>Bamham
>Dante's Inferno
>Darksiders
>DmC
>God of War
Compare that to stuff like:
>Bayonetta 1 & 2
>DMC 1, 3, 4
>Ninja Gaiden Black
>Ninja Gaiden 2
>God Hand
>Viewtiful Joe
Why is the West so bad at making action games?
East is all flash no substance
>>320689186
You mean all flash and substance, while west has nothing going for it.
>>320689186
>all flash and no substance vs no flash and no substance
That's still better, son.
>>320688926
Why would you compare Darksiders to DMC when it's clearly a Zelda clone? Also Darksiders is better than Zelda
I liked the first Darksiders game.
>>320688926
The west is bad at making video games of any genre.
Considering half of those eastern game series are dead, I'd say the west is much better.
>>320689186
That's literally what God of War is, though.
>Bamham
decent on hard mode
>dantes inferno
haven't played so I can't comment
>Darksiders
2 had combat at least on par with Bayonetta
>DmC
still had better combat than the first two DMC games
>God of War
has loads of combo potential
Also, why do weebs act like jap action games are hard? The vast majority aren't unless you're playing on the absolute highest difficulty, and even then most of them are only hard due to enemies doing more damage while your health is nerfed.
>>320690139
>muh sales
The western video games industry has proven that you don't need a quality product to sell, you just need to pour tons of money into marketing.
>>320689316
>>320689450
Darksiders has 10x more substance that any press X for Awesome Japanese game
>>320689849
So many things wrong with what you just said.
>>320690252
But bot Darksiders games are mash square to win.
...and don't get me started on 2, where you have to gather 3 of something to get 1 of the other 3 things you have to gather.
>>320690430
There is more to Darksiders than combat
Same can't be said for Japan games
>>320690246
>Darksiders 2
>Combat on par with Bayo
Nice joke
>>320688926
DmC is by team ninja, it is eastern.
Also this list is unfair to darksiders. It's a fucking awesome game.
>>320690538
Oh yes, I forgot the 'puzzles' that put even Okami to shame in the easiness department.
>>320690565
DmC is not by Team Ninja
>>320690565
DMC is by Ninja Theory, which is British-based you dummy.
The entire genre is retarded anyway.
>>320690565
it's ninja theory not team ninja, like that's not even your fault shits confusing
>>320690648
>>320690565
Speaking of DmC, how is DmC: We Kinda Fixed It Edition?
>>320690246
>darksiders 2
>combat on pat with Bayonetta
This is some serious delusion, or you havnt played Bayonetta
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt
Every game that you just listed is shit.
>>320688926
You forgot Ys in the list of better action games than the west
>>320690818
Leave poor Falcom out of this.
>>320690795
What the fuck happened to /v/?
God Hand used to be universally loved here.
>>320690795
Spotted the pcuck, go make another petition
>>320690740
They kind of fixed it but it's still piss easy and the lock on addition was arbitrary.
>>320690873
It actually used to be that nobody had played it.
BamHam, Darksiders and Dante's Inferno are awesome games.
>>320688926
>Bayonetta 1 & 2
>DMC
>God Hand
>Viewtiful Joe
Wheren't these all made by basically the same people?
>>320690994
>Dante's Inferno
lol
>>320691031
Not God Hand or any DMC past the first one.
>>320690994
Dante's Inferno is fucking trite and you know it.
All it has going for it are the environments and Satan's gigantic wang.
>>320688926
It always was like this, even back then genres like fighting games, beat em ups or shoot em ups were a joke in the west.
>>320689186
What the fuck are you talking about?
Bayonetta alone has more depth in its gameplay than every western game OP listed combined.
>>320691087
I liked it
>>320691031
>>320691082
He was kinda sorta right. Mikami did God Hand, Kamiya did Bayo 1, DMC, and Viewtiful Joe. They both ended up forming Platinum.
>>320690246
>Darksiders
>2 had combat at least on par with Bayonetta
>God of War
>has loads of combo potential
>>320690795
>Ninja Gaiden Black
>DMC3
>Shit
Nice try. I respect opinions that are bad about Ninja Gaiden 2/DMC4 despite loving them but those two games are fucking amazing and NGB is a masterpiece.
Also OP to answer its because the West can't do boss fights properly let alone in the genre that demands them to be good more then any other.
>>320690860
Falcom does nothing wrong
>>320691359
Exactly.
They're too pure for this cruel world.
>>320690309
You're right, let me correct myself. Darksiders is better than 3D Zelda.
>>320691031
Yes.
>>320688926
They're all the same game, except viewtiful. Only godhand gets a pass because it was meant to be retarded.
Most western action games are just adventure games with bare bones action mechanics. They sometimes have better level design but in terms of gameplay they're vastly inferior. The amount you can do with DMC/Bayo/Godhand with their mechanics is almost limitless in some ways.
Ninja Gaiden has solid mechanics but its more focused on being about the enemy AI and beating that rather then being stylish. But almost all action games are a bitch and a half on the hardest because of brutal AI/Enemy variety changing.
I dunno how anyone can think they can compete with Ninja Gaiden Black. Its only low point is the Sewer levels/Military base which are great just a low point. Hell its pretty much the only game besides maybe Shinobi that did a Helicopter boss right.
>>320691516
>they're all the same game because they're part of the same genre
Okay kiddo.
>>320691516
You're an idiot who didn't play any of them.
>>320690873
/v/'s full of people who suck dicks at video games, same as always. Why do you think people claim "X has the combat depth of Bayonetta" when Bayonetta is the only game with dodge offset? That mechanic alone makes the combat in that game incredibly complex and allows for some crazy shit since in most other games longer combos are made nearly useless by having to dodge cancel in the middle of a string since harder enemies typically take longer to stun.
Also I have too much fun dicking around in god hand and bayo, but I really need to improve. I'm nowhere near as good as I could be at them.
>>320690246
>The vast majority aren't unless you're playing on the absolute highest difficulty,
When comparing the mechanics of action games, playing on max difficulty is an absolute must. In many of these games, normal difficulty doesn't force you to push the mechanics to their limits, and that's why casuals can cheese through Bayonetta, God Hand, and DMC3. Taking them on their hardest difficulties are a totally different matter, normal modes are just tutorials.
>most of them are only hard due to enemies doing more damage while your health is nerfed.
This is pretty fucking false, too. While there is generally increased damage output from enemies and often fewer ways to get health or increase your total HP, most of the challenge of playing harder modes in games like these is more enemies with more difficult AI.
>>320691849
>Also I have too much fun dicking around in god hand and bayo
This. During my first playthrough of Bayo 1, I never really sued the Onyx Roses. Now I'm doing another play through, and they come in handy for staggering Gracious and Glorious.
>>320691849
Why even bother? Only multiplayer games are worth getting good at.
