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So do you think giving Pokemon to a new developer would liven it up some? Like giving it to someone like Level 5?
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I just want Rune Factory - Pokemon Edition where I can build my own Pokemon gym and challenge other people's gyms. Travel the world recruiting trainers to join my hare, gym and designing fun traps and puzzles for it.
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>>321086112
Why do people always have such terrible ideas for spin offs?
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>>321086624
Because they're not serious ideas, as implied by the forced 'slip of the tongue' of nearly saying "Harem", implying that it would just be about collecting trainers that are attractive.
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>>321086624
Because they think they can 'fix' a series that they never really liked. They're also animefags who only watched the anime and think that's what defines Pokemon.

Just ignore them and call them out for their bullshit.
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>>321087150
>ignore them
>call them out
which one is it faggot
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>>321087150
If this the part where I call you a genwunner who just wants the barebones or a pikaphile who molests his pokemon in the touchy feely thing?

Either way >>>/vp/
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>>321087249
I'll ignore your ignorance and call you out for thinking you can save a series that doesn't need saving. Your MMORPG is a shitty idea, and your ultimate game with all the regions combined into one is even shittier.

>>321087672
You what?
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>>321087897
i don't play pokemon because it's not 1998
that was not my post
oh god are you using vanilla 4chan?
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>>321088127
(You)
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>>321088375
did you screenshot you replying to your own posts
is that a screnshot from /vp/
can you go back to your containment board?
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Why haven't we had a Pokemon MMO yet where everyone's trainers, gyms are single player instances, and legendaries are raid bosses?
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>>321088408
(You)
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>>321085516
Level 5 is good but I'd rather have Atlus make a Pokemon game.
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I'd get rid of Stealth Rocks.
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>>321088579
you seem to care an awful lot about a dead game for children
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>>321088849
(You)
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>>321088557
Because that's a terrible idea.
EO is the perfect example that popular single player game does not mean popular mmo, especially when you can already battle and trade with friends and random people.
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>>321085516
Giving long-lasting franchises to new developers never turns out well.

See: Castlevania, Sonic

That said, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is the true best Pokemon series. Based Chunsoft.
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I want a procedural pokemon.

Where breeding, exploration, and trading actually matter.
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>>321088968
are you trying to bump your shit thread?
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>>321088737
>getting rid of the hazard that discourages volcarona and bravest bird
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>>321085516
Give it to Tetsuya Nomura and the guy behind 10 and 13.

Then you've spiced things up

...then you desperately want to go back and never speak of this nonsense again...
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>>321089129
(You)
Either generate some discussion, or fuck off.
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>>321089290
putting your butthurt in a spoiler doesn't exactly hide it from anyone
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>>321085516
Giving it to anyone would be good enough. But any significant changes would most likely drive the fans away.
>only Pokemon games that change next to nothing between installments remain popular: mainline and PMD
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>>321085516
I think it's best I just don't play Pokemon anymore since I don't like the new designs or same-game releases.
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>>321089027
>See: Castlevania, Sonic
>Using those series, who already were in questionable states, as examples
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Don't give it to level 5, they'd make it into a mobile app that's on 3ds for some reason.
Don't give it to Atlus either as they'd use showdown sprites like the lazy kikes they are.
I'm at a loss.
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>>321087897
>a series that doesn't need saving

Did you mean it is doing well in sales with this part?
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>>321089027
Dragon Quest
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>>321089797
>pokemon isn't in a questionable state right now
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>>321089131
He's a Charitard I bet, like bravest bird still wouldn't be superior without sneaky sediment
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Maybe it would "liven it up" for a bit, but I sure as hell wouldn't expect anything better. Does it really need to liven up?

Pokémon has stayed true to itself since the first games were released, and considering what happened to several franchises that were "livened up" by new developers, that's probably for the best.
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>>321090095
>Don't give it to level 5, they'd make it into a mobile app that's on 3ds for some reason.

