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It's just a fireball motion after pressing forward. What's to discuss?
Do people seriously find this hard to do?
>>321137730
Meme input
>>321137730
>people pretend this is a good mechanic
>while attacking wavedashing
Artificial difficulty at its finest, take Smash as an example, what move you want when you want it, no unnecessary shit.
>>321138312
>MUST BE THE SAME PEOPLE!!!
Smash retard
>>321137730
What the fuck is this supposed to be? Draw a Z with the stick?
>>321138482
>>321138482
Go forward and then do half circle.
>>321138204
It's not that it's hard to do, at least it isn't for me.
It's that there's no point. I could understand why we'd need inputs back when we had 2-4 buttons on a controller, but now there's no excuse to still have them.
>>321138482
Forward-Down-Forward
>>321137730
THIS IS PROBLEMATIC
>>321138467
>implying smash players aren't the best and brightest competitive gaming has to offer
>>321137730
Literally impossible to do without being psychic.
Hell, even I could do that.
Granted when I played a little bit of CvS:Pro and SFA3, I couldn't do it consistently, but I could do it.
>>321138747
>implying smash players don't shit in trashcans
>>321137730
forward, down, down-forward
623
It's literally a hadouken but with a forward in the beginning and cut off slightly at the end
I just recently switch to stick it didn't take me long to get use to doing inputs again. My biggest problem was pressing the button too early.
>>321138662
Except for the fact that every button is used for normals already making special inputs still required. Let me guess. You play Smash.
>>321137730
i made a z and punched but it never worked
>>321138840
at least we're not fucking jungle apes
>>321138662
An Xbox/ps4 gamepad only has 8 buttons.
>>321138614
fucking seriously? I could never figure that shit out for some reason.
>>321138937
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n1Uaap4TOkk
Average smash player
>>321138747
>implying smash players aren't the worst bunch of manchildren on the planet and know for destroying tournament venues causing them to be forever banned from ever holding events at those venues again
I don't think there is a fan base worse than Smash
>>321138957
It's just the picture that makes it look harder than it actually is.
>>321139056
>cherry picking this hard
How would you like it if I posted your idol LTG?
>>321138937
Those jungle apes actually have charisma and are entertaining to watch. Smash players just shit on the floor like autists.
>>321139102
>I don't think there is a fan base worse than Smash
The entire FGC
>>321139197
>who is the entire melee top 6
even the autism incarnate that is mew2king has more charisma than the average FGC dindu
>>321139102
Anyone have the Stinky Tuesdays screencap? Some smash group got banned from hosting at a Tennessee apartment complex rec room because the rank body odor was scaring away potential renters. Residents took to calling those evenings Stinky Tursdays.
>>321139206
What is an FGC?
>>321139182
Still better than the whiny bitch in the hotel video. At least LTG works out.
>>321138662
There are 6 buttons in SF. Every character has at the very least 2 specials, with 3 different versions. Add to that crouching/command normals, EX specials, supers and such. There would be absolutely no way to make room for all abilities without motion inputs.
I have trouble with it on a d pad but on a stick it's pisseasy
>>321139342
No.
>>321139206
You mean the community that Smashfags cry that they deserve to be a part of? How dumb are you?
On a side note, the FGC isn't great. But it's at least way better than Smash.
>>321139590
Let smash believe they're part of it. If it means more fuckable soccer moms hanging out and letting fighting game venues babysit their kids then great.
Is there even anything to discuss? It's really not that hard and I find it ridiculous that anyone would be so fucking casual to find wiggling a stick hard.
I don't even fucking play fighters.
>>321139102
smash and fgg are worst communities.
>>321139858
They haven't done Zangief's moves.
>>321139894
Except for /v/.
>>321139590
FGC is bitter about smash being the most popular fighting game by a wide margin and being unable to cash in on it because niggers have pea-sized brains and aren't smart enough to pull off all the complex tech skills. It's why you'll literally never see a black person playing, let alone doing well at melee, because shine spiking and all the other fox tech takes actual skill as opposing to memorising part of a circle motion because that's all a nigger is smart enough to do.
Call me when you want to do a real input.
>>321139894
At least fgg doesn't go to hotels and shit on the floor and vandalize the property. Even fgg is way better than Smashfags. Let that sink in a minute.
fighting games are just garbage it makes no sense to lock moves behind crazy inputs say what you will about smash but at least it doesnt have this trash gameplay
>>321139986
Gief's inputs are shit at times, but it feels damn good pulling them off.
That said, he's no Alex.
>>321140095
See, I'd think the complaining would make more sense if all the inputs looked like this or something, but they don't.
Are really people who think that a dragon punch is too hard?
>>321140095
>Not posting the harder CVS2 one
>>321140084
>child's understanding of fighting games
Smash players, ladies and gentlemen.
>>321140084
Please let this be pasta.
>>321138363
I always had a feeling the idiots who can't handle FG inputs intersected with Smash "players."
>>321140125
>>321140125
I know this is bait, but I was just thinking about this a little while ago.
