How come Bethesda can't write for shit? Is it that hard to find competent writers?
[Perception] Is it because people will buy their shit in droves no matter how rushed or half assed it is anyway?
>Is it that hard to find competent writers?
In the video game industry? Absolutely.
>>320986071
no idea desu
They're capable of good writing but it's always background lore that never actually features into the plot of the game. See every book in every Elder Scrolls game.
>>320986350
Is this real
>>320986350
Eww gross
>>320986071
[Barter] No, but it does cost more.
>>320986538
jej
>>320986595
what is the COC code for the institute in FO4?
>>320986538
Kek I killed every killable character I could in that vault
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>>320986735
So why are some screenshots the whole thing the player will say, and some are HATE NEWSPAPER?
>>320986350
What the heck is wrong with her face?
>>320986826
its a mod idiot
>>320986826
The most popular mod for Fallout 4 right now turns Beth's dialogue wheel into a proper list of choices that shows you exactly what you will say instead of paraphrasing. It also reveals that most "choices" are just different ways of saying the same thing.
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>>320987112
BUT SOMETHING BAD WILL HAPPEN IF YOU DO NOTHING
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>>320986920
Uh wow. Fuck you asshole...
>>320987379
fuck you you fucking retard use common sense
>>320987420
Just stop posting now.
>>320987379
HATE ASSHOLES
https://archive.is/47pLP
Why don't they just hire Avellone or Sawyer as freelance writers?
>>320987276
Yea its funny how I come back, the place is littered with dead bodies and they act all friendly with me and shit, Bethesda really did a shitty job at realism as far as conflict goes
>>58984968
How come people keep buying and shilling Bethesda games? Is it that hard to have standards?
>>320987484
fuck off back to reddit you fucking sif autistic kak
I'm glad I didn't buy this rushed piece of shit.
>>320986781
anyone have that COC code there does not seem to be a list anywhere yet
>>320986071
Because they don't understand Fallout.
>>320986264
I get the feeling any option would of led to the same path regardless, which probably accounts for why I can't follow the logic in that conversation.
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>>320986980
Jesus Christ, what a bitch. Don't try to explain it in the first place if you're going to say the lore of the game doesn't matter.
Because their nepotistic hierarchy keeps people like Pagliarulo employed despite his demonstrable incompetence. I'm a better writer than him. You're probably a better writer than him.
>>320987379
>Uh wow. Fuck you asshole...
gets triggered being called an idiot online
>>320988098
Divinity 2 had working ladders and it was Gamebryo, I think the game also looked better but I can be wrong.
Why are they still using this atrocious engine and making it even worse by being so damn incompetent?
Bethesda removes what they can't fix
>>320988225
How many similarities between Fallout 4 and Skyrim can you find?
>>320988257
I'm pretty sure their branch is just horribly outdated now. They've just been making their own shitty upgrades to whatever iteration Oblivion was on, hence the same old Bethesda-exclusive bugs still cropping up.
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>>320988516
Don't forget Catherine
I didn't excepted at all that the game was done using that engine.
Now you can build water purifiers and restore entire towns with a magic workbench that does everything a GECK does. It just works.
>>320988894
It's me of Bethesda games lore and gameplay elements are completely disjointed? When a NPC speak it's like they are talking about a completely different world than what I would see when playing the game.
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>>320986538
IT JUST WORKS.
WHY IS THIS ALLOWED?
>>320986264
This is lame,New Vegas had a better dialogue finale.
http://www.pcgamer.com/heres-whats-happening-inside-fallout-3s-metro-train/
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>>320989384
Companions were a last-minute addition that Bethesda did not properly incorporate into the plot.
>>320989669
What interests me is that they clearly anticipated this happening by recording lines and making dialogue choices where you COULD ask someone to go do the thing but they'd refuse. For some reason. Would it really be too hard to either change the ending so there isn't this weird logic or just add the alternate endings anyway?
Just how many NPCs are unkillable in Fallout 4?
>>320989978
Emil probably thought that destiny bullshit was good writing
>>320990127
A lot. Even a big part of the ones involved in side quests are unkillable.
>>320990127
Pretty much only the kids and some main quest givers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmpui8B6428
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyVQ9KaPxRI
>>320986071
>Is it that hard to find competent writers?
Well yeah.
Most competent writers work for network television.
>>320990145
That's... well that's something.
You know I think Skyrim is generally better than Fallout 4 even though it's the same general system.
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>>320990285
wew lad
I mean, are there more than in Fallout 3?