How often have they done something like this?
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>>321090112
It's doing well in sales and with ideas. A lot of people need to realize that ideas may seem good on paper, but unless they're properly executed, they can hinder the entire game if not a part of said game. You can't just up and decide "IM GONNA MAKE AN MMORPG", you have to see if your IP can work with the genre without making drastic changes. All in all, it's not worth the investment nor the risk. You have many other spin-offs that prove themselves to work with the IP and subject matter without making too much of a mess.

>>321090198
DQ has had some hit and misses, but nothing that killed the series.
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>>321090198
The difference is, the new developer for DQ had staff who previously worked on the series. And DQ was never bad to begin with.
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>>321090492
No, I'm saying DQ was able to stay good due to the fact it got different devs who made a different take on the series.
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>>321090492
Oh, okay, I agree with you then.
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>>321087897
This is your whole why ultimate idea is game pretty damn shitty?
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>>321090610
Ah, my mistake.
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3D console pokémon game by Monolith Soft.
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Yokai Watch is pretty much how Pokemon should be one the 3DS. Nice animations, STABLE frame rates, towns that don't look like they're just NES towns in 3D, and actual characters and dialogue thats entertaining to read.
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>>321091361
Pokemon is moving to mobile anyway, so they aren't really putting effort into their mainline 3DS games.
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>>321090095
>a mobile app that's on 3DS for some reason

Niantic has already topped this.
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As long as I am getting my mystery dungeon games I don't give a shit about the main series.
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>>321090557
>And DQ was never bad to begin with

Neither has Pokemon, just stale.
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>>321091361
>all auto battles
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>>321093079
Yokai Watch isn't the only type of RPG they make though.
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>>321089290
>(you)posting child demanding that someone else generate discussion
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Leave mainline to Game Freak, but make more spin-offs, some even mainline styled to other developers.
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>>321091560
>Nearly 2016
>actually thinking GO is a real game and not a reskin of Ingress.
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>>321094707
Please don't dash my dreams anon :(
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>Level 5

Sure, if you want the game to get even more dumbed-down and then milked to death.
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>>321094440
Another Pokemon Conquest style game would be great.
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>>321085516
>So do you think giving Pokemon to a new developer would liven it up some?

yes, and this is the case for every Nintendo franchise bar mainline Mario

Monolith and Intelligent Systems' franchises are fine with them though
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>>321094707
Almost looks like Gamefreak thinks it is. A reskin of Ingress is exactly what they want judging from the John Hanke interview.
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>>321085516
They'd make it a grindfest. One of the redeeming factors about Pokemon as a game is that they design them so that even stupid kids can complete it. So pretty much every single Pokemon is viable in-game, no matter how terrible their stats are.

Although Pokemon is a nice concept and I'd like to see them give the IP to more developers so we can get even more unique spin-offs. Conquest was nice, even if it was repetitive because you were essentially playing the same game 17 times. I'd like to see a Fire Emblem/Pokemon crossover.
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>>321085516
>Level-5
Please yes, maybe finally we can get another male protag that looks like a boy.
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>>321096432
Not possible when compared to gamefreak.
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Give it Monolith.

I'd love to see a Pokemon game with the same sense of size and scale but still maintaining the linear open world like Xenoblade Chronicles.
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They just need to stop removing the improvements that they do add, like PWT/Battle frontier, join avenue, trainer customization, etc.
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>>321085516
Yes, but keep the character designers
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>>321105020
I only agree with this for the purpose of having them ABANDON the grid/hex based movement.

Overhead view is old and busted garbage.
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>>321105392
God no. BW2 had possibly the worst protag designs which is sad considering that BW's protags are arguably the best
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>>321105392
The characters designs are the worst fucking part of the new games.
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>>321105763
BW1 - Sugimori
BW2 - Not Sugimori
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>>321105885
>IMFUCKINGPLYING
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>>321106676
THEY ARR ROOK SAME!
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>>321106676
Exactly, all shit. Only the NPC boys are good in terms of both variety and aesthetics.
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No I like pokemon as is. If it isnt broke dont fix it
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>>321087897
retarded strawman.

People don't want an ULTIMATE POKEMANS GAME
They want a game that's just a little different than the same thing repeated over and over again.


