>When a video-game player in Russia began playing "Fallout 4," he stopped eating, sleeping, spending time with his wife, and even going to work. He has now lost his marriage, job, and health, and he blames the video-game maker Bethesda Softworks.
>He wants monetary damages of 500,000 roubles, or $7,000, and a warning label on the game so future players will know what they are getting into.
> His request may sound bizarre – even his lawyers say they plan to "see how far we can go regarding this case" – but it also echoes of a culture growing increasingly fond of warning labels.
>The lawsuit originates in Russia, but Bethesda Softworks is an American company and the outcome could potentially have some ripple effects in the United States.
>Once widely viewed as patronizing interference with commerce, warning labels have become relatively commonplace in US stores. Many seemingly common sense warnings advising consumers not to use products in ways other than those for which they were intended stem from lawsuits, either realized or potential.
>In this instance however, the adverse outcome of becoming addicted to a game, may be in the eye of the beholder. Some gamers would argue that the addictive nature of a game is actually a symbol of how good it is.
Have you ever become addicted to a game? Should video games have warning labels on them?
>>321050075
> 500,000 roubles = $7,000
lol wut?
I would say i was addicted to Guild Wars 1, i put a shit load of hours in that. Nowadays i can't see myself getting addicted to games anymore.
>500,000 roubles, or $7,000
hahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>321050170
That's the result of a commodity dependent economy with little diversification, lack of skilled workers, and having a lot of your skilled workers bail out to foreign countries.
I should try the same to get some extra money from Todd.
>a grown man, with a wife, and a job doesn't have the self control to stop playing a video game, a rather mediocre one at that
good, faggot deserves it
>>321050075
>monetary damages of 500,000 roubles, or $7,000
Please, no. It's bad enough that the younger generation are coddled all to fuck, are you seriously telling me a grown ass man with a wife and a job couldn't control himself with a game as shitty as FO4?
No
Gamers needs better parents
$7000 is like a couple weeks of work, this guy could do better.
>>321050318
>go to subway
>order a $5 footlong meatball sub because it's delicious
>the sandwich artist laces it with heroine
>you eat it and get high
>after a while your body craves more
>you go back and order another one
>your body wants more and more
>you eventually go broke and lose your job
>Hurr durr why you not just have self control?
That's how retarded you sound like right now. Addiction is a disease with actual physiological dependency. You can't just will yourself off of an addiction.
I do believe that video game should have addiction labels.
Modern games are designed is such a way that you just want to keep playing them every single day.
If you don't you fall behind cause you didn't do your 20 daily quests you got. Or pay money.
Game specifically designed to spoon feed you the content slowly increasing the dose. Or pay money.
Pretty much every f2p game falls into this category.
I mean for fucks sake fucking VALVE hired more psychiatrists than programmers in the past 2 years so they could bleed you dry with "deals" and "sales". They actually bring people to analyze on what people spend the most and then use dirty tricks to push that scenario into our face.
>>321050075
he probably has that tendency anyway, good thing it was just video games that pulled it out.
>>321050170
>>321050260
W-who needs economy anyway, at least we got C-crimea...
![100[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yM0Nqd0.jpg "100[1].jpg")
>>321050595
>t. vladimir vladovich
>>321050612
>I mean for fucks sake fucking VALVE hired more psychiatrists than programmers in the past 2 years
citation needed
>>321050612
This is why I pirate
Or buy cheap used games for consoles I'm to lazy to jailbreak/cant be jailbroken
>>321050170
Inflation is crazy.
>>321050595
what is it with /v/ and totally fucktarded analogies
for the record, i'm calling you a dumbass
>>321050075
>Russians
Scum of the earth when it comes to games. I wish they were banned from every single game forever.
>>321050612
>Modern games are designed is such a way that you just want to keep playing them every single day.
i feel different i get easily bored by them after i finished the game
>>321050318
>>321050318
Maybe his wife, and job were the mediocre aspects of his life.
And the game was the exceptional.
Y'never know nigga.
>>321050595
Congratulations, this is the most retarded analogy I've seen on /v/ in recent memory.
Which is quite a feat, since /v/ can't into analogies in general.
The only time I've seen an "addiction warning" was when it was tongue-in-cheek
Now, if there were a hotline, like for gambling, maybe.
>>321050612
>I mean for fucks sake fucking VALVE hired more psychiatrists than programmers
Assuming this is true, that's really not very noteworthy.
>$7000
>>321050875
>Scum of the earth when it comes to games.
Their attitude and behavior isn't just reserved to games. Ask the people who live next to Russia how "nice" the Russians really are.
>>321050075
but fallout 4 was fucking terrible, i took it back to the redbox after 6 hours
>>321050595
Psychological addiction vs physical addiction is different, heroine causes physical dependency, which needs detoxing to help overcome, psychological ones can be stopped with will power, your analogy shows how uneducated you are
>>321050612
>source: my ass
Every store in the world has daily deals and event sales, even fucking grocery stores, you don't need psychiatrists for that, its just businesses being businesses, goddamn.
>>321050595
>heroine
>>321050595
>heroin
>a physically addictive substance that will result in bugs and shit crawling through your blood if you stop cold turkey
>fallout 4
>a broken product that results in bugs and shit crawling through your gameplay if you don't stop.
