which Ys is your favorite?
Oath. I'm playing Napishtim right now and it's pretty mediocre. Ys really has as many good games as boring ones.
>>320581474
Oath is the best.
>>320581474
Oath in Fleghana - basically the high point of Ys before they went with team mechanics or the removal of jumping. The YsIII Turbografx-16 red book is still my favorite soundtrack in the series with the ending theme Wanderers from Ys always bringing a tear of nostalgia to my eye.
Chronicles
I actually thought the bumper system was better
I finished 6 the other day. I think it's my least favorite. But I haven't played Calceta.
>>320582509
Well, 8 is bringing the jumping back. I'm remaining cautious but any game with a jump button is already doing SOMETHING right.
Ys is getting worse and worse with every new game. It's strange considering Nayuta was all you would want from a Ys game, yet Falcom went with changing the formula for the worse in the Ys games instead of experimenting with shit like that in titles like Nayuta.
>>320581474
For the bosses? Oath
For the difficulty? Oath
For the OST? Oath and Seven
For the replayability? Origin
For the cute waifus? MoC and Seven
For the nostalgia? Chronicles
>>320582678
I love the way in which Chronicles is SO fast paced.
I've only played 7 and Celceta so far. I think I like Celceta a little more.
>>320583064
>Nayuta
Literally Zwei 3. With some Ys favor.
Origins.
Playing the game through 3 different playstyles was a blast figuring out different strategies for the puzzles and boss encounters.
The music in it is some of the best I've encountered in vidya.
>>320583524
Still better than what Ys has become.
How's Memories of Celceta? I've never played a Ys game.
>>320582509
https://youtu.be/yY06-36FJD4?t=3905
>She's calling to you, what are you going to do?
Shame it's in japanese.
Ys II
>>320584121
>Ys II
>implying that game can exist without Ys I being played right before it
If I payed money for Ys I in 87 I would be pissed with it's ending.
>>320581474
If anyone cares, I actually made a video on it. Guess I might as well shill it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDlJaIZ7vck
Hard to say, they have different strengths. Haven't played them all yet, though. I like Ys 1's feeling of discovery and atmosphere the most, but Ys 2 is a much better game mechanically. I also love how no-bullshit they are. You're just thrown into the game and have to find your way around. 6 has decent exploration and combat, but doesn't excell in either. Ys Origin and Oath in Felghana are amazing action games but are too linear, filled with cutscenes and handholdy. Ys 7 has the most content, best level design and the most complex mechanics but feels very sloppily designed and drags on.
>>320581474
The only Ys games I haven't played are the PCE version of Ys IV and Memories of Celceta
Out of them all I think I enjoyed Ys Seven the most, but I have the most nostalgia for Ys III on Sega Genesis
I'm really gonna have to get a Vita soon to play Celceta and Ys 8
origin a best
>>320584440
cool video anon, really helpful review
I subscribed
felghana actually has a worse story than the game it's a remake of, ys iii
they completely ruined chester's character
>>320582050
give it a break, man. It was the first one to be put in a 3d environment. I will admit that compared to Ys games that have come out since then Ark is so so, but still it's by no means a bad one
>>320581474
II or Oath in Felghana. I can't decide
>>320581474
Either Origin or 7. I'd say 7 overall, but the last third of the game really drags.
>>320588586
the steam version is better than the original releases because they changed the item that let you warp out of dungeons warp to save points instead, cutting out a lot of tedious walking back in forth you had to do
it's still not the greatest of ys games though
>>320588930
that boss battle though
>>320581474
>play 40 minutes of Ys 1&2
>get a sword and shield from the shop
>talking to faggots in the village
>finally holy shit i can attack something
>walk outside see some retarded creature wolf slime hybrid
>press a nothing happens
>press b nothing happens
>press every button nothing happens
>ok what the fuck did i unbind attack?
>look through the settings
>literally nothing about attack
no fucking way.. they don't expect me to..
>run into the enemy
>bounces off me and neither of us take damage
>keep bouncing into it and it randomly takes damage
>holy
>fucking
>shit
>ITS LITERALLY BUMPER CARS: THE VIDEO GAME
deleted that piece of shit faster than anything i've ever owned. what a fucking blunder meme series
ys more like y is this game so shit :)
>>320581474
>>320589086
>go out of town for the first time
>a little infobox pops up, tells you how to play
The scary part is, even if you're shitposting, someone is stupid enough think like that
>>320589086
Baaaaaaaaait. There's a tutorial that appears right when you enter the enemies field so you'd have to be retarded to not notice.
