't worry, soon enough it won't move at all.
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When a console bombs so hard the plug got pulled not 3 years into it's life cycle and you need to compare it to a handheld that has more games and support that isn't slowing down which instead is picking up then something is wrong.
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>>321149041
I have seen the shitty overpriced memory cards that make me not bother with digital games at all.

Its generally not a good sign when retailers refuse to stock shit. Last time we had that was with the PSPGO.
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>>321149441
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I'm glad the Vita is bombing, I just managed to pick one up for around $15 on clearance. Based Superstore.
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>>321149541
PSP Go was digital-only though. Course they wouldn't.

Vita just doesn't haven enough games to appeal to casuals and the stupid memory card in general.
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>buy vita
>like it hardware-wise but since I'm not a massive weeaboo I had no interest in games for it
>sell it to GameStop for about a third what I paid for it a couple years later
>only have the charger cord, not brick
>employee asks manager if that's okay
>manager responds yes in a way like he didn't give a fuck because nobody will buy it anyway

I wouldn't even say the WiiU is a failure, it's just not super successful and seems like one coming off of the Wii. Vita is definitely more of a failure almost on par with the Ouya
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PSP never really set the world on fire to begin with, Wii U was a colossal fucking faceplant off of the momentum Nintendo had going.
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>>321149541
This is my biggest problem with the vita an dis the main reason why I haven't bought one yet, the memory cards are fucking expensive.
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>>321149907
How the hell did you get a vita for $15?
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>>321150217
PSP had some damn good games though.
Harvest moon, monster hunter, megman, they were all there.
Vita has little to offer if you are not a weeb.
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>>321150420
This
I really want it for remote play so i can play when i need to take a shit
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>>321150725
Should I just get a PSP or should I shell out for a vita?

The PSP I could get way cheaper but the vita can play psp games. Granted, there's only a handful of vita games I could get and there's a bunch of PSP games.
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>>321151157
well the psp can get you tons of emulators, if you like the idea of using homebrew
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>>321151157
Can you emulate on vita like on psp?
If so then a cheap one shouldn't be that hard to find.
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>>321151157
PSP and mod it
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>>321151157
Get a softmod PSP. Nobody pays for PSP games unless they're desperate exploiting the latest Vita firmware.
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>>321148734
Anon. Vita has kept me entertained every month with new games. It's been a constant drain of my wallet. In fact, I actually spent way more money on vita games than any other console this year.

The only people who call it a failure are those who wanted it to be a failure so they keep repeating the same lie over and over until they delude themselves into thinking it was a failure. They have to delude themselves into thinking vita has no games when it had so many. Then they delude themselves into thinking it only has weeb games and therefore bad, at the same time they give free pass to weeb games on the 3ds.
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>>321150205
>Vita is definitely more of a failure almost on par with the Ouya
Do you read what you type?
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>>321148309


Neither of those dudes, but I actually went through and looked at a list of games available for either playstation TV or Vita that would interest me enough for purchase.

I couldn't find 3 games on either that looked interesting.

Meanwhile I'm sitting here with a Wii U I got 75% off from a pawn shop due to a friend working there and I'm just pouring hours of playtime into hyrule warriors, bayonetta, smash, Wonderful 101, Splatoon, mario maker, etc. etc.

I love sony consoles too and I hated the wii.
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>>321150205
>>only have the charger cord, not brick
>>employee asks manager if that's okay
>>manager responds yes in a way like he didn't give a fuck because nobody will buy it anyway

This gives it away that you made up your entire story. It's disgraceful how you have to make something up just for the sake of shitposting the vita.

Oh gamestop will still buy it if you missing charger, however slash the buying price for missing chargers.
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>>321151574
>I couldn't find 3 games on either that looked interesting.

You have shit taste and you're most likely making this up for the sake of shitposting anyway.
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>>321146564
Design?
The Wii U is designed horribly

Sales?
The Vita currently sells better

Support?
The Vita got more software and despite being "dead", still receives more

System OS?
More functional and fast than the Wii Us

Online?
Mixed bag for sure, Nintendo regularly has poor online though

Price point?
Short term, Wii U is cheaper for the console itself; long term if you buy software, the Vita comes vastly on top.

Pretty obvious which is a worst failure.
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>>321151678


So any opinion you don't like = shitposting?

Damn, kid.
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>>321151574
You say this even not owning the console? Isn't that completely ignorant?

You're basically saying you need popular, known IPs to be interested in a game.
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>>321151876
there's a geno plush?
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>>321151302
>>321151305
>>321151315
>>321151321

Which PSP model is the best? The 1000? I hear it has the best build quality.
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>>321151876
>I like Sony more
>Other M poster
>Liking Hyrule Warriors and finding it more interesting than a Vita mosoul
>Considering Splatoon good
>Having Nintendo plushies
>Preordering Halo Reach
>Wonderful 101

Jesus
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>>321152009


You're implying I don't know how to look up gameplay videos, read reviews, and scan lists to find genres that generally interest me?