>I agree wholeheartedly with your analogy
>>321050595
psychological dependency is not the same as substance addiction you dense fuck
you can become dependent on just about anything if you use it as a retreat from stress
it's why there are so many neet losers on 4chan, they start using videogames and anime as a way to escape their shit lives and become dependent on the security of procrastinating in favour of pointless bullshit that makes them feel goodI should know, I've been there
If you don't get withdrawal symptoms it's not an addiction, and no depression doesn't count as a withdrawal symptom.
>>321050595
still managed to make it a food analogy congrats
>>321050075
What the fuck is it with Russians? I went there for a few weeks in 2004 and took Russian history for 3 semesters in college and knew some back at university. They were all pretty cool. But now that they have more internet access, they seem like complete fucktards.
> openly cheating on multiplayer games
> constantly yelling and spamming in Russian on non-Russian servers
> always starting political shit
> going to western sites and spamming that Putin and Russia strong
What the fuck?
Video game addiction is a real thing, and some video games are designed to be deliberately exploitative to people with addictive tendencies, like a lot of free-to-play and mobile titles. That side of the industry is extremely scummy and frankly I wouldn't mind if they threw some warning labels on that shit.
In this specific instance though? Fuck that guy, he's an idiot blaming a company for his lack of self-control.
I was addicted to all kinds of vidya plenty of times, but I'm not a retard. I know how to control my urges and not fuck up my life over it. I've only seen teenagers get consumed and throwing fits at tehir parents because of vidya, but never a grown family man.
>fuck up your life
>blame somebody else
>try to get money for it
modern society in a nutshell lads
>>321050595
Nobody laced that fucking game with heroin, you dumb fuck. Give an analogy that actually works.
>guy goes McDonalds
>guy loves McDonalds
>eats every single day
>becomes fat in no time
>loses friends, family
>blames McDonalds for making him fat
>suck a bag of dicks, fag
>>321050170
Remember, Russia is poorer than Gambia.
>>321050612
Provide relevant insight into human behavior in order to shape gameplay and customer experience.
Perform statistical analyses on all aspects of Valve’s operations: gameplay, financial, and company data.
Research compelling new hardware technologies.
Design experiments to evaluate various gameplay hypotheses and design choices.
Improve existing playtesting methodologies while incorporating novel techniques to improve best practices.
Develop innovative ways of acquiring relevant data to answer open questions about all aspects of Valve’s products and business practices.
from valve
>People should give me money because I lack self control
Haah waaw
Uhhh. Never thought about it but yeah they should.
Problem is an individual person may find game A entirely unaddicting while they get really addicted to game B, one individual person gets addicted to game A and is indifferent to game B, and one individual person gets addicted to both game A and game B.
>>321050595
should have just used the example of old coca cola laced with cocaine because that actually happened
>>321050075
IIRC games are not physiologically addictive so it wouldn't be fair to label them as such. I think you can become psychologically dependent on pretty much anything.
>>321051178
90s basically turned Russia into a bunch of anti-intellectual psychos.
To think Soviets were well known for being very polite, helpful and intellectual.
>>321050595
>You can't just will yourself off of an addiction
Thats exactly how it's done, you limpwristed cocksucker.
>>321050595
Holy fuck this is top tier. Saved
>>321050595
There's something special about /v/ and food anologies that make absolutely no sense.
>>321050318
>FO4
>medicore
>>321051379
it's not just /v/, food analogies are shit in general
>>321051404
you're right, it's not mediocre, it's outright shitty.
The most I've done is maybe buy more premium currency in mobile games to support games I enjoy but I'm getting myself to stop.
It's a money sink that could be going toward actual games or art supplies for myself. I'd rather have tangible goods than small boosts
>>321050075
WoW should get the tag Imo.
![2361734-nes_firenice[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/t24S96D.jpg "2361734-nes_firenice[1].jpg")
>>321050075
>>321051178
> going to western sites and spamming that Putin and Russia strong
That's not really relegated to Russians. I see plenty of British people do it with empire shit, Americans with their "we're #1" and moon shit, Chinese and their shit.
What the internet's taught me is that I generally just dislike people.
>>321050595
>amerifats
Lol
>>321051178
Congrats, you've met with vocal minority on the internet, just as one might claim that most Americans are sjws from encountering a couple of fucktards on twitter
>>321050595
This might be the worst analogy I've ever read.
I just can't understand getting addicted to such a mediocre game.
>>321050178
But what about Guild Wars 2 friend?
:3
easiest defence in history
all bethesda's lawyer has to do is emphasize how shit fallout 4 is
anyone that gets addicted to it clearly has a preexisting problem
>>321051620
Normie syndrome, have all your friends call it great and you become so deluded it'll be your personal goty for the next 5 years
>>321051514
liarI know because I harvested (You)s
>>321050595
>Physical addiction is the same as psychological addiction
ayylmao nice try vlad
>>321051335
2004 comes after 90s.
>>321051178
>going to western sites and spamming that Putin and Russia strong
to be fair, people get paid to do so.
>always starting political shit
nope. but sometimes. Russia is in the shitter right now, so to avoid any flack for his decisions Putin just called everyone who doesn't agree with him spies and saboteurs, trying to ruin "glorious Russia".
Teens and stupid people are easily influenced. Aside from that not much has changed.
Seems like the guy just needs an excuse for being a piece of shit. Pathetic.
>Have you ever become addicted to a game?
