How the fuck did the ayy lmao's win?
Crits
>>320863801
I think the scenario where they Mind Control the Illusive Man is the canon ending to set up the sequel.
RNG
>>320863801
The good guys had a 98% chance to win
>>320863801
Alternative universe based on impossible difficulty where majority of players barely got past first two months. Commander got kidnapped and the aliens didn't fuck around and brought their full force at once.
>>320864047
This or something like "oh some humans traded the rest of humanity for power"
Earth tried to be secretive about the ayys for too long, which prevented from going all out with the combined military might of every country on the planet.
Humanity had a 95% chance to win but still missed the shot.
>>320864153
Is this image what I think it is?
>>320864198
>humanity submitted to the aliens for the promise of vr porn
Much more likely
>>320864198
>some humans traded the rest of humanity for power
They fell for the snek trap. suffer not the alien to live.
>>320863801
Did they ever say how far xcom research got before they lost?
>>320864290
If you mean this, yes.
>>320863801
They rolled better
>>320864430
My fucking dick.
>>320864374
Didn't even reach lasers.
>>320864461
>>320864430
>>320864153
>>320863801
DAY 1 BUY
DAY 1 BUY
DAY 1 BUY
DAY 1 BUY
>>320864374
Medikits I believe.
>>320864539
I don't get it, what's so great?
It just looks like the same exact shit from XCOM 1.
>>320864330
All hail our ayylmao overlords
I say XCOM failed when the headquarters got invaded or something.
>>320864590I also bought XCOM 1 day one.
>>320864330
>>320864342
Hey if i could have some sort of power or be a snakes playtoy id pick that over whatever the ayy lmaos do to humans
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/n8ySuBX.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>this was all just a test to see if you are worthy of ascension
>oh by the way I'll just mind control you and make you kill yourself
>guess you weren't worthy, nothing personelle, kiddo
>>320864153
Nah it's not so much that, they were making progress (be it with losses) it's just that countries dropped support very suddenly (mind control most likely) and then someone gave them intel on all the xcom bases because those got bombed to shit
VIGILO CONFIDO
PURGE AYY TRASH
REMOVE AYY SCUM
NINTENDO IS SHIT TOO
Isn't it something horribly failed at the last mission?
>>320864968
i feel something like this too, maybe lasted a bit longer than two months, and hadn't gotten that far into laser research, maybe prioritized other research, for, some reason.
but sadly, didn't get so far there into that field either.
>>320865412
No, they failed horribly and never got past conventional weapons.
As someone previously said, it was based on how many people were able to complete Impossible Ironman. Barely anyone could so they went with an Alien Win scenario.
If it is just like most have speculated, that it is set shortly after the second month of XCOM EU/EW, then why the hell someone would try to give the position of commander to the same guy that got blasted 20 years earlier? I think it is set shortly after the whole templar ship assault, like the alien empire just saw that humans have the possibility to become the next step to godhood and sent ALL their military power to earth or something like that.
>>320865537
Basically, they listened to Dr. Vahlen.
>>320865537
They did manage to down two ufo's, one of which they later (about 20 years later) found again and slowly worked on to make it usable for themselves.
>>320865691
>If it is just like most have speculated, that it is set shortly after the second month of XCOM EU/EW,
It it set several years after EU/EW if I remember correctly.
>>320865691
No, read the book. They didn't really get blasted either, they had losses sure but it was more the fact that suddenly all countries dropped support and then all xcom bases suddenly got struck, aka they were betrayed/leaders were mind controlled
Weren't the aliens in XCOM a fringe group that were trying to mold humanity into a force able to defeat the real threat? Or am I misremembering?
That seems like a better jumping off point instead of just rewriting it to be that you lost the war before it ever got good. Then this game starts with the real deal ayy lmaos steamrolling you back to the stone age and we get a timeskip.