>>320589086
it was one of the first action rpgs ever man, it was some revolutionary shit for its time. but you gotta keep yourself in the mindset of the time when you play it
also if you attack from the side of the enemies you don't take damage, so the challenge is lining yourself up correctly
See that mountain?You can't climb it
>>320585654
Ys 8?
Don't you mean Ys 7
Anyone know how to get YS I&II Eternal on PC to work? The colors are all messed up for me.
I can't choose a favorite. 1 and 2 are great and don't drag on unnecessarily. The original sidescrolling version of 3 is awful. 4 isn't as good as 1 or 2 but returns to that style of bumper combat. I still haven't been able to find a copy of ys v so I might have to emulate it. 6 is great but it has a lot of glitches. I don't like the casualized combat of 7 and celceta. The felghana remake has cool sections but the bosses have too many bullshit attacks. It felt more like a puzzle than a boss fight. Origin is probably my favorite because it ties in well to 1 and has good stories. I cry evertim whenfeena and reah leave
>>320589653
No I meant Ys 8. It comes out next year
It's called Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana
>>320581474
Guys i tried to et in to this shit but i just cant
Why is it so fun bumping in to stuff?
>>320582678
>I actually thought the bumper system was better.
Sort of agree here. At the very least, it was the most unique combat system in an ARPG I've played. But I really dislike the way bosses were handled in 2. I hated being forced into using fire magic in every single fight. That said, the way they play now is definitely more engaging than Chronicles, which you could play mostly with just 1 hand.
>>320589703
just get the chronicles+ version on steam/gog. You can switch to the Eternal graphics and music in the options, so there's no reason to play that old version
>>320589874
Just keep at it anon. You'll get there
>>320589630
This kills the Todd.
>>320589823
you wonderful person you
Fucking hyped for VIII
>>320590030
What the fuck are you on about?
I'm guessing the joke you're attempting to make is you hate one of the Ys games so much that you deny it's existence, which would make Ys 8 Ys 7.
Which Ys game do you hate so much anon?
>>320590225
its*
my finger slipped
So should I play Napishtim first or head straight into Oath?
I've plays YS 1 & 2 Chronicles and Origin on Steam so far.
>>320590343
Napishtim cause it's the weaker title
>>320590030
Jesus fuck, that gif made me tear up for no good reason. You can tell that kid feels genuine regret by the way he bows his head when he hugs that pinata.
>>320590225
le what? Why'd you think I hate some of the games? I didn't know Y8 is going to land on Vita...and I called you a wonderful person.
So fuck you...asshat
>>320590225
jesus
>>320590509
So you're retarded then.
Next time don't be a condescending prick when you don't know what you're talking about
Oath because it has my favorite final boss of all time. I find myself booting up the game every now and then and doing time attack.
>>320590661
>try to clarify the game some anon mention
>his reply mentioned a a new game in the series coming out
>thank him
>be called a condescending prick for it
Welcome to /v/
I'm gonna be a contrarian and say that Oath is my favorite one.
>>320591027
>contrarian
>picks the most widely regarded one on /v/ as his favorite
Seven is my favorite. Mainly cause it was my first Ys game
>>320590781
>you wonderful person you
No one says shit like that unless they're being sarcastic, which is what I thought you were being
People on /v/ constantly say shit like
>you're a special guy aren't you anon
or
>oh anon
to you as a condescending way of just saying you're wrong. So that's why I made my assumption.
It was an honest mistake
![hqdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3Zwh2gG.jpg "hqdefault[1].jpg")
>>320591090
Origin. > Oath > Ys 4 PC-E
>>320591134
>No one says shit like that unless they're being sarcastic, which is what I thought you were being
Not that guy, but the internet has ruined you.
>>320589630
What are you trying to say?
Never played a Ys game. Do they play anything like Chrystalis?
>>320591353
he was making a joke about open world games
>>320585654
You played those bad PS2 remakes?
