TALES OF BERSERIA IS A PREQUEL TO ZESTIRIA
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN TALES WAS FUCKED FOREVER
http://www.siliconera.com/2015/12/22/tales-of-berseria-takes-place-in-the-past-world-of-tales-of-zestiria/
Doesn't change how interesting the trailer looked, don't see why people give a shit.
>>321101238
Welp. Who /SO5/ here?
>>321101376
>modern tales fan
>Compared to the future (in Zestiria) the scenery is vastly different, and the towns, and natural landmarks will be completely different as well; however, there are some places and civilization that will make you recall a thing or two of the future.
So what is even the point of making it take place in the same world?
>>321101376
>interesting
generic anime cliches and zestiria's boring combat system.
The tales series is on the same level as Assasin Creed, CoD and sports games since Xillia.
Fuck Baba and fuck this fucking franchise.
If current /v/ was a thing back when ToS came out I bet we'd be seeing posts like TALES OF SYMPHONIA IS A PREQUEL TO PHANTASIA WHERE WERE YOU WHEN TALES WAS FUCKED FOREVER
>>321101698
so they can reuse assets
>>321101698
>So what is even the point of making it take place in the same world?
reusing as many assets as possible
Graphic looks like shit god they need to change the palette whatever
>>321101823
ding ding
/thread
>>321101753
In the west yeah, but there was a 3 year gap between Xillia 2 and Zestiria. And it looks like it'll be a 2 year gap between Zestiria and Berseria. That sounds pretty reasonable to me.
>>321101238
nothing wrong with zestiria's setting,that game was shit for entirely different reasons
>>321101815
>Phantasia is a good game
>Zestiria is a garbage game
whoa...
>being a tales fan after Xillia 2 maybe even after Vesperia
Tales is basically dead at this point.
Modern tales fags will defend this.
>>321102089
>zestiria releases 2015
>berseria releases 2016
>>321101815
Phantasia is a good game.Zestiria is different story now lol
Waiting patiently till I know everything.
Holding on to hope that it turns out okay.
>>321101238
It's okay, anon.
They can't cuck your waifu before she's born. You don't have to worry.
>Finally, the characters designers from Tales of Zestiria in Mutsumi Inomata, Kosuke Fujishima, Daigo Okumura, and Minoru Iwatamoto are the character designers for Tales of Berseria.
STOP. No more of this shit! One character designer per game. All you're doing is causing inconsistency. If I had my way it'd just be Fujishima from now on, but if they're going to continue to use all of them, one at a time please.
Don't care
All I want is a better battle system, but,
>Entering battle will follow the same smooth transition as seen in Tales of Zestiria
Not a good start. I just want to do combos properly is that asking for too much?
>>321101619
Not him but we love what we love
>>321101238
/ss/ has already gotten me committed to a preorder. The rest is irrelevant.
>>321102401
Zestiria came out in fucking January and Berseria doesn't even have a release date. I think it's fair to say that it'll come out pretty late 2016.
>>321101619
A "modern tales fan" would be complaining that it's too edgy and not gay enough.
>>321102929
>picture of 3 half naked men
Yep with a fanbase like this no wonder this series has turned crap
>>321103209
>not liking half naked men
lol what's it like to be such a faggot
>>321101529
SO has had 2 really bad games in a row. I can't be optimistic, even if I want to be.
>>321101815
>8 years between Phantasia and symphonia release
>Transition from 2D to 3D
>Completely different gameplaywise
>Berseria to Zestiria
>Zestiria isnt like at all. People want to get away from Zestiria
>one year between the games
>same graphics and battle system
>>321103209
Think you mean better.
>>321103203
Most likely Q2. the point is that tales is now an annualized franchise like all the best series like COD.
>The combat will never be this good again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1N8n90rNIQ
>>321103312
lol, SO has literally never had a bad game.
>>321101238
>make the game a prequel
>perfect excuse for them so they can just reuse assets all they want
BASED BABA
>>321103204
Modern tales fans are already excited over the bishie line up and shota.