>>320990239
>hipster cant go without mentioning his hipster game of choice in the game's review
thats fucking sad
whoever wrote that has no sense of professionalism , thats like the biggest no no in terms of video game review, right up there with comparing it to other games as a descriptor . you just dont fucking do that
>>320990403
There are tens of thousands of English majors graduating every year. If they wanted to find good writers they could. The game industry is just loaded with nepotism and egos.
>>320990694
are you talking about Fallout 3?
>>320986071
Bethesda isn't competent in regards to anything, really. There's no reason to single out their incompetence when it comes to writing.
>>320990342
I like Destructoid reviews quite a bit.
>>320990867
maybe you should read the drivel you are spamming before flooding the fucking thread with it
>>320990694
>hipster game of choice
do you mean Fallout 3?
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>>320990253
>are there more than in Fallout 3?
Without actually counting. Probably.
Though i really never understood why people think this is a problem.
Who is honestly going through their first play through killing everyone?
F4 is shit if you want to be "evil" anyway. Which is, don't get me wrong, absolutely horseshit.
>Merchants don't drop their shop inventory if you kill them. So there is no point in killing them.
>All factions do it for "the greater good".
If you intend on playing the "bad guy", this game is not for you.The most "evil" i managed to be is persuading a kid to hand over their teddy bear and ball to save their cat.
>shitter keeps flooding the thread
We get it, you hate Bethesda. No need to keep reposting the same exact shit everyday.
This one is pure gold. If you have to read any of them, this is it.
With how much time went into Fallout 4 there is just no fucking excuse for it to be this shit.
>>320991436
There's no excuse for the whole lot of nothing that went into Fallout 4.
itt shitter who probably spammed spoilers like a cancerous little faggot sitting here now spamming reviews like a cancerous little faggot who never posted on 4chan before in his life
>>320991669
is this a gonna be a Witcher 3 vs Fallout 4 thread?
>>320986071
>Is it that hard to find competent writers?
No. They're just incredibly lazy, or haven't you noticed?
>>320991436
You realize all the "work" went into voice recording, right?
>>320992052
is it true that the different recognizable names gimmick they put in the game is only used by Codsworth on that one particular introduction but never addressed again?
>>320992532
I'm not sure, as I haven't touched FO4. I wouldn't be surprised, though.
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>>320987328
And even with a maxed out intelligence level you will still get these retarded options
>>320986071
I kinda miss 3-Dog, he was fun to listen to, even if he did get a little annoying.
>>320986898
B.) SHE GOT HER ASS KICKED
>>320986980
>fuck you nerd lol
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>>320991386
>nothing in the way of tutorials
>negative
i found this to be a positive
>>320995858
>Craig Brown
I misread his name and assumed he was gonna defend New Vegas
>>320986071
You know why Bethesda still has some wonky writing and character modeling?
Because they use the same people that they had for those things when they made Morrowind and on, and simply those people weren't very good. Now they could have replaced them, but that's hardly fair when the product is succesfull anyway.
Do you care so much for some pretty graphics and writing that you would want people to lose their jobs? Todd Howard doesn't.
>>320991089
Bit contradictory and overly negative. Gets the core points right, though. Bethesda's attempt to shake things up was superficial and ineffective at best.
>>320988516
You mean morrowind, back when the engine was called netimmerse.
>>320988070
>That motherfucking Skryim Thieves Guild quest chain
Are you fucking shitting me Emil.
Goddamn.
Nepotism is the answer to all those questions.
it is the worst game i played this year.
>>320990778
>There are tens of thousands of English majors graduating every year
>implying those people have the experience to be good writers
>implying they want to work in this industry if they were
The only writers you find in this industry are the hacks that can't make it elsewhere. It's one reason why video game stories overall are shit
>>320999264
All of the Skyrim guilds but the DB (Pagliarulo's favorite) were really bad. The College is probably the worst, because you were at least expected to use relevant skills for the other guilds. That, and everything is horribly underexplained and terribly paced.
>>320986071
all the good writers left after morrowind was done
I think now I'm going to go on a Twitter rampage at Stinky Pete Hiney.
>>320989384
>Fawkes may nonetheless follow the player into the chamber if his following distance is set to "close".
Things of this kind always crack me up.
>>321001746
watch him block you
>>321003282
Fuck that guy and fuck all the other hacks.
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>>320986350
kek someone saved my image
>>320986538
When you get a resque mission, there's a hostage that's all helpless n shit.
When you attack them they'll set themselves free and start shooting at you.
Fallout 3 set the fucking bar for atrocious writing. Even though Fallout 4's was terrible as well, it was STILL an improvement over fallout 3 by the sheer fact that it WASN'T fallout 3.
Fallout 3 is the only bethesda game that I could never fucking play again. I had fun with it when I was 17, but god damn.
>>321006631
NV > 4 > 3
