should developers be FINED for bull shots?
no, you should be laughed at for believing them
werks on my machine
>>321099756
>it's not their fault for lying, it's your fault if you believed them
Typical corporate cocksucker
>>321099546
Someone was already sued for false advertising (for Colonial Marines I think?)
so its possible.
They can't keep getting away with it
if the publisher heavily misleads consumers like with colonial marines yes but you almost never get actually mislead since you get reviews and gameplay before buying the game
>>321101297
>it's okay to put out misleading footage as long as there's eventually non-misleading footage
>>321099546
Absolutely. It's called fraud and it's a crime.
Companies have been getting far too much latitude in regards to advertising and it really needs to stop.
>>321101548
all marketing is inherently misleading because its only goal is to make people buy the product.
>>321099995
They arr rook same
>>321101865
That makes no sense. Having a goal to sell something doesn't necessarily mean you're misleading.
>>321100162
>I'm a retard who preorders games based off of some trailers instead of properly checking what the game is like
>>321101548
It is you dumb fuck and it happens everywhere.
>hurrr durrr companies can't try to make their products look as appealing as possible
Your fucking burger won't look like this either.
>>321100793
There's nothing wrong with bullshots, only newfriends fall for them.
>>321102315
Even if no one ever fell for their lies that still doesn't make their lies ok, you shit eating corporate cocksucking cunt.
>>321099546
Yes, they should, because it's false advertising. This is forbidden, but SOMEHOW no one does anything. I hope this will change one day.
>>321099995
![pOY8loI[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/QObIt9Q.png "pOY8loI[1].png")
>>321101548
You have to know how the particular law works. As little as saying 'early footage' or 'promo image' and its not a false advertising.
I'm not even sure if promo shit on websites falls under advertisement. Ubi keeps getting away with this bullshit.
>>321102483
It would be.
>shit eating corporate cocksucking cunt
I pirate pretty much all my games ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>321102315
>look guys, mcdonalds lies about their food, that makes lying ok with me
Cancerous AND retarded.
>>321102315
A burger isn't a uniformly created product. Of course they aren't all going to look the same, it depends on the individual making them. /v/ really is the home of terrible food analogies.
>>321102804
>implying any burger you actually get served in the restaurant looks as good as in that pic
>>321102717
Who fucking cares about the law? You are actually defending blatantly lying companies because it's "technically within the law".
>>321102760
>corporate cocksuck is also a hypocrite
Surprising nobody
>>321099546
nah man. EVERYONE does it now.
>>321100793
Getting away with what?
Modifying their games so they run on the toasters people actually have?
>>321099546
no because sony would go out of business and ps4 is best girl
Should we also ban photoshop, makeup and plastic surgery?
False advertising hurts other companies more than it hurts consumers.
The only reason game publishers aren't suing each other is because they are all guilty.
>>321103079
There's a thing called LOW SETTINGS for that, you apologetic drone faggot.
>>321102995
What he's saying is that it's not illegal, anon. He's not debating whether it's morally wrong or not.
>>321103165
>dat terrible analogy
>>321103165
In china a guy sued his wife for not telling him that she got plastic surgery.
He found out because their children were ugly as fuck.
He actually won the case.
>>321103008
I don't fall for petty tricks and I don't like giving away my money for free, if that makes me a hypocrite that's fine with me.
By all means stay upset but please think about your blood pressure.
>>321103219
Not on consoles. And if the Consoles look worse (which it does 99% of the time), these faggots loose their minds.
>>321103420
So now you're defending downgrading for the sake of consoles. Even worse.
>there are people who seriously believe shit that devleopers release as trailers and official screenshots before the release of the game
>>321103219
>>321103642
please tell us more about your expert game development knowledge, expert
>>321103379
>chink has ugly kids
stop the presses.
>>321103642
I'm not defending anything. I just stated a fact.
>>321099546
Yes. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional and just accepts it because it's been done for so long.
>>321103165
>and plastic surgery
That physically IMPROVES people.
>>321103853
Facts that serve as nothing but excuses.
>>321104041
>That physically IMPROVES people.
>>321103379
>believing everything you read on the internet
Spot the newfriend
>>321103642
Bottom line is, the console experience has to be equal or the dev alienates a big part of their audience which isn't good for anyone. why should my xbox one have less performance if it costed more to buy it, it wouldnt be fair.