Maplestory when I was a teen. It was more about the community and "competition" though. I also didn't have much else to do. But after that was over with I realized how shit MMORPGs are.
And no I don't think vidya should have warning labels, that's retarded.
>>321050902
Same.
>>321050595
Is it the same retard running around making shitty sandwich analogies or is this a ehpick maymay?
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/320359982
>Warning: Fun things are fun
>>321051178
>But now that they have more internet access,
Every 12yo is on the internet, no wonder you get an impression they're all retards.
Average grown russian just spends his time being drunk, abusing his wife and kids or being a wageslave, they don't have time, ability or desire to play on foreign servers.
>/v/ in charge of knowing anything about politics or economy
Why am I not surprised?
>>321051934
>countless threads on /v/ pointing out how some game with Fun Warning is in fact not fun
You know what else should come with addiction warning labels?
>>321050967
>"herror my uh famiry are making me pray dis gaem furr 19 howas a day please save me"
>>321051980
>Anime reaction image poster in charge of original bait
addiction is for the weak minded, its just Darwinism taking its course
another day another faggot being gay
>>321052089
>>321052006
Fun is just abuzzword
I legitimately miss those days. Much more entertaining than current /v/ screaming cuck this and meme that.
BREAKING NEWS
BREAKING NEWS
People with lack of self-control (and taste in video games for that matter) and easily addicted personalities can get addicted to games intended to be a time sink!
BREAKING NEWS
BREAKING NEWS
>>321050595
>the sandwich artist
is this a thing in america?
>>321052150
>fun is a buzzword
>good
Fuck off, that was one of the worst phases /v/ ever went through. Because people genuinely believed it, I'd say its worse than the "artificial difficulty" phase
>>321052234
Employees at Subway are literally called sandwich artists.
It order of seniority:
> sandwich artist
> sandwich artist PRO
> assistant manager
> manager
> assistant regional director
> regional director
> sandwich artist MASTER
Goddamn, Fallout 4 isn't even that good.
>>321050075
I think people forget that games come with a health warning slip inside.
>>321052303
I didn't say it was good just better than the shit we have now.
>>321050595
This is the same fucking viral marketer who's been astroturfing this shit WITH THE SAME FUCKING SUBWAY ANALOGY EVERY FUCKING TIME.
>>321052414
pretty sure it's only about epilepsy and thrombosis risks, not addiction
>>321052367
>>321050595
physical and psychological addiction are different you fucking imbecile
>>321050595
I cant believe you got so many.
Good Job Anon.
>>321052450
But I feel it was one of the primary causes for the current state of the board. It was forced, but people genuinely believed it. My memory is pretty shit so I forget if that was before or after /vg/
It showed this shift in mentality to even more shitposting, people used to joke about /b/ 2.0 but we're honestly way beyond that point.
>>321052460
>subway is paying someone to come to poorfag and shut in central to make shitty analogies in the hopes said poor shut ins go outside and drive to the nearest subway in the car they don't have and buy a Spicy Italian sub with the money they don't have
This paranoia meme has gone too far
>>321052496
Calling them "artists" has that connotation that implies that their job takes passion and practice.
It's a marketing gimmick.
Would you rather have a sandwich made by some fuckhead teenager or an
~~~ARTIST~~~?
THERE ARE TONS of games which suggest you to play in a well lit room and atleast 15 minutes of rest apart from each hour of gameplay
News just reporting a retard being retarded, and its his fault, playing Fallout 4
>>321052496
There are subways in 111 countries, m8
>>321050595
>retarded food analogy
AMERICANS EVERYONE.
>>321050075
I once played Kirby: Canvas Curse for 16 hours straight.
Never in my life has my hand hurt worse.
>>321052774
Anyone remember the old days (late 80's to early 90's) when basically every computer monitor had a radiation warning? I was a kid back then and don't remember why they had it. Anyone know?
>>321052367
While I think there is art in the making of a truly great sandwich, that ain't what they're doing at Subway.
Every (good from a business perspective) game is designed to be as habit-forming as possible. That's how it works. They want you to be addicted to their game (to a reasonable extent).
Humans are organic machines, and if you pull the right levers you get the right responses. That's why everything is priced at $499. Even though you rationally know it's $500 you don't think of it that way in your subconscious, and this does influence purchasing behaviour whether you think it does or not. Marketers love people who think "I'm not stupid enough to fall for that shit" because those are exactly the people who fall for it at the highest rates.
The real question is: "what happens when our understanding of the human psyche and marketing techniques is good enough to basically force people to buy things?"
Now, you may say that nobody can force you to buy something against your will, and that's true, but if they're so good at persuading you that it's almost guaranteed that you will want to buy it - regardless of how much you actually need it or wanted it without their influence - then isn't that the same thing? Bear in mind that they will be able to convince you whether you want to be convinced or not - organic machines, remember?
So I don't think warning labels go far enough. We need to ban advertising, except in standard form. It's basically "as close as we can legally get to lying and not be fined: the industry" anyway.
Fuck advertising. Fuck marketers.
A GOOD PRODUCT SELLS ITSELF.
Being autistic isn't anyone's fault
>>321052756
This is almost as bad as the other analogy, their rank isn't "fuckhead teenager"
video games can be addictive
i've had bouts with certain games where it was easy for me to let them take too much of my time
should they be blamed for that? no of course not, anything can be addictive
would i give two shits if they stuck a label on the box? nope
>>321052925
That might not be their rank, but thats what they are outside of their job you fag.Let me guess, you're one of the ~artists~, right?