>>320591428
nah
start with the first two games
the versions on steam are pretty good, but I prefer the TurboGrafx-CD versions
it's up to you f;am
>>320589630
So fucking what? There's never been any game that allowed you to do detailed exploration of the entirety of what you see in a horizon.
>>320591602
It was just a meme post, calm down.
>>320591602
GTA San Andreas did.
Are there any other games similar to the Napishtim / Oath / Origin playstyle?
Played Tree of Savior which gave me a similar feel but beta is over right now and don't know when I'll get to play it next.
>>320590767
>dat silky framerate
I hope Ys 8 runs at 60 fps.
>>320591284
>>320591925
Xanadu Next, except it's muuuch slower.
>>320591957
only on PC...if it ever lands there
>>320592110
I have hope for it running 60 on PS4.
It doesn't look that graphically advanced, so it could very well run at 60.
MGS5 was able to run at 60 on PS4 despite looking more detailed than Ys 8.
Seven would probably be my favorite if the team mechanic didn't exist. Found it really hard to use different party members when ideally you always want one slash/strike/pierce type on your team.
I, II, VI, Oath and Seven are the best.
>>320592178
optimization plays a major role
>>320581474
I put more time into Origin and Oath but the first one is my favorite. Last boss was a fucking nightmare on nightmare though.
>>320592285
Dark Fact was definitely one of the hardest bosses I've ever faced too.
Dem breaking platforms that could destroy your potentially perfect pathing.
>>320592425
that music too
>>320590202
>all that exposed skin on the belly and midriff on that girl on the right
That is quite lewd by Ys standards.
>>320592479
Have you already forgotten Karna?
>>320592220
Sen 2 ran really well on PS3 and it looks about as good as Ys 8.
>>320592632
Guess we'll wait and see
>>320592479Tia despair modeand karna on Ys side. Rixia on Kiseki side.
Doesn't calilica run around in her underwear too or something.
Oath bosses based on entertainment value:
YOU DON'T ACTUALLY NEED THE ICE PLATFORMS IN THE FIRST PHASE:
GALBALAN
GOD TIER:
DEATH FALEON
CHESTER 2
I HAVE A MOVE THAT I ONLY DO ON LOWER DIFFICULTIES FOR SOME REASON:
GILDIAS
FIREBALLS DO MORE DAMAGE THAN THE BASIC ATTACK:
DULARN 2
OH GOD:
ISTERSIVA
BROKEN AI:
CHESTER 1
GEM OFF THE BEATEN PATH/YOU MIGHT REBIND YOUR CONTROLS HERE:
ELLEFALE
THE LAST HITS OF YOUR BASIC COMBO DO MORE DAMAGE:
DULARN 1
BASIC DIVISION:
LIGATY
RUN IN CIRCLES SPAMMING THE TERRA BRACELET:
HARDT
PIKKARD
ZIRDUROS
Z.Z.SCHULTIGER
HE KIND OF JUST DIED:
GARLAND
MORE ANNOYING THAN HARD:
GUILEN
GOOD HEAVENS JUST LOOK AT THE TIME/TIME TO ABUSE BOOST IFRAMES:
GYALVA
>>320589563
Dont reply seriously to copypasted bait
Oath, followed by Ys II and Dawn of Ys.
Dogi best husabando
>>320591172
Well it was a bad joke and you should feel bad for making it.
>>320584440
autism
>>320587238
So Chester isn't an obnoxious faggot in Wanderers from Ys?
i need to fill up my folder, post pls
>>320592425
Dark Fact is hard, but at least it's not as bullshit as the randomness of bat hell when fighting Vagullion on nightmare.
How the fuck do I teleport in VI?
>>320583790
Very fun ans great boss fights.
>>320593552
Is it ever explained why Dogi decided to travel with Adol?
>miss the first armor in Ys VI so I don't get the achievement for having all equipment
>do some time attack boss and I get the achievement anyway
Okay, I guess
>>320592782
I mostly agree with this list, except I'd place Chester 2 on a tier above Death Faleon, but below Galbalan, Ellefale just above Gyalva, and Garland and Guilen above Dularn 1.
Origin.
I understand why people regard Oath as the best, but I enjoyed Origin far more.
>>320581474
Flight
>>320590202
>news has happened for Ys 8 since it was first announced.
