>Tales of Berseria coming to PC
On the one hand, I'm happy it's coming to PC, I was a huge fan of Vesperia but on the other we need to take off the weeb glasses and look at this realistically.
>Japanese developer
Alright:
>terrible, unoptimised mess
>framerate locked at 30fps for no reason
>when it is unlocked to 60fps by modders it also speeds up the game to 2x speed so it's unplayable
>no graphics options
>unplayable with mouse/keyboard
>has controller button prompts
>massive amount of cut content because reasons it's PC
>online only DRM
Japan is absolute dogshit at making games so actually Berseria will be a crock of shit on PC and be alright on PS4, the only thing saving it will be its fappable main character.
>>320976801
>Japan is absolute dogshit at making games
Muh ports
Please.
>>320976801
100% of every game runs better on PC compared to consoles.
Especially Japanese games with shit graphics.
>PS4
>30fps
>1080p
>toaster PC
>4k
>120fps
>mods
>I was a huge fan of Vesperia
what does that have to do with anything
every tales after graces f has been mediocre
>>320977493
were you under a rock when dark souls PC was released? It should not have been legal to release it in that state.
>>320976801
Why are you listing Zestiria problems though?
It doesn't guarantee anything and most developers actually learn from release to release.
>>320978051
and they've been fucking up couch co-op
>>320976801
why do tales game all sound and look the same? they look boring af t(bh)
>>320978051
*every tales has been mediocre
>>320978276
Even in it's worst it was on par with PS360 version. Considering it had more stable framerate, AA and AF on PC, it makes it better. But sure, by PC standards it's shit, just like latest Batman.
>>320978635
>people who are this retarded actually exist
>>320978815
Compare Blighttown on console to vanilla PC.
>>320976801
>unplayable with mouse/keyboard
Good. If you were truly a "master race" you'd be proficient with controllers that were designed for playing videogames. This isn't a fucking shooter you faggot. Get a pad.
>>320976801
Console
>terrible, unoptimised mess
>framerate locked at 30fps for no reason
>no graphics options
>unplayable with mouse/keyboard
>has controller button prompts
Bad PC port
>terrible, unoptimised mess
>framerate locked at 30fps for no reason
>no graphics options
>unplayable with mouse/keyboard
>has controller button prompts
I don't see the issue, sure a good PC port would be ideal, but it's better than nothing.
What, do you want them to just not bother at all?
It was pretty obvious Berseria would come to PC as well after Zestiria.
That said, Berseria still looks pretty lame. At least they confirmed that the camera would be controllable this time around.
>>320978276
it was a perfectly good port that was fixed in 17 minutes.
>>320979341
>That said, Berseria still looks pretty lame
This is the only tales game that has ever looked remotely interesting to me. Why does it look lame to you?
It was supposed to be a PS4 exclusive... Japan is dead...
>>320979341
Zestiria sold only 20% on PC over all sales.
>>320980578
A "perfectly good port" wouldn't need to be fixed.
>>320976801
>Tales games
These games have always been bad, regardless of platform.
>>320980805
Abyss was good.
>>320980794
>he needs this much validation and attention from 4chan
sorry, fagtron you're right
>>320980770
'only'
that's a lot
>>320980934
First rpg I dropped 3 hours in.
>Japan is absolute dogshit at making games
Not necessarily. Both MGSV games ran on my potato so smoothly on max settings I couldn't believe it.
Also, look at The Last Remnant. This shit has more different settings (graphics, audio, controls) than most of western games.
I'm not that picky, so as long as it runs fine and works with my Dualshock, I only care for the game's actual quality, like not having the shitty arte and equipment mechanics from Zestiria.
>>320981156
>the 20% of sales was when it was sold for $2 a pop during steam sales
Not at all, faggot.
>>320976801
MC looks like absolute shit and the game looks terrible
Literally (bad) PS2 tier
>>320977493
>>>toaster PC
>>4k
>>120fps
>>mods
As someone with an actual toaster I must say that you're full of shit and should kill yourself, just like any other drone.
>hear how great Tales games are (like 4 years ago)
>give vesperia a go, apparently one of the best of the series
>its a 7/10 at best
>mfw
Who the fuck likes this mediocre shit?
Also I can't imagine how terrible the other games are if Vesperia is one of the best.
>>320976801
Where do you get all this shit from? Zestiria was an excellent port besides the 30 FPS lock, and as far as I know the 60 FPS mod doesn't make the game logic run at 2x the speed. At worst, we should expect a similar port.