>>321052904
While I agree with you that advertisements needs to be reduced, the question of the economical damage that might cause pops in.
How would you handle that?
>>321052904
>because those are exactly the people who fall for it at the highest rates.
Hi Anita.
>>321050075
It may be worth mentioning that the guy lives in Siberia.
>>321050075
I heard this shit ages ago in regards another game. Gotten old enough to repost?
>>321052904
I think we should ban marketing degrees.
test
>>321050595
you're retarded
>>321052693
This is either a nice attempt at misdirection or you are the dumbest motherfucker alive.
They're attempting to generate traffic for The Christian Science Monitor. Clearly they use the same marketing agency as Gawker Media since the very same posts show up in both these and the stealth Kotaku threads.
>>321050075
>being adult
>can't even feed yourself
mental disease of a small percentages shouldn't hurt the freedom of the 99.9999% left. Fuck that shit.
>>321052602
I think it was more a symptom than a cause. I think the cause is 4chan just got too popular. Eternal September is real. It's happened to many sites and real life organizations. Once a place becomes too popular and the influx of new people outpaces the ability of the established users to acclimatize them, it starts to change massively. This isn't always a bad thing mind you.
I don't remember when 4chan hit critical mass. 2008 seemed like we were in the news too often but the site seemed fine. 2011 was, personally, the last fun year for me. I haven't bothered to make OC since and as much as I'm not fond of the current state of things, everywhere else is worse.
Also the great mod crackdown had a huge effect. /v/ and /sp/ which routinely had off topic threads that people enjoyed had fun banned. So if people wanted to get their jollies off they had to do so under the guise of being on-topic. We can't have an lol or military thread? Fine, here's 50 console war and "x" game is a meme game threads.
>>321053056
>How would you handle that?
Fuck them. If their business can only survive by lying to people and flogging their shit then they deserve to go under.
Banning advertising won't reduce the amount of products people need, so it means that the same amount of essentials will be purchased and produced. In terms of non-essential spending I wouldn't expect a drop there either. People will still have the same amount of money to spend, they will just spend it on different things. Keep inflation high to discourage saving and you might be surprised at how little economic disruption there is over the medium term.
For example, instead of spending $1500 on a Macbook they might spend $750 on a generic laptop with the same specs, so you might think the GDP is out $750. But that consumer still has $750, and so they're going to go out and buy petrol for their car, or a new phone, or any number of other things that previously they wouldn't have been able to buy because they overpaid for the brand on their shitty e-mail machine. Or they will invest that money (because inflation will erode its value if they leave it in the bank) which is also good.
>>321053362
What about minor products, that are not well known? Let's say a very niche apple juicer (i dunno), which is not obvious for most people.
How would they survive?
>>321053347
>i liked off-topic shitposting
Fucking hell, you people are the cancer. If you want to have "fun" go to S4S. /v/ is for videogames and your offtopic threads belong in gas chambers.
And yes, I was here for '08 too.
>When a soccer player in Russia began playing soccer he stopped eating, sleeping, spending time with his wife, and even going to work. He has now lost his marriage, job, and health
>When stamp collector in Russia began collecting he stopped eating, sleeping, spending time with his wife, and even going to work. He has now lost his marriage, job, and health
>When a person who breaths in Russia stopped breathing he stopped eating, sleeping, spending time with his wife, and even going to work. He has now lost his marriage, job, and health
This just in; people with mental issues have mental issues.
>>321053620
that doesnt mean that products that are designed to be a dopamine drip from the ground up aren't actually addictive though
>>321053016
No, I'm NEET. But it also doesn't matter what people call them, they may as well all be teenage fuckheads regardless.
you mean he played 30 whole hours straights to finished the game 120% and was late to work the day after?
Tbh if you want a good sandwich, go to Panera Bread
>>321053496
I'd understand your position, but I disagree:
1. A lot of people have a main board.
2. These people typically prefer to discuss things in their main board, even if it doesn't fit the topic of said board.
3. A substantial amount of these people want and do discuss the off-topic materials on their board instead of going to a more appropriate board. Especially if they started off on /b/ and migrated to another board.
4. Prior to the crackdown, you could discuss off-topic things on your board (to an extent). Hell, I'd post new military tech developments on /v/ and those threads would regularly hit the bump limit in around an hour. Few people tried to derail them and those that tried failed due to the sheer amount of people that liked talking about the subject.
5. Allowing some off-topic discussion lets users let off steam. No one wants to or will be 100% on topic 100% of the time and have 100% super serious discussion: it's 4chan not a professional organizations' forum or Reddit.
6. After the crackdown and any semblance of fun being stamped out, users looking for their jollies would have to do so under the guise of being on-topic.
7. This resulted in a massive increase in shitposting which mods allowed because it's on-topic. Console wars, hey let's mimic TORtanic, cries of shill this and shill that, any and every game you like sucks increased exponentially. Not that that shit didn't happen before but after fun wasn't allowed it's what people had to resort to.
Think of it this way. If you’re a straight guy and want to have sex you can go pick up a chick. But then you're thrown in prison. There's no women around so it's man - ass or nothing. You post on a board that allowed some fun. Then they declared that fun off-topic so now you get your fun by on-topic shitposting. Can't have an LOL thread? Fine, I'll make 50 threads on how "x" game is a meme game
>addicted to shitty games like Fallout 4
It's actually called 'being a retard', there's no cure
>>321053468
Standard form "advertising".
