Can we all agree that mage and mystic knight are the most boring classes and should be completely revamped?
>>320723150
>mystic knight
>boring
I really need to save that drake image.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf8DRVsUYeE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMxaToPP-2g
this is more fun to me than anything the other vocations can do, aside from the terrible framerate
I have no idea, I have finished the game 3 different times ranger-only, why would I even bother with any other class?
>>320723150
> not choosing superior assassin hybrid master race
>>320724583
Strider is more fun
Is Magick Archer good ?
I liked the bow gameplay but I mained Mystic Knight
>>320724680
Yes. pretty fun but dps can be low if you leveled him wrong
I've been waiting for the PC version and thought Magic Knight would be most my speed. What's wrong with the class?
>>320724961
nothing, ignore OP
>mage
>boring
ok
>magic knight
>boring
why
ma mk and sorc are some of the best magic users i've ever played
>>320724961
It's a lesser fighter who spends a lot of time casting spells to buff themselves and your pawns.
Most effective way of playing him is casting magic cannons and whacking at them, far from reach of the enemy.
Some anons will tell you about those awesome moments they could trigger enemies to activated those cannons or a combination with another skill. But those moments are not the norm.
>>320723150
>ranger uses bow and daggers
>assassin uses swords and bow
Thats just wrong. On so many levels.
>>320724680
it has coolest skills in gaming history but stats growth are pretty shit. so it's more of a post game class. leveling with mage first should help with magic relate stat
>>320724961
There nothing fun about them. it's like playing dragon age inquisition, pillars of eternity or witcher 3
It's just not fun and tedious
>>320725174
>not playing sword&bow assassin
Pleb.
Assassin best class.
>Mystic Knight
>Boring
>Not plunging your console to single digit FPS with Magick Cannon
>Not being an Action Wizard in general
Its like you hate fun
>>320725209
>mage
I hope you meant sorcerer.
>>320723150
>the entire leveling system and stat optimizarion
Its so shitty. Honestly the game would be better without it
>>320725278
The only pleb here is the designers thinking rangers wouldnt use swords
>the most boring class
Yeah no. try playing a straight up caster class. You stand there for half a minute waiting for the spell to charge then guess as to whats happening as your frames went through the floor.
>>320725174
>Reply
autsim
>>320725209
Another person who hasnt played the game, it was shown that even if you go for optimal levelling even though you get more stats the in game effects hardly change.
>>320724861
Not the anon you were replying to, but you might as well explain how do you avoid leveling him wrong then. Last thing I want is playing it and fucking myself over in the ass when I get to mid-late game.
>>320724961
Everyone saying they are boring did it wrong.
MK can be a plate wearing battle mage flinging spells with a staff, a magical gun turret (the build people think is boring), a cleric using AOE debuffs while wading through combat, or a magical ass kicker that flies through the air with a mace that leaves shockwaves in its wake.
>>320725481
I don't know why they should.
>>320725328
I like the class for many reasons.
Stone Forest is one.
Hitting shit with a blunt object is another.
Guys, if I want my assassin to have a large amount of magick and magic attack, do I have to play as a sorcerer? Can I go strider>MK for like 70-80 levels>assassin til 200? Sorcerers are boring as fuck to play as, it's a literal pawn vocation.
>>320725598
So I'll be fine if I start with Strider ?
I don't really want to level a Mage
>>320725613
You need to level sorcerer for the 20 lvls before switching
Or you can just get weapon from the dark arisen island, it will up your dps enough for the most of basic game. But better to do it after you reached lvl 10, or you will miss tons of discipline points if the starting zone
>>320725835
Play it however you want. The difference between total minmaxing and switching between classes for fun is barely noticeable except for if you are trying to do shit like speedrunning the DLC bosses.
>>320725634
Is there any way to mix those last two, so I can be a debuffer with shockwaves?
>>320726405
Fuck yes there is. All skills are mix and match based on your equipped weapons. Abyssal Anguish is the shockwave skill and it comes from your shield which means every sword/mace or staff skill available to the class can be used with it.
Want to create a vortex pulling enemies towards you while lighting your sword or mace on fire then spinning like a retard with it extended, creating four shockwaves (which are also on fire) that hit every enemy you struck with your weapon? Then if there is anything left you create an earthquake just because you can.
Vortex Sigil - vacuum up the enemies
Fire enchanter - light your shit on fire
Abyssal Anguish - shockwaves bitches
Full Moon Slash - spin like a retard
Stone Forest - stab the ground so hard it shits itself
Anyone that says Mystic Knight is boring is bad at the game.