>>321104190
Name a single time this has happened. A console game that failed because the PC version looks better on max settings.
>>321104190
>why should my xbox one have less performance if it costed more to buy it, it wouldnt be fair.
This is bait right
>>321104041
Yeah, like that surgery to make you taller
>>321103251
>these game companies are cunts for lying
>well they're not doing anything illegal
ok? they're still cunts
>>321104437
>>321104152
Just google
>burn victime before and after plastic surgery
If that's not improvement then what the fuck is?
Not fined. That would be way too hard to control.
But reviewers should always call them out on their bullshit and make their score of the final game lower. That would make them react.
>>321104152
>>321104437
There are a million kinds of plastic surgeries and many of them can improve your body. Children.
>>321104647
What if i paid you not to?
>>321099546
Awesome that no one is calling OP out for running the lowest possible settings.
Casuals.
>>321104190
This is some shitty bait, friend. The Xbone costed $500 when it first came out, and it was weaker in moat technical aspects than the PS4, which costed $400. You basically paid more for a shittier experience.
>>321103379
That was fake, it was an advert for a cosmetics company or something.
>>321103165
Normally I'm pretty nice on here but if you're not baiting then you're an absolute fucking moron
>>321105018
>Normally I'm pretty nice on here
>>321103165
>>321103289 is right. That's a terrible analogy, If I see an attractive woman on the street and then find out she had make-up on, I'm not going to complain because I didn't pay to look at her.
>>321104869
>You basically paid more for a shittier experience.
You paid more for the NSA-peripheral.
>>321105018
TWISTED FUCKING PSYCHOPATH
>max settings vs min settings
Yawn.
>its a gamergate thread
>>321105018
>>321105303
Someone else noticed. +1 int for you.
For those of you who neve rplayed the game, the left side of the OP pic is actual max settings in-game.
>>321105080
>>321105264
Stop it you guys... Don't make me.... let the demon lose again....unsheathes
>>321099546
Not saying devs shouldn't be held accountable and forced to give refunds, but if you have been alive for the length of time it takes to reach adulthood, you should know that what you see, isn't always what you get.
There should be a stupid tax added to mandatory refunds for retards who fall for the hype.
>>321105468
Thing is, it's easy to shitpost, because Rome 2 was buggy at launch, and newfags to the series assumed it would be smooth like Shogun 2, which was a blip in CA's quality.
So now people just repeat Rome 2 is shit, I had a massive argument with a guy on another forum (yes, I know, I couldn't resist, he then got the mods onto me cause I asked if he was autistic, to which I replied "fuck you, autism isn't a disease, disgusting you think it's an insult") and he literally argued with me for 4 days that Rome 2 was shit....
Guess what? He said he has never played it. He got all his info from blogs.
That's the kind of person who inhabits /v/.
>>321105303
>>321105468
Ackshually when the game first came out you could press the intelligent zoom key and the camera would zoom way the fuck in but the unit LODs wouldn't update. They fixed that after a few patches. I know because I unfortunately played it on release.
>>321103673
*cough*cough*inb4 that Xenoblade X downgrade
>Implying they don't
These devs did the most unthinkable acts in the history of the gaming industry it's still mind-boggling to this day
>>321105947
what
>>321105804
Odd, cause I played it on launch and never had a problem. Yes, AI's clustered and never moved, but that's it.
>>321105918
>downgrade
It always looked like shit. Even in promos.
>>321105701
No. People should never be held accountable for the lies of swindling companies.
>>321106195
yo, we're talking about bullshots and downgrades here, not shitty graphics from the start. Get on topic and stop shitposting.
>>321106160
Well then you mustn't have used the intelligent zoom key much.
Why is it only Witchershills who argue their game being downgraded to fuck?
>Soulsfags
>Outraged
>Ubishills
>Outraged
>MGSV piss filter
>Outraged
>Every other downgrade thread
>Outrage
>Witcher 3 brought up
>"ONLY FAGGOTS BELIEVE BULLSHOTS"
>"THE DEVELOPERS HAD TO, NOBODY COULD RUN THAT"
Such a cancerous as fuck fanbase
>>321100793
that's just a straight up downgrade though.
>>321103379
that was fake
>>321106625
>>>Soulsfags
>>Outraged
>>Ubishills
>>Outraged
>>MGSV piss filter
>>Outraged
never happened
>>321106625
This so much. I have never seen a downgrade get defended this much. Not even sonyggers are that bad.
