Will it top Bloodborne?
>>321108006
It shouldn't be hard
Does Bloodborne have snektits? No? Then how is it up question?
>>321108006
Eh? Different games, different market.
>>321108006
Only if it tops this 5.
>>321108006
Probably
>>321108006
Dunno, but it will probably be my GotY for 2016
Bloodborne won't be on PC so no
Exclusives are inherently better
In sales, yeah. Everything else is subjective.
>>321112543
But Xcom 2 is exclusive only for PC. So it basically is inherently better.
>>321108006
yes
i love how they made the character customization deeper
now i'll care even more when i get raped by rng
yesssss
>>321112470
that looks pretty cool
but will it play as shitty as it played in previous game where AI didnt even fucking start making moves until you discovered it and had a cutscene for every fucking enemy encounter in the game?
Why would you compare the two?
>>321113135
Enemy "pods" now patrol and your soldiers start in a stealth mode where you get to fire off the first shot. After you get detected they still do the pod activation animations.
>>321113135
the game would be impossible if the AI were allowed to move immediately when you spawn as the starting locations of your soldiers on some maps are extremely disadvantageous.
the cutscenes when you spot them are negligible. you nitpicky fuck
>>321112930
Devs said they want to release it on consoles after they're done with the PC version.
>>321113431
>negligable
Are you kidding
They made it so that the ideal way to play was advancing one soldier per turn so not to trigger the scramble unless you were ready
>>321108006
I am so fucking hype for this game. I haven't been excited for anything in a long time. What's wrong with me?
>>321113445
"want" is a strong word. Xcom did very poorly on consoles. All the devs have said is there's a chance it can come to consoles.
>>321113445
No, they've said multiple times they're not even thinking about consoles right now but they're not against the idea. If it were any other game I'd say that kind of confirms a port but the 2012 xcom reboot bombed hilariously on consoles and it's probably not worth their time porting the game when they could just make DLC for the PC release instead.
It fucking blows for the console Xcom fans but I wouldn't hold my breath for a port.
>new xcom ruined chryssalids
>newer xcom adds furbait
>>321113445
If it does, then we can Literally say, "enjoy your scraps".
I had no idea it bombed on consoles
>>321113606
better safe than sorry
>>321113431
>nitpicky
no, its lazy design
original xcom had the aliens wandering and actively killing civilians during scenarios
the new xcom sucked and walking up and triggering enemies feels extremely static and lazy
>>321114118
I think the numbers were like 114k sales on consoles vs 2.7 million on PC. That's what I saw thrown around a lot during the announcement.
I'm only interested in this for the customisation desu
>>321108006
Yes. It shouldn't even be a contest. Even if it's a shit show and worse than EU it will top BB in every single way.
>>321113445
Devs say that for any games. They say "we'll keep our options open and we'd love to bring it over" From has said this about BB as well. All this means is it probably isn't coming to consoles. The UI would need an entire overhaul and Firaxis does not have money to waste on a platform that sells poorly for them and they are shit at developing.
>>321114414
I hope it stays on PC. Diablo Did it on consoles and merely got half a million against 15+ million sales. it's pointless to do a port on a platform w/c'll sell lower than your original exclusive one.
>>321114104
>Ruined Chryssalids
How?
>>321115064
Design. Mechanics.
>>321114104
There's no furshit at all
>>321113606
You cannot do that in XCOM 2 if that's your question. In XCOM 2 there will be a stealth mechanic at the beginning which is useful for setups. There will also be an objective in every single game. Likely it will be a time objective or one where you have to evacuate as well (enemy reinforcements will make it disadvantageous to move every tile) . In addition, there are now alien objectives for missions. The enemy types like Stun lancer and shield bearer or chryssalids will punish you heavily for not playing aggressively and taking them out early. So to answer your question no XCOM 2 will play very differently from EU/EW in that regard.
>>321115226
Anon, there are snaketits. And they are not the monstergirl kind.
>>321114104
>furbait
That's bullshit. Nowadays furry will latch themselves on to anything that's an animal. Snake men would have been just as furbait as snake women.
