Soulsfags will defend this.
>>320833562
It's optional.
>>320833562
But many people think its bad (The entirety of chalice dungeons that is)
>>320833562
>complaining about optional challenges intended for highly-skilled players
OP IS CLEARLY NOT A HIGHLY SKILLED PLAYER
>>320833562
Just max vit
>inb4 b-but I can't level up anymore because I want to be an elite think trthard with all the cool gems I'll get
Then don't complain when you spend hours on one defiled fight
>>320834303
But not if you want platinum.
The idea was neat, like an area with gems, upgrade materials and weapon variations but holy fuck were they bad.
>>320834467
Getting a plat is optional.
>>320834529
Is it?
>>320834303
>>320834391
>have to go through it if you want to fight a main story boss and a huge part of the lore
>optional
>>320834563
if you dont have autism , is it
>>320834563
Yes.
What kind of question is that?
Only bullshit part is defiled amygdala, keeper is staggered effortlessly by any weapon, and watchdog has like two attack patterns to memorize.
>complaining about optional content that is harder than the main game
Have you ever played a video game ever?
Other then some of the bosses I didn't find them that difficult.
>>320834615
IS IT ANON? THINK HARD.
what is it?
>Watchdog Of The Old Lords
>>320834576
Yeah, it is optional, faggot. Like doing the entire Chocobo Breeding/Racing sidequest in FFVII so you can find Lucrecia's Cave. That's very important for the lore, and yet it's optional and the story still works without it.
>>320834636
>amy hard
Bait his arm swings and smack his arms. Then when he pulls off his arm run to his legs and just smack then. When he jumps he always lands facing you so if you just roll forward you wont get hit.
>>320834576
Not really. It is just a boss that is important to the backstory which you meet but don't fight in the main game anyway.
>make a str/arcane build because i want to use the moonlight sword
>tontirus just ends up being better
>>320834812
>attacking amygdala's legs
You wot?
>>320834682
Alright autist.
On the topic of Chalice Dungeons. They are annoying but at least From added something to make the game have more content and has been said they're all optional.
>>320834965
Not that guy, but attacking his legs is the safest method to kill him in his last phase. Otherwise you will be at risk of being ohk by him after working your ass to get him to 25% hp.
Chalice dungeon progress ought to be account wide. Making a new character and rushing through five dungeons just to get gems for a build is rough stuff.
>>320835079
>wanting to play the game to completion is autism
Stop trying so hard to fit in.
>>320835339
>cheevos = completion
literal autism
How do I even get this thing? I've done a shit-load of dungeons and I just get a chalice with another location.
>>320835170
Or they could just make gem progression better.
>>320834576
???moon presence???
>>320833562
Actual fags will bait with this.
>>320835509
>if I repeat buzzwords enough times he'll have to see I'm right
Now this is autism.
>>320836313
>meme
>counter meme with no argument
you are so much worse than the other guy right now.
>>320833562
No I won't.
Chalice dungeons suck.
I don't "hate" chaloce dungeons, but I do wishthere was a better way to grind for bloodgems. It's murder getting to lower depths for every new build. They are slow and often boring, and I hate having to grind just to get to a lower depth just so that I can grind
That being said lately the short chalice is fucking amazing for pvp and coop
I can't. Chalice Dungeons is the worst mechanic ever introduced in a souls game. Locking story content and weapon gems behind it is just cruel.
>>320834725
Do people actually have trouble with this boss? Wtf?
>>320837113
>This dungeon is too hard!! How come there is content behind it?!?!?
Newsflash, assholes. The reason everybody hates these is because they are boring as fuck, not because we are bad at video games. Jesus fuck.
>>320833562
Hey guys I'm a bit stuck in bloodborne can you help me out?
I just beat the witch of rimjobs and Dark Beast Paarl and have no idea where to go next. I already beat bloodstarved and Amalia where should I go next?
>People can't do defiled Amy
Stand behind it
He Jumps
Turn around
Charge R2
Hit him in the head
Repeat
>>320837743
I beat Defiled Amy with Queen Killer and spamming Ex Gloves till I got a visceral on him, then spammed ash'd evelyn on him during the rest of the fight while Queen Killer distracted him.
>>320837202
It is KIND OF hard in the defiled chalice. But it's pretty do-able^^
>>320837697
You should have gotten a custscene after beating Amelia. You need to go to the forbidden forest. If you didn't get the cutscene, go back to grand cathedral and activate the altar in it. You then get a password you can use to open a door to the forbidden forest. The entrance to the forbidden forest is pretty close to cathedral ward. If you remember the plaza with the two giants in it one of them guards the way to get there.
Soulsfag here.
They had potential but the execution sucked and they are shit.
Just like bloodgems.
Defiled for worst but best feeling for clearing knowing filthy casuals get stuck forever.
>>320836792
>guy has been memeing from the start
>thinks I'm going to type a serious response to "win" an argument on the internet
>implying this isn't bait
>slog through defile chalice dungeon because I wanna fight the queen later
>mad as fuck every step of the way
>find out it's the wrong chalice dungeon
That's when I stopped. I didn't finish the DLC either.