>>321106625
They're the new Biodrones.
>decent game franchise gets mainstream
>become obnoxious as fuck
They'll die out soon, Bioshills at least actualyl had some GOAT games to shill their company over, Witcherfucks only really have Witcher 3 and that at best was 'meh'
>>321106276
The actions of stupid people are what encourage companies to continue their disreputable behavior. Who would do this preorder bonus bullshit, gating off content based on what platform you're playing, or $40 season passes if stupid people didn't indulge? There should be a stupid tax that goes towards smart consuming education. Maybe then we wouldn't have so many retards doing shit that hurts the industry.
>>321106910
Were you not here for DS2 launch?
That trailer and skelly dragon was spammed here more than LOSS and twitter caps combined.
>>321099546
>Apple puts out ads claiming iPhone 3 is twice as fast as the previous model
>it's nowhere near twice as fast
>when sued they claim no reasonable person could expect the advertising to be truthful
Companies get away with making shit up all the time. Vitaminwater practically did the same thing too
Video games are no different
>>321099546
Eh, depends on how blatant it is.
If it's completely false (Colonial Marines), then yeah.
Otherwise, a lot of stuff gets away with bullshotting. Like anything food related.
>>321107140
>There should be a stupid tax that goes towards smart consuming education
valve did this with dota 2
they made the game free, subsidizing it with hat shit that retards pay out the ass for while smart people continue playing free forever
too bad csgo costs money to play and they don't actually make games anymore
>>321106160
Cool man I like telling lies on the internet too, what else do you lie about?
>>321106625
Only dumbfuck fanboy cocksuckers argue that the Witcher 3 downgrade was necessary and wasn't just another fucking bait and switch like with Dks2.
literally every one of these things are prefaced with not representative of the final product.
if someone outright tells you its a lie
and you believe it
>>321107140
When those people buy games that were lied about and then complain on the internet about those lies, what happens? People blame them for falling for it. This is what encourages companies to keep lying. The fact that they get away with it because "lol it's your fault for believing it".
>>321107768
Nice try Marcin
Yes bullshots should be illegal.
AlsoI find it disgusting when AAAs make a cinematic trailer consisting of ingame actions and it ends up hacing frame drops and static cameras.
>>321107225
DS2 was especially bad because it wasn't just video. The fucking beta had real lighting and they took it out without telling anyone.
>>321107406
>haven't spent a dime on Dota
>Zeus arcana comes out and it's gorgeous
Hold me
>>321108086
arcanas are like $20 right? I mean you've got at least 1000 hours on dota I'm sure, wouldn't kill you to show a little appreciation
I was talking about these fucking lobotomites that buy every arcana and every stupid book thing that comes out when the international happens
>>321107406
All that accomplishes is a cash in on stupid people who likely remained stupid.
>>321108313
good, and they can continue subsidizing free games for me for the rest of time for all I care
>>321107834
>This is what encourages companies to keep lying.
Numbers are what encourage a company to do something. If they see profits doing something shitty, and they can do it again, you can bet they will do it again. They will do it until it stops being profitable. Money talks.
That being said, negative publicity in the form of an internet campaign can also be a huge deterrent. Companies don't like negative publicity. However, EA has won worst company twice and still does shitty things. Probably because it makes them money.
>>321107957
ingame footage of....what, a tech demo that dosent represent the final product? dont be stupid. it said in-game.
in-game what.
>>321103379
>people still spreading this dumbfuck rumour as truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WMebV5qt3s
>>321107247
Who says Apple got away with it? The fact their retarded lawyer made retarded claims doesn't mean the judge just went "oh yeah he's right, who the fuck would believe ads lol, case dismissed"
>>321108472
Numbers that come with a hurtful bad reputation are not something a company would go for. They wouldn't keep lying if they didn't keep getting away with it due to consumer blaming apologists.
>>321108650
see
>>321106625
Everytime, fuck that piece of shit fanbase
>>321108313
True.
Courses on being smart with your money should be required in all schools. Of course, that would cut into company profits, so they would probably lobby hard against it, or pay some politician to strip the program of its effectiveness.
>>321108650
You are being intentionlly obtuse, and impressing no one. Stop acting aggressively stupid.
>>321099546
There are labels saying "may not be representative of final product" on these things. Y'all just idiots.