>>321113445
Whelp, that's it. I'm waiting for it to drop on xbone.
>>321115187
because Saibamen looking aliens are good.
also mechanics they were the same they basically poison and impregnate people.
>>321115493
>saibamen
New chryssalids are toothless compared to the old.
Bloodborne exists solely for Sonybrony shitposting and should be a bannable offense
>>321108006
Bloodborne is garbage, casualized version of a heavily shilled japanese action rpg with clunky animations and poor hit boxes.
Xcom 2 is the sequel to one of the most well designed turn based strategy games of all time.
It'd be really hard to fuck that up, though I'm sure Jewish publishers will try to ruin the game in some way. probably through a distinct lack of sleeves.
>>321114104
>implying Snakes weren't in the original X-Com
I'm very very hype for XCOM 2.
I'm playing EW right now, in fact. I suck at Ironmang though.
>>321115869
if it makes you feel better the devs said they never though anyone would be able to beat classic mode on ironman difficulty so there's no reason to push yourself. play on normal and savescum where necessary, it's how the game is meant to be played.
>>321115446
We cant know unless they do it. IF you got a pc why even bother getting it on console when you can get it on a Steam sale?
Is it a PS4 exclusive?
>>321116095
so all my friends will know when i'm playing.
>>321116027
I find normal too easy though. Classic is fun but I always find myself abusing savescum because >reasons. I probably should have tried N/I instead of C/I first. Ah well, if I don't go down in flames once then did I really even play the XCOM?
>>321116205
nope.
>>321116205
>good game
>ps4 exclusive
Pick one.
So like I haven't really kept up with XCOM 2 development. I'm vaguely familiar with the setup (XCOM being a guerilla force instead of earth's defenders), so other than snaektits, what features are being added? I heard something about a LOS display. Inb4 >breaklos.
>>321115694
that looks like shit and too close to the brutes
>>321116975
>7 foot tall bipedal crab
>shit
The reboot Chryssalids are generic as fuck, you could throw them in starcraft or spore and nobody would notice a difference
>>321108006
the only game I'm looking foward to in 2016. Maybe some dlc packs but thats about it.
>>321116662
The way LOS has been improved significantly, Overwatch now works sequentially, Air game has been removed, the Aliens and ADVENT have more of a meta-game now, fuck-ton more customization, Covert OP 5th Class (?), unknown 6th Class DLC, possible Psi sub class, and a lot more stuff that I can't be fucked to mention.
>>321117232
Sorry anon but one thing that definitely is improved over old xcom is the enemy design.
Retarded 90s ideas of aliens look like some saturday morning cartoon shit and just aren't scary.
>>321113445
Yeah, but no it wont. LOL wishful thinking.
>>321108006
in price lol
>>321118514
You can preorder it for £20
>>321118587
yeah with out a class, missions, armor, weapons and other shit. nope, keep it you shill
>>321118685
>can't use basic buy feature without bloodborne dlc
okay bub
>>321118587
damn didnt notice say one DLC that makes this game $80 dollars. Looks like its a pass.
>>321118773
it's OK when devs cut a game, lock ready content behind a pass 2 month before release, name it a deluxe edition and sell it for $75
>>321118878
It's not day one dlc, it's a season pass.
>>321118685
That other shit won't be in the game till like fall next year.
>>321119103
wait a minute you dont even get anything right away for buying it?
>>321119103
I guess thats ok but fuck man I hate dlc.
>>321119103
>It's not day one dlc, it's a season pass
>it's somehow OK
also yes thanks for reminding me about it having an actual day one DLC
>>321119203
Nah, it's pre ordering the dlc. Same thing that was in Fallout 4, Witcher 3, Bioshock infinite, Evolve, Titanfall, Most CoD games, Most Battlefield games and pretty much anything released after 2012.
>>321117546
>generic spiky bugs
>an improvement
New chryssalids a shit
A SHIT
They aren't even as dangerous as the classic
>>321115493
>actually disliking the old design
dude, what the fuck
>>321119341
The day one DLC is a pre order exclusive, it just adds some extra customization. The other DLC is a season pass, which isn't even being worked on yet, so it can't be cut content.