I didn't say it was shit, I just said that yeah I generally love Sony consoles and I've been wary of Nintendo but the script has been flipped for the current gen.

All I did was comment on my current outlook before you came out the gate both tard guns-a-blazing and foaming at the mouth. Chill out dude.

>>321152070

Yeah my friend got it from some website years ago. This was when we lived together.

>>321152143


Hahaha, I loved iwth a dude who worked at gamestop and regularly took home posters and displays. The genogold plushie is my other roomate's.

Damn dude, you really reached for it though. You should have a job writing.
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>>321152126
1000 pretty much the best choice. Easiest to softmod and has a few more features than the others in the homebrew department.
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>tfw own a vita and a wii u


Wii U is a bigger failure because there are just less games man. Although I've played a lot of WIi games I've missed because they're physically dirt cheap and backwards compatiblity is nice.

Vita I've only bought PSP games that go on sale.
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>>321146564
The Wii U, I'd imagine. To follow up the Wii with a console that performed this terribly, I don't think anyone could have predicted it would flop so hard.
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>E3 2016
>Announces a load of new WIi U games, a new app that allows people to use their tablets as WIi U gamepads, and a new Wii U that is just the console and a Pro Controller for 200 bucks
>Reveals that all games have now been patched to support the pro controller
New games announced include
>Shin Megami Tensei 1/2 Remakes
>Entrian Odyssey 5
>Call of Duty: Undead (It's literally just zombies, all the zombie maps from every cod game, new weapons, modes etc)
>Xenoblade Chronicles HD remake
>Baiten Katos: Revival of the Ascended Hero
Other two games are put on the eshop.
>Shin Megami Tensei: Devil World
Using the Devilworld IP, handled by Atlus with Nintendo's help, 2D RPG ala Zelda 2
>Custom Robo Hyperdrive
>Earthbound 2 (Mother 3)
Enhanced Mother 3, has the first two games unlockable.

Additionally they announce over 200 new games will be added to the Virtual Console.Several of which are JRPGs never released in America, as well Dreamcast and Saturn games.
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>>321152445
>I loved iwth a dude
Oh, and you think I don't have all platforms? At least I can make rational judgement. You are pulling shit out of your ass and spreading it across posts like it means something of value.

Tell me, how is it possible you have research all current and upcoming games to this point and time and can claim that it has NOTHING of interest? You claim to like Hyrule Warriors, so how is something like Warriors Orrochi a bad thing?

I bet you think Xenoblade X is well written and entertaining.
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>>321148521
Sony should partner with Falcom, Marvelous, Idea Factory and so on to make their own weebshit version of amiibos.

Could you imagine how much those things would sell?
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>>321152708
>Saturn games.
Honestly speaking if that were to happen I'd go out and buy a WiiU ASAP
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>Buy first-gen vita
>get bored of sub-par SCE ports and spin-offs
>super western taste, think all Jap games are garbage despite not playing any
>decide to try Persona 4 Golden because it's on sale
>goddamn what is this Jap shit
>mfw I discover the power of friendship
>mfw I discover that weeb games were the answer all along
>mfw have since purchased 10+ bigass weeb games for my vita including SK:SV Physical Edition

Shit sucks if you really don't like Nip games but if you do, just get one already
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>>321146564
I'd say the Wii U. At least the Vita is getting a shitload of japanese games. The Wii U is struggling to even get that.
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>>321146564
Vita by far. By all accounts, Vita's the most powerful handheld on the market, and it's tied to today's leading brand of video game console makers, it has way more functionalities than the 3DS, isn't tied to any gimmick and can allow TV play. Yet despite all that, and all of Sony's efforts, it's still selling like shit and barely has anything to offer that isn't total weebgarbage

The Wii U on the other hand is the weakest console this gen and is tied to a gimmick not everyone wants to adhere to, that plus shit marketing and a dumb name means its failure is at the very least a lot more understandable than the Vita's.
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>>321152992
I'd imagine that they wouldn't sell that well. At least nowhere near as well as Amiibos.
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Vita has Gundam Breaker 3, so I don't give a shit.
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>>321151876
>Other M
Fuck off movieblob
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>>321153321
>and all of Sony's efforts
What efforts? Failing to advertise anything besides Uncharted and Killzone? Refusing to continue making some of their first party games like inFamous(Which was going to get a Vita game) for the Vita simply because they were too expensive(Which is again their fault since they didn't advertise anything), using Borderlands 2(A game which was almost two years old at the time) as a system seller in their 2000 campaign, and letting games they paid for like CoD Declassified end up absolute garbage? Their focus on $5 indies at E3 rather than proper games?