>>321101238
>original; interview states it's 3000+ years in the past
>implying Zest will matter in anyway with this kind of time gap
Who cares it can still be good on it's own.
>>321101815
Tales games weren't in such a questionable state back then, so your analogy is shit
>>321103209
>not appreciating male beauty
>>321104210
You've ruined his ass with jpg artifacts
Zestiria isn't a good entry in the tales series gameplay-wise and story-wise
no tales fan would accept the garbage that is zestiria had they not have played other tales games
making a prequel to a game almost all the fans don't like is the worst decision they could've made
but hey, at least they'll have an easier time making this game, reusing the xillia engine along the zestiria assets, why should try harder to make a better game? for the fans' sake?
we expected more from the tales team that they would be able to remind us why we love playing their games with each new entry to the series, now it's all to meet a deadline and putting no care or polish into anything they make, and they'll have the audacity to make any of the good stuff from zestiria and future games be bough through dlc or some other bullshit method that's piss fans off even more
what the fuck are we going to do to get this series back on track with what they had going for them, other than firing baba?
i cant wait for Velvet to set up the Assassin's guild and end up being Rose's ancestor
>>321102582
>mfw berseria has time travel with shota's huge macguffin watch and you can erase alisha from existence
>>321104060
>Who cares it can still be good on it's own.
The best way to assure us of this is to distance yourself as much from zestiria as possible.
I dont give a shit about taking place in the same world or being a distant prequel or whatever. But now that gameplay features are starting to become visible its more and more looking like zestiria 2
>>321102929
>>321103367
>>321104210
So the fanbase only has either faggot or fujoshits? Also including pedophiles that like emotionless kids.
The story of all tales games are shit and most caracters are shit, just like the shit modern fanbase that started with either xillia or zesteria.
>already a new tales game
>pretty much a new game every year
>half of them re-use assets from the previous game
No wonder it's been shit post vesperia
>>321104418
>we
Speak for yourself random faggot.
That game had issues but nothing is wrong with them reusing the lore, which was fine.
>>321104649
Even if they did that you still don't now if the game will be good until it comes out. I don't listen to dev talk anymore they are always full of shit I'll wait for player reaction.
>>321104765
You can stop posting that fake chart anytime now
So how are the Japanese taking the news?
Are the diehards screaming at them yet?
>>321104686
Oh come on Anon. Just enjoy the ride. I mean it's not like Tales is the only game that it's happening to.
>>321101376
>Doesn't change how interesting the trailer looked
It changes everything and now even my interest has plummeted.
>>321104434
Did you even play Zestiria or are you part of some dedicated shitposting brigade
Rose isn't out to get you.
>>321104686
Yes. You have neptunia, atelier and senran kagura don't you?
Xillia 2 managed to be not shit even though 90% of it was reused assets. Berseria could still be good, right? /v/?
![DsXYn11h[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zyWFbW2.jpg "DsXYn11h[1].jpg")
>>321104686
Modern /v/ is pretty entertaining once you learn what the trick to the whole thing is.
>>321105330
>Trusting them
>>321105330
>Xillia 2 managed to be not shit
In which fractured dimension?
>>321101238
Jesus christ.
When's the next Tales of? That one might be good, r-right?
>>321105523
Our own, where X2 is the best Tales.
>>321101376
>Doesn't change how interesting the trailer looked
How did that look interesting?
>>321104686
In all honesty the most homolust by the fanbase is between flynn and Yuri
>>321105523
>>321105524
If some Baba has a emotional breakdown and takes some time of then maybe
>>321101376
>that trailer
>looking interesting
Maybe it will surprise me when it actually comes out but I felt completely bored by everything related to this game aside from how hilarious Velvet looks. Zero hype from day one. I never felt so indifferent about a tales game trailer.
>>321105712
>Namco had to take Yuri out of all the polls because he was too popular
This is the path Namco chose.
>>321104931
I mean i enjoyed Tales of symphonia dawn of the new world, graces f, hearts r, vesperia. Started with Destiny but i after playing Xillia i couldnt handle it anymore. Played Star ocean and loved it. None of the stuff i said earlier happen in the series and its really fun. Hyped for SO5 and not this bullcrap.
