we're done talking about fo4 already?
ANOTHER SETTLEMENT HAS ASKED FOR OUR HELP. I'LL MARK IT ON YOUR MAP WE COULD ALWAYS USE MORE PEOPLE FOR OUR CAUSE
Yeah.
>>320727143
*smacks lips*
I've got something a little different for you
Yes, that's just what we wanted, Bethesda, more MMO tutorial-tier quests.
>>320726965
dlc is coming in the future
Can anyone explain to me what happens on an institute playthrough? Like what exactly is the purpose of the institute, to replace humans with synths?
I kinda just shot my kid in the head and let democracy bot assfuck that place. '
>shaun: I am the father now.
Fuck no you aren't.
>>320726965
>>320727143
> go help settlement, come back to report success
>Tells me about another settlement under attack that needs help.
>look at map
ITS THE SAME FUCKING SETTLEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah, I'd say I'm done. It's nothing but Radiant quests from here on out
>>320726965
>I've something different for you this time
>Check my quest log
>I did this exact quest 30 minutes ago
Thanks le radiant quest man.
>>320727515
fuck
>>320727515
I sure do L O V E fetch quests
Thanks Bethesda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>320727656
shit forgot to post this
>>320727452
they're just asshole scientists that want robot slaves and conduct FEV experiments
What are the essential mods to get?
>>320727346
That summarizes my feelings after starting it pretty well
>>320727824
There's a great mod that makes it so that when you're playing Fallout 4, there's a small window at the top right of the screen with an uninstall button you can click when you realize the game is garbage.
>>320727824
The uninstall wizard
It's a fucking boring, repetitive game with the depth of my toilet. CK isn't out yet.
>>320727452
The Institute has no goal, they do science underground and that's it. Shaun comes above ground once, takes a look around and says "this place is fucked, we're staying underground forever".
Replacing people with synths seems to be a covert method of carrying out experiments above ground and gathering intelligence. There's no "grand conspiracy" to replace every single man, woman and child with synths.
>>320726965
Not much to talk about desu.
Even normies got over it much quicker than Skyrim.
>>320727452
>Can you go and get us back one of the freed synths that is now a raider boss? Cool thanks.
>BTW, we need parts for a nuclear reactor for science.
>Now that we have all that nuclear energy that we needed for reasons, would you mind going to the Railroad and the Brotherhood and murdering everyone? Thanks.
>Ok you're the Director now, time for me to die. Don't expect to actually use your new title in any way because literally nothing will change once we're done talking.
>have to complete x number of radiant quests before the faction gives real quests
thanks todd
>>320727515
>The only good thing about new vegas was the fact that they were allowed to use Bethesda's engine
Holy fuck, how can anyone, even a turbo normal think Gamebryo is good.
>no level cap, no stats
>your build literally doesn't matter at all because you can just grind levels to make yourself the archmage of the wasteland
There's only about 100 unique quests in this game, and I think 20 of them are for factions and you can't complete all of them after you cut ties with the other ones.
In my opinion the top 5 non story quests in no order were
1)The big dig
2)Cabot Quests line
3)Silver Shroud
4) Human Error
5) That quest where you clear out the meat factory, just cause I thought it had a cool dungeon and turn of events
But besides that I can't even remember any quests, it was still fun but the quests were just not good.
>>320726965
Yeah. Really fucking lackluster.
>>320728204
>5) That quest where you clear out the meat factory
The one with the guy that sells potted meat? How the hell do you start that? When I entered I got the whole thing with the trader complaining about the meat poisoning people but talking to either of them doesn't actually lead to anything interesting.
>hundreds of locations to explore
>all of them are boring abandoned buildings with pipe pistol loot
I'm surprised you guys talked about it for as long as you did tbqh
I couldn't get past the first three hours
>>320728071
Seriously? So it wasn't just me that didn't understand at all what the fucking point of the institute was?
>show up to institute
>hi i am your son the father, check out this fucking place i got yo
>check out place
>okay see ya! oh and if you want to help us out that'd be cool
>come back later, HOW COULD YOU BETRAY US WITH ALL THE IMPORTANT WORK WE DID AND BLA BLAH BLAH
>shot him in the fucking face
>can i come with you daddy
>fuck you toaster alarm clock, you are not my son
Fuck at least the brotherhood had like, a point, and a purpose. The institute gives you literally no reason to support it after you show up, i still don't believe that old faggot was my son.
>>320728380
I started it by trespassing. I tried to get it to start by talking to npcs but nope.