What about them outright ignoring things like Oreshika and Freedom Wars at E3 when they were going to be released only a couple months later and instead chose to focus on that one horrendously bad looking indie roguelike game?

Sony barely did anything for the Vita once Uncharted came out and left the rest of the games it was making die an obscure death with no advertising then complained it wasn't selling. Tearaway is the perfect example of this, a game they paid for and helped develop and not a single advertisement. It even happened to it on the PS4.
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>>321147616
love this meme lad
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I bought the vita at a time when I didn't think weeb games were real games, in other words I completely believed the meme. I bought Killzone, Uncharted, Rachet & Clank and various others including indies.

At some point I was like I might as well try these weeb games then something just clicked.

Danganronpa, Corpse Party, Gravity Rush, Persona, Soul Sacrifice, Trails In The Sky, Rhythm games, Steins;Gate, Sword Art, Ys series, Akiba, Tales, Lost Dimension, Deception, etc. I already imported various rhythm games, gundam and god eater.

I felt like the biggest dumbass considering how much I like these games now. Now I just try to tell people to at least try something different and not to be like I was. Looking forward to the upcoming games for it 2bh
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>>321154923
This. I believed the v memes of persona, miku, danganronpa, etc being trash but persona 4 was great, danganronpa is one of the best and most exciting series i've ever played despite being a vn, and project diva and iavt eat up dozens of hours.
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>>321151574
Sorry that you have shit taste in video games.
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>>321155239
>persona 4 was great
This is the sort of person that enjoys vita games.
I don't know how people sit through it instead of booting up an eroge like Rance, bunny black, violated hero or, well, Eroge.
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>>321155687
Why would you play a shitty porn game instead of looking at actual good porn?
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>>321155239
Even before I got into Danganronpa, my foot was only halfway in the door, I was still playing grush, freedom wars, soul sac and tetering on the edges, I still though VN's aren't real games but... then I tried them. Step by step I became a weeb or just someone who realizes these games are actually really good and engaging. If this is a wall that most western had to climb to enjoy the vita then I understand now why it's not as succesful despite having an incredible library.

I still think Sony should have marketed the device while giving far more attentions Japanese IP's from day 1 so this wouldnt have been such a big problem for users like us who saw sonys stance for the vita as a western AAA machine when it was really just like ever handheld before it, a Japanese portable game machine
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>>321150116
How is the PSP Go anyway?
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>>321155780
>bunny black and Rance
>shitty porn games
In the sense that the porn gets in the way of the game I guess.
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>>321156713
Pretty meh, Has problems the vita has minus the physical games.
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>>321151876
You are opinions are shit but I'm envious of that Dead Money poster
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>>321146564
Vita is proof that japan will never make a good handheld game and they never will because all they make are weebshit that no real gamers would play.

Thank god for the 3DS, absolutely no weebshit at all.
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>>321158176
>3DS, absolutely no weebshit at all
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>>321155687
And I don't know why everyone compares Japanese Vita games to eroge.
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i have both
vita is a piece of shit with only weeb games
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>>321158742
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>>321146564
>Wii U
>considered by everyone to be the best gaming console this gen
>has a ton of amazing exclusives to it

vs

>Vita
>dead for like 3 years and considered to be the biggest gaming failures in gaming history and the worst handheld ever
>hasn't gotten a game announced for it for years

Vita is a bigger failure. At least the Wii U has games while the Vita doesn't.
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>>321158690
>games filled with women that do things to arouse the player (biggest example being monster monpiece, the one where you jack off your vita)
>not comparing them to eroge
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>>321158875
>considered by everyone to be the best gaming console this gen
>has a ton of amazing exclusives to it
>more games than the vita
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The wiiU feels like a fucking toy, its software is also literally designed with 10 year old Japanese boys in mind, it's babby shit for manchildren with few exceptions. I can't into mario anymore at my age and I'm only 20. It's just software literally designed for children.
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>>321158662
3DS has no weeb games on it, it has japanese games but no weeb games.

Know the difference.
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>>321158902
You know what. I'll accept that. I just want to see if 4chan can have ONE Vita thread that doesn't include the word weeb
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>Not including software

>>>>Not including the important fucking part
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>>321158812
name more than 5 quality games on the vita that aren't niche weeaboo shit
>i wrote it on a piece on a paper so it must be true

>>321158875
>>considered by everyone to be the best gaming console this gen
lmfao??
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>>321159075
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>>321159075
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>>321159490
>>321159374

Those arent weeb games, they're japanese games that focus on actual gameplay instead of anime girls.