>>321119396
funny how fallout 4 didn't have preorder DLC though
>>321108170
go away destiny
>>321119623
>>321119589
all the old xcom designs are fucking garbage compared to enemy unknown, you nostalgiababbies.
hell, I bet you didn't even play xcom when it came out
>>321119341
The day one DLC is like 3 hats and some face paint, I don't like pre order shit either but it's really minimal.
>>321119830
It had a pre-order for a season pass you dumbass.
>>321119650
>dude buy cosmetics and stuff that's not even on paper yet, only $80!
just stop shilling
>>321119909
Yes, old Xcom designs are so garbage they are literally coping them for Xcom2
>>321120042
we were talking about day one dlc
>>321119103
This is gonna get a day 1 pirate from me, and then I'll buy the deluxe version for half price in 8 months.
>>321108570
DARK SOULS HAS SNEKTITS!!
>>321120173
XCOM 2 has no day 1 DLC, it has a pre-order bonus, which hardly qualifies.
>>321120173
there is no day one dlc, there are preorder bonuses, if that's what you call day one dlc
>>321120242
>thread about upcoming pc game
>some random faggot posts a ps1 game
every fucking time with these souls dorks.
>>321120051
Literally every big game has stuff like this these days, I don't see why you're complaining.
>>321120368
Dark souls is a PC game
>>321113135
>>321113606
>>321114397
Did we play the same game? I've had alien pods move into sight one there own all the time. And on missions where you have to save civilians, the ayys actively move around and murder them.
>>321120552
Yeah, they do both of those things. What they can't do is show up and immediately kill someone, because they get forced to move to cover first.
>>321120537
It had a shitty pc port that required a dozen patches to be barely playable. It's console baby garbage.
>>321120552
the aliens move without being discovered. Thats what the alien activity indicator is indicating.
>>321120552
They didn't play the game, obviously
>>321120815
No shit. The other posts are implying that doesn't happen.
>>321108006
>will a game in an entirely different genre be better than a game that has nothing to do with it or any grounds to be compared to it in any way other than maybe graphics which is unfair because one game is getting a PC release and the other isn't so clearly the one with the PC release will look better
>>321120447
$75
>>321120986
If you dont want stupid answers dont ask stupid questions.
>>321121273
Yeah, for the game + season pass. You can just buy the game separately for normal price.
>>321121273
It's 5 dollars a dlc for a major release. Those dlc are practically guaranteed at this point and they'll probably sell for 10 dollarydoos a pop.
Why don't you be Jewish somewhere else?
>>321121436
opps I see I misquoted you.
>>321120986
>>321121470
it's still $75
>>321121485
I'm not selling my unfinished product for $75
whatever you say would justify it
>>321120747
Technically this can happen, but only if you're retarded and enable 'Itchy Trigger Tentacle' from the second wave options.
But it's really just faster punch yourself in the dick - you'll get the same end result.
>>321121668
They're offering you a discount on something a fan of xcom games would buy anyway, in the process showing their Jew overlords that xcom is a strong franchise and funding future games and dlc for the current game.
You're literally complaining about a discount.
>>321122002
Even then, it'll only happen with a select few units, right? Everything with a gun that can't take cover, or something along those lines.
Remember: Never pay more than $20 for a game.
Can't wait for it to be cracked.
>>321120190
No one gives a shit.
>>321122083
$75 isn't a discount for a digital key
>>321122141
50% chance or something I think
>>321122186
not for a digital release anyways
>>321122212
The base game is 60 dollars.
The base game plus 3 dlc is 75 dollars.
That's 5 dollars a dlc.
Since these seem to be large dlc and since xcom is a big name one can reasonably estimate that these dlc will cost more than 5 dollars in the future.
You are complaining about a discount.
>>321108006
what, in sales?
maybe
how much did bb even sell
>>321122453
The season pass is actually up on the steam page for $20 so it's a $5 discount if you buy the fancy edition.