>>320727515
honestly my first playthrough of NV was crap. because i played it like fo3 (ergo follow quest marker and shoot the baddies)
>>320728380
You have to go on an elevator that takes you to the basement
4 is about as shallow as a kiddie pool. There is nothing that makes me want to do a second playthrough and choose a different faction.
>>320726965
I only had fun when I got this baby
So is the only way to get the BOS officer uniform to kill Brandis when he's hidden in the bunker?
>>320728463
>shaun acts like he wanted you to come to the institute the entire fucking time
>half the fucking game institute spends trying to kill you/prevent you from reaching the institute
>have to literally force your way into the institute and then suddenly were buddies
Does he EVER give any concrete evidence that he is in fact your son?
>>320728621
Is that maxed out damage with mods and perks?
In a month you probably wont hear a peep about fo4 unless they drop a dlc, I got at least 4 days played so it wasn't bad still a let down though
I shouldn't have to actively search for quests, and as expected entire towns are full of houses you cant loot or go into - the whole town u meet YO I GOT SOMETHING NEW FOR YA is full of boarded up shit save a few
>>320728769
It's been a while since i've played; I remember getting about half the perks at that time.
>>320728463
I was fine with them until the end. I was working with the Railroad but I didn't really have any reason to want to destroy the Institute because they weren't really super evil. I figured I would just free all the synths and then leave them alone but no, in order to get an ending you have to go and fucking nuke 1/3 of the city because every quest line ends in mass murder for some fucking reason.
It pissed me off a lot more with the Institute ending. Their whole thing is making mankind better and bringing them out of the nuclear dark ages, so what's their solution to the Railroad? Murder them all, no survivors. Why? They "stole" from us, even though it was someone inside the Institute that was freeing the synths and the RR only helped them after the fact. That should really elevate the people of the wasteland.
>>320728823
>In a month you probably wont hear a peep about fo4 unless they drop a dlc
I'm glad. It means we are going to go back to talking about New Vegas again.Which is good, New Vegas can be talked about forever.
>>320726965
Doesn't have longevity compared to other RPG's where you can actually talk about the morality of each faction and have real conversations about the game.COUGH NEW VEGAS COUGH
I bought a ton of those synth grenades that summon a Gen 1 Synth.
Then I went down to Quincy and cleared out the whole town of the Gunners with my army of synths.
It was fucking fun, they were a challenging fight. Tons of health, guys and some of them had mini nukes.
>>320729025
>clear out Quincy after a long hard fight
>"glad I don't have to deal with that shit again"
>few in game days later the [Cleared] label means absolutely nothing because they all respawn, with the same types of enemies in the same place.
>>320728937
>every quest line ends in mass murder for some fucking reason.
With the Minutemen, it's assumed that almost everyone in the Institute lives, but the facility itself is destroyed. Which is retarded because the Minutemen could have used the Institute to better the Commonwealth, but they just had to go and HEY THERE, I'VE GOT SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT FOR YOU
>>320728983
> you can actually talk about the morality of each faction
there are a lot of discussion about fo4 faction already. nv disscussion is a repeat of old stale point fueled by nostalgia and Todd hate.
> real conversations about the game
/v/ cant have real conversation about aaa games without LEFTISM, CORPORATE EVIL, NIP VS MURICA unless it's meme gear. And it's full of meme.
>>320729162
Send in the robots. Again.
The game is a boring piece of shit. it needs heavy modding to fix it's shit, expect people talking a bit more about it when Beth will be releasing the GECK.
>>320729165
>Which is retarded because the Minutemen could have used the Institute to better the Commonwealth
FUCKING THIS. I was thinking about this the whole time I was playing. They could have all worked together for fucks sake. You're the damn general of the minutemen and father/mother of the leader of the institute, you can broker a deal between the groups.
>>320727737
No way, I have 140h and I have explored half the map.
>>320729162
>not grinding for some sweet legendaries
I got a two shot gauss rifle and an instigating fatman, shit is dope
>>320727824
watch mxr on youtube, he'll spoonfeed you everything.
>>320727958
>>320727967
buttblasted they can't run the game lmao
>>320729557
>grinding in wrpgs
get out of here, senpai.
legendary is fun but not neccessary at all
Every single faction is retarded
Brotherhood muh technology kill all non-humans genocide ad victorium
Railroad SJW free the synths and wipe their brains so they can go and become raiders
Minuteman HEY GENERAL another farmer needs your help, btw they have zero (0) defences set up, go build some shit GENERAL another farmer needs your help
Institute let's do science here's some big vats of FEV what could possibly go wrong? Also we need to replace humans with robots
>>320729557
>>not grinding for some sweet legendaries
but anon, I'm not playing Borderlands
>>320729557
>kill 10 legendary enemies
>get 8 pieces of useless armor
>get a shitty 10mm pistol and a vats improved baton.