Different plot, different set-up, different goal than going to the gyms, different way it divides the world map. Just make SOMETHING different. Stop selling the same game year after fucking year.

Is that so hard?
Of course it is because shits like you eat it up despite the fact that it's the opposite of creativity.

You shits are worse than the people who buy Madden and Football Manager for a few minor roster updates.
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>>321107332
You also have to be 18+ to post here ;^)
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>>321106676
Poison picked

Regrets: None
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>>321086624
Because people want something different and it's really only the overweight neckbears and ten-year-old kids who think the same thing over and over again with minor pokemon updates is perfectly fine?
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>>321105020
>new pokemon game on console ala XD
>But it's in the same style as Xenoblade Chronicles
>you control your pokemon
>Different base attacks, actual attacks are handle in the same way as arts
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>>321107207
>only shota npcs are good
Go back to playing yokai watch you pedo
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>>321105020
would it include the crippling bugs that deletes your save files?
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>>321108965
Go back to shitposting somewhere else, faggot.
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>>321085516
>fossil fighters was given to another dev
>most of the features that made it awesome are now gone

>littlebigplanet was given to another dev
>the storyboard was absolute shit and the game was rushed, bonus points for horrid glitches

>spyro and crash were given to other devs
>crash is dead and spyro's newest game is a giant cashgrab for toys

Gee OP, I don't fucking know, will giving Pokemon to someone else make it better?
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>>321111023
>Dragon Quest were given to other devs
>best in the series

>King's Quest was given to new devs
>best in the series

It can go both ways. Its better than the stagnant shit we've been getting
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>>321111396
>Its better than the stagnant shit we've been getting
According to? The series is still selling like hotcakes, most people still love it.
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>>321111640
People who've been playing this series for a long time.
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>>321111396
Both are just adventure games that nobody can possibly screw up.

The new Pokemon that this "developer" would bring would probably be crap, and there would be DeviantArt-tier ideas thrown into the mix. The entire hivemind of /vp/ would shit bricks if they saw something like that.

And don't get me started on the possibility that they'll just remove the 700 other Pokemon which came from GameFreak's hands just because of complications.
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>>321112449
They're just as easy to screw up. The only difference is one series you have a stronger attachment to
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>>321112449
>and there would be DeviantArt-tier ideas thrown into the mix.

Like this?
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>>321112316
So an extremely small minority you could be making up entirely?
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>>321112953
>minority
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>>321112794
Yeah, imagine those kinds of ideas but multiplied by 10.
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>>321113151
>Age directly corresponds to how many people have been playing the series from day 1.
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>>321113671
I don't know why'd anyone would willingly play these games in their adulthood except out of nostalgia
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Pokemon needs a big ass rework.
Rhe main games are always the same shit. A fresh breath of aie would be nice.

>no grass/water/fire starter selection at start
>no collect 8 badges and beat champ
>no rival that choses effective type against your starter
These modest changes alone would be a revolution.

Now add sidequests, factions and choices and I'm coming back to pokemon.
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>>321114160
Because they're fun?
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Pokemon needs competition. Someting that offers a similar experience but doesn't have the same problems.

It's still selling well, which means there's no incentive to change anything. There needs to be some other game series that starts cutting into their profits. That's the only way to get them to go "okay we need to change some shit".

But then the problem arises when most of the fans of Pokemon are just fans of Pokemon. They don't think "boy, I could sure use a nice RPG where you raise monsters, oh look a new Pokemon game". They just get the Pokemon game because it's Pokemon.

So competing games are only going to do so much. Most Pokemon fans won't even give any competitor the time of day.

Basically, Pokemon is doomed to die a very slow death. We're gonna get formulaic games for the next 50 years until it stops being profitable, then they're gonna try to revamp a series that has like 100,000 monsters and a metric shitton of mechanics that no one can agree on whether they're good or bad.

Pokemon is doomed. Embrace it.
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>>321117578

You're forgetting that as long as there are new generations of kids being brought into this world, Pokemon will always have a colossal consumer base.
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>>321118160
Also this. I'm sure there's plenty of parents right now buying their kids pokemon games because they played it as a kid too.
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