>>320838585
kek
>>320838585
>IT'S SHIT SINCE I CAN'T BEAT IT
>>320838960
I beat it but it was the wrong one. I don't feel like fighting instakill fire dog again. Ever. Goddammit!
I'll get back to it at some point, but right now I'm defeated.
>>320839240
Don't you only get the root chalice if you beat the normal one?
>>320834791
you can use the sub to get there
Should they try to implement something like the CD in DaS3?
First reaction was fuck no, but what if they could learn from the mistakes and make them actually randomized and keep the appearance fresh? They'd have to implement the outdoor areas of the main game to do it. It would be nice if they could get it right, but I don't think they can. It would also probably take too much away from the main game.
>>320839514
Yeah, if you're a pussy.
Why do japs like farming for random stats so much?
Fixed Gems could work but randomly generated shit is so fucking cancerous.
Its like playing a timesink mmo. I don't see the point.
>>320833562
It doesn't need to be defended, it's perfect. An actual test of skill. The entire game you get conditioned to rely on the rally system and your surplus health. The Defiled chalice merely takes that away and demands that you don't get hit.
Not difficult in the slightest unless you're bad at video games. If it's too hard for you then stick to the base game.
>>320833562
>too pleb to beat Defiled chalice
>had to grind to 99 health
>>320839663
Illusion of length. Thrill of discovery.
>>320840245
It is just so weird.
It seems like otherwise the game is about quality over quantity but the fucking gems completely ruin it.
>>320837697
Go to the guy who asks you for the paaaaaaaaaasword.
>>320837113
There is story content? I'm close to finishing the lower pthumeru and I've seen nothing.
No I fucking won't
Chalice dungeons were a failure as a game mechanic and the "plot" chalice dungeons are fucking awful
>>320840335
Japs gonna Jap. But if you aren't going for Arcane and maybe BLT, you can survive with 22% gems the brains drop over at fishing hamlet
>>320839586
I would love to see a game that is just straight up Diablo with Souls mechanics, but I don't think I ever want to see anything like CD in Souls games ever again. The strength of these games is level design, and a big part of that too is how Souls games have very discrete loot. I like that you can know exactly where to go to get certain items or weapons and how that informs playthroughs of the game. The inherent shittiness of CD's reusable dungeon tiles (even when they're not randomly generated), the random loot, and the fucking god damn bullshit blood gem grind don't mesh well with what I like about these games.
>depth 5 chalices are supposed to be deep underground
>some areas still have natural light coming in
>>320839461
I did the Cursed Pthumerian Defilement instead of the regular defiled one, they have the same bosses. It sucked.
Is there any chance from has heard the complaints about the chalice dungeons and blood gems or do they only get Japanese fan responses and they think they were a huge success?
>>320835339
All I said was that the plat was optional.
You stop trying so hard to start a shitposting thread.
>>320840617
The final boss of the chalice dungeons has connections to the lore.
Calling it story content is a bit of a stretch.
>>320840837
>natural
It's magic, bitch.
>>320841431
those are the same chalice you tard
>>320833562
It gets rough at some parts but it's not all that bad.
>>320842981
Well I just killed Bloodletting beast and got another dumb chalice. So I don't have to use that just go kill Amygdala in that other dungeon and be done?
>>320839586
they would have to fix the grind in some way
or change it in a way that would be meaningful for the actual game.
Like put a weapon or piece of gear at the end of the final boss of the area. Have it be a random chance to be anything from a loot table of desirable gear.
the current Chalice Dungeon is ridiculously boring and the only reason to do it is for the 100% completion trophy.
>>320843491
Just do all the non-root chalice in order.
>>320843760
I was amazed at how bad the "handmade" story CD looked. That tileset looks like ass, and when that's expected to be the endgame, just no. The incentive just isn't there either.
I guess I'd rather see a way to make bosses in an area respawn in your current game without copying the bonfire ascetic.
>>320833562
>Soulsfags
>Bloodborne
not a souls game though
>>320833562
Massive soulsfag here, I think theyre shit.
>tfw will never fight the queen
>>320834931
Well moonlight is a quality weapon
>>320845703
I remember looking at the pre release advertising stuff for the game and the CD was a major part of their marketing push.
The fact the majority of /v/ is shitting on them just proves that most of /v/ are playing the chalice dungeons wrong.
They are literally made for co-op, and particularly bro-op. Easy souls, easy vermin, lots of fun.
>>320833562
I don't have a PS4 so I can't.
I won't defend any of the chalice dungeons, they're garbage. The Defiled one is just slightly more annoying than the rest because the bosses will probably OHKO you.
Can someone explain what a chalice dungeon is to someone who's never played a souls game?
>>320847808
ya lemme just pay 15 dollars to sign up for co-op
>>320848443
Randomly generated dungeons mostly made for grinding, but you need to beat some of them for 100% completion. They're only in Bloodborne. They're also shit.
>>320847808
"It's fun with friends" is the shittiest possible justification for these things. The rest of the game is fun with friends too, and it's not a tedious, repetitive, poorly-designed slog like the chalice dungeons are.
>>320848791
>randomly-generated dungeon
that makes sense, actually. thank you anon.