>>320979134
>framerate locked at 30fps for no reason
Console users WISH they could get 30fps.
>>320976801
Are they really, though? I recently decided to play Fairy Fencer F which is some random shit I bought off a steam sale a long time ago and it's a port from PS3 I think. It runs amazingly well and has mouse support. The only performance related issue I have is when entering dungeons it slows down for a few seconds. But other than that it is silky smooth 60 FPS at 4k.
>>320981973
Sorry to tell ya mate but most console users don't care about fps.
>>320981883
I honestly think for most tales fans it's the only rpgs they've ever played.
>30fps
Do you actually do your research or do you type with your slimy filth ridden tiny dick slamming on the keyboard whatever comes out and call it a day?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2vt1MM2SyY
Where's your 30fps fucboi?
>>320976801
What's with all these retarded threads today?
Zestiria came out a few months ago and had zero issues as a port other than being locked at 30 fps. There is now even a mod that unlocks it to 60 with no problems.
>>320981564
Nigga what?
The game barely had a sale.
>>320976801
>"Enjoy your japanese trash ps4 niggers xD!"
>OMG Finally we GOT IT!!!!
Lmfao
>>320982259
>>320981564
The game still didn't have a sale.
>>320976801
Oh don't forget:
>Community now ruined, threads doomed to endless shitposting.
Another game destroyed by the "mature" PC community.
>>320977493
>100% of every game runs better on PC compared to consoles.
Like Devil May Cry 3? Oh wait...
>>320982465
Why not? Can DMC3 run at 1080p+ on PS2?
>>320981564
>>320980770
Zestira sold better on PC in the west than it did on the PS3 and 4 combined.
>>320982593
The PC version of DMC3 has unavoidable slowdown unless you delete most of the sound files. Plus it doesn't support genuine analogue movement, it only reads movement in 8 directions.
>>320982593
Emulated, yes.
But it's not about resolution, but framerate and controls.
In order to have stable 60fps you had to remove sound files on PC.
>>320976801
How are any of those problems known when the game isn't even out yet?
>>320982703
>>320982767
And that's on modern PCs as well.
>>320982703
It's not "most" sound files, it's just a few. If you need to exaggerate you're already conceding you're wrong.
>>320982662
pretty sad then tbqh
>>320982834
Its a shitpost. OP just baited everyone, sat back and is enjoying the show.
>>320983089
this is 100% true.
>>320983087
Pretty good if you know how to read that site friend, what you're looking at is the bare minimum that it sold as they can't view private profiles of any kind or detect people who haven't loaded up the game at least once.
Overall they are looking at 400-500k sales total, a solid 80-100k+ is quite amazing.
>>320982996
You need to remove like all battle BGM.
He's obviously not taking about battle chatter, slashes and similar.
>>320983470
Are you fucking retarded? The site doesn't count each and every single profile that'd be insane, it analyzes a representative sample and projects the information from there that's what statistics are for. Unless private profiles have drastically higher vidya consumption habits it should make no difference whatsoever.
And that number is not the bare minimum, it's the median, the +- next to the number are the error margin, so the absolute maximum it could've sold is 93,246 copies.
>>320976801
So this Tales game is also coming out on PC?
Japan surprises me with the influx of games coming to PCs.
If they only released the Front Mission games...Evolved never existed.
>>320982465
well yeah the emulated version runs perfectly fine
>>320983947
Cities Skylines is reported to have sold over 600,000 more copies than that site shows.
Yeah. Zestiria did amazingly well on the PC.
>>320982465
>>320982703
only PC has that style mod that fixes everything and makes it a godly game.
>>320981597
your toaster can run it at 4k60fps unless you're actually just poor as fuck and should kill yourself.
>>320984359
>source: my ass
You can read how steamspy works on the site itself, scanning each and every profile is not only ludicrous but also unnecessary since once you have enough data for it to be statistically relevant you can already estimate the outcome with a high degree of certainty without needing the rest.
>>320984359
>Cities Skylines is reported to have sold over 600,000 more copies than that site shows.
Literally wrong.
It's been proven again and again and again that Steamspy has the right numbers for 99% of the games on Steam.
>>320984359
In April Paradox itself said the game sold 1 million copies.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/04/14/paradox-builds-up-1-million-cities-skylines-sales.aspx
Right now it's sitting at 1.7 million.