Fuck me, when was this announced?
>>320602256
Like a day or two ago
>>320602256
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/12/16/ys-viii-lacrimosa-of-dana-confirmed-release-summer-2016/
Two days ago
>>320602334
Damn, if Xseed doesn't drag their heels on getting this out, 2016 is gonna be the best year for Japanese series in years.
>>320581474
I love all 3 of the PS2 engine Ys games, and I contemplate suicide knowing Falcom with never make anything with this engine, and no other games I know of feel anything like them.
How hard are these games? I'm going to play Oath first, what difficulty should I choose?
Is Nayuta no Kiseki any good?
>>320602752
Congratulations you chose the hardest game. Now pick Nightmare. They are hard, if you get all the equipment up to a boss and leveled to the point where it starts to become a grind (or when enemies deal single digit damage to you) then you are good to go for a fight with something that feels "almost impossible". If you don't then it's just "impossible".
>>320602498
Ys game don't have much text to translate so I'd say by the end of 2016 at the latest.
>>320603182
Do you really need to fight mooks to level up? That's lame. But it looks like boss attack patterns are simplified on lower difficulties so I guess nightmare it is.
>>320603910
Yeah but the system used in these games is pretty good, it works in some sort of exponential fashion where for each level it takes about twice as much time to reach the next one (when grinding the same enemy). If you are undereleveled you will quickly gain experience to catch up and reach some sort of equilibrium point where you receive next to no experience until you get to the next dungeon with higher leveled enemies.
>>320581474
They're all shit games senpai.
I hope you know that.
>>320584440
I would give Oath a 10/10 and Origin a 9/10 for the same reasons you did the opposite.
While Origin's story is good, the game suffered from dialogue breaking the flow of gameplay way too much, especially since the player characters have speaking roles. Yunica's dialogue specifically creates a huge disconnect between gameplay and story, since she'll plow through hordes of enemies and defeat giant monsters without breaking a sweat, then afterwards act like she barely survived these encounters through sheer luck.
The biggest problem is that 90% of the dialogue is mandatory, and you have to sit through it every time you play through the game. My favorite thing about the story in Oath is that half of it is optional; you only see it if you go out of your way to talk to NPCs to get a better grasp on what's going on. This was handled especially well in Ark, where nearly every time you beat a boss, every NPC in the game would get new dialogue. This brought life to the game's world and made NPCs not seem entirely mindless like in many other RPGs, but most importantly, it served as a way to give players a break between segments of the game while not impeding those who just want to rush to the next area.
In Origin, what with the dialogue being sprinkled throughout the game (at the midpoint of each area, before picking up artifacts, before boss fights, etc.), it feels less like a break and more like a series of speedbumps you have to trudge through to continue playing.
>>320604776
Would you rate it differently if Origin had an option to skip all dialogue?
>>320604776
Yeah, I can see what you mean. I mean it's not like you're not forced to read at least some of Oath's story too but yeah people have brought up the village multiple times now. I just think the story is bland as fuck, while Origin has Hugo, Toal, Epona etc. Yunica is definitely the weakest of the playable characters.
>>320584440
You're a huge faggot for posting that multiple times on 4cheng and reddit
>>320594679
It's not my fault you can't sense irony, Tim.
>>320605140
Yeah, absolutely, considering it's my only real problem with the game. I wouldn't even mind it so much if the game didn't offer so much replayability, what with three characters plus their EX versions to play as.
I've done four full playthroughs and a few half-playthroughs of Oath, and waiting through dialogue was a chore sometimes even in that game, but Origin takes it to a whole new level.
>>320581474
Oath, but not by much. If Origin had as much effort put into its world as Oath did it would be the better game by virtue of having Khonsclard as the only annoying boss compared to Oath having six that I could not fucking stand fighting.
>>320585654
Dawn of Ys is actually one of the best games in the series.
>>320603910
You have to kill regular enemies to level but you never have to grind unless you skipped literally everything since the last boss.
>>320608905
What if you do skip literally everything since the last boss, how much harder would it be? I figure you can still dodge everything and win, but would I be doing 1 damage per hit or something?
>>320609125
Pretty much, I don't know exactly how it works but Ys does damage calculations on a "attack - defence" basis. There is a threshold you need to get over or else you do 1 damage.