>>321105284
Only played escha and logy and didnt finish shallie. Cant bring myself to playit. Hate every compile shit games. Never played Senran Kagura.
>>321105863
>I never felt so indifferent about a tales game trailer.
It felt like a teaser to a real trailer, or just something they cut together really quick to show something for it. But man, if that's how it's looking right now, they really shouldn't bother.
What the fuck is wrong with letting these games cook a for a little longer rather than throwing them out there as soon as it's touched the grill?
Why couldn't they just port Xillia 2 to PC instead? It's the only Tales game with non-retarded character designs and has the best combat in the series by far.
>>321104434
Rose a shit but I'm pretty sure the assassin guild was made after the mercenary band was betrayed so that's not happening.
>>321105284
>oh fuck Noctis was here
>>321101238
Holy shit. There is no saving this game.
ABANDON ALL HOPE YE WHO THOUGHT BERSERIA COULD POSSIBLY BE GOOD
>>321101238
Eh. They can always improve on the camera and equipment system in this entry and there's nothing terrible about the setting or story in zestiria. Gameplay had the most hiccups for me.
I don't see the big deal about it being a prequel at all. It will help flesh out zestiria which had a lot of potential but was clearly rushed and the game itself will already have a wealth of backstory. I hope the characters aren't neglected from development, but
>modern jrpgs
Now if they don't improve on the issues from before then it's a problem, but you won't know that till it's out. That said I'm still not too interested in the game before or after this revelation. SO5/FFXV/P5 still have most of my attention.
>>321107425
>clearly rushed
So this is a thing now? Xillia did it with Xillia 2 and now he's doing it again? How the fuck can anyone defend this?
>>321101238
Fine, fine. Seen it, seen it.
The Tales series are fated to die soon.
FOR THE SAKE OF HIDEOUS HIDEO BABA!
>>321107639
>no IP change
why
Almost all Tales games are annual you just forgot.
>>321107891
>it took 3 years to make the garbage that is Zestiria
Annual or not this is clearly not the problem with the tales of team.
>>321105524
Nope. Tales team is losing its remaining veterans and Baba is a lazy fuck.
Prequel to Zestiria sure, but why the same fucking continent? Or maybe we'll get to see more of the other continents due to having a pirate ship?
DROPPED
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P
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>tfw one of the last good jrpg series is officially dead
>Berseria is nearing release
>New cute character is revealed to be an ancestor of Alicia's and toted as one of the main heroines
>People are cautiously optimistic as the game is released
>Said character disappears early on and doesn't return for the rest of the game
>Games has DLC out the ass
>Tales fans' collective face when they realized Baba cucked them once again
All I want from Berseria is that it doesn't force the same 2 people in the party. I want any combination of players.
>>321108926
If alishafags haven't killed themselves yet and get hyped over some shit waifu AGAIN you deserve to get cucked
>people actually think there will be /ss/ in this game
>not realizing that girly boy shota will be gay
>>321109747
Too good to be true.
>>321109747
He will be asexual or something because no emotion. Tales may have gay/yuri or straight ship bait but they won't do outright pedo. /ss/fags are delusional.
Especially when knowing how the series panders to women/fujoshi who while thinking the shota is cute do not sexualize him.
>>321109747
The majority want the gay option, only faggots want /ss/ because they have mommy issues.
>>321108417
Tales has only ever been mediocre as fuck
>tfw when there will always be a retarded gimick making 4 player not a viable option.
Vesperia and graces f were the last time I got to have fun with friends.
>>321110442
I thought I was the only one who cared about multiplayer in Tales games
>>321109747
There is always at least one joke skit between most party members that imply romance as a joke. That once scene will be enough for my /ss/ boner.
>>321111176
>playing tales of symphonia with my older brother
>playing as this faggot
>I had to play as Colette because we couldn't get past a boss without using her sacrifice ability
>felt so humiliated that I had to play as the girl
>now would probably choose to play as her
Good times, miss him
>>321111818
bet you sucked your brothers dick too.