>>321122453
no one gives a shit
game has dlc and it's $75, it's shit move especially after they announced it 2 month before release
>>321122186
>Remember: Never pay more than $20 for a game
Whats it like to be a poor NEET loser?
>>321122703
>game has dlc
All games have fucking DLC. XCOM: EU had DLC.
>and it's $75
Not without the DLC.
>>321122770
friendly reminder this is an 18+ website
>>321122770
whats it like to be an underage newfag?
>>321122703
The dlc won't be out until spring of next year.
it's not like they released the game with the content ready to use but locked behind a paywall that's just what they're working on for the future.
It's also funny that you say "no one gives a shit" when you're the only one dumb enough to complain about saving money.
>>321122819
xcom eu didn't have classes locked away, sam
>>321122942
Sure it did. It only had four classes on release, MECs and gene mods are DLC. XCOM 2 has five classes on release.
>>321122942
They've constantly said there's going to be 5 classes in the game and that still hasn't changed. This is a new class that hasn't ever been advertised to be in the initial release, paul.
Does pre-ordering give you only the skin dlc, or the entire $20 season pass for 2016 content
>>321120809
>required a dozen patches to be barely playable
oh so like every PC game out there?
>dragon's dogma and RE0 on jan
>aylmao 2 on feb
>memesouls 3 on april\
is there anything worth while picking up on march?
>>321123147
not even close
>>321123138
regular preorder just gives you the game and maybe the cosmetic stuff, dunno
preordering the +15$ edition gives you the season pass
>>321122942
But isn't locked away, Firaxis don't work on DLC until after they released the game its for. The 6th class DLC is scheduled for summer of 2016, a few months after xcom 2 gets released.
>>321123327
summer?
why that long?
are you sure theyre not working on the inevitable console port?
>>321122895
>$75 is saving money
nope, I was going to pay 60$ for a full version of game
>>321123036
it was an addon
>>321123069
even if it was 100 classes before DLC and 101 with it it's still a dick move.
they literally ruined their own game before releasing it.
>>321123327
bla blah blah
look at 4 guys defending 75$ for a 25 symbol key
pathetic
kinda tired of all the shills, I'm out
>>321123175
Star fox:)
>>321123487
of course they are, they would also include all DLC in it and sell it cheaper
>>321123573
sources say its april
>>321123516
>it was an addon
It was additional content for the game that you download. That is the literal definition of DLC.
>>321123516
so I'm guessing you didnt like enemy within? go fuck yourself.
I haven't followed XCOM 2 since announcement, why should I be interested in it? How is it different from Enemy Unknown?
>>321123516
Then pay 60 dollars for the full version of the game and don't buy the dlc kiddo.
It's you vs every one in the thread because you're either trolling or functionally retarded.
>>321123663
correct, that wasn't announced before release of EU which was a good game on it's own. what they did with xcom 2 is sell cut game for 60$
bye
its hard to compare xcom and bloodborne, since they are radically different. both games look really great.xcom has snektits tho
>>321123795
you get to raep sneks.
>>321123487
There's a lineup for the DLC and the one including a new firaxis made class is the last one. The other two are coming out in spring so I don't think they're doing a console port right now.
>>321123795
Supposedly, it plays like a cross between Apocalypse and UFO Aftershock, without the former's incomprehensibility or the latter's batshit insane story.
>>321108006
it will be the best game of all time
>>321123903
oh i though the first dlc was gonna take them til summer
>I don't think they're doing a console port right now
oh come on
its pretty obvious that its a delayed console release and /v/ will start shitposting xcom threads with goldface when it happens
>>321123862
>that wasn't announced before release of EU
So your problem isn't about what the game is like, but about what people say about the game.
>EU which was a good game on it's own
There is no indication that XCOM 2 won't be.
>what they did with xcom 2 is sell cut game for 60$
Nah, they're not. Or at least, not any more than Enemy Unknown was cut. Did you know that the MEC flamethrower and kinetic fist evolved out of cut weapon/breaching tool ideas?