I imagine a world where you walk into a small appliances store and all the stock carried is on bare racks with A4 paper that contains nothing other than a complete list of features and associated technical information, warranty information, and the reported failure rates of products over the period of time that the product has been available laid out in a standard form table.
The boxes for the products are plain white with barcodes on one end and the brand and model number of the product on each face.
There is literally no reason for any other labelling than that unless you're interested in lying to people to make a sale.
If you want to make people aware of your product then you can still put up billboards or posters or TV ads, but they are similarly spartan. Nothing more than an "Introducing the new [model number] from [brand], designed for [feature list in plain, direct english, exactly as it appears at the point of sale but you are allowed to omit features for brevity if you want]. Available at [store]." A still front shot of the exact product that the customer can expect to receive (no burgers that look better on the menu allowed) not being used and with front lighting is permissible as well.
So for the apple juicer you could have "Introducing the new XC-101 from Apples and Oranges Ltd., designed for automatically peeling and juicing apples in between 25 and 45 seconds on average. Available at select retailers."
That might sound spartan and controlling, but a good product sells itself. I've worked in sales, and if the salesperson is doing anything other than just listing techinical specs then he's trying to cover up the fact that the specs are shit.
>>321053956
Fallout 4 is designed to be addicting to its core
Weapon upgrades/armor upgrades
Perk system with no level cap
Repetitive clean up details that sum up every quest
100000000000 locations for said quests
Honestly, I can understand as someone with a former fap addiction. Everyday I'd fap just because I saw something with a good pair of titties in a video game or a comic or whatever. Eventually I worked through my problems and actively block out those things but most people don't have my level of self control, and I think these sorts of sexualized imagery need to be covered up and even given an option to 'block' them off if they're going to appear at all, like a black censor bar or less revealing outfits or even replacing the sexualized character entirely. This isn't about expanding the consumer base just sensible safety issues as many people can become addicted to this sort of imagery and can't help it.
>>321053939
Or maybe they could just not shitpost.
Or they could take it to another fucking board. The concept of a "main board" is stupid. If you want to talk about videogames then go to /v/. If you want to talk about L I T E R A L L Y anything else, go somewhere else.
It's that simple.
Besides, as somebody who regularly participates in gay furry bara threads that hit bump limit over the course of an hour, fun is definitely still possible. Sure, you get banned occasionally, but that's fair. /v/ has to be for videogames only or it stops being for videogames at all, and if you were here for 08 you should remember the days of having not a single videogames thread on the frontpage of the videogames board.
>>321050075
I thought stupidity is limited to Murrifats.
Guess dumbasses gonna be dumbasses, even when led by a KGB mofo.
>>321054278
>implying you don't regularly buy products because of sexy advertising.
Studies show that even if you believe you don't,you do.
>>321050075
Serves him right for having shit taste.
>>321054092
>no level cap
i thought level cap was 50
I mean, I understand escapism and hiding from shitty reality in an imaginary universe, but grown-ass man getting addicted to Fallout 4 of all thing. That's just fucking sad.
>>321054361
But that's exactly my point, this sort of thing needs to be censored because it's gaming the human nervous system for its own benefit, it's basically hacking your brain to make you want something you don't. It's completely morally wrong
>>321054280
What I'm trying to get at is the current system isn't working. How many years has this gone on? People won't stop shitposting and won't stop with off topic stuff.
I, personally, prefer allowing off topic threads. If I see some political or mlp or some other random thread I can keep scrolling by. But I am pretty tired of legitimate vidya threads getting ruined by shitposters. And I think a large part of the reason why this happens more now than in the past is the near complete intolerance of off-topic threads. They're always be shitposters but with no off topic threads to draw them in they resort shitting on legitimate threads. Not that this didn't happen before but I think it's a lot worse now. God help you if you think positively about a game.
Anyway, just my opinion and I could very well be wrong.
>Getting so addicted to a shitty game you ruined your job and marriage
Great job you fucking moron.
>>321054361
>Studies
lol.
>>321054805
The game was the outlet, not the cause. The guy was clearly unsatisfied with his life, job, and marriage. He just had and used playing FO4 as an excuse to avoid them.
>>321054801
>the current system isn't working
The current system is approximately a million times more videogame related than 2008, and that's all the videogame board ought to care about.
And in terms of shitposting, if you think 4chan isn't at its highest proportion of quality posts than ever before over the last few years you're dreaming.
2005-2010 were a huge black mark in terms of post quality. You cannot even imagine how much of what used to be standard fare is considered shitposting today. Go look at some old threads from /v/ (like 08 or older) and you'll see how much this site has improved.
>>321050595
>guy on /v/ uses a subway analogy
>>321050612
I think the steam card/badge/xp system is the most disgusting way to make profit on the side
like holy shit gotta pay money to actually customize your profile, Valve is horrible and I wish gabe never got the godmeme status that dumb brand loyalist faggots were so eager to dump on him
>>321051182
>he's an idiot blaming a company for his lack of self-control.
It's is easier to blame others than to accept responsibility for one's acts. Fat acceptance, etc. etc.