>>321111818
>tales made you a faggot
Damn
>>321110152
I do wonder if yaoi can trump /ss/. I mean they are going full on gay for a bit. I mean I'm sure the female audience would love /ss/ too but I would love it if they really do go full on shota gay love.
>>321111176
Finished Symphonia, DotNW, Abyss, Vesperia, GracesF, both Xillias and Zestiria as multiplayer.
Doing second playthroughs on most.
Of all those games I've only touched the single player in Symphonia. It was my first Tales game and this was before I got my friends to join in.
What do I need to sacrifice to Baba for him to make multiplayer great again?
I'm playing Symphonia and I feel like the bonus unison attack is limiting my party make up since there are not as many combination attacks as I thought.
>>321112028
>>321112004
lmao, no. I just prefer playing female cause I like beating shit up as a girl more than a boy. Unless its Yuri then I'm fine with it cause Yuri is cool as shit.I actually went full on /u/
>>321114156
>I like beating shit up as a girl more than a boy.
Sounds like a feminist
>/u/
You're homo and will start wearing dresses and hating your own gender
>>321114156
These games any good?
Been thinking of trying them out but they seem generic as fuck.
>>321114997
Recommend Tales of Vesperia, Yuri Lowell doesn't take shit, he kills bad guy and doesn't afraid of anything
>>321114997
>they seem generic as fuck
Oh they are. The best game this series has is Vesperia but even ten that's just a 7/10 with a shitty story.
If you aren't a waifufag there really is no reason to play these games. Best off playing other RPGs
>>321114997
>>321115189
>>321115220
Thanks I'll check Vesperia out.
If i don't like it i'll just drop this series altogether.
>>321114997
You play them for the gameplay nerd boy.
Also don't start with vesperia because then you try to play any of the other games and spend the whole time wondering why it isn't like vesperia.
>>321114997
Honestly they are pretty generic. You can get better gameplay in any star ocean, you can get fun gameplay and casts in persona and you can get better setting in FF so I don't know what the selling point of tales is aside from gay.
>>321101376
The trailer only proves how much it looks like Zesteria with different characters.
Talk about delusional
Tales of "X" will never get a PC release or a remake.
Which?
BABAMCO STRIKES AGAIN
ITS PART OF THE CHALLENGE
NO ITS NOT US, ITS YOU
GET A NEW PS3, ARE GAME AIN'T BROKEN
ROSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>321115978
Phantasia
Not even the PSX version, the PSP one is shit
Yo senpai how you like that cut content?
>>321115670
>star ocean has better gameplay
>things that have never been true
>>321114997
Play Symphonia then Vesperia and maybe Graces for the gameplay.
I you don't like it by Vesperia might as well drop it.
The story is shit and characers aint nothing special. Waifus only reason I play this shit.
>>321115670
>I don't know what the selling point of tales is aside from gay
Neither do I
Guess fujos want something to occupy their time till persona or whatever comes out.
The only thing I want back from Graces his how mystic arts were handled. Getting a free one for reaching a certain combo was satisfying and you got to use them often.
>>321101376
It looked like a reskinned zest with more red, edge, more boys and only one girl.
>>321116348
>Tales
>mash Attack and any Artes to win
>Star Ocean
>strategic long and short range mechanics for attack skills
>1 and 2's in-depth skill system with crafting, cooking, alchemy, writing, music while most Tales only ever have Cooking
>lots of optional party members
>SO3 having overall one of the funnest combat systems in any action RPG
>>321101238
Hey, the game is being localized! Isn't that what you all wanted?
>>321117209
Which star ocean is best to start with? I want to get 5 when it comes out, looks good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX_4PP-uQVk
JUDITH IS THE BEST VESPERIA
>>321117501
My VAfu is the MC so yeah I'm good, honestly don't care how shit the game is since DA is confirmed.
>Start series with english rom of Phantasia
>Game is incredible, despite the translation's misgivings
>Play Destiny & Eternia
>even better
>Destiny 2 & Symphonia come out
>Not quite but still fantastic
>Amid some other horrors, Destiny R and Rebirth come out
>After Destiny R, watch series slowly crash and burn like the Hindenburg
it hurts to live
>>321115319
>this list
>>321117563
1's remake on the PSP is good to start with.