Woo.
>>320730046
>legendary pipe dildo of extended pegging
>legendary pipe rifled dildo of ribbed pegging
>8 caps
>>320728621
I want there to be an update where you can increase the proc chance of this fucking thing, the sounds it makes when you get a home run is the most satisfying thing in the whole game.
I've played about 60 hours and got bored already without even finishing the main quest. I just don't care about any of the characters or factions, they'll all boring and under-written. All they say is "go over here, kill these raiders/ghouls/synths/whatever". Any time you go somewhere that looks cool like the Combat Zone for eg it's just full of raiders/ghouls/super mutants to kill. The only fun side quests I've done were The Big Dig and the Last Voyage of the U.S.S. Constitution. It doesn't help that it's so easy (even on Survival) and it's easy to get way over-levelled. I've maxed out the sneak, ninja, and mister sandman perks and stealth criticals are ridiculously OP. Settlements are just there to distract from how boring the main game is and none of them feel "alive" - it's just unnamed personality-devoid settlers with shitty pathfinding spouting the same few lines over and over. I think I covered everything.
>>320729557
Why the fuck would I grind in a bethesda game?
>>320730568
if someone made it so that it was 100% chance I would spawn it in a fresh game and start playing some baseball
>>320730879
Pretty much. There's probably more to add but thats the gist of it
As trash as the game is, the upgraded rain (as in the rain doesn't fall through roof any more) and the True Storms mod can be really nice.
That's basically the only merit of Beth games these days, installing a million mods and try to achieve """comfy""" as much of a meme word it is.
>>320730879
Also
>horrible dialogue options
>not enough good conversations with npcs
>predetermined backstory for the PC
>Bethesda's typical shitty motivator "muh family"
>plotholes and horrible lore inconsistencies
Probably some more stuff too but that's all the comes to mind.
I did like the Silver Shroud quest too. Too bad most of the sidequests are "go here and kill X" though.
NV thread?
>>320731647
House is best faction for the future of the Mojave.
Yeah, it's shit.
>>320731764
>House
Never mind I see the retards are still here.
>>320726965
I just bought the download for 38 bucks.
20 minutes to go...
>>320727659
fuck off frogposter
>>320727346
Honestly, it's probably what most fallout fans (ie fallout 3 fans) wanted. And that's a shame.
>>320727452
they never explain it its pretty stupid
thoughts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SBmdZorMeY&feature=youtu.be
>>320726965
Nothing left to do.
>go save a settlement
>5 or so ghouls
>done
>another settlement is under attack
>>320733512
>The Rageaholic
Who is "the old man" that Captain Crunch refers to in his memory stuff
Why are synths programmed to memory wipe when escaping the institute instead of just shutting down like when their shutdown code is said
How does a synth escape the Institute at all since it requires the use of a teleporter to get out
Speaking of which, how does the Institute not rule the fucking wasteland since they have TELEPORTATION
Why does "the old man" target vault 111 and kill most everyone there when there is another vault that also has people with minimal radiation exposure
Why does the Institute need DNA from a random vault dweller when they themselves could provide a sample because they have also been underground since the Great War
Why is synth Shaun created
Why does Father believe that synths aren't people because they are created when he himself is talking to the person who created him
Why does Father believe that synths are people only after you destroy the Institute and he tries to force synth Shaun on you
>>320733512
>Razorfist prefers Fallout 3 over New vegas
Fuck him
>>320733910
I'd assume old man is father. Speaking of which, wow the religious symbolism in the institute was heavy handed.
>Leader is named father
>First time he speaks to you is through a booming god voice
>First of series of waifu bots is named eve
>>320729528
Did you spend 60 hours doing the same minutemen quests over and over again?
>>320733910
>Why does the Institute need DNA from a random vault dweller when they themselves could provide a sample because they have also been underground since the Great War
Because apparently enough radiation got down there in the institute so they were slightly mutated.
>>320734156
>The Father is the son
Why does Beth keep throwing religious shit in their Fallouts? FO3 was bad enough.
Of course NV handles religion infinitely better
>>320729557
I hope you feel good about that, I really do
why is it called experimental MIRV when there is no I nor R involved
did beth not take the three seconds to google what MIRV stands for
of course ignoring the fact that a nuclear catapult is fucking stupid to begin with
>people claiming they found every location and did every quest there is to do in 40 hours
>have 150 hours and still find new shit
There's enough stuff to complain about without needing to lie.