>>320865821
I phrased it in a poor way, I wanted to say "it is set after the defeat on the second month of XCOM"
>>320865943
Sorry, what book are you talking about? Never heard of it
I want to be excited for this game but i just know that its gonna be total bullshit like xcom 1 was
those gameplay videos where he has that one unit dodge like 4 shots with 1 health bar left, ridiculous
what would really happen is
>all friendly units miss their mark with 80% accuracy,
>Aliens move in and kill the unit in the open with 1 hp
>rookie unit panics and shoots stacy bell,critical hit
>3 more enemies spawn in, get a free turn and flank your positions
im just gonna get mad and turn the game off, i can already feel it
>>320865691
because Bradford loves you and can't command troops for shit himself
>>320866025
Here, try this:------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------git gud--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>320864153
>justanotherdayforisaacclarke.jpg
>>320866025
Pretty much, once I realized they are just reiterating the gameplay instead of overhauling it I dropped my hopes and expectations.
>>320866025
at least it isn't long war
>overwatch to keep enemies from flanking you? fuck you, take lightning reflex chrysalids
>staying in tall cover so enemies cant hit you? fuck you, thin men acid spam
>>320866338
Yeah, when I realized that they were reworking a good framework to smooth out some of the kinks and adding new gameplay features, my hopes dropped too.
>>320866025
Never ever got people complaining about RNG in xcom. Even Braford tells you every single fucking mission "don't take any chances".
Anything below 70% shot is a huge fucking risk that should be taken only for the last fucking resort.
Anything that isn't 100% is something that can be taken only if you have a WORKING 100% SURE backup plan in case it misses. There's a reason why you should bring grenades on everyone except MAYBE the sniper and focus on giving all the promotions and medals on the heavies.
In case you cannot employ a 100% sure plan, YOU BACK THE FUCK UP AND HUNKER DOWN/OVERWATCH.
am I the only one that formed an attachment to the veteran during the first games tutorial?
>>320866813
faggot
>>320863801
As I understand it its an alternate timeline where the original xcom shot down the avengfer ship and the world council was mind controlled into pulling out. These are the only two note worthy events that differ from what would be the nomal EU campaign.
I assume that the avenger was so important to the aliens that they invested in a blitz to control the earth rather than let xcom tinker with it. Maybe we'll find out more about the back story.
I don't care about anything else but her being alive researching my things and telling me I'm a fuckup on missions.
>>320866631
Games that drop everything on random are just lazy designed.
Play more games and you will understand.
One thing I didn't like with XCOM was the free movement turn the aliens get when spotted. Pure bullshit.
>>320867068
Why would she do that when she's already working for ADVENT?
>>320867086
Name a better system used by a similar game.
>>320867131
I'm glad that shit is gone, imagine how much of a nightmare it would be now that the gameplay is supposedly about ambushing motherfuckers.
>>320867131
Yeah, it means that you can't get the drop on them, but it also means that they can't get the drop on you.
>>320864374
They figured out to turn the base machines on
>>320867224
>I'm glad that shit is gone
The scamper isn't gone. What would make you think it was?
>>320867086
Stop blaming the developers if you can't strategize in a game that is tens of times more casualized than the original xcom.
Also I'm sure that I have played way more games than you.
Overhyped game final fantasty is better TB game
They dropped down chryssalid's and shit right away
>>320867195
If that's true then she's a double agent.
>>320864779
>mfw the ephemerals have just been cycling recruits to find people with a high enough will Stat.
>They have literally gone through four entire species without finding one.
>mfw that's xcom baby.
>>320863801
How many times did you lose until you finally took a campaign.
>>320867384
Tricky developer lies. I won't be picking this up then.
>aliens posses mind control
How could you possibly win and why is this such a trope with aliens?
>mind control any human
>order them to all get naked, have one final orgy, send the men into the meat grinder and keep the women as human maggot farms
Like how could you expect to win? How is there any resistance left? Where's the porn?
>>320867941
>Tricky developer lies.
Or maybe you're just retarded?
>>320867941
Sounds more like a combination of wishful thinking and inattentiveness on your part desu
>>320863801
The canon difficulty is Ironman Impossible, as your first playthrough.