Then 2 on either PS1 or PSP.
If you want full 3D, 3 isn't too bad to start with just be aware that the story and characters are somewhat shit and it has a big plot twist at the end that may or may not shift your perspective on the other games.
>>321117806
Vesperia was made when final fantasy was well into their trainwreck
I always thought tales would be able to avoid the modern day jrpg apocalypse
>>321117563
Star Ocean 2 is best for crafting, and decent combat, and semi-decent story.
Star Ocean 3 is great for combat, with absolute shit crafting and story.
>>321117806
Every time I attempted to play tales I either fell sleep and forgot it or sell it after a few boring hours
It sounds like the series just isn't for you either
>>321101238
Okay, I think I gotta ask.
Why do Talesfags like this series so much?
I mean Fantasyfags have the huge popularity, edgy angsty teenage characters, melodrama and changing gameplay
Questfags have the artstyle, the comfy, the simple greatly executed stories and a simple consistent gameplay.
What is Tales even about? Never heard of this shit before. Is it like that Chopin game? Moonlight Sonata or whatever?
>>321118269
>the series isn't for you
dude I started at the beginning it did used to be for me
>>321118454
It's one of the like three series that is just usually about going on some kind of adventure with a cast of unlikely heros. FF has been dead for like 8 years now and the west doesn't get Dragon Quest.
I like following a narrative and even if the ending ends up being shit the journey was more important to me.
>>321118454
Same reason you play any other jrpg really, long story with lots of dialogue, in it for the long ass adventure with these characters.
>>321118454
1. JRPGs with fun combat, multiplayer even in most circumstances.
2. Fun, light-hearted adventures
Those are the biggest draws for me, I can barely play other JRPGs because they tend to fall into one of two camps of combat styles: MMO "click on an enemy and watch your guy attack for a while" combat, or turn based, neither of which appeal to me.
>>321118454
It's another mid tier jrpg series. You play one you played them all. The fanbase is obsessive and hyping a shit series like trailsfags because it's the hipster thing to like unpopular series.
>>321118845
>that is just usually about going on some kind of adventure with a cast of unlikely heros.
How is this a unique aspect?
>>321103312
3 wasn't a bad game.
From a gameplay perspective neither was 4 but that's a whole other can of worms
>>321119305
Why is Zestiria considered a bad game?
>>321118454
There's nothing really stand out about it. I never got it either but even shittier series have it's fans.
>>321118845
>>321118990
>>321119012
>>321119036
Thanks, senpaitachi.
>>321119416
Shitty combat compared to most tails of games, and the Alisha/Rose incident.
>Still giving a shit about Tales
It would take an investment like Vesperia for me to care
>>321119287
He didn't ask why it or even if it was unique the question was why I liked playing them. I like going on adventures with fun characters in a world not the kind that want to have gay sex with you all the time like in Bioware games.
>>321119416
Did you misquote?
Either way I haven't played Zesty.
But the common complaints are the terrible camera, the watered down Graces f combat, a long list of technical fuck ups and that Alisha incident
>>321119416
It's game systems are objectively flawed to sometimes just plan non functional. Story/setting/characters is all up for personal debate.
Tales used to be made by two seperate teams. Who worked independantly of each other and esentially gave each game a two year dev cycle despite the games being an almost annual series
Team Symphonia and Team Destiny
Team Symphonia did Symphonia, Abyss, Besperia and most of the super popular Tales games
Team Destiny did Destiny. graces, Hearts and such
Starting with Xillia scamco just merged them both into one and then forced the one team to just contine making games anually. Thats why Tales is shit now
>>321119416
Well because its a bad game on a technical and design level. I would say the story and characters are lackluster even by tales standards but that just invites shitposting.
>>321119416
Finished it recently, it's just an average game. It's not something to fanatically adore or hate.
>>321101753
Like it or not those games have at least a minimum standard to follow and knows damned well that they can not fuck up
Bamco will continue to shit out garbage and shove that hateful garbage into their long gone audiences face in hopes of making them like this fuck up.