You're saying that the game sold 2.3 million?
From April to today, 1.3 million copies?
You've gotta be shitting me, nice try.
>>320976801
>Tales of Berseria coming to PC
English only, I assume?
>>320985254
Zestiria had JP dub, why Berseria wouldn't have it too?
>>320978385
I miss the vesperia couch co-op.
Player 3 and 4 have been getting shafted these last few tales games.
>>320985410
Well, I want the text to be in Japanese too.
>>320985892
Oh.
Now I don't know.
SOME games on Steam let you change text to JPN too, but some don't because of publishers shenanigans.
As in, they don't want Japanese people buying the game on Steam, or buying cheaper in the west Steam.
>>320976801
Beseria was confirmed for PC? When? I'm glad because that means I can still play it without supporting the god awful state of the series just to see how bad it is.
>>320982206
Jesus Christ that animation looks bad.And Here I thought it couldn't get worse than Xillia
>>320986007
Well I'll see. If it has the option of Japanese interface in the PC version then great. Otherwise I'll pirate the PS3 version to see if it's any good (I haven't been terribly impressed with Tales in awhile), and if it is, buy the PS4 version whenever I buy a PS4.
>>320985892
It doesn't have Jap text
http://gematsu.com/2015/12/tales-berseria-coming-west-ps4-pc
>>320976801
Just buy this game faggots and the west will get best Vesperia since they wont have to do a physical release.
>>320976801
>xrock of shit on PC and be alright on PS4,
Not necessarily. PC gamers only complain about shit ports when resolution options only go up to 720 or 1080 or when there's a 30 FPS lock. PS4 gamers are used to 30 FPS (see Tales of Zesteria) and no graphical options, so they won't complain about that stuff. The PC crowd is just used to options, and even if the game runs well it could still be a shit port if it doesn't give the user enough options.
>that camera
>>320986405
Figures. They rarely ever do.MGS: GZ spoiled me.
Tales of Bears looks like it's going to be 60fps from that trailer that recently came out.
And anyways, didn't someone already make Zesty Peanuts work in 60 fps? I think there's a youtube video of it somewhere.
>>320976801
the only problem with Zestiria was the 30 fps lock, everything was alright, stop being a dumbass.
Does offline co-op work well on PC ports?
I don't really want to buy a PS4 yet.
>>320987364
Offline co-op is removed completely in almost all PC ports.
>>320987361
Nah the battle system was absolute garbage and I've been a Tales fan since Symphonia/Abyss
The story was just on the border of OK but it's pretty much a twisted Arthur Pendragon mythos.
>>320987364
>>320987515
It works fine on Zestiria PC
Why can't /v/ just accept that JRPGs have their place on consoles and the majority of them are so low budget it doesn't matter? Oh right muh mustard race meme.
>>320984668
>Unless private profiles have drastically higher vidya consumption habits it should make no difference whatsoever.
then you should have numbers... right ?
>>320987626
i was talking about the port, that was the OP point, not the game itself.
I did the 60FPS mod and I beat it, how was it unplayable?
>>320987003
The video showed several angles though and the one thing that they said is that there would be more camera controls take it how you will.
>>320987884
What the fuck are you even trying to say?
>>320976801
>online only DRM
Bamco hasn't done this since GFWL died.
I heard Zestiria was a shit game, but was it any good as a PC port? The quality of that port should be an indication of the quality of Berseria's port, as opposed to the fear mongering in the OP.
Thanks for ruining the threads platform war faggots.
>>320988505
Durante (the guy who did DSFix among other things) did an analysis of it for PCGamer, you can look it up if you want. The tl;dr is that it was an excellent port aside from the 30 FPS lock, though that ended up getting modded away anyway so if you're willing to spend 5 minutes modding it's basically perfect.
>>320988665
Tales threads haven't been decent since before Graces came out.
>>320988665
It was bound to happen.
It's always bound to happen.
>>320988824
Still, it became even more unbearable after Zestiria (PC announcement and the alishafags/rosefags arguing).
>>320988505
It was a shitty game, but the port was good aside from 30 fps.
>>320976801
Yeah but think of the SFM porn
>>320988991
You mean like Lightning?
>>320988991
But there's no Zestiria SFM porn. Or unless I haven't seen any if there is some.
>>320988824
I am still for the next Phantasia remake, they will make another one
A Legendia remake is only in my dreams