>>321052904
It is a thing that many games are designed to be habit forming, hell, it is specially bad with some mobile games and their daily rewards and borderline gambling. That's not saying anything about MMORPG that can satisfy almost all of the needs in the Maslow's pyramid of needs (except physical needs, for obvious reasons).
Even then, there's people bound to get addicted to anything more easily. If someone don't have something to dedicate his life to, games or whatever will end taking its place; lack of meaningful relationships can also make someone more prone to addiction.
This applies not only to videogames, but other addictive things of course.
>>321055142
>not using Enhanced Steam for freely using those 50 bux anime backgrounds
No one gets addicted to video game. People do get addicted to the sense of accomplishment brought by achieving things in the game, especially those who are underachievers in reality. Might as well say sports, crossword puzzles, and even science are addictive since these are all things people do simply to achieve personal or defined goals and get rewarded for doing so.
>>321050595
Now THIS is trolling
>>321050595
They should've put a warning label on that heroine seeming it is what is it is.
Much like video games
Bethesda games are literally the last games I could ever imagine becoming addicted to.
God they're boring.
>tfw i failed intermediate accounting because of that settlement feature
fuck that game
it was the only thing i enjoyed
>>321056089
I don't get how people play without mods at the very least. They clearly show that the many components of Bethesda games are absolutely lackluster.
>multiplayer maps based off the campaign locations/setting
>>321050448
A person who can't go one thread without reminding us how much they hate a video game, is trying to shame a guy for having no self control. Quite hypocritical of you.
>>321050075
>500,000 roubles, or $7,000
l m a o
Currency exchange is so bizarre
>OH NO HE'S SUING US FOR... 7k? Really?
it would be cheaper to pay the 7k than take it to court.
>>321050075
Wouldn't he run out of things to do pretty fast? There's only 140 quests in the whole game and most of them are 2 steps, or procedurally generated
Just give him a season pass
>>321050075
Nobody sued Blizzard for destroying people's lives, how can this guy make a case when people have literally died at their computer screens from too much WoW?
>>321050075
>Russian cucks are after our lolis and video games
Why hasn't Obongo bombed Russia yet?
>>321052546
Thanks haha
>>321059718
Its russia mate, 7k is probably what he makes in a year
Source
This wasn't reported in russia at all anywhere.
>>321059883
Because he doesn't ask for much and bethesda will probably just throw 7k his way to get it over with
Or not, 7k is probably a lot of cocaine that Todd desperately needs to forget that marcin is both taller and won goty
>>321050170
its 504k now
Russian economy is done, the country will collapse in 2016 if oil prices go below 35$
>>321059883
All mmos have a warning even in the game if you play for too long it reminds you to take a break
Lamo
>>321062127
>Australian Summer
>Should video games have warning labels on them?
Might as well put an addictive label in everything in existence, because people can and will literally get addicted to anything, even LIFE ITSELF.
Video games are harmless unless that person has an addictive personality, but then again that person could become addicted to anything, not just video games.
>>321050075
>he stopped eating, sleeping, spending time with his wife, and even going to work.
Sounds like a personal problem.
>>321050075
>you will never ever love video games this much
>lost his waifu and family over a game that's only been out for about a month
Things were falling apart long before that game was released.
There's just no way you could get addicted to a shitty game like Fallout 4. What a fucking attention whore.
>>321050612
This desu
>>321050075
>500,000 Roubles
>$7,000
>Not wanting to be a trillioniare
You have to be a legitimate cocksucker to play FO4 so much you lose your job, wife etc
I'm a huge Fallout fan and even I only managed to get in about 40 hours.
>>321050075
Why does "Idiocracy" keep going from fiction to documentary?
>>321050595
>>321062854
And if you don't take a break GMs contact you asking you if you're okay, and eventually they'll just ban you temporarily.
>>321050595
>people responding seriously to this joke post
Maybe he should've used a warning label too.
>>321050075
>Do video games need addiction warning labels?
No. People need to learn discipline and self control. Don't blame a shitty game company for your weak will.
>>321050075
>Have you ever become addicted to a game?
>addicted
lack of impulse control is not addiction, shit while superficially similar is a completely different thing.
lack of impulse control stems for other type of bullshit usually from someone being a shitty person in general and shit
>>321050075
>addiction warning labels
Are we up to the point where being a responsible individual is a unusual feat?
>I have no selfcontrol so society has oto take care of me
>>321050592
7000$ is several months of work, you privileged scum.
>>321065235
>Parents worked their ass off to get to college
>Work my ass off and nearly go bald from sheer effort to become a doctor
>Privilege
My family had fucking nothing and only now have something because their combined effort allowed me to get a proper education
Check YOUR privilege.
>>321050075
Russians shouldn't worry, based Poutine has saved them from this menace of gaming addiction. New online games like Rainbow 6 Shield cost 3000 roubles.
>>321050075
>Should video games have warning labels on them?
No more so than any other kind of time waster. Like, oh I don't know, television. Because NOBODY is addicted to TV am I right?
>>321064495
>remember muh 100000000000000 goy
>>321050075
If he seriously got addicted to a bland game like Fallout 4 he deserved to be abandoned by his wife and fired from his job.
What a fucking retard.
>>321050075
video games are "addictive" in the same way 99% of things are
that is to say they don't cause any form of physical dependency
>>321050595
Subway? Gay. Just ordered from Primo Hoagies just now.
>>321065381
No, when you make a blanket statement about $7000 being a couple weeks' work, you're a privileged asshole, regardless of the work involved in getting there.