Even fucking acti isn't this arrogant and stupid.
>>321101238
>http://www.siliconera.com/2015/12/22/tales-of-berseria-takes-place-in-the-past-world-of-tales-of-zestiria/
well fuck
>>321120169
Wasn't there a third team at one point too?
>>321104765
>that chart
but that's wrong
>>321104838
>You can stop posting that fake chart anytime now
do I detect salt?
>>321121563
You mean Team Melfes? That was a one time thing.
It was made of SC members.
>>321101238
why is this bad exactly?
>>321122129
that means it's tied to that crappy game
and watch as the MC of Bearsia turns out to be Rose's ancestor or some bullshit like that.
>>321122228
So what? They fixed everything wrong with Xillia on the second one though.
>>321122228
every tales story is usually shit or meh at best who cares?
>>321101238
Remove Baba.
why is this hack still in charge?
>>321122431
true
but Zesteria is way worse than Xillia
GUYS, WHAT IF
>Velvet is Jude and Milla daugher, she look alike
>Berseria happens
>soon later is Zestiria
think of the bullshit if every tales game is connected
>>321121563
Well I suppose there was Wolf Team
Haha, awesome!
Great way to justify asset reuse guys.
>>321123073
>>321122065 got it right, that's the one I was thinking of. I just forgot whether or not they were still a thing after Legendia.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria
Why is the combat shit in this one ? I have no idea it looks different but the last tales game i played was symphonia please enlighten me about that.
Also how's the framerate situation on the pc port ?
>>321123054
want to be doubleteamed by cheria and judith tbqh
>>321123535
I see.
>>321123409
It won't
Baba will hear the fans and fix zestiria combat, tales team don't miss twice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7z-GhDe7XM
:3
>>321101238
Not even a shitty sequel, but a fucking prequel! FUCK THIS SERIES!
>>321123741
isnt that shit basically gold already, how is he gonna fix it ?
I'm playing tales of symphonia right now and I've been wondering how you learns tech skills?
Raine is lvl 18 right now and wont learn photon, it is in her tech list but it is blue.
I've checked some FAQs but they just tell me that there is no requirement to learning photon except your level, unlike other techs where you have to use X skill X times to learn the next one.
So how do I learn skills without requirments?
>>321115319
Is Hearts R really that good?
>>321124036
If I remember correctly, it really is just a random learn. Keep spamming spells and she'll eventually do it.
Question: is every game related to each other? or it's like FF?
I've never been interested in neither of them, but I watched Berseria's trailer and gameplay wise looks interesting.
>>321124707
>Question: is every game related to each other?
outside of direct sequels (Symphonia games and XIllia games) they are not connected.
but there are references from previous games and you can fight people from previous games as optional bosses
>>321115319
This is the dumbest shit ever. Xillia 2 doesn't replace Xillia 1. If you played 2 before 1, you're a fucking dumbass and did it wrong.
>>321124434
list is awful ignore it
>>321115319
Is Tales of Destiny Remake translated yet?
>Vesperia PS3 will never be localized
I remember playing the 360 game and loved it, hold my urge to replay in hopes of a localization of the PS3 version and welp
>>321119416
Story and characters were pretty bland honestly, not bad, but nothing that made me really care all that much about them.
Combat was pretty eh, playing as any other character but the human ones meant you were essentially gimping yourself.
Music was good, field map design was an improvement from Xillia.
Overall not an awful game, but not something I would write home about.
>>321119526
>>321119819
>Alisha/Rose incident
Is this where Alisha was marketed as the heroine but we got Rose instead or is it story related?
>>321126854
Havent played it yet butAlisha gets kidnapped off screen near the quite early into the game but its also obvious that baba got rid of her as a last minute decision, merchants sell her weapons in areas that you cant even access while you still have her and until end game
>>321124707
>or it's like F
But Final Fantasy is all related.