>>321124069
>saliva/blood/etc on the camera
i really hate when games do this for some reason
>>321123898
>snek dissection cutscene
>snek capture cutscene
>>321124069
i have a pet snek so I cant into fapping to sexy snakes when Ive seen in person how fucking nasty they can be, when it shits in a tub of water and regurtitates a mouse and its piss and shit smell disgusting and its just fucking gross
>>321116027
I think it's fine to just save at the start of every level and restart if you get squadwiped.
>>321108006
Why would you compare this to Bloodborne? They're two completely different games.
Do you think it was created solely to beat a PS4 exclusive?
Do you think this incredibly niche-genre'd game will outsell Bloodborne?
>>321123795
There's no airgame,
your base is a giant cargo ship,
geoscape is much more active than any previous xcom game and has some systems similar to FTL,
base defense is a regular mission type that happens if the cargo ship is shot down,
missions have objectives outside of killing everything,
your staff have names and aren't just a scientist/ engineer count,
Pistols have been removed and only the sniper class has one now but it has infinite ammo and is only used in abilities and overwatch,
overwatch has been redone to look fucking baller
Enemies drop loot that has to be picked up within a turn limit like meld
Loot can either be soldier enhancements(+HP/ mobility/ aim), resources like alloys, gun attachments or canisters for a repeatable project that gives you a random type of grenade/ armor/ ammo type.
dat censorship
>>321124692
lmao keep that salt on piss 4 boy
our pc exclusive could beat your baby toy any day of the week
>>321124814
>Deleting shitposting is censorship
>>321124727
>Pistols have been removed
>>321124870
>having time to do it for free
yeah totally worth $75
>>321123862
The only difference between EW and the Reinforcement pack is 10$ and that one was announced before their respective game came out and the other wasn't.
>>321124727
>and is only used in abilities and overwatch
Only in the sense that firing it is a different action from firing the rifle, so you don't have to switch weapons all the time. You don't have to use Lightning Hands in order to fire the revolver.
>>321124908
to be honest I think I used the pistol on very few occasions.
>>321124134
EU sold hilariously bad on consoles so it's a definite possibility that they never port it. There's nothing indicating that they're working on one right now and all the UI looks very monitor friendly rather than TV friendly (ie: it's fucking small).
>>321124692
EU did 2.7mil+
Bloodborne broke 2 million in September
They're both niche games.
>>321124908
Yeah, that's a change I'm not really happy with either.
I wonder if it's an indication that there won't be any alien interrogations this time around.
>>321125135
Do consolefags even play games like xcom?
They're pretty fucking thick, I doubt it sold well on consoles compared to pc.
>>321125097
Point me to a video or screencap where a soldier who isn't a sniper uses a pistol, or even just has an inventory slot where a pistol could go. You can't.
>>321125332
My bad, I swear I saw pistols in the inventory set up but I just checked the video and yeah the slot is missing.
>>321125073
Yeah, I mostly just used it to reduce the health of enemies I wanted to capture, and that's probably why they removed it. But I'd still like soldiers who've run out of ammo to be able to do something.
What are the chances that there will be some reference to people talking about snek tats so much in game?
>>321125073
i found it very useful even on non-snipers
im actually interested to see how the balance is made when you fuck up and waste a turn reloading when you have no sidearm to switch to when you wanted to finish off an aylmao with just 1 hp left
>>321125325
no they dont. its a mouse and keyboard game
>>321125557
Then again apparently reloading is less costly now, because it doesn't end the turn.
>>321125557
ya thats actually the times I remember using it and still killing everything by accident.
>>321125325
Nah, it bombed really hard on consoles, the 2.7 million is from accounts that own it on steam I think.
>>321125643
I play it with a controller. It's a demographic thing, not a hardware thing.
>>321125643
Not even the problem, console players are too young or casual for strategy/tactics, round based no less
>>321125642
Well, for starters, reloading doesn't end the turn any more. But I think what's going to be really powerful in those situations is the specialist's combat protocol ability. Deals two damage, four against robots, ignores armor, can hit any target anyone can see.