>>320866631
so should i invest in getting armor asap then?
every time i feel like its just one wrong move and then the entire mission is fucked
>>320867986
mind control has a chance to fail and your best mind controllers are still your small number of leaders
>>320868049
Ironman with all the glitches, right? So teleporting Squads and floating Mechtoids?
>>320868049
>The canon difficulty
Stop
Also that would mean the next games "canon" difficulty would be the same?
Cant wait for Xcom 3 where we play as sentient mush/goo attacking citys just cause thats what giant goo does
>>320868213
>Teleporting squads.
Hope so.
>Floating mechtoids.
Sounds dope.
>>320866446
Ok like what? What specifically are they fixing to make the game good this time around?
>>320866002
Yeah, I think. sort of?
Looked at the ending again and the mega-Etereal said that they were cast out, because the Etereals failed to ascend, "as 'they' thought we would".
Not sure who the mega-Etereal were tallking about.
A bigger badder group of ayys they were allied to or served before? A group that is now chasing their failed experiments?
But they were trying to use humanity as a way to jump ahead in their evolution.
But was it to get back into 'their' good graces and ascend as 'them' had hoped the Ethereals would?
Or to become strong enough to return and fuck 'them' up?
The ending is a bit, iffy, and I might be just a bit extra stupid.
>>320868418
>doesn't know anything about the game
>shitposts on a thread about it
>expects to be spoonfed
Try GameFAQs before posting next time.
>>320868345
Straight from the horse's mouth.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/11/xcom-2s-bleak-future-why-impossible-iron-man-mode-is-canon-ign-first
>“We've all had our losses with XCOM, and so we use kind of a light touch. But the idea is that XCOM never made it out of conventional weapons; that the aliens came in overwhelming force and overwhelming numbers,” he said. “To say Impossible Iron Man is canon is perfect. We think that’s basically the experience that XCOM had.”
>>320863927
muh sides
also yeah, fuck those early game bullshit crits
>TACTICAL GUERILLA COMBAT
>>320868501
So nothing? I'm legit curious, don't be such a fanboy.
>>320863801Commander forgot to break LoS
>>320868791
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=list+of+xcom+2+changes
>>320863801
You should play Enemy Unknown to find out.
>>320868618
Yeah thats right but its still an alternate timeline
>>320869217
Nice headcanon bro.
>>320868941
>Gamefaqs in purple.
Ewwwwwww
>>320869324
>Solomon: Yeah, I view it as – you can already hear the designer bullshit coming out in my voice, but – this is the way I view it, and I think it’s fair, when we were talking about this idea we were like,"You know, the setting for XCOM 2 is actually going to be if XCOM lost the first game." And I think a lot of people had this reaction of, "Wait a minute, I just invested all this time and I beat XCOM." To me it feels like every time you start a new game of XCOM, you’re kind of spinning off an alternate universe – and so, in the worlds where you beat XCOM, there just never was an XCOM 2, you know?
>>320869324
so you think its not an alternate universe? Then why would they even let us win in Xcom EW?
>>320869458
>being such a purist that you'll willingly deny yourself information
ok
>>320869623
>Being a cuck who frequents gamefaqs.
Out you go.
>>320869609
The same reason they still let you lose games that have sequels based on the assumption that you won?
>>320869736
>look at 1 thread
>haha you must frequent gamefaqs
neo-/v/, everyone.
>>320867198
Silent Storm is plain better in every way as game mechanics go
>>320867485
XCOM is extra casual
Pretending it to be some deep mind breaking puzzle just because the odds are stacked you is intellectually dishonest.
It's like playing CivV on Deity.
>tip toeing around map
>If I can't see the enemy they don't exist!
>>320869842
>believing in neo-/v/.
Betacuck detected.
>>320869546
In that sense, every single time you start any video game over again you are playing an alternate version of that universe.
So yeah, the games are alternate universe in the same way every video game is.
>>320869736
I wonder when this new batch of 12 year olds will grow out of this obsession over the word cuck.