It's actually pretty brilliant how fighting games use their inputs. In Smash Bros., many moves need to be prepped before they can be used, Smash attacks being the most obvious, with the prepping ability being entirely dependent on the character's ability. But in an actual fighting game, the prepping ability is based on the player's ability to press all the inputs. If the attack gets messed up or comes out too slow, that's on the player.
>>321139348
smash fans may smell a little funky once in a blue moon but at least we'll never smell as shit as a nigger
>>321139986
360s are legit retarded and counter intuitive. they should just be half circles
>>321140573
Even the KOF Mexicans don't get booted from venues for being too autistic to shower.
>>321140606
360s aren't that bad unless you're on a keyboard or something.
Double 360s are fucking satan incarnate
>>321140606
Indeed, ken.
I always have slight trouble doing dragonpunch when facing the left for some reasons. Half circles also fuck me up especially when its for doing an air fireball for those pesky umvc3 combos that require for a character to be slightly above the ground
>>321138363
>can handle triangle jumping and shit in smash
>can't do a fucking quarter circle or z motion
>calls either "artificial difficulty"
And I'm assuming you came out the womb able to fly around in smash? More than likely, you practiced it. Probably for longer than it would take most people to get the hang of these inputs.
It's just a pissing match over people not choosing their preferred game.
>>321137730
That graphic was shit to begin with.
how many of you can do a pretzel motion?
>>321137730
how do i pronounce this? zap? zit? iztp?
>>321140901
Raging storm all over those fucking bogards
>>321141001
shoryuken
>>321137730
Seriously do what this guy says.
>>321138140
ive told that to some of my friends and then could do dragon punch 90% of the time.
if you still dont understand or dont succeed. then your pressing the button way to early.
tap foward then do a hadouken then press the button.
simple as that.
the exact imput is Foward then down and then down|foward then press button, you dont even need to go back to foward again.
>>321141001
Izap. It's usually an electric attack in most fighting games.
>>321140681
>one group of smash fans didn't shower on a given day so all smash fans are therefore autists with no hygiene
There are more people in the united states alone that play smash than everyone in the world who has ever played KoF combined, this is hardly a fair comparison
So with fighting games on the rise again and games like Rising Thunder coming out, will we finally be able to see some more games that focus on something other than motions?
>>321141276
>than everyone in the world who has ever played KoF combined
China's pretty fucking big fampai.
>>321141279
>Rising Thunder
Gross.
>>321141279
>rising thunder
>on the rise
>coming out
Alpha/Beta came out months ago, it's a dead game now
2 billion hours in paint
>>321141159
oh right, upgrades to izapga
>>321141279
Rising thunder did absolutely nothing. That game is dead as fuck and only proved that the inputs weren't the entry barrier.
i like fighting games and all but if my opponent wants to stop playing in the middle of a match and just do taunts and jump around i kinda prefer that, less pressure
>>321141532
>those stick pics
Heh.
DEMON CRADLE
>>321141780
GODDAYMNIT
>>321141279
Everyone got their fill of rising thunder before they even had anything for people to actually buy
>>321141470
>>321141654
So why'd it die so fast? I figured it'd die cause every single character's a boring as fuck robot, but it was because of the gameplay?
>>321138312
Wavedashing is a retarded physics glitch. It lets you move while having full access to your other moves, and Smash already has a dash where you can attack, grab, or jump. The analogue in fighting games would be sliding forward while throwing hadoukens or sonic booms. Stupid and ultimately dumbing down the game.
Special move directions purposefully add more moves to a control scheme that already had so many moves they ran out of buttons and simple direction+button inputs. The DP exists because forward+punch is already taken by other moves.
>>321141834
Both. Boring as fuck aesthetics and ultimately pointless cooldowns with no other redeeming factors.
>>321141276
>There are more people in the united states alone that play smash than everyone in the world who has ever played KoF combined, this is hardly a fair comparison
>retard smash kiddy doesn't know how fucking huge KoF is in South America/China
>>321141834
Because the scrubs got hit with the cold hard truth that it wasn't inputs or execution barriers that was making them lose.
>>321141834
The entire game is just boring to play. The fucking robots end up being the most exciting part about it.
I'd honestly accept it more if they pulled some shit out of their ass and played it all off as some big social experiment because you got some funny footage floating around of people getting blown up by the simplest setups and crying "nerf" every week because the cooldowns were ultimately pointless.
>>321141834
It's really simple why it died.
It's an unfinished, and the hurdle for playing fighting games isn't fighting game motions despite what retards think.
The dipshit who cant do a fireball gets just as destroyed in street fighter as he does in rising thunder.
>>321139342
Haha, holy shit anon. That's a good one.
>>321138840
Jesus. Only heard of furries being worse. Pathetic fucks can't even manage basic levels of decorum when representing their group at events.
>>321142819
>cherry picking
not all smash fans are bad dumbass
infact most of them are the friendliest, chillest folks you'll ever meet.
>>321140095
Why are there inputs separated by commas? Do you have to wait a beat before starting the next string? If you do, I can see how that's difficult, but the buttons themselves look like an easy-enough pattern, just long.
What game is that anyway?
>>321140095
What are these input strings called? Am I retarded for having called them "combos" all my life?