Try harder faggots.
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>>321159075
>conception
>project mirai
>monster hunter
>digimon decode and Yasuda's torpedo tits
>booger booger friends
>both DeSu remakes
>Senran kagura
>rorona
>VLR
>persona q
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>>321159105

Freedom Wars
Soul Sacrifice
Gundam
Gravity Rush
Corpse Party
Danganronpa
Tearaway
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>>321159558
>I-it's ok if it's on my system
Sure thing buddy
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>>321159490
>>321159374
stop posting
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>>321159610
how u gonna disregard wipeout/persona?
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>>321159558
Try harder faggot
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>>321159636
Why?
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>>321159610
>Soul Sacrifice
>Freedom Wars
>quality
Why play that half-assed garbage when I can play Monster Hunter?

>Gundam
lol

>Corpse Party
isn't good

>Tearaway
Not a bad game, but nothing you should ever spend money on. Pick it up if it happens to be for free on PS+, nothing more.

>Gravity Rush
Will get a superior version on the PS4 so this game is basically irrelevant.

>Danganronpa
lol psp games
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>>321159685
>not disregarding persona
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>>321159875
>Why play that half-assed garbage when I can play Monster Hunter?
Because they're better than monster hunter.
Guy also forgot toukiden kiwami.
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>>321160031
How are they better?
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>>321159875
>Comparing literally Attack on Titan based around verticality and grappling to monster spammer
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>>321159374
I was playing this just today, is this meant to be a dating sim? Because the rythm game in it is inferior to miku on the vita, in fact its so inaccurate, no idea how people play rhythm games on the vita
>>321159875
Here's another one : Dj MAX Technika Tune + Superbeat Xonic

>>Danganronpa
Danganronpa 3 + Ultimate Despair Girls

>Why play that half-assed garbage when I can play Monster Hunter?
Is that the only hunting game you guys have? In which you will shill until the end of time?

I rather play non-pixelated non-240p games

Toukiden, Freedom Wars, Soul Sac, God Eater is more than enough to cure my pixel hunter itch.

also

Corpse Party is fine, its pretty scary.
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>>321160080
>better graphics
>better controls
>actually have characters and story
>not grind operated, rather it's character driven
>toukiden lets you use real guns and not "bow-guns"
>actual monsters instead of overly large animals that got draconified
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>>321160192
Toukiden 1+ 2, Freedom Wars, Soul Sacrifice, God eater 1+2+3, taking into accounts sequels and free psp emulation
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>>321160192
>Corpse Party
Read some manga that involved a trap once.
Completely lost all interest after he got tentacled to death.
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>>321147652
Hey, it's one of THOSE guys.
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>>321160192
>Ultimate Despair Girls
>quality game

You can't be serious
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Wii U still gets games that are able to win popular vote awards.

Vita games are relevant only too weebs for the most part.

At the rate of PC ports of Vita games, Vita's relevance in the weeb market is quickly waning as well.

Most recently announced were God Eater Resurrection and God Eater 2 ports and before that was Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus and Tokyo Xanadu.
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>>321146805
>mfw I own both
>mfw you will never play panzer dragoon saga
>mfw you will never play guardian heroes
>mfw you will never play radiant silvergun
>mfw you will never play shenmue
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Vita has a shit library unless you're a massive weeb (even better if you know Japanese, luckily I am both). Sony dropped support for it incredibly quickly but it's still getting some third party stuff and multiplatforms/ports, though it's losing the few exclusives it does have right and left to PS4 and/or PC.

WiiU has a generally mediocre library with a couple good games and planned obsolescence that would make Microsoft blush, third part support is nonexistent.

Hard to really call a winner but I think I prefer the Vita.
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>>321159558
>Hatsune miku
>Atelier
>not weeb
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>>321160917
Tokyo Xanadu isn't coming to PC. Xanadu Next is being brought over, but it was a PC game originally.
>>321160192
Should I get GE on vita? I have all platforms its coming out on, and a new portable hunting game actually sounds really comfy.
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>>321146564

all consoles are failures these days

also the games are either some repetitive open world bullshit or a self playing shooter or FTP cancer.

early 6th gen was the last decent gen, even then it ducked ass.
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>>321161107
That picture and filename won't ruse me.
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>>321161234
The game will most likely be a vita base, GE is best on handhelds and will have the biggest online community there. I believe the PS4 version will be a graphically revised vita port but still an upscaled port at its core.
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>>321159558
>Those arent weeb games
>atelier
>one of the game series that's used to label the playstation 3 as a weeb machine
>not a weeb game
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>>321148309
we got ourselves a memer here kids
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>>321160192
>no idea how people play rhythm games on the vita
What do you mean? I have no trouble with f2nd on vita
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KENKA BANCHO BADASS RUMBLE ON SALE FOR $7.50 ON VITA RIGHT NOW!!!
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>>321161270
>Not dressing them up as Navy SEALS
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