A correct, non-asshole way to say it would have been: "Luckily for me, that's only a couple week's work. I know that for 99.9999999% of everyone else, it's a shit ton of money though."
>>321050595
>You can't just will yourself off of an addiction.
Former Heroin user... Yes you can. I quit cold turkey, it fucking sucked (and that is a major understatement), but quite simply, it was fucking will power, and only will power, that made me quit.
If you're dumb enough to sacrifice your life to playing vidya, you kindof deserve to die. It's just darwinism at work. Rules of Nature.
>500,000 roubles, or $7,000
ZIMBABWE
I became addicted to league of legends at the trough of my depression.
>>321050595
dude
wat
>>321050612
so should gambling have addiction labels? some p2w shit draws heavily from it
doesnt mean we should slap a sticker just because koreans can't stop playing starcraft 2
>>321065909
actually they can, brood war, league of legends and crossfire are like the top games played in korea
>>321065795
>it's a shit ton of money though
It really isn't. Maybe you should stop being poor.
>>321050595
capped for gold
If this does happen, then it has to apply to everysingle social networking software too it's only fair
>addicted to a shit game
Truly this man has committed some sort of sin in a past life.
>>321064665
Underrated post
>>321051270
>Give an analogy that actually works.
It would help if you did too. You can't use food as you can become physically addicted to certain types of food because of what goes into it. Fast food is notorious for this.
>>321050075
Its not the games, its the individual.
I've never touched an MMO and I don't intent to. I have way too many hours on Bad Company 2 and Dota 2 though.
>>321050595
It does't matter if you are pretending or not, because you look retarded in either case.
>>321050595
>>321050075
What the fuck kind of world are we living in where people can't control themselves and blame it on others for their problems? Can I sue water because fuck! Can't go even a few hours without getting my fix.
>>321050318
Addiction is real stuff buddy. I'm addicted to soda pop I should know, I just can't stop drinking that shit.
But I guess you tell depressed people to cheer up.
>>321066702
>mobile
Are you retarded?
>>321050595
Is there a requirement that every thread have at least 1 shitty food analogy in it?
>manufacturers are now liable for every neurologically deficient person that consensually purchases their product
What a great precedent to set.
>>321067431
It's an americlap site m8, of course there's food analogies everywhere.
>>321062127
The US just approved selling domestic oil overseas in the latest omnibus bill.
It's ogre. Worldwide gas will become much cheaper.
>>321067017
It's not the cigs, bro, it's the smoker.
I never touched menthols or kretekss and I don't intent to. I've smoked way too many marlboros and gauloises though.
>>321065803
Cold turkey is the absolute worst way to quit substance addictions because your body has become dependent on them and can and will suffer terrible fucking shit if you just stop using them altogether.
What you SHOULD do is have a dependable individual in your life monitor you and help you wean yourself off. You're only going to ruin your health if you cold turkey.
You CAN will yourself off an addiction just like that, but depending on the particular addiction it may not be a good idea to just up and do so.
>>321065803
that can kill you depending on how dependent your body is
>>321050075
i wouldn't mind them, not like it affects my experience, but anyone who does is a helpless faggot.
>>321050595
Look at this retard.
Look at him.
I know this might be b8 but I don't care. Using heroin is the worst possible example ever. Many MANY patients taking surgeries and being kept int he hospital to recover are given heroin to numb the pain. When these patients get released back into society and their lives, they don't crave heroin.
Addiction has been proven through mice that if you are generally accepted by other people and in a comfortable environment, then you won't be addicted to a drug or source. However, if you are in a hostile or lonely environment, or you feel insecure and unappreciated, you will look for other sources of happiness and escapism.
Like, fucking lol man. Addiction is a matter of will power and anyone who argues otherwise is a cuck to their own desires.
>>321050595
Then attack the gamer, not the game
Bethesda can't be held responsible for the fuck ups of one individual
>>321050612
>I do believe that video game should have addiction labels.
So should food then? Maybe the internet since everyone uses it?
Alcohol? 4chan? Television? Books? Memes? The key to life is moderation, no one else should be punished if you're retarded enough to stop going to your job or ignore your wife over a fucking game.
>>321050595
>mfw this guy compares FO4 to heroin
Just fucking ban video games already, jesus christ.
We are slowly becoming souless husks because of video games, television, and the internet. They have pretty much castrated men and turned them in to mindless consumer drones. Our ancestors would be so fucking ashamed of us.
People who don't have common sense or self control deserve what they get, how can you seriously expect others to pay you for your own faults and problems? This is as bad as the people who sue businesses when they slip in the parking lot in the icy winter, wear boots and watch where you're walking you dumb pricks.
>>321050595
>>321050612
Pic related.
>HALF A MILLION roubles = 7000 usd
Get your shit together Russia.
I would totally use an FDA or surgeon general's warning that my game is too addictive as advertising.
>>321050612
Priorities.
Get them in order
I fucking love vidya, it's pretty much my only individual hobby.
But guess what, I also have a job, a wife, and exercise that are way more important than sitting in front of a screen
>>321067930
Like I've been addicted to many things, and I've had to tell myself to stop and to slow down.
>soda
>coffee
>vidya
>chocolate
There is literally no difference between a potent drug that "hooks" you chemically and gives you withdrawal symptoms, and a mediocre addiction like coffee.
