Is the strongest jedi/sith still canon /v/?
>>320595825
He was so strong he became a planet
>>320595976
Star Wars confirmed for ripping off Cyborg from the Justice League and Teen Titans comics
>>320595825
Nope
never was
>>320595825
he never was to begin with.
>>320595825
Starkiller wasn't even that strong. He got Sheev'd canonically and he barely managed to beat Vader who was holding back. His schizo clone wasn't exactly a tower of power either.
Revan is stronger and he's still not even close to being strongest.
>>320595976
>>320596286
>Revan is stronger
Good thing he's not canon.
>>320596749
Revan IS canon, wtf are you smoking?
>>320596781
>he still thinks kotor is canon
Oh, anon.
Meetra Surik is stronger than Revan
Prove me wrongyou probably can
>>320596816
Nothing has been released that invalidates it so yeah, he's right. Revan is still canon. Starkiller isn't and never was.
>>320596781
>>320596816
>>320596976
Darth Bane and Darth Revan were supposed to be in an episode of the Star Wars The Clone Wars show which is canon but they were cut, so I don't think he's been in anything considered canon anymore.
>>320596976
Is that your logic? kek
I declare that luke and han had passionate sex all the time they knew each other, and nothing has been released that invalidates it so it's cannon
>>320597058
>I declare that luke and han had passionate sex all the time they knew each other, and nothing has been released that invalidates it so it's cannon
top lol
>captha tells me to check a salad
>check a sandwich
>works anyways
double lol
>>320597013
>>320596976
>http://arcadesushi.com/bioware-star-wars-kotor-canon/
Oh, anon.
>>320597013
They were cut because Revan has a (horrible written) role in SWTOR.
>>320597156
I was saying Revan is not canon, why link me something I already knew?
>>320597157
They were cut because the implication of the Sith being able to preserve their life after death went against the mythos of the show.
>>320596976
besides the fact that lucasfilm have outright said it's not canon
>>320597156
Wow, I can't believe this shit. KOTOR2 is the best written piece of Star Wars universe and Revan himself was a great character despite the first game being pretty black n white just like the original movies. I guess they declaired it not canob so they can make their own fucking Revan with Kylo Ren.
>>320596913
she was killed by scourge, wasn't she?
lel
I'll just leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ai5UPjr3W8
>>320595825
Yes Revan is still canon.
>>320596913
The sith who almost killed Meetra and Scourge was bitchslapped by a Revan who was just released of years drugging and torturing.
That clearly shows how significantly weaker the Exile is.
>>320597416
who cares, disney is non cannon
>>320597416
I realized this as soon as they revealed his mask.
>>320597594
THE SPOILERS WERE RIGHT
AHHHHHHHHH
>>320597735
Your headcanon is fine, but it is not real anon. Revan is currently not canon.
>>320597869
Revan will be always canon.
>>320597735
>>320597970
literally not
http://www.starwars.com/news/swca-one-big-story-star-wars-canon-panel-liveblog#liveblog-entry-471
>>320597970
>Revan fanboys
>>320597416
KOTOT2 is one of the worst Star Wars media in existence.
Its anything but Star Wars.
>reminding me of my biggest gaming disappointment that's not spore
Fuck everything about this game. Was expecting Jedi Knight 3: Sith Edition and got an absolute piece of shit with horrible control, characters and hilarious story.
I invite anyone to look up the plot synopsis and not be dumbfounded.
>>320597970
FOR LORD REVAN.
>YFW KYLO FINISHES WHAT REVAN STARTED
>>320598087
>I don't like great writing: The Post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EtByaOxiwE
>>320598087
Yeah, it's KOTOR's fault for being too superior to Star Wars' quality in every way. It's one of the worst examples of being a pile of shit.
>>320596913
Who?
>>320598435
Meetra Surik is the name of the Jedi Exile in KOTOR 2.
>>320597128
Fucking lel
>>320598034
>is the SWTOR EXPANSION canon?
No.
Thats all there is.
>>320595825
I don't know but he's the cutest
>>320598469
Bullshit. You could choose your own name for him.
>>320598336
>>320598381
Cant care about how great the writing is if the game has 0 Star Wars feel to it when it supposedly a Star Wars game.
And yeah the writing was so great anyway that i enjoyed both KOTOR1 and SWTOR way way more.
Well mostly because both those are actually Star Wars.
Get triggered obsidrones.
>>320596913
The second I've read their confrontation with the Sith Emperor the entiriety of KOTOR became a useless waste.
>>320598535
In old canon (now Legends) the Jedi Exile is female and her name is Meetra Surik.
what's the point for playing SWTOR again ?
>>320598574
If Star Wars is shit, Star Wars feel is also shit.
KOTOR not being shit, but still having the elements/ideas of Star Wars makes it far too disjointed from Star Wars.
>>320596976
Lucas said Starkiller was canon.
Of course he's not anymore, but he was up until the deal with Disney.
>>320598481
Bioware star wars isn't canon, including the games before the mmo expansion, which include KOTOR 1 & 2.
>>320598481
http://www.starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page
>This includes the six Star Wars episodes, and the many hours of content he developed and produced in Star Wars: The Clone Wars. These stories are the immovable objects of Star Wars history, the characters and events to which all other tales must align.
>>320598574
>Enjoyed SWTOR more
It has some decent and fun moments, but most of the time the quality of writting is downright horrible. Hell, it's at it's worst when it touches Revan and KOTOR.
>>320598574
The fact that it wasn't Star Wars was literally the point.
The entire game was a critique of Star Wars.
If you want to play a Star Wars cliche storm, go stick with Bioware's shit, sure, but your standards for judging KotoR II are completely out of whack.
>>320598746
True but i must say darth baras is super cool.
And his voice actor is.. just great.