The idea that the force we fought was a vanguard, and seeing our potential saw them bring their full force to try and make us better but we're still like "Fuck that" would have made a better sequel.
Also explains how guys who didn't get past bullets managed to capture a fucking alien cruiser.
>>320869923
>i'm n-n-not a n-newfag!
>n-newfags don't e-exist!
>c-c-cuck!
>>320868941
Well it looks exactly the same but with more gun mod tweaks.
I guess it'll be worth a pirate.
New chryssalid design a shit
A SHIT
>>320870014
>Greentext stuttering.
Unreal.
>>320869878
Silent Storm still had % to hit.
>>320869942
>smug pokemon avatar setting up shop
Man this is really a /vg/ thread isn't it.
>>320869791
so you're admitting that its alternate? Checkmate.
>>320869992
It would also require Samus to lose all of her weapons yet again. And I really don't see what's supposed to be better about losing in the opening cutscene of the game as opposed to before it.
>>320870105
First time you've seen it, newefendi?
So is Bradford okay
>>320867068
>>320867195
Yeah I can easily see her switching sides.
>>320870105
No, Doom.
>>320870150
Stay mad, laddie.
>>320870231
No, I've seen plenty of desperate posters on the ropes resort to it before they claim to leave the thread but remain regardless.
>>320870254
Fuck.
>>320870248
Probably whatever faction lets her chop up living bodies.
>>320870241
He's Central again.
>>320870101
Reminds me of Muv Luv
Speaking of which, have some PTSD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5JICa_ZxBk
>>320870113
Yes
But it did it better
The % is for EACH bullet and they do not go to another dimension on hit or miss.
Shooting with LMG feels like shooting LMG and not rifle with +1 DMG -10% to accuracy.
>>320870401
the guy int he gameplay videos didnt sound like him I was wondering
>>320870241
He's a defeated husk only powered by his neverending hate for aylums and the eternal love for his commander.
>>320870254
>>320870326
>desperate posters
Isn't this what you are right now?
>>320869878
Enemies move around in the fog of the map looking for you as well. Im not sure if it worked in base game, but in long war you can hear the sounds of units moving around the map and can tell what you're going against during the alien turn
>>320870434
Yeah, he's punished Varric now. They changed the VA.
>>320870434
He spent twenty years drinking whiskey, smoking cigars and gargling with gravel.
>>320870241
Yeah he's alive
Did they say what the ayys implanted in your brain yet?
>>320870165
Yep. Though now that we've established that every video game play-through and sequel is technically a different universe, I wonder why you were so insistent that we acknowledge this game is also an alternate universe.
>>320870440
Is going to pull a venom snake and be all eye-patch grizzled veteran merc warlord with cyber hand?
>>320870430
I'm not denying that Silent Storm was better, I'm denying the claim that it was about the RNG system that's common in these games.
>>320870467
No, I'm just funning you. I don't really have a problem with gamfaqs but wanted to push your buttons anyways because I have a crush on you.
>>320870514
>>320870540
And Ayy lmao Lady double crossed us and Shen died?
SpoilersThe volunteer actually warped himself into this timeline before the attack, but decided to help the aliens to avoid bloodshed this time
>>320870481
And they still do diddly squat until you see them yourself and fail the roll to disbelieve.
>>320870546
Would play
I hope they change how base building works. The spam while every country panics wasnt fun at all.
>>320870582
Sorry anon, but I'm taken bymy 2d Mongolian waifu.
>>320870601
Vahlen has disappeared. We don't actually know that she's a defector.
Shen is dead.
>>320870209
It's still 20 years later or whatever. Plenty of time for XCOM to have had their shit stomped and reformed to steal the ship. Also yet continues to explain why anyone would flock to join a bunch of losers that lasted 2 months 20 years ago.
>>320870616
Aliens are implied to carry out massive experiment projects using people are lab mice. So he probably miscalculated if that was his thinking.
>>320870601
Vahlen? She was raping ayys for years after XCOM fell apart and then went into hiding.
>>320870616
No Colonel "Lifeline" Murrey, how could you betray me.