Mysidia in IV is from II
Kain from IV is descended from Ricard
The dwarves from I, IX, IV, and V
The princess play in VII is referring to Rosa in IV (Kain being the dragon and Cecil's gay relationship with him)
In VIII there is a shop run by Cloud's descendant called "Cloud's Shop"
Final Fantasy I is the prequel to IX, Gilgamesh travels from V to XII, XIV and Type-0 as well as the Dissidia series being canon
>>321127342
I'm not that much of a fan, and I barely follow Tales news, but goddan all I hear from Baba is retarded things, why is he still in charge?
>>321125990
Hopefully a PS4 port happens because that would encourage Bandai Namco to do a localization of it.
>>321101823
Five bucks says they were gonna reuse assets even if berseria wasnt a prequel
>>321101238
It should have been a sequel to Xillia.
Would have been more fun if it turned out you were playing as the rebellious, edgy daughter of Jude and Millia, who desperately wants the attention of her workaholic MD father and absentee Great Spirit mother.
Got star ocean and ff15 coming out next year so not a big loss. Hopefully this sells like shit and they give me Vesperia.
>tales
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>>321128558
>looking forward to Star Ocean after how bad 3 and 4 were
>>321121960
>Bullshit makes people salty
How stupid do you need to believe to assert this?
>>321101238
And in one fell swoop Baba kills all hype.
Are you ready for Time Travelling Rose?
>>321128806
do you have any proof that the chart is fake?
>>321128715
are any of the team making it the same people?
>>321114997
They kinda are, but doesn't stop some of them to be good. Sometimes something simple is the best you could have.
>>321129135
>are any of the team making it the same people?
no idea but the series is tainted due to the bad reputation the last two games got.
It's like that Hellbalde game, who cares how it is, it will be shunned due to the developers (Ninja Theory, aka the fucks who raped DMC)
>>321129010
someone just posted the original somewhere
Zestitira was fine.
Just let me play with more than two characters this time.
>>321101238
Annnnnnnd what's so bad about this....?
>>321129931
read the fucking thread
>>321129931
People hate Zestiria.
>>321129931
People just want to forget Zestiria ever happened and Baba pulls this FFXIII shit on us
>>321130020
>DROPPED
>FIRE BABA
>TALES IS DEAD
>ALL HYPE GONE
Yeah, tells me a whole lot.
>>321130124
>>321130318
Who cares? Berseria looks different from Zestiria.
>>321130454
They're re-using the same shitty battle system/camera
>>321130454
Not by a whole lot.
The fact that it is a prequel to Zestiria is kinda of an indication that it might turn into another shipwreck.
>>321130318
>Baba pulls this FFXIII shit on us
But Zestiria and Berseria seems to take place thousands of years apart. It doesn't even really matter much that it takes place on the same world.
Baba's only good fucking games were the ones NOT Tales of games.
>>321130623
The article in OP didn't say that. Is it true?
>>321130783
I guess we won't know until the game is released.
>>321130841
go back 2 /gif/
>>321130889
Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that it might turn off people, just like you see in this thread.
>>321130889
Here's the thing anon, NO ONE IN THE WEST has any liking for Baba, he cockblocked us from localizations for the longest time and he rushes every single game now
>>321130454
No it doesn't you stupid steambicile
>>321104418
I completely agree. I seriously can't imagine how ANYONE could enjoy Zestiria even if you haven't played other tales games, that shit is just plain bad
>>321127831
Because they put a fraction of the effort into new releases compared to what they had to for Vesperia and make somewhat comparable sales. Why work harder for the same or barely any more money?
>>321131001
>>321131182
That's stupid as hell
/v/ is stupid as hell.
>>321103463
fuck
how do I get good at tales?
>>321121813
>Tales of Xillia 2 winning over Tales of Destiny 2
Feel free to kill yourself any time now.
>>321106225
>It's the only Tales game with non-retarded character designs
Okay I don't get it, is this a meme?
There are simple steps to not make Berseria shit.
>don't force Seraphs to humans
>being able to change your on screen character
>have the characters actually play differently
Who thought it was a good idea to make all the Seraph mostly one element casters?
>>321132583
Baba.