>>320598723
>>320598741
>Bioware star wars isn't canon
>Rakata Prime
>Onderon
>Mandalore
>Dantooine
>Starkiller Base Point Origin at the location of Ilum
ok
>>320598831
>he fact that it wasn't Star Wars was literally the point.
>The entire game was a critique of Star Wars.
So we can agree that only non-Star Wars fan edgelords like KOTOR2.
Thank you.
>>320596976
>Nothing has been released that invalidates it
Yeah, well, except for, you know, that statement from Disney about how everything from the EU aside from Clone Wars is not canon.
>>320598919
cry about it
>>320598574
>had no star wars feel
Please expand? is it because the game was critical of the lore and some of the ideas presented in the originals and KOTOR? What's wrong with a piece of fiction analysing itself?
>>320598831
>KOTOR2 is loved and praised by people who dont like Star Wars
well i guess, there is nothing more to talk about then, is there?
It obviously proves how shitty of a Star Wars game KOTOR2 is.
>>320598941
Im not that dude but its not exactly like that.
they divided between legends and actual canon..
You dont know if those legends are true, but are surely told in the star wars universe.
>>320596976
Even if that was true, the way it works now is that Disney stated exactly what was canon. Anything and everything besides that is not canon.
>>320599054
i dont see how Kreia trying to spread total bullshit is being critical of the game
But im sure non-SW fans == KOTOR2 fans know this all right.
>>320598919
Your life will be much simpler if you understand one thing. They will pick and choose what to bring back as canon. If they decide to bring back Bastila without any mention of Revan, it's 100% in their power to.
>>320599254
The movies are canon.
The Jedi order and the republic only exists in the movies because of Revan and Meetra.
Therefore, both are canon.
>>320598919
Onderon and Mandalore are in TCW television show.
Dantooine is name dropped in A New Hope.
Now we still don't know if Starkiller Base in on Ilum or not, that hasn't been confirmed.
Rakata Prime has been recanonized, but that doesn't mean that all of KOTOR is retroactivley canon. There is simply a planet named Rakata Prime in the Unknown Regions, and the history of that planet may differ to what we've seen before.
>>320598919
>Onderon
>Mandalore
>Dantooine
All of which were mentioned or visted in the movies or TV series (which are canon)
>>320599231
So the game isn't allowed to explore misguided Jedi or the shades between light and dark even if they are possibly intereperated "badly" by a character in the game? You're given the choice in the game not to agree with Kreai as well as being critical of her just as a person.
I like both KOTOR 1 and 2 but I've always been a bit peeved by the Jedi so kotor 2 appealed to me more on those grounds. But then again I'm an extended universe faggot.
I guess some people just wanted more shades of grey from star wars and KOTOR 2 was the game that approached that?
>>320599373
>Dantooine is name dropped in A New Hope.
You mean Tatooine
>>320597416
there's hope yet. the head canon woman at lucasarts said she is herself unsure about the canon status of the old republic stuff, because old republic stuff is still being released (via patches and stuff in the mmo) and thus would fit their description of "everything being canon that was released post 2012".
also it wouldn't make much sense to invalidate the entire old republic stuff. by now the old republic setting is richer than the main star wars timeline and most of it is pretty well written imo (in terms of how it fits into the star wars universe, not the quality of all the stories told)
>>320599501
No, I mean Dantooine.
https://youtu.be/p0qLzsIhUMk?t=1m26s
>>320599575
They say Bantootine.
>>320599561
>also it wouldn't make much sense to invalidate the entire old republic stuff. by now the old republic setting is richer than the main star wars timeline
It's also much more convoluted and draws from aspects from other parts of the EU.
>most of it is pretty well written
Inconsistent at best.
>>320599335
Those are some impressive mental gymnastics there.
>>320599643
Of course they do, anon. :^)
>>320599780
0 insight
>>320600343It's 4 AM forgive me.
>>320596215
Didn't George Lucas say that he was though?
>>320597013
Darth Bane is still in the cartoon for one episode. Making him canon.
>>320597269
But they don't.
Sith are cut off from respawning.
Isn't that nirvana tho? Indus claim only way to stop living on earth (hell) is to escape the cycle of life. By ceasing to exist.
Dark side confirmed for true enlightenment side.
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed was the best star wars game ever created. Why was the sequal such horse shit? WHY?!?
>>320601097
>KOTOR II exists
>Tie Fighter games exist
>Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series exists
>yet this fag says shitty goddowar clone was the best
>>320601097
jesus christ
>>320601236
>KOTOR II exists
Yes, and it's shit. Fuck off.
>>320597013
Tell me about Bane. Why does he wield the lightsaber?
>>320598118
Just read it
I fucking... what,did that ending even mean, some shit to do with time travel at the end?
>>320595825
yes luke skywalker is the most powerful, followed by kyle katarn.
Who is this faggot you posted?
>>320602379
That's rich coming from someone who praised a shit-tier God of War clone.
>>320595825
>EU shit
>still canon
>thinking it was ever canon
Oh I'm laffin
>>320596913
The exile is a man, cuckold
>>320597970
Literally suicide watch.
>>320602965
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no u
I like how he kills Han Solo.
>>320595825
His crest is canon, but Disney made him and his clones non-canon. Revan is also non-canon, but the squad from Republic Commando is canon.No word if they're making the cut medic squadmate canon, or if they ever found Sev
>>320595825
I thought he was never canon and was said by the devs to be fan fiction from the get go like the dude from shadow or mordor?
>>320598336
I really hope this wasn't supposed to be an example of the great writing because Jesus Christ.
>>320598831
>It's shit on purpose that means it's not shit
>Letting how common tropes are affect your judgement of them
Poor hipster
>>320595825
The strongest Sith is Sheev