>>320733910
The game answer most of these questions.
>>320735302
Maybe you shouldn't eat hot pockets and play vidya at the same time.
>>320735302
I bet it also takes you 3 hours to watch a 2 hour movie too.
>FO4 wasn't the New Vegas 2 I expected
kill me
>>320736105
>>320736105
>expecting New Vegas 2 from Bethesda
You have only yourself to blame.
>LVL 32
>Own the home plate property in Diamond City
>Find a bunker near Abernathy Farm that i hadn't been into yet
>Find this.
>>320735774
>hot pockets
I had to google that shit.
>>320735851
I doubt people are being honest with those claims. How would they know they have seen everything if there's a bunch of unmarked stuff on the map? And have they made a list of all quest available? It's just bullshit. There's enough content there for at least a hundred hours.
>>320736209
Pretty much. Don't even feel hate, only debilitating disappointment.
>>320726965
ya it was pretty god damn shallow
minutemen are trash because they can't help themselves, society should not be comprised of weak beggars
brotherhood are a reasonable choice, possibly the best?
railroad is comedy hour because they think machines are alive
institute is acceptable because they are essentially helpless scientists who can be used to accomplish any goal. they clearly understand machines are not alive. for some reason the game tries to implies that the institute is evil
it's a straight copy of new vegas, but the moral compass of each group is arbitrarily reassiged
>>320736340
I got about a week out of this game. I discovered everything the map had to offer after 3 days and completed all the sidequests in about a days length.
>>320727515
>the people who like FO4 also liked skyrim
>many of them would call themselves huge skyrim fans but don't even know what Elder Scrolls is
>>320736486
The Brotherhood literally want everyone but themselves to be luddites. Fuck em
>>320728627
Yeah only way
>>320736625
And i'm playing since release, on my second character and am still finding new shit. Haven't done a single Brotherhood of Steel quest, which i'm sidding with this time and there's plenty of areas of the entire map i have yet to see. You're full of bullshit or just ignorant of how much you haven't seen yet.
>>320736847
Congratulations on being slower than molasses.
>>320726965
>we're done talking about a shit game already?
what a surprise
>>320729557
>>not grinding for some sweet legendaries
this is fallout not fucking borderlands. the fact that all quest items/weapons are useless infuriates me, why quest when you can kill a legendary bloatfly that somehow drops a 2 shot mininuke
>>320736274
haha i remember this magazine... so fucking pointless
>>320737241
>>320728627
I got both it and his named power armor frame doing the Institute ending.
>>320728014
Institutes plan was to replace key people with synths that they could control so they could control the wasteland and attempt to get humanity back on track
>>320726965
Its an overall mediocre, boring game. There isn't much to discuss.
>>320737447
Except not, pretty sure they just wanted to keep them from being unruly retards and do LE SCIENCE
>>320726965
power armor is way over-powered in this game.
survival makes me fucking laugh.
>>320737447
Funny how there are plenty of human synths with institute weapons going on rampages despite that.
>>320736930
Poor me, neglected to having dozens of hours of entertaiment and discussion ahead of me.
>>320737564
>hours of entertainment and discussion
Sure kid.
How do I make the most out of my companions? Are they better with the type of weapon they start with or does it matter? I know they have infinite ammo with what they start with but Piper's 9mm is so shitty.
>>320729693
This. I just wanna kill all of them
>>320737696
Too obvious dreamboy.
>>320738180
>merely pretending
Sure kid.
I cannot find the last robot model. I think it's the one near Lake Cochituate but I've been through the shacks so many times.
>>320726965
I've built a settlement but I haven't even had to defend it once? What gives?
>>320729693
Railroad was pretty reasoneable. Except for memory wipping, but i don't remember if that was mandatory. But i get the idea behind it.
>>320738579
Who cares? Every time I return to my settlement they are thrown off their shelves and are clipped into the ground or missing completely. Thanks Bethesda
>>320738282
Would be better if you were.
>>320734351
I don't do Radiant Quests.
There's a shitton of things to do and locations to explore. A few days ago I found the quarry with the hallucinations and the dagger after more than 100h.
>>320738798
This is why I stopped placing inventory items all together. Will wait until there is a patch or mod to keep things in place.
>>320738798
>>320738971
There's a mod for that. OCDsomething. Shit you place stays there and can only be moved through Workshop.
>>320726965
I don't think I'll be playing this until some decent mods come out. Back to New Vegas for me, nigger. Then again... I never seriously considered enjoying Fallout 4 anyway.