I've had months of headaches in withdrawal from caffeine. The lack of video games meant extra time to do extra shit and there was this empty and depressive void. Soda is sugar and cutting off sugar increases irritability, same goes for chocolate.
So, yeah. Anything you are addicted to has a hook and it is a matter of will power to deny the craving, you fucking cuck.
>>321068064
Fucking food, man. Put some labels on that. My mom (that bitch) introduced me to food since I was a child and I've been addicted my whole life. I tried going cold turkey but ended up in the hospital where the doctors actually force gave me food! They said at this point my body is so dependent I can't live without it.
>Addiction warning label
You might as well put that on all the drugs, on cigarettes, alcohol, you might as well hang a big fat sign over casinos with that addiction warning, same goes for food and dessert.
Fucking lol.
What warning label could you possibly put on a game that won't look like an advertisement?
>>321068403
my sides
>>321050595
>>321050612
Wow, so this is the path society is heading down
People fuck up (or are fucked up) and think that others should apologize and compensate them
Fuck that and fuck you
>>321068558
SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: YOU MAY EXPERIENCE TOO MUCH FUN PLAYING THIS GAME
>>321068519
They do have warning labels on alcohol and cigarettes. I'm not sure if you've ever been, but in Vegas they also have signs al over the casinos reminding people to know when to quit.
Not agreeing with the lawsuit or anything, though. I just want to see if it goes anywhere
>>321068403
I'm the same way with oxygen. It's awful. Apparently, I might die in 60 - 70 years
>>321067930
Small doses of heroin are a lot easier and a lot less destructive to your body will yourself out of than a full blown heroin addiction. It isn't black and white - there is such a thing as degrees.
The reason it's easier to will yourself out of a minor addiction in that kind of situation and environment is because you are generating the chemicals that heroin provides all on your own. But for people not in that kind of environment, it isn't a matter of will, it literally is a physical fucking dependency because they are not making that shit on their own at any point in time, and as they grow used to the current doses they'll end up needing more and more to the point where you can't simply put yourself in that situation anymore and still be in a position where you can just up and quit.
>>321068372
You're the kind of retard that believes that if a game is lower than 8, it's the same as shit, aren't you? There's no such thing as degrees to you, is there?
You lack the experience and knowledge to truly comprehend how terrifying these chemical dependencies can be. They absolutely cannot simply be compared to sugar or caffeine, as they are an order of more potent in every way. Some headaches or irritability are not even in the same ballpark as hour long migraines, shivers, never-ending vomiting sessions... chemical addictions, if potent enough, absolutely CAN kill you if you just cold turkey on them.
And believe you me, it takes far more willpower to wean yourself off of heroin than it does to quit it cold turkey, which in turn takes far more willpower than quitting fucking sodie pap and caffeine.
People like this need to by psychiatrically evaluated
I couldn't even bring myself to finish the game how did that faggot manage to throw his life away for it
>>321065550
>tfw will have to resort to piracy again because of this
Well, maybe things will have calmed down by 2026 when I finish my backlog.
>>321068180
What else would we do?
>>321068841
And then there's shit like methamphetamine which can permanently alter your brain after one use. Humans were not designed to cope with some things.
>>321068887
Because he was a sorry excuse for a human being. Which is why he is suing now
>>321050595
hi turtle rock dev
>>321050595
I feel like it's the same one guy who comes up with these retarded as fuck food analogies. /v/ was always bad with analogies in general, but they keep popping up more recently
>>321050595
what's with this board and retardation? holy hell.
>>321050075
Inb4 warning labels on games:
<Development Studio> is not responsible for your lack of self-control.
>>321068925
Live productive lives? Explore the unknown? Help humanity progress forward into space? Exceed the limitations of the human body? Not be lazy sloths who rely on getting an emotional high from shitposting and having artifical fun with toys meant for little kids and teenagers?
>>321069560
But I want to be a skeleton.
How the fuck do you even get addicted to offline games? Especially one as bad as Fallout 4.
>>321050595
that comparison is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.
>heroin
>>321050595
I've willed myself off of oxycodone.
>>321067379
>addicted to soda
what a fat bastard
>>321067802
That is not true. There are only a few opiates that you cannot cold turkey off of (mainly Methadone and Buenophren, which they give to addicts as maintenance), Heroin and most street opiates you can cold turkey off of. It will suck, you may want to die, but you won't die.
>>321069560
>Live productive lives
Define productive.
>Explore the unknown
There's so little unknown in the world nowadays that it would cost exorbitant amounts of money to achieve that for so little payoff.
>Help humanity progress forward into space?
Why should I when someone else will probably achieve that sooner? It's not like any of us will be alive by the time we develop any kind of tech that will let us actually explore space in any relevant fashion.
>Exceed the limitations of the human body?
Impossible. There are some things that the human body simply is not capable of. Just because people exceed what anyone else can do doesn't mean they can exceed the truest limitations of the body.
>Not be lazy sloths who rely on getting an emotional high from shitposting and having artificial fun with toys meant for little kids and teenagers?
What the fuck else would I do? I'm too cynical and nihilistic to enjoy or feel any sense of satisfaction from doing anything else.
>>321050595
you should wear a fucking helmet
They already have warning labels. They refer to the age where you're considered old enough to play this game. If you're a manchild or addict even past that age, you are an outlier, and we can't account for every retard who can't handle his video games.
