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competitive games with rng elements aren't competitive games.
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competitive games with rng elements aren't competitive games. Prove me wrong
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>prove me wrong

You posted a picture of Carmack
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>>321038838
What did a picture of Alton Brown have to do with your post
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Poker is competitive.
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>>321038838
"Competitive" just means players play against each other, i.e. not co-operative.
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>>321039461
words can have more than one meaning especially in specific communitys/circumstances
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>>321038838
You're wrong, sadly.

If a game places two people against each other and bases their chances to hit and kill upon things which aren't constant, in addition to their own skill and aiming, it will never be balanced, but it can be competitive.

It's just a very shitty competitive game, that's all. Counter Strike was always garbage shit like that, back in the day there were other games you could play, like Enemy Territory.
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>competitive games with rng elements aren't competitive games. Prove me wrong
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>>321039725
Poker
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>>321039007
What's wrong with that.
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>>321040413
Can't be proven wrong.
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Who cares? Do people really need to be able to refer to something they play regularly as competitive? Do they think that "I play a competitive shooter" sounds better than "I play videogames"?
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they are competitive just not entirely skill based
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>>321038838
What are cards games anon.
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>>321040413
God I love Carmack.
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Luck is a skill.
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Why should I prove you wrong? Feel free to think whatever you wish to think.
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>>321040413
Based
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>>321038838
Poker can be played competitively and has rng
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>>321040413
ahaha
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>>321038838
A human opponent is a factor that can't be controlled or predicted. Therefore, every game against another player is a game with RNG. Checkmate atheists.
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>>321046834
/thread
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>>321041595
Fuck you, luck is a stat.
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