>>321125073
Pistols were so good for conserving ammo and getting XP on the right soldiers. Also good for when my assault is far away because shotgun overwatch is always garbage, and for snipers without snap shot.
>>321125947
ghaaa you play it with a controller? jesus christ how horrifying.
>>321126181
what about melee
didnt they add melee weapons?
>>321126260
Yeah, the ranger class gets a sword. Deals good damage, high accuracy, can be used after dashing.
>>321126226
I play literally everything with a controller.
Even games that don't have native controller support.
Don't deny the comfiness factor.
>TFW you will never send like 30 rookies into the trenches
>TFW combat will never be interesting because you'll only run into one or two groups at a time
>>321126370
>high accuracy
I thought all melee attacks were guaratneed hits. Otherwise whats the point?
Also I'm disappointed they scrapped the air game instead of trying to improve it. There was a lot of potential there, and it was a significant element in XCOM EU (even if it was kind of half-assed)
>>321126530
oh hell no. I cant be on board with that. I love playing console ports with it but wtf man.
>>321126950
They're not guaranteed, but they're in the ninety percent range. I don't think I've seen one miss yet.Apparently, Mutons will be able to parry and counterattack with their bayonets.
http://strawpoll.me/6342774
http://strawpoll.me/6342774
http://strawpoll.me/6342774
http://strawpoll.me/6342774
>>321126950
Well yeah.
In a realistic world/game they have limited utility in some scenarios, what with not having a whole bunch of penetration or damage potential compared to a gun.
Even a shitty gun is very competitive with a sword.
Conceivably, melee in this context would be good for stealth, mostly.
Also for weird aliens that were highly resistant to energy weapons. (actually not completely impossible. You could legit have armor that was almost useless against melee, but good against energy.)
Well that, and non lethal takedowns if you didn't have a taser or stun rod.
Obviously not a good idea for any Mutons/Muton tough aliens present, who would merely laugh at you, and gun down your team of guys punching them in the head or swinging swords.
That, or punch THEM back, and like, break their necks/faces.
>>321127158
Goddamnit.
I'm really going to miss Mecs too. Punching shit was just so satisfying. I remember one time on the bridge of an abductor, my stupid rookie (well, squaddie) missed a close range shot and blew a hole in the side of the hull. So I had my Mec run up to the muton and melee it to death - he ended up punching the green bastard right out the side of the ship, doing a double cartwheel and landing at the base of a tree. I kek'd good when that happened.
>>321124484
I do the same.
>>321127597
Slicing up ayys with a fucking lightsaber while wearing an exosuit seems like it should be pretty satisfying, too.
>>321127330
>mfw someone mods in Rhodesia to countries you can recruit soldiers from
>>321108006
/v/ will hype it up and intentionally give it good user scores
>>321128854
>/v/ is everyone on the internet.
goober.
>>321116650
he didnt even say it was good,you're just making shit up
>X-com now gets to commit the terror missions against the aliens
>No soldier class that runs up, infects aliens, and then has a fully grown X-Com trooper pop out 3 turns later
Untapped potential.
>>321129091
>infects aliens
Make it "infect the civilians" instead. They are in the levels afterall.
>>321129420
They aren't civilians in my eyes anymore.
>>321129528
Just bomb the shit out of the ones that can't be affected.
Looks like taking cover on the roof can bite you in the ass against certain enemies.
>>321129837
Yeah, they mentioned that explosions will now blow up roofs/ceilings, not to mention units will fall and obviously take falldamage.
>>321124727
no airgame?
But i thought they said something about it a few months back
>>321129837
Can collapsing roofs do damage to things beneath them?
>>321129837
good it was a bullshit tactic.
>>321126226
It works fine with a controller. I played it originally on the PC, but I later bought it on the PS3 so I can lay in bed playing it.
>>321134924
IIRC the only thing you can't do with a controller is select a unit that's already moved. Normally this isn't a big concern but it can make a difference with the Close Combat Specialist perk, because you can still order a unit that's out of moves to switch weapons.
>>321134924
its turned base so I'm sure it does but damn moving a curser around with a controller disgusting.