>>320723150
warrior
>>320725904
Oi lad don't listen to the guys telling you leveling properly doesn't matter. Early game shouldn't be a a problem if you're using low scaling classes, but it'll be a problem when you have no health and loads of magic attack when you feel like playing melee because you leveled sorc your first 50 levels. Once the general gets back up you should dig around the pastebins.
>>320728241
Lol just imagine what happens with him if he played 50 lvl as strider and decided to switch on the magic archer
DA content can be nerfed with gear, but all original game will be huge pain in the ass and disappointment because his dps will be low
>>320728241
>>320728473
No one plays their first fifty levels as one class unless they listen to people telling them to minmax.
The game is perfectly fun and playable if you switch classes whenever you feel like. Hell, a little added difficulty is not a bad thing as the game is ridiculously easy if you are at all decent at action games.
>>320728473
This is the thing, all this "stats don't matter, get good gear!" only really works in BBI.
Main game weapons don't have the potential to increase your attack in such numbers as BBI gear. And if you want to get into BBI as the class you want to play you better be prepaired in other regards.
>>320727642
Awesome. Thanks, anon.
>>320728738
I played the whole game as magik archer after strider before BBI even existed and it never really felt like an issue.
>>320729195
Because strider is pretty good at leveling for MA and MA is one of the strongest vocations.
I also forgot about post-game weapons.
>>320723150
>Can we all agree
No
>you will never be this good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMxaToPP-2g
guy, i want to create the perfectmandatoryhealer loly pawn, can you give me some tips?
>>320723150
Play a melee based MK, it's fun as fuck. Perfect blocking niggas, maces have insane damage, augment it with abyssal anguish to turn every swing into 3 - 5 hits. Virge of madness when gold forged is only 100 less damage than a gold forged devils nail, making it the second or third strongest melee weapon in the game, only beaten out by the warrior weapons. With your greatshield you can tank almost any attack, even Daimon's bullshit spells.
>>320729195
>I played the whole game as magik archer after strider before BBI even existed and it never really felt like an issue.
Lol
>>320730009
Wew lad that was ffucken crazy
>struggling against sweet pope and hella dragon
Gods this is fun
>>320730009
You'll kill daimon faster with an assassin with sword shield if you get the lightning blocks properly.
>>320725328
MK staff and shield is fun as fuck. Perfect blocking cock suckers to the screen with fireballs, then flinging magick around.
Motherfucking brontide is the best spell. Hopefully they fix the grand brontide ring bug in the PC version.
>>320730680
NO ITEMS.
>>320723150
Mage, Sorcerer and Warrior are the most boring classes and should be revamped.
Here we are, in an action RPG where most enemies are fast yet these classes are all tediously slow and as if casting time was not long enough, Sorcerer also has spells that keep you rooted to the ground AFTER you cast it.
Oh, and what's even more hilarious is that holy focused bolts deal 1000x more damage while also being 1000x faster than muh random flashy useless spell
>>320733301
>sorcerer/warrior
>boring
nope!
>>320733301
>Oh, and what's even more hilarious is that holy focused bolts deal 1000x more damage while also being 1000x faster than muh random flashy useless spell
Wait, this guy has never actually played sorcerer.
Nobody listen to him.
>>320723150
Sorc is boring because of the charge times, but holy enchant and the charged orbs destroy the Ur-Dragon, especially if you down a few buffs. Same for Daimon.
Mystic Knight and Archer are difficult, for MA to get the most out of his abilities, you need to level as a Sorc from ten to 90 in the least, which isn't too hard to grind out. I usually level him as a ranger for the last ten because the stamina gain helps.
For MK, it depends on what you want to do. Remember, the MA and MK magic skills have more pretty good damage modifiers on them and are just useful in general. For MK, a balance of Warrior and Sorc works well, and gives you options as well as damage potential.
I generally prefer MA between the two, though.
When all is said and done, Assassin is the best class period. Getting hit more than a couple of times is for scrubs, going fast and hitting hard is all I need. Too bad you can't roll with sword and bow, the class' only shortcoming.
>>320733551
Well he's not wrong, holy focused bolt is VERY strong against certain enemies, ie ur-dragon
>>320734493
But so is Seism because that's holy damage.
>>320734818
Seism also has a long cast time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lj-OWM5Ogw