I thought Zestiria was great, really enjoyed it. Well, when the camera wasn't shitting itself.
And I'm not a Tales scrub, I've played every single english-translated one.
>>321129931
Retards sperging over nothing when we barely know how the game system will be like yet.
>>321101238
Going to enjoy this like I did with Zestiria. Cry more /v/ :^)
>>321132583
There's only one seraph character so it will likely not have the same mechanics. Plus Velvet is part hellion or something and not a shepherd. Maybe they'll add an option for you to armatize with the blonde guy and shota if you so wish.
>>321132954
>I thought Zestiria was great
Then you have exceptionally bad taste anon.
>>321133317
That's okay. I can live with enjoying things everyone hates.
>>321133253
>There's only one seraph character
>Velvet
>shota
>samurai
>knight-san
Tales are mostly ~8 character parties.
>armatize
I doubt they will give you armatize. Looks like Velvet will later be able to transform into a Werewolf or some shit.
>>321131589
To you. Plenty of people enjoyed Zestiria and will be buying Berseria because they want to go back into the world.
>>321101238
>tfw i will buy Berseria CE and all DLC released for it, just like i did with previous tales games
>>321133497
I enjoyed Zestiria as well. But I can totally see all the shortcomings and problems with the game.
>>321101238
>Zestiria assets copy-pasted just like Xillia 2
Yep. I'm no longer interested.
>>321133562
What anime crossover costumes do you think they will do with Berseria? Will they finally do Idolm@ster Side-M cameo costumes?
Who will get the inevitable Leon/Yuri costume?
>>321133573
So can I, but I'm not going to color code it as shit just because I can see such shortcomings. I think for the most part it was an enjoyable game that had alot of lore that deserved more delving into and I'm happy we will be getting it in Berseria.
>>321133872
Isn't Berseria playing on the other continent though?
>>321133317
Serious question: why are you still here? It's clear by now Bamco is sticking with the setting and not moving away anytime soon.
I mean, I have a lot of issues with it as well, but I'm curious about where they'll go with it cause I still liked a fair amount about it.
>>321104686
>>321133968
I hope they have some sci-fi elements in Berseria.
I always liked the Tales of series for fusing fantasy and sci-fi.
What element is he? Lightning?
Do you think we'll see a young Zenrus? Or Lailah traveling with a random shepherd before said shepherd fucks something over royally again?
>>321105458
Being a cynical asshole or hearing nothing but shit all the time?
>>321133664
We can already assume that many costumes will be Japan only again. Getting jp version of the game too though.
>>321133968
Why are you defending Zestiria?
And not I wasn't shit talking the setting or anything.
Just the fact it's really, really bad
>>321101238
>female mc
and dropped
>>321117983
I'd recommend not playing the 2nd one on PS1 just because of the terrible voice acting and if you try to skip the battle results, the game usually crashes.
>>321134605
Good, don't let the edge hit your ass on the way out
>>321134752
why? Don't want anyone to see how many cocks you suck while you pretend to be a girl? It's okay bubu we won't judge.
>>321134280
We only didn't get the Blue Exorcist costumes this time.
Tales is dead. We will never have a cute FeMC designed by a good artist.
>>321134586
That is some reading comprehension.
>>321133436
>Looks like Velvet will later be able to transform into a Werewolf
I'm getting flashbacks to Tempest.
>>321102349
Yep.
>Friend gets me into Tales
>Love em
>Bitch because no English releases of many
>Study Japanese (for various reason)
>At this point JRPGs are pretty easy to play in Japanese
>Tales hasn't been good since Vesperia
>>321132414
>Game that got released in the west has more votes than a game that didn't
I mean unless you want people to just lie and say they played it.
>>321136506
I would like it if I got flashbacks to the Tempest opening song. It was really good.
Tempest R fucking when?
Innocence R localization fucking when?
>couple days ago, new trailer, /v/ loses their shit, saying it's going to be good
>this comes out
>v loses their shit saying it's going to be shit
>>321134586
Learn to read
>>321137558
Those are all secondaries and shitposter. Berseria being connected to Zestiria was clear since that games reveal.