>>320870549
because you denied it first
>>320870759
How many cosmetic DLC's do you think they'll sell?
>Terror Mission
>Zimbabwe
Are Suicide vests in?
>>320870575
There is magnitude of difference of RNG usage.
And we were talking about ll-around combat design anyway.
Look at this
Budget game that added more tools and options than XCOM (but still uses the stupid full hit or full miss system)
XCOM feels like board game ported to PC
>>320870838
Only one that's purely cosmetic.
>>320870838
Hopefully as many as I can throw money at.
>>320867131
>>320867131
IN THE ORIGINAL THEY SHOT YOU ON YOUR TURN
>>320870739
I mean in this post.
>>320869217
before I ever posted.
![EXALT_Agents_2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5yZ7Uh9.jpg "EXALT_Agents_2[1].jpg")
Will we ever get any closure with Xalt?
That whole expansion went nowhere.
That final mission was such a let down.
>>320870930
Yeah, but it still uses the RNG system.
>>320870759
Call of Duty: Ayyydvanced Warfare?
>>320868745
How long until we can behead a snek live on air to recruit rookies for the glory of XCOM
>>320871076
What kind of closure? They were pretty decisively wiped out in the original timeline, and in this new timeline they wouldn't exist.
>>320871076
In long war it was a fucking impossible mission. I squeezed by with explosives on every mission prior, then when I go to the final one everyone of them has plasma weapons when I just got laser and they're all bullet sponges. Also there were 100 of them.
>>320871076
>Tommy Two-Brows and his Caterpillar Gang
>>320871080
Jesus
Probably only Invisible Inc is the only TRPG with no RNG combat.
The question is HOW YOU IMPLEMENT IT numbnut
>>320871115
if that was a part of the game I would eat my RUDDY HAT
>>320871270
Frozen Synapse doesn't use RNG, either.
>>320871185
Yeah, it was so disappointing.
Now the theme of the game is shifted so they are pretty much irrelevant now. What a shame.
>>320871270
No, you fucking autist. I asked for a system that was better than RNG, and you provided me with systems that were RNG done better.
>>320869878
>XCOM is extra casual
Its a matter of thinking of how to power game. Load up all rookies with high explosive. Their lives mean nothing until you get some really good armor, even then. fuck em. By the time you get to psionics you'll have some good soldiers that survived that mess, and if you got psionics you probably also got the blaster launcher meaning you just won the fucking game there.
Same shit can be said about Xenonauts. The AI in both games isn't challenging, it just gets a shot out of the shroud of war at you. Then you just level the entire area where that shot came from.
>>320871247
Eggsalt missions in LW are fucking ridicolous in general. It feels like your some poor German general on the eastern front trying to defeat a bottomless supply of angry, drunk Russians.
>>320870546
VIGILO CONFIDO
VIGILO CONFIDO
VIGILO CONFIDO
>>320871331
It was hardly a RPG in TRPG
Didn't the non explosive weapons had RNG spread?
>>320871382
Invisible Inc
Great design
When you fuck up YOU FUCK UP and no rolling will save you
>>320871718
The spread is just eye candy. The calculations underneath are deterministic.
>>320870759
>they let you customize your dudes
>but if they die you are supposed to not care and just keep on trucking
I don't get it.
Make up your minds, is this a roguelike or an RPG.
If you are encouraging multiple disposible playthroughs then why does it take so damn long.
If you are encouraging long haul strategy then what's with the deep swings if you fail missions and lose troops.
If you want characterization then
>>320872001
>why does it take so damn long.
Enemy Unknown isn't really a long game.
>>320872001
You can save your customized soldiers to a pool that you can load into any game or give to other players and assign them to appear as soldiers, scientists, engineers, Advent scum, etc.
>>320864198
>some humans traded the rest of humanity for power
>>320870101
>even less HP
>killed soldiers turn into an harmless cocoon
>you have like 3 turn to destroy the cocoon
WHY? it doesn't matter how many will spawn if is almost impossible to make that happen
>>320872317
/pol/ was right
/pol/ is always right
>>320872236
Oh that's pretty cool.