>>321108951
no, im showing you why you shouldNEVER believe a front man who dosent clarify his shit.
its LITERALLY his job to trick you into thinking what your seeing is real. in-game footage? of course. will these graphic be recreateable - when the game is released? they are already doing it now. with a tech demo
that last question, where he was SPECIFICALLY asked to do the same thing, but CLARIFY that is was indeed, ingame, with it being labelled? "not sure".
this is todds game too, man. the vast majority of things he said before fallout 3 came out were completely true. they IMPLIED things, but he hardly lied because he is a words lawyer. there IS 200 endings. it just IMPLIED more fleshed out ones, not slides. there ARE 70 voice actors. there IS radiant a.i, he just didnt say how much.
and what do we have here? a statement. "in-game footage"
of what? well, it sure as fuck is implied to be the final game. but notice it didnt actually...say it.
>>321108790
Then they'll apologize, give out a few dollars of free content, and move on. What would actually create change is money going from companies who repeatedly screw over consumers, to companies that are consumer friendly and reasonable. Assuming other companies won't just do shit to push the good one out of the market. Shaming dumb consumers probably doesn't help, but not doing it probably won't change shit. People get upset at corporations all the time, yet nothing changes.
How many times has Ubisoft been in trouble for releasing subpar games that are buggy as fuck? Yet they're still doing it. Not because they don't get flack, but because they're still making money.
Konami is literally the most hated publisher of 2015, with countless publications and youtube faggots hitting them with harsh criticism. And yet, they keep making dick moves.
>>321099546
Why do you think they always are sure to indicate the game is still in development and that the end experience may not be the same?
>>321099546
Yes
>>321109632
This.
The purchasing patterns of people are the only thing that will change the industry, and I don't see that happening soon.
>>321108669
Why don't she sue internet?
>>321112052
well, thats you too. so, youve got a week to get yourself to china to defend yours-no ones going to show up and china cant extradite you
>>321102315
FYI: The burgers typically look like shit due to the steps involved in making them
>foodslave throws down bun, applies condiments and toppings in order
>quick, but careful and precise
>places bun on top, makes sure it's all contained 360 degrees around
>gently wrap burger or place into box
>place on passthrough
>female frontstaff grabs burger with all the grace and poise of an elephant with 11 legs that has been drinking moonshine for 3 days straight and staying conscious with heroin and cocaine
>jams burger into bag with as much force as humanly possible without punching a hole through the counter
>throws fries and condiments on top, upside down
>squish all that shit into the bag even more
>let it all sit on the counter for a bit so it can get cold
>give to customer
>if customer comes to complain, make damn sure the people working in the kitchen know that it's 100% their fault
source: i worked at a dairy queen once
>>321105756
On another note in TW.
They can never ever get the fucking toggle ability to work properly.
>>321112695
My local mcdonalds is hit and miss.
Sometimes it actually looks like the picture, even at rush hour, and other times the fucking thing has bits upside down and inside out even when theres no customers in.
I once had a cheeseburger inside the big mac. As in, a burger in a burger, I didnt even know what the fuck to think
>>321107082
excuse me for being a newfag but what the heck is the definition of goat to you?
seen that popping up in other boards as well
>>321113403
Game
Of
All
Time
>>321106910
Jesus christ how new are you?
>>321099546
Yes, this is litteral false advertisement and they should be fined heavily.
Will stop charlatans like this and gear box from getting over on people.
WIll also stop the release bugged broken shit now and repair it later thing that's gotten to be the norm
I know we sued sony into paying people for the intentionally built to break quickly ps2s.
Wait...Why don't we have a class action lawsuit against these companies?
>>321113403
Greatest of all time
>>321113563
Golly here I was thinking about GOTY (which is more reasonable, no game is a game that will live on for all time, they don't make those gems anymore.)
>>321099546
Total war has always kind of been like that.
You literally need a computer that basically doesn't even exist yet to be able to run the newest total war at maximum graphics, and maintain a stable frame rate of at least 30 while fully zoomed in.
>>321105947
Something about the construction equipment reminded me about the reused assets from a different game that the war Z devs used.
Turns out that's exactly what that screenshot is.
>>321106276
>People should be held accountable when I don't like them
>People shouldn't be held accountable when I do
>>321103165
Other than the acne she honestly looks better on the left. But it's more that she went too far with the make-up.
>>321110945
please tell me this is from porn.
even if it isn't just tell me it is
>people buying games