>>321142939
Its your house. Keep it clean.
>>321140095
What the fuck is the timing of those inputs supposed to be?
>>321142939
>most of them are the friendliest, chillest folks you'll ever meet
That go and steal equipment and backpacks when you aren't looking.
>>321143328
all at once, then one before you even started
>>321138363
Naw bro. Smash is fucking worse. I can't even do tilts without stopping still, slightly moving my stick, waiting a half second THEN pressing A. Peach's forward tilt is great but fuck, it comes out when I least need it and when I want to do it, I smash instead.
...Yet I can do Fighter inputs no problemof course when theyre not pretzels
Sakurai shouldve made neutrals and tilts for the A button and Smashes bindable only to the analog stick. Would be so much better.
Did someone say inputs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qcjCnkbROY
>>321143481
An anon in a past thread suggested just getting rid of dash attacks. Works for me.
>>321143481
i think tilts can be set to the c-stick, or maybe thats only project m, i forget
>>321143481
in smash 4 you can set the C stick to be tilts instead of smashes
>>321140095
????
>>321143772
>in smash 4 you can set the C stick to be tilts instead of smashes
Not going to lie, that's pretty neat.
>>321143772
WAIT, WHAT.
>>321143954
set it to "attack" instead of smash in the controller settings
>>321141850
>glitch
>>321144128
You know you don't normally carry your momentum forward like you hit a frictionless surface when you jump up and down right?
>>321141834
>I figured it'd die cause every single character's a boring as fuck robot
Shit taste faggot
>>321144290
Yeah, sure. What does that have to do with wavedashing being a glitch?
In melee, momentum carries from air-to-land, regardless of whether you are wavedashing or not. If you have horizontal speed in the air with Luigi's slippery ass and you land, you are gonna slide.
Wavedashing is straight up just the game handling momentum as it normally does. All it is is adjusting your landing momentum using the momentum from melee's directional air dodge.
Shit isn't breaking, and therefore shit ain't a glitch.
I bought an xbox controller for fighting games
help me
Half circles are harder.
>>321137730
I had an issue with this for a long time, I then asked how to do it in /fgg/ they said 623 and ever since, I could do it with 100 percent accuracy
>>321148851
Are you playing on a numpad?
>>321149145
no, why would you think that? it's just proper notation
but you are correct in the instance that numerical notation is based on the keypad
>>321149265
What did you learn form that then? Did you not actually know what the input is?
So what's a good fighting game to start getting into now? I only had a chance to play SV5 beta for a couple hours, but now that it's over I need something else.
>>321149415
I was doing the input complete wrong, looking at the picture in the OP which is the same as he image in SF4, I thought the notion was 6543 or a z on the entire d-pad
of course I wasnt doing the SRK because of the erroneous input
>>321148506
HELP ME
>>321138614
>half circle.
>>321148506
>>321150332
There is no helping you. You're fate was sealed the moment you purchased the controller
>>321139056
It sounds like this guy has never been to a hotel before.
I can do everything else fine, but how do you do the back and forth shit that all of M. Bison's moves have? Nothing I try seems to work.
It requires dexterity and discipline to perform inputs in the stress of a fight. Shitters can never understand
>>321139342
>people actually believe this.
>>321151398
Those are charge motions, other characters like Chun, Guile, Blanka, ect have those. You have to hold back for 2 seconds and then move forward really fast.
>>321150554
>reddit memes
>>321137730
>forward
>down
>3rd gear
>>321150554
Quarter circle, what ever.
>>321141850
The analogue in fighting games is plink dashing or something you fucking retard. You have no idea what you're talking about
>>321151728
Two seconds.
So that's what I'm fucking up.
Thank you, man.
>>321152079
>People will now come in an try to justify why there's no indication of the timing
>>321151728
>>321152079
It's usually not actually 2 seconds, though. Most charge moves in SF4 require around 1 second or so.
>>321142939
#notallsmashfans
Smash fags kek
>>321137730
Combos are pretty fun to execute, as are various other mechanics that are non-trivial to execute, and I don't see anything wrong with mechanical complexity for its own sake.
I die a little bit inside every time some nerd retard throws a fit about "arcane, obtuse bullshit."
>>321142334
Oh man that's fucking beautiful.
>>321141850
>sliding forward while throwing hadoukens or sonic booms
Holy shit, you realise how many frames WDing requires before is actually leaves you in a state of free action?
>The DP exists because forward+punch is already taken by other moves.
And down-forward punch was too? For all relevant characters?
>>321154039
>Combos are pretty fun to execute
No they aren't. I hate them.
>>321154209
Well I hate you.
>>321139348
Lol tell me more.
Why do people smell like shit I mean a shower is like 1 minutes.
>>321148506
Use it for third person shooters and platformers.
>>321154528Would it piss you off more if I told you that the exception to this was Smash Bros because of the dynamism, improvisation, focus on accuracy and movement over command input buffering and ability for the opponent to respond?
>>321156082
But Smash 64 is 0-to-death combo: the game and Melee has lots of true combos.
>>321139056
>this guy has a cute gf and you dont
Feels bad man