Like a genebank.
>>320872001
Whether you care or not is up to you. In real life when a soldier dies they were a person with their own hopes and dreams and they're gone forever, but their fellow soldiers still have to carry on. That's just war.
>>320872317
Even aliens wouldn't trust Jews yo.
>>320872354
Yeah, I'm kind of worried about the cocoon thing. Although this does mean that you get (number of civilians) * 3 extra chryssalids.
>>320871860
huh
It's hard to make it as TRPG as the rest of this group.
Unless Cannon Fodder and Worms are from the same family as xcom.
>>320863801
Savescumming isn't canon.
>>320869736
the dude clicked on one link off a google search results page
are you the same guy that complains every time someone posts something from google images that has a tumblr filename in it
Who Classic Ironman here?
>>320872354
if it's anything like EU it also means that citizens killed offscreen aren't turning into zombies that'll charge after you and let you kill them, you have to rush to the cocoon
>>320866025
Gotta git gud.
>>320872767
The percentage of offscreen civilians that turn depends on your difficulty setting.
What if they reduce the impact of RNG with the miracle system?
You gain miracle points depending on how effective you are.
If your chance of success is at least 85%, you can spend a miracle point to turn that roll to 100%. Otherwise you can't use it at all.
>>320863801
PC only?
>>320873084
Or you can just learn how numbers work and not make a bunch of shitty rolls.
>>320873161
Yeah.
>>320873084
Making the game more casual isn't the way to go, the dice love nobody.
>>320872531
>>320872767
>implying that aliens will kill civilians at all
>>320873364
Of course they will. Retaliation missions will be to XCOM 2 what terror missions were to Enemy Unknown.
>>320873364
>Missions where civilians attack you and you have to not harm them.
Fuck
>>320864198
fucking X-Files
>>320873241
>>320873307
That system isn't casual at all, you could only spend like 2 point ever mission (which you have to build up need I remind you). The purpose is just to make a crucial shot count.
Positioning will still be just as important as before. And you are still screwed if your hit percentage is below 85%
>>320873505
Man I wish I could equip everyone with painful but nonlethal stun prods and fuck up some traitorous human civvies.
>>320873627
It would make the game easier with no trade offs, thus casualizing it.
>>320870481
enemies in the fog are totally harmless, that's the main problem
in the original all the aliens were always active, and were all on overwatch on turn 1
>>320873825
That's a pretty retarded definition of the word. Especially since there are plenty of knobs the designers could turn in the other direction.
>>320873825
RNG doesn't make the game require more skill.
Or would you rather introduce the RNG factor in the chance your units will trip and fall flat on their face when moving.
Or RNG factor the chance of a meteor landing on you.
Or the RNG factor of Aliens immediately discovering your base
Or the RNG factor your units suddenly coming down with a massive explosive diarrhea in the middle of the mission.
>having trouble with chryssalids
>at all
the trick is not to overwatch against them, grenades/rockets and just staying out of one movement range (they will have to move twice to get to you, if you haven't killed them by then you're pretty fucking dumb).
daily reminder that peoples that complain about RNG always bitch about the fact that they missed 4 80% shots or that one of their soldier got critted, but they ignore things like thinman missing a flank or rookies hitting 20% shots
>>320867384
Not that guy but I watched a gameplay video recently which seemed to show the scamper was gone. They're focusing on guerilla tactics so it's possible to spot the enemies without them spotting you now.
>>320874413
yes
>>320874332
Those sound kind of cool actually. I haven't been following what you guys are discussing, but that sounds cool.
>>320874413
There's no scamper if you're concealed. Unfortunately as soon as you fire your weapon, well...
Also fuck off street sign captcha.
>Hard Longwar Ayyy Lmao vs Impossible Vanilla Ayyy Lmao
Who would win?
Did nobody pay attention to XCOM's story?
Even if you "win" the campaign, you don't actually defeat the alien invasion.
The entire point of them attacking was slowly leaking technology to humans untill we managed to induce psy-powers in humans.
They basically wanted a hardier psychic support race than the Sectoids.
Even when you defeat the "overlords" at the end of the game, they say they were just lackeys working for a greater power.
If the aliens wanted to conquer earth, they would have day 1. They have limitless troops and aircraft, but purposefully throttle their invasion.
>>320873505
If this doesn't happen, it will be tremendously wasted potential.
>>320874413
There are about seven dozen gameplay videos on youtube now and they all show that the scamper works exactly like it did in Enemy Unknown. That is, enemies get a free move when they first spot you. Them not spotting you while you're concealed is a different story entirely.
>>320874332
Not the guy you're replying to.
If there was a way to prepare for it or have gameplay around it then it is based on skill.
the reason RNG is linked to skill is because it's RNG, meaning you have to be prepared for the absolute randomness that can be thrown at you, if you didn't know what you were doing then you'd get destroyed.
>>320874413
That's entirely not true. After you make your very first shot or run into a detection square the enemies you see will scamper and every single other pod you run into will scamper like normal.
>>320874596
>No mission to kill innocent civilians and frame ayy lmaos to make public opinion turn against them and incite riots.
dey was good humans, dey dindu nuffin
Damn, this game gets hard as fuck pretty fast
My mvp that was alive since the start of the game just died to one fucking mech, some bitch panicked and I had to abort
>>320874403
>not to overwatch
Confirmed for not knowing what you're talking about. You can get two shots out of a guy if you play it right, and that LMG does a lot of damage. Been ages since i played but you should overwatch them in certain situations.
>>320874914
If you're not seeing any Ayys, you better be in cover and overwatch every time you advance.
>>320874761
It would be interesting if you were offered these "evil" missions that would help your goals, but damage morale as a result, or something. Do them too much, and your troops and supporters stop believing in your cause.
>>320869878
>Silent Storm is plain better in every way as game mechanics go
too bad ss was a rng shitfest as much as xcom
>how did aliens win?
50% of xcom soldiers were female
>>320874796
The mechs are the worst. The nice thing about them, though, is you don't have to take them alive. I always forget this on a new game and wind up getting people killed trying to keep them at low health.
>>320863801
culturayy marxism
>>320875136
A section 31 in XCOM. That would be rad.
>>320874581
Wow geniusboy here achieved CHIM.
>>320875043
Good point, mixed groups are a different case, you need focused power or complete dashes back just to set up for it.
I don't get people who bash the RNG system.
I can understand wanting to flip the table when you miss a 99% chance shot, but what fun is a game where if you make all the right decisions you cannot possibly lose? Isn't that what makes playing against another person fun in games? The risk of failure is what makes winning against the odds exhilarating.
Just the same with people's issues with permadeath. Being unwilling to put in that investment into a character only to have it lost makes the investment trivial and meaningless.
Is is just a difference in values? Do you hate losing more than you like winning? That would be perfectly justifiable, but as it stands I think this system is in place to make both victory and defeat less trivial.
>>320874914
of course you can overwatch sometimes, but if the lead chryssalid has Lightning Reflexes you are fucked
Isn't Xcom2 gonna fix the issue with all overwatches taking their shot at the same time?
>>320876432
>but what fun is a game where if you make all the right decisions you cannot possibly lose
Not being sure whether you made the right decision because the game is complex enough to not just let you look up the right decision in a table.
>>320876496
Yes.
>>320876432
>but what fun is a game where if you make all the right decisions you cannot possibly lose?
Satisfaction of planning and execution.
If something is random then if you "win" its because you didn't get screwed and if you "lose" there was nothing you could have done.
Better to have a robust system that the player can optimize than a series of dice rolls to see the next cutscene.
I wonder if some of the XCOM recruits are gonna turn out to be Alien spies.
Like CIA agents in ISIS
>>320876786
I gotta believe you put them through the CAT scan during indoc.
>>320864153
is this Long War bullshit?
>instead of chances all attacks always land but their total damage reduced by factors (armor, distance, positioning, height advantage, ect)
>now there is no RNG
I realize this probably wouldn't be very balanced, but it would still be interesting to play
>>320876939
That's XCOM 2.
stupid sexy sneks
>>320875136
Never understood this whole "stop believing in your cause" crap.
The same way I don't understand countries pulling out of the project.
It's either pump money into the project and maybe win or fucking get murdered and used as food for the aliens. There's no middle ground and you sure as shit can't fight the aliens alone. But hurr durr I don't like you, fuck you go save us and the world alone.
>allow sneks into the base because they say they want to marry me
Man, I'd be a terrible commander.
>>320876432
it's beacuse some peoples don't understand how RNG works, they think that if you flip a coin and get head, the next flip will have better chanches to get tail, or that is totally impossible to roll 3 dices and get all 1
>>320876432
Because people get comfortable with it working in their favor and then rely on it so much that it eventually fucks them over. It's an easy thing to bash because rather than adapting to it and incorporating failure into your plan you can just go "fucking no skill RNG bullshit" and people will agree with you.
>>320877202
>not just allowing it into the vivisection chamber
>>320876618
>>320876782
Ah, so for you the RNG makes the decision more trivial, since success or failure doesn't lie entirely with you. I guess I can appreciate that, but I see it as an effort to shape the best possible outcome (or tactical situation), and knowing that it could go tits-up in spite of all your planning just makes it more interesting for me.
Also, there's the fact that the enemy can fail just as hard for the same reasons, which really helps against my urges to call "bullshit" when I get bad rolls.
>>320877165
In XCOM 2, you are trying to show humanity that aliens are the bad guys. But if you do things like murder civilians, you wouldn't really be convincing a lot of people. Unless you uncover some truly heinous alien plots, like turning other humans into a slurry nutrient paste to keep the other ones fed, or using them to fuel their ship furnace or something. The aliens have established a favorable public image now. It's a fight of charisma and ideals.
But for XCOM EU you have a point. Then again, maybe those countries decide to fight the aliens with their own resources and don't know how fucked they are without you.
>>320876786
Does...anyone want alien traitors?
Like, actual alien defectors who want to liberate humanity?
>>320877338
stop blaming the RNG, even if the game had a realistic ballistic system you will still have chaches to hit and miss
>>320877568
literally space jews
>>320877568
What they decide is that surely, the aliens can't be that bad, and maybe we can negotiate some kind of favorable surrender if we stop giving them trouble. Then a UFO lands for negotiations and next thing they don't know the entire government is mind controlled.
>>320877202
You'll get what's coming to you, scum.
>>320877785
I want MECs to be in the base game. And I want alien/human hybrids as DLC. The more developed the hybrid is, the less it looks like a human and the more it acts like an alien. It's a fight between maintaining humanity and potentially losing or surrendering your identity and cubstomping the aliens with their own tech.
>>320877785
Fuck off.
so are psi powers / shivs gonna be in the game? i havent really look at much stuff
>>320877787
>realistic ballistic system
Wtf are you talking about. I haven no idea what you're talking about and I'm not blaming the RNG, I'm saying that getting a bad roll can be disappointing.
>>320877785
Depends on how it was handled
I suppose we're a generation into the occupation, so it's possible there would be some ayys who grew up being fed the propaganda along with the natives. They'd probably feel even more betrayed than human recruits on discovering the abductions and mass experimentation etc. in that case.
Alternately, it could easily be cack-handed shit.
>>320877785
that would be interesting
>>320878046
Psi powers haven't been shown, but it's a pretty fair bet that they will be in the game.
Shivs haven't been shown either, and I don't really think they'll be in.
So what's the 5th class in Xcom 2? The summer DLC is releasing a 6th class that's supposedly fully fleshed out, but they haven't said officially what the 5th class is.
Alien defector class?
So is long war getting a big update soon? or can i reinstall xcom without having to fuck around soon after
>>320874561
Long war gives fuckers 80-ish hp and everyone and their grandmother has lightning reflexes. Also LW airgame wins by